Brexit

Boris is a Mop headed racist Eton Furby with the heart of a Borg, who will stab anybody in his way (in the back) to achieve power, and  America, he owns duel citizenship being born in New York, he may want to combine Prime-minister with POTUS.

He sounds like an icky poo dummy head.

Your politicians are weird.

Your politicians turned your country into a Kmart.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7383903/How-cannibalism-taboo-sets-humans-apart-rest-animal-kingdom.html

Is it time to drop the cannibalism taboo? Psychologists say eating members of the same species is natural and we could 'adapt to human flesh if need be'

Are the food shortages going to be that bad?

It's not as if cannibalism Great Britain is a new idea.

A Modest Proposal
 
For Preventing The Children of Poor People in Ireland
From Being Aburden to Their Parents or Country, and
For Making Them Beneficial to The Public
 
By Jonathan Swift (1729)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7383903/How-cannibalism-taboo-sets-humans-apart-rest-animal-kingdom.html

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Is it time to drop the cannibalism taboo? Psychologists say eating members of the same species is natural and we could 'adapt to human flesh if need be'

Are the food shortages going to be that bad?

I'm trying to imagine how it must have felt writing that article.

The UK used to be looked upon with some semblance of class and intelligence.

Now you have Boris Johnson as your Prime Minister. How embarrassing for you guys.

Some people just like to sit back and watch the world burn. Boris is among those. He's probably rich enough and has enough perks as a politician to not give 2 shits how far England plunges into a recession or the economic pain that will impact millions. All because of some baseless xenophobia. Well done 'Vote Leavers' 

The UK used to be looked upon with some semblance of class and intelligence.

Now you have Boris Johnson as your Prime Minister. How embarrassing for you guys.

Some people just like to sit back and watch the world burn. Boris is among those. He's probably rich enough and has enough perks as a politician to not give 2 shits how far England plunges into a recession or the economic pain that will impact millions. All because of some baseless xenophobia. Well done 'Vote Leavers' 

Do you understand 'you' were less than enough to win the last election, right?

Quote from: Shifter on August 25, 2019, 02:53:29 PM

The UK used to be looked upon with some semblance of class and intelligence.

Now you have Boris Johnson as your Prime Minister. How embarrassing for you guys.

Some people just like to sit back and watch the world burn. Boris is among those. He's probably rich enough and has enough perks as a politician to not give 2 shits how far England plunges into a recession or the economic pain that will impact millions. All because of some baseless xenophobia. Well done 'Vote Leavers' 

Do you understand 'you' were less than enough to win the last election, right?

That would depend on whether you're talking about the singular 'you' or the collective 'you'.

Quote from: Shifter on August 25, 2019, 02:53:29 PM

The UK used to be looked upon with some semblance of class and intelligence.

Now you have Boris Johnson as your Prime Minister. How embarrassing for you guys.

Some people just like to sit back and watch the world burn. Boris is among those. He's probably rich enough and has enough perks as a politician to not give 2 shits how far England plunges into a recession or the economic pain that will impact millions. All because of some baseless xenophobia. Well done 'Vote Leavers' 

Do you understand 'you' were less than enough to win the last election, right?

Boris Johnson has never won an election.

Quote from: Bullwinkle on August 26, 2019, 05:08:44 AM

Quote from: Shifter on August 25, 2019, 02:53:29 PM

The UK used to be looked upon with some semblance of class and intelligence.

Now you have Boris Johnson as your Prime Minister. How embarrassing for you guys.

Some people just like to sit back and watch the world burn. Boris is among those. He's probably rich enough and has enough perks as a politician to not give 2 shits how far England plunges into a recession or the economic pain that will impact millions. All because of some baseless xenophobia. Well done 'Vote Leavers' 

Do you understand 'you' were less than enough to win the last election, right?

Boris Johnson has never won an election.

Not a public one. You voted for for the mob who thought him a top bloke to be England's PM though

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on August 26, 2019, 08:32:29 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on August 26, 2019, 05:08:44 AM

Quote from: Shifter on August 25, 2019, 02:53:29 PM

The UK used to be looked upon with some semblance of class and intelligence.

Now you have Boris Johnson as your Prime Minister. How embarrassing for you guys.

Some people just like to sit back and watch the world burn. Boris is among those. He's probably rich enough and has enough perks as a politician to not give 2 shits how far England plunges into a recession or the economic pain that will impact millions. All because of some baseless xenophobia. Well done 'Vote Leavers' 

Do you understand 'you' were less than enough to win the last election, right?

Boris Johnson has never won an election.

Not a public one. You voted for for the mob who thought him a top bloke to be England's PM though

Well, I didn't.  Anyway, this is what shameless Johnson had to say when Gordon Brown became Prime Minister under the same circumstances:

“It’s the arrogance. It’s the contempt. That’s what gets me. It’s Gordon Brown’s apparent belief that he can just trample on the democratic will of the British people. It’s at moments like this that I think the political world has gone mad, and I am alone in detecting the gigantic fraud.”

...

“They voted for Anthony Charles Lynton Blair to serve as their leader. They were at no stage invited to vote on whether Gordon Brown should be PM… They voted for Tony, and yet they now get Gordon, and a transition about as democratically proper as the transition from Claudius to Nero. It is a scandal. Why are we all conniving in this stitch-up? This is nothing less than a palace coup… with North Korean servility, the Labour Party has handed power over to the brooding Scottish power-maniac.”

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“The extraordinary thing is that it looks as though he will now be in 10 Downing Street for three years, and without a mandate from the British people. No one elected Gordon Brown as Prime Minister…

....

“Gordon Brown could appease public indignation over that, and secure the democratic mandate he needs, by asking the public to vote at once on him, on the new EU treaty, and on the implications of the devolutionary settlement. Let’s have an election without delay

Apparently, it's all fine now though.   

Quote from: Shifter on August 26, 2019, 11:52:15 PM

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on August 26, 2019, 08:32:29 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on August 26, 2019, 05:08:44 AM

Quote from: Shifter on August 25, 2019, 02:53:29 PM

The UK used to be looked upon with some semblance of class and intelligence.

Now you have Boris Johnson as your Prime Minister. How embarrassing for you guys.

Some people just like to sit back and watch the world burn. Boris is among those. He's probably rich enough and has enough perks as a politician to not give 2 shits how far England plunges into a recession or the economic pain that will impact millions. All because of some baseless xenophobia. Well done 'Vote Leavers' 

Do you understand 'you' were less than enough to win the last election, right?

Boris Johnson has never won an election.

Not a public one. You voted for for the mob who thought him a top bloke to be England's PM though

Well, I didn't.  Anyway, this is what shameless Johnson had to say when Gordon Brown became Prime Minister under the same circumstances:

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“It’s the arrogance. It’s the contempt. That’s what gets me. It’s Gordon Brown’s apparent belief that he can just trample on the democratic will of the British people. It’s at moments like this that I think the political world has gone mad, and I am alone in detecting the gigantic fraud.”

...

“They voted for Anthony Charles Lynton Blair to serve as their leader. They were at no stage invited to vote on whether Gordon Brown should be PM… They voted for Tony, and yet they now get Gordon, and a transition about as democratically proper as the transition from Claudius to Nero. It is a scandal. Why are we all conniving in this stitch-up? This is nothing less than a palace coup… with North Korean servility, the Labour Party has handed power over to the brooding Scottish power-maniac.”

...

“The extraordinary thing is that it looks as though he will now be in 10 Downing Street for three years, and without a mandate from the British people. No one elected Gordon Brown as Prime Minister…

....

“Gordon Brown could appease public indignation over that, and secure the democratic mandate he needs, by asking the public to vote at once on him, on the new EU treaty, and on the implications of the devolutionary settlement. Let’s have an election without delay

Apparently, it's all fine now though.   

Hahaha yeah, our PM's have said the same things before they took advantage of the system themselves.

It would have been cool to have that sound byte all over the mainstream. That's hilarious

NPR: Queen Will Suspend U.K. Parliament At Boris Johnson's Request.
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/28/754990771/britains-prime-minister-asks-queen-to-suspend-parliament-ahead-of-brexit-deadlin?ft=nprml&f=1001

I admit that I don't know the intricacies of UK politics but what the hell?  This looks very sleazy.

Long story short:
This is basically a "Waste time so when you come back, I can get my No Deal Brexit and you won't have the time to stop me."

Meh.  If they haven't come up with a deal by now, what makes anyone think that they'd be able to come up with one in the next 2 months?

NPR: Queen Will Suspend U.K. Parliament At Boris Johnson's Request.
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/28/754990771/britains-prime-minister-asks-queen-to-suspend-parliament-ahead-of-brexit-deadlin?ft=nprml&f=1001

I admit that I don't know the intricacies of UK politics but what the hell?  This looks very sleazy.

It's not thaaaat uncommon in a lot of countries to suspend parliament, but it is kinda sleazy.

He's suspended parliament because he knows there is a big risk of a no confidence motion going against him which could see him unable to command a majority and forced to resign. This suspension is purely for selfish power play and it should have no place in a democracy. But then, I guess democracy has been relegated to an illusion. A simple word to appease the masses

Meh.  If they haven't come up with a deal by now, what makes anyone think that they'd be able to come up with one in the next 2 months?

Absolute desparation.

Quote from: markjo on August 28, 2019, 09:56:14 AM

Meh.  If they haven't come up with a deal by now, what makes anyone think that they'd be able to come up with one in the next 2 months?

Absolute desparation.

What is the point of 'debate' anyway.... Is any one actually going to listen and change their mind? Most of the time they are directed to vote a certain way anyway

There's work to be done.  They have to decide what a brexit would actually look like.  I assume they'd prefer the version that doesn't plunge them into a depression which a no deal brexit is almost certain to do.

Quote from: Lorddave on August 29, 2019, 09:49:55 AM

Quote from: markjo on August 28, 2019, 09:56:14 AM

Meh.  If they haven't come up with a deal by now, what makes anyone think that they'd be able to come up with one in the next 2 months?

Absolute desparation.

What is the point of 'debate' anyway.... Is any one actually going to listen and change their mind? Most of the time they are directed to vote a certain way anyway

Yes and once that deadline hits, they will accept anything that isn't 'no deal'.

Also, this means its harder to have a vote of no confidence in Boris.

There's work to be done.  They have to decide what a brexit would actually look like.

Isn't that something that they should have figured out before having the people to vote on it?

Quote from: Crouton on August 29, 2019, 11:13:48 AM

There's work to be done.  They have to decide what a brexit would actually look like.

Isn't that something that they should have figured out before having the people to vote on it?

One would think.

America, it seems, does not have a monopoly on brain dead leadership.

Quote from: markjo on August 29, 2019, 01:10:23 PM

Quote from: Crouton on August 29, 2019, 11:13:48 AM

There's work to be done.  They have to decide what a brexit would actually look like.

Isn't that something that they should have figured out before having the people to vote on it?

One would think.

America, it seems, does not have a monopoly on brain dead leadership.

Don't forget Australia, we have a few pretty good candidates for that category.   Admittedly we are lagging behind Boris and Donald but we are trying.

Quote from: Crouton on August 29, 2019, 01:18:25 PM

Quote from: markjo on August 29, 2019, 01:10:23 PM

Quote from: Crouton on August 29, 2019, 11:13:48 AM

There's work to be done.  They have to decide what a brexit would actually look like.

Isn't that something that they should have figured out before having the people to vote on it?

One would think.

America, it seems, does not have a monopoly on brain dead leadership.

Don't forget Australia, we have a few pretty good candidates for that category.   Admittedly we are lagging behind Boris and Donald but we are trying.

It's not a contest.  Or is it?

Quote from: JerkFace on August 29, 2019, 06:26:11 PM

Quote from: Crouton on August 29, 2019, 01:18:25 PM

Quote from: markjo on August 29, 2019, 01:10:23 PM

Quote from: Crouton on August 29, 2019, 11:13:48 AM

There's work to be done.  They have to decide what a brexit would actually look like.

Isn't that something that they should have figured out before having the people to vote on it?

One would think.

America, it seems, does not have a monopoly on brain dead leadership.

Don't forget Australia, we have a few pretty good candidates for that category.   Admittedly we are lagging behind Boris and Donald but we are trying.

It's not a contest.  Or is it?

I think Jair Bolsonaro is winning so far,  although Trump is not far behind.   Being brain dead seems to be a prime qualification for politicians.

Bolsonaro is a legit fascist, the sole reason he hasn't done a junta yet is because he doesn't have a sufficient part of the army on his side. No kidding, Bolsonaro is not a fascist in the same sense people call, say, Trump a fascist. The guy has openly praised the military junta of Brazil, and his VP was a general under that junta. He also said the bad thing about the junta is that they tortured instead of killing and that the only way to go forward as a country is to kill thousands of leftists. Like, these are things he's said publicly in the past.

Bolsonaro is a legit fascist, the sole reason he hasn't done a junta yet is because he doesn't have a sufficient part of the army on his side. No kidding, Bolsonaro is not a fascist in the same sense people call, say, Trump a fascist. The guy has openly praised the military junta of Brazil, and his VP was a general under that junta. He also said the bad thing about the junta is that they tortured instead of killing and that the only way to go forward as a country is to kill thousands of leftists. Like, these are things he's said publicly in the past.

They are all disgusting people. It's like a race to the bottom of the barrel is a good thing. And then a contest as to who can break it and sink even lower.

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/03/757084924/boris-johnsons-brexit-plans-hit-turbulence-after-conservative-defection

So if the PM doesn't like the way the government is voting he can just force another election?  This seems like a very weird system of government.

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/03/757084924/boris-johnsons-brexit-plans-hit-turbulence-after-conservative-defection

So if the PM doesn't like the way the government is voting he can just force another election?  This seems like a very weird system of government.

It's actually surprising to think that people would vote for this goon

It's more surprising that the people who voted for Brexit aren't pissed off that they were manipulated with lies about it (now that the whole Facebook misusing data and Cambridge Analytica scandal has been mainstream news) are actually in full support of it still even to the point of this 'hard brexit' which will do nothing but put shit loads of people out of work, worse off economically and the country plunge into a recession. There is not a single positive attribute to 'brexit'. It's odd that the politicians simply don't scrap it. The referendum should be declared null and void given that people were lied to and manipulated. I get that happens with every election to a certain extent but this is far bigger and the politicians have a choice. It's a slow motion train wreck in the making and no one wants to stop it.