Your thoughts on Elon musk?

Quote from: Heiwa on August 05, 2022, 03:17:38 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on August 05, 2022, 01:38:49 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 05, 2022, 01:17:40 AM

On 16 June 1963, Soviet cosmonaut Valentina Tereshkova became the first woman to travel into space. We all loved her. She was young and beautiful then and still alive today. But she never traveled in space. It was fake news!

I was 2 in 1963.  I didn't love her.  She was not young and beautiful to me.
I understand, life through your lens is distorted by dementia, general malaise
and lack of basic cognitive skills. 

I would still enjoy spending a day with you.  I feel it would be fascinating. 
I would even be willing to sign a NDA and NSA.

Thanks, but I prefer a date with Valentina Tereshkova.

What happened to your offer for anyone to come over to your office for a chat?

It still stands. My full style is at my website. No mask or vaxx pass is required.

On 16 June 1963, Soviet cosmonaut Valentina Tereshkova became the first woman to travel into space. We all loved her. She was young and beautiful then and still alive today. But she never traveled in space. It was fake news!

His source . . . none.

Quote from: Heiwa on August 05, 2022, 01:17:40 AM

On 16 June 1963, Soviet cosmonaut Valentina Tereshkova became the first woman to travel into space. We all loved her. She was young and beautiful then and still alive today. But she never traveled in space. It was fake news!

His source . . . none.

Just google ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentina_Tereshkova . There is no evidence that Valentina was in space 16 June 1963 except some info from Tass and Pravda known for being truthful.

Quote from: MaNaeSWolf on August 07, 2022, 11:35:53 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 05, 2022, 01:17:40 AM

On 16 June 1963, Soviet cosmonaut Valentina Tereshkova became the first woman to travel into space. We all loved her. She was young and beautiful then and still alive today. But she never traveled in space. It was fake news!

His source . . . none.

Just google ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentina_Tereshkova . There is no evidence that Valentina was in space 16 June 1963 except some info from Tass and Pravda known for being truthful.

Just google ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulombi_Egg_Tanker . There is no evidence that a Coulombi Egg Tanker was ever built except for some info from a lone conspiracy theorist.

The United States Coast Guard does not allow this design to enter US waters, effectively preventing it from being built.[1]

Quote from: Heiwa on August 08, 2022, 10:18:02 PM

Quote from: MaNaeSWolf on August 07, 2022, 11:35:53 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 05, 2022, 01:17:40 AM

On 16 June 1963, Soviet cosmonaut Valentina Tereshkova became the first woman to travel into space. We all loved her. She was young and beautiful then and still alive today. But she never traveled in space. It was fake news!

His source . . . none.

Just google ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentina_Tereshkova . There is no evidence that Valentina was in space 16 June 1963 except some info from Tass and Pravda known for being truthful.

Just google ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulombi_Egg_Tanker . There is no evidence that a Coulombi Egg Tanker was ever built except for some info from a lone conspiracy theorist.

The United States Coast Guard does not allow this design to enter US waters, effectively preventing it from being built.[1]

Thanks for the link. Yes, the Coulombi Egg tanker design was approved by the United Nation's  IMO September 1997 and anyone could build it by paying a fee to me holding the patents. The patents are now expired and anyone can use the concept. I explain the full story at my website.

Quote from: Stash on August 08, 2022, 11:47:57 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 08, 2022, 10:18:02 PM

Quote from: MaNaeSWolf on August 07, 2022, 11:35:53 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 05, 2022, 01:17:40 AM

On 16 June 1963, Soviet cosmonaut Valentina Tereshkova became the first woman to travel into space. We all loved her. She was young and beautiful then and still alive today. But she never traveled in space. It was fake news!

His source . . . none.

Just google ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentina_Tereshkova . There is no evidence that Valentina was in space 16 June 1963 except some info from Tass and Pravda known for being truthful.

Just google ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulombi_Egg_Tanker . There is no evidence that a Coulombi Egg Tanker was ever built except for some info from a lone conspiracy theorist.

The United States Coast Guard does not allow this design to enter US waters, effectively preventing it from being built.[1]

Thanks for the link. Yes, the Coulombi Egg tanker design was approved by the United Nation's  IMO September 1997 and anyone could build it by paying a fee to me holding the patents. The patents are now expired and anyone can use the concept. I explain the full story at my website.

Am I missing something? We have a thread exactly about the shitty and failed and never built Coulombi Egg tanker. This thread is about how much of a dickhead Elon Musk is. So how about we talk shitty Coulombi Egg tankers in its dedicated thread, and talk about what a dick Elon is, in this thread

Does that seem fair? YOU Heiwa, can spam your shitty tanker design all you want in that thread. Leave this thread for people to spam how shitty Elon is

Quote from: Heiwa on August 09, 2022, 10:36:07 AM

Quote from: Stash on August 08, 2022, 11:47:57 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 08, 2022, 10:18:02 PM

Quote from: MaNaeSWolf on August 07, 2022, 11:35:53 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on August 05, 2022, 01:17:40 AM

On 16 June 1963, Soviet cosmonaut Valentina Tereshkova became the first woman to travel into space. We all loved her. She was young and beautiful then and still alive today. But she never traveled in space. It was fake news!

His source . . . none.

Just google ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentina_Tereshkova . There is no evidence that Valentina was in space 16 June 1963 except some info from Tass and Pravda known for being truthful.

Just google ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulombi_Egg_Tanker . There is no evidence that a Coulombi Egg Tanker was ever built except for some info from a lone conspiracy theorist.

The United States Coast Guard does not allow this design to enter US waters, effectively preventing it from being built.[1]

Thanks for the link. Yes, the Coulombi Egg tanker design was approved by the United Nation's  IMO September 1997 and anyone could build it by paying a fee to me holding the patents. The patents are now expired and anyone can use the concept. I explain the full story at my website.

Am I missing something? We have a thread exactly about the shitty and failed and never built Coulombi Egg tanker. This thread is about how much of a dickhead Elon Musk is. So how about we talk shitty Coulombi Egg tankers in its dedicated thread, and talk about what a dick Elon is, in this thread

Does that seem fair? YOU Heiwa, can spam your shitty tanker design all you want in that thread. Leave this thread for people to spam how shitty Elon is

I agree that Elon Musk is an American fraud kept alive by US MSM. It has some similarities with the US treatment of the CE tanker.

I agree that Elon Musk is an American fraud kept alive by US MSM. It has some similarities with the US treatment of the CE tanker.

Zero similarities.

Quote from: Heiwa on August 09, 2022, 10:16:21 PM

I agree that Elon Musk is an American fraud kept alive by US MSM. It has some similarities with the US treatment of the CE tanker.

Zero similarities.

No, Musk is a fraud today like the USCG admiral that suddenly outlawed the CE tanker . I am happy not to live in USA

Just google ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentina_Tereshkova . There is no evidence that Valentina was in space 16 June 1963 except some info from Tass and Pravda known for being truthful.

I See over 100 sources there. I see nothing from you.

but here https://zoharesque.blogspot.com/2022/06/valentina-tereshkova-and-double.html this is a surprisingly fitting source for you

I am happy not to live in USA

You and me both!

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1576969255031296000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1576969255031296000%7Ctwgr%5E1322c604edb8243e4a60e09472a95ef911731849%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thedailybeast.com%2Felon-musk-told-to-fuck-off-by-ukrainian-diplomat-andrij-melnyk-after-russia-war-tweet

Is Elon Musk trying to become the most hated man on the internet?

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1576969255031296000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1576969255031296000%7Ctwgr%5E1322c604edb8243e4a60e09472a95ef911731849%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thedailybeast.com%2Felon-musk-told-to-fuck-off-by-ukrainian-diplomat-andrij-melnyk-after-russia-war-tweet

Is Elon Musk trying to become the most hated man on the internet?

Sounds like he's Pootins crony. Trying to soften up the west and legitimise Russians invasion.

What a cock knuckled dickwad

He sounds like someone that had no idea the war was happening until now, and just gave his quick "solution".
I recognise his opinions from my Father though.

Its war = bad
How do you solve this without the war.

Problem is, the cats already out of the bag, its too late to talk about the non-war solutions.

He sounds like someone that had no idea the war was happening until now, and just gave his quick "solution".

After a bottle of wine while sat on the shitter.

He can fuck right off.

The lefty too online journalists are melting down about Elon buying Twitter again.

Aged like milk.



So instead of losing the court case and paying twitter compensation, he's gonna buy the company 

I've done some stupid things to avoid embarrassment, but they didn't cost $44B

Now he's free to champion freedum of speech, put the neo-nazis back on, watch the advertisers walk away and see the value of his investment crater.

Good luck with that Mr Musk.

The interesting thing is there's this trial scheduled for this month to force Elon to pay up.  Elon agreeing to go ahead and buy it should make the trial unnecessary.  But Twitter doesn't trust Elon, which is quite understandable.  So the trial is still set to go on.

Twitter barely makes any money, I don't think Elon is worried about advertisers walking away.

Twitter barely makes any money, I don't think Elon is worried about advertisers walking away.

You must be kidding?!?  He's buying it at head of a consortium on investors, who will very much be interested in making a profit.  It is also highly leveraged, stacking up loads of debt.  I'd love to hear the conversation with Morgan Stanley (who are putting billions in) where Musk explains "he's not worried about advertisers".   

Anyway, there is a world of difference from "hardly making any money" to "losing a fortune".  Not even St Elon can afford a $44B plaything which he can run into the ground, even when a significant proportion is other people's money.

It's simple.  He'll replace the entire staff of twitter with Teslabots.

You must be kidding?!?  He's buying it at head of a consortium on investors, who will very much be interested in making a profit.  It is also highly leveraged, stacking up loads of debt.  I'd love to hear the conversation with Morgan Stanley (who are putting billions in) where Musk explains "he's not worried about advertisers".   

Anyway, there is a world of difference from "hardly making any money" to "losing a fortune".  Not even St Elon can afford a $44B plaything which he can run into the ground, even when a significant proportion is other people's money.

Twitter will absolutely have to make money. Elon cant run a sinking ship for ever.

But I dont think advertisers will run away at all. Social media is made up of 1% very loud voices that complain about everything and 99% users that dont care. So for every 1 person complaining, you have 99 people who literally could not give a rats ass about what ever issue, and they are the target for advertisers.

And considering that the most innovating thing twitter has done over the last 5 years is think about adding an edit button, not actually do it yet. I dont think it will be too hard to improve the place. Its a hell hole as it is.

Regarding advertisers I would consider Youtube as a cautionary tale.  Content producers there have to go to obnoxious amounts of self censorship to avoid getting demonetized. 

I could definitely see advertisers pulling out if twitter becomes viewed as something like stormfront.

Advertisers are ruthless. Facebook is one of the most miserable companies on earth, but it wont stop advertisers. YouTube is not struggling to find advertisers https://www.businessofapps.com/data/youtube-statistics/
If there are people using the app, they will be there.

I hate youtube as it currently is BECAUSE of advertisers. I can only watch it through rhe firefox app on my phone to avoid 15 sec of advertising for every clip I want to watch. So If twitter eats some of YouTubes lunch, I will only be happy

But I dont think advertisers will run away at all. Social media is made up of 1% very loud voices that complain about everything and 99% users that dont care. So for every 1 person complaining, you have 99 people who literally could not give a rats ass about what ever issue, and they are the target for advertisers.

That's not the way it works.  The big corps do not want to be associated with toxic content.  Nike does not want their shoes appearing below a swastika or a video of a white power rally. 

I dont think it will be too hard to improve the place.

I'm not so sure, I think many problems are inherent in the platform.  Any kind of move towards more freedom of speech will probably make more of a toxic pit.

YouTube is not struggling to find advertisers

It reached a point where it was going to be - the big advertisers all threatened to pull their revenue if they didn't sort their content out.  Youtube reacted and banned or demonetarised tons of big channels.   Why do you think stuff like Infowars got chucked out?  Not to mention youtube is a far simpler platform to fit traditional advertising in that twitter is.

I've no idea how you could turn enough profit from twitter - certainly not to justify $44B.

That's not the way it works.  The big corps do not want to be associated with toxic content.  Nike does not want their shoes appearing below a swastika or a video of a white power rally. 

Im gonna be honest, I live my web experience layered with adblockers, I dont even know when last I have seen an ad online. But I dont see how this is terribly hard to innovate. I dont think Elon is so dumb than to just let it a free for all. But I can think of plenty of ways to improve twitter, both from an advertising perspective and from sorting content out.
You forget that Tesla is probably the biggest investor in AI tech on earth right now. Lots of clever software that can sort content by category.

I'm not so sure, I think many problems are inherent in the platform.  Any kind of move towards more freedom of speech will probably make more of a toxic pit.

I dont think the problem is freedom of speech. I think the problem is how we promote certain speech. The fact that there are mechanisms to elevate tweets, but not mechanisms to deflate them should show you that the Twitter gods really care for engagement over quality.

I have no idea if Musk will improve it, but I do think there is a lot you can do to improve it.

It reached a point where it was going to be - the big advertisers all threatened to pull their revenue if they didn't sort their content out.  Youtube reacted and banned or demonetarised tons of big channels.   Why do you think stuff like Infowars got chucked out?  Not to mention youtube is a far simpler platform to fit traditional advertising in that twitter is.

I've no idea how you could turn enough profit from twitter - certainly not to justify $44B.

Twitter already pulls a profit of about $3B a year. Not great, not terrible.
Just cutting the fat could get it into decent profit territory.

Again, no idea if he is capable of making any success out of it, but I dont think its as long stretch as many make it out to be

Regarding advertisers I would consider Youtube as a cautionary tale.  Content producers there have to go to obnoxious amounts of self censorship to avoid getting demonetized. 

I could definitely see advertisers pulling out if twitter becomes viewed as something like stormfront.

I don't know why everyone is worried that he will let the Nazis take over Twitter. It's what all the eternally online lefty journalists are hyperventilating about, but they also pretend to get the vapors if you misgender someone. It's all fake outrage meant to generate clicks. They'd all secretly love it if Trump was back on Twitter.

If you go to a youtube video that you know has been demonitized you still get served ads. So, is it the advertisers running away, or is it Youtube putting the blame on them? I honestly don't think advertisers really give a shit most of the time, especially if it's just some youtuber saying "fuck" too many times, or expressing conservative opinions, etc. This is what advertisers care about https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-brands-blast-twitter-ads-next-child-pornography-accounts-2022-09-28/  Twitter has issues already and it's got nothing to do with Elon Musk.

Twitter has issues already and it's got nothing to do with Elon Musk.

No, but it will do if he buys it.  He will be plunging straight into that cess pit and whatever he does will likely please nobody, or at least please a few and piss of the majority.

The whole thing could be very damaging to his brand, not to mention his wealth.

Anyway, he's super popular in Moscow right now, so he's got that I suppose.... 

What is wrong with the US definition of freedom of speech?
That you can say what you like as long as you aren't directly inciting violence?

I think it's funny, or terrifying that the people calling others fascists are the ones in favour of censorship and authoritarianism.

Freedom is the ability to say 2+2=4. All other freedoms come from this. If that isn't allowed then freedom is the ability to die hating them.
-Orwell.

That's not the way it works.  The big corps do not want to be associated with toxic content.

Jimmy, I.