Your thoughts on Elon musk?

I will go even further and insist that this Hunter Biden be subject to impeachment!

I don't care that he's not a government official.  He should be preemptively impeached!

Quote from: boydster on December 03, 2022, 06:25:13 PM

I mean, I don't coordinate with people that report a post when deciding whether a post needs moderation, but that doesn't mean I don't moderate any reported posts here. It's certainly possible, and even reasonable, that someone on the content moderation team would see things the same way as a political figure asking them to make a moderation decision in their favor regardless of ideological alignment and without collusion. It's not hard to see the plausible deniability built into that very PR-friendly statement, and it isn't even an unreasonable thing to say from the company perspective, no matter which side is criticizing them in any given moment.

Fuck Twitter, and all that, but I kind of get the "We don't coordinate" statement and don't take too much issue with it.


Edit to add: I have made the difficult decision to not vote for Hunter Biden in any upcoming election cycles for public office, though, for the record.

Of course you don't coordinate with anyone, but you aren't lying about not coordinating either. The article is about the DHS getting involved in content moderation on social media. People on the left used to be against the Patriot Act, and what it has morphed into!

Also, I would really love to know how anyone can say Twitter was only removing pics of Hunter Biden's dick. I saw that become a talking point amongst the "liberal" journalists on Twitter, and then being picked up by their supporters. I also watched as they all lined up to post the exact same things about Matt Taibbi, that he's a grifter, and a substack man, etc. I think their brains were fried by Trump and the coronavirus, now they just need someone to direct their mental illness at. Plus they are jealous that Taibbi isn't constrained by corporate media interests.

Quote from: Crouton on December 03, 2022, 09:44:43 PM

I will go even further and insist that this Hunter Biden be subject to impeachment!

I don't care that he's not a government official.  He should be preemptively impeached!

You're deliberately missing the issue here.

Quote from: Crouton on December 02, 2022, 05:30:56 PM

There is an argument to be made that the government even suggesting to a private entity that they censor themselves could cross the line.  It'll be interesting to see.

I really wish they didn't threaten to investigate Twitter for no reason.  It's not a good look.

I think that's the case.
Otherwise they could justify direct first amendment violations on account of the fact most people with power are friends.

Quote from: disputeone on December 02, 2022, 05:38:04 PM

Quote from: Crouton on December 02, 2022, 05:30:56 PM

There is an argument to be made that the government even suggesting to a private entity that they censor themselves could cross the line.  It'll be interesting to see.

I really wish they didn't threaten to investigate Twitter for no reason.  It's not a good look.

I think that's the case.
Otherwise they could justify direct first amendment violations on account of the fact most people with power are friends.

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said Elon Musk’s purchase of Twitter Inc. would warrant a government review if deemed to raise national security concerns, walking back her previous comments that played down the need for scrutiny. 

If there are risks in general, “it would be appropriate for Cfius to take a look,” she said Wednesday at a New York Times event in New York, referring to the Committee on Foreign Investment in the US, which she leads. 

She added she previously “misspoke” on the matter, referring to an interview with CBS News earlier this month, when she said she saw “no basis” for a review. 

“I’m not going to say specifically what we are looking at,” Yellen said Wednesday. “We don’t comment on what’s in progress.”

Her earlier comments raised eyebrows as they closely followed comments from President Joe Biden that Musk’s connections to foreign governments, particularly China and Saudi Arabia, warranted closer looks.

Quote from: disputeone on December 04, 2022, 04:38:49 PM

Quote from: disputeone on December 02, 2022, 05:38:04 PM

Quote from: Crouton on December 02, 2022, 05:30:56 PM

There is an argument to be made that the government even suggesting to a private entity that they censor themselves could cross the line.  It'll be interesting to see.

I really wish they didn't threaten to investigate Twitter for no reason.  It's not a good look.

I think that's the case.
Otherwise they could justify direct first amendment violations on account of the fact most people with power are friends.

Did this happen in 2020?  Just to remind you, Republicans controlled the government at that time.  Did Republicans lean on Twitter to block the Hunter Biden story?

Like I said I haven't read the entire twitter thread.  I'm assuming you have.  Can you point out what sort of overreach the government is guilty of in this story?  It's not a trick question.

This looks like they're threatening Elon Musk. I'm not sure what they want from him, though. Don't all the wealthy have ties to China and Saudi Arabia?

Only if the US government was restricting speech on the flat earth society.

"restricting" is the operative word.

Quote from: Stash on December 04, 2022, 05:59:53 PM

"restricting" is the operative word.

Yes.

The US government restricted speech on Twitter.

By asking them to restrict speech.

They didn't force them, so it's ok, That's your argument, must I make it for you?

By asking them to restrict speech.

They didn't force them, so it's ok, That's your argument, must I make it for you?

asking is not restricting.

Another missed opportunity.

When will I learn.

I should have posted again,

"Now comes the part where you talk about Trump."

Alas. I was too reliant on my eyes.

That's your argument, not mine. It's fine when it's your team.

Do I give a free pass to corruption?
Is that what I do?

Does that really happen in reality?

I don't think it does.

This level of projection shouldn't be possible.

Is it my hypocrisy currently on display?

You should listen more than you speak.

Do you just take what I say and invert it? Nevermind, silly question.

You prioritise a material over a positional advantage often to your detriment. It's only because you can't fully understand the position, as this is infinitly more complex than chess.