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« Reply #60 on: January 15, 2007, 02:57:00 PM »
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TheEngineer's a dumbass who doesn't ever make any sense. no point even responding to anything he says

Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it is wrong.
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« Reply #61 on: January 15, 2007, 03:02:42 PM »
fuck off
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« Reply #62 on: January 15, 2007, 03:05:58 PM »
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You have no fraking idea what you are talking about. For an engineer, you have pathetic understanding of fraking freshman physics.

Acceleration, time, and velocity are all mathematically related and has nothing to do with relativity, at all. They can be done of any object with any change in distance.

If you are a real engineer, you would know about this thing called calculus that allows this even easier. If you aren't one, you are just another dirty fraking liar.

If you are talking about velocities getting closer to the speed of light, the graphs still fraking work. The laws of physics are the same for all observers, regardless of their own velocity (velocity relative to what I must ask)

As an example.
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« Reply #63 on: January 15, 2007, 03:11:44 PM »
relativity has to do with time.
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he kinds of equations that they have now are the kinds of equations you would get in an approximation scheme to some underlying theory, but nobody knows what the underlying theory is.

discover magazine
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« Reply #64 on: January 15, 2007, 03:15:19 PM »
Point out exactly what is wrong with that, motherfucker. Or do you not understand it well enough to do so?
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« Reply #65 on: January 15, 2007, 03:18:14 PM »
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If you are talking about velocities getting closer to the speed of light, the graphs still fraking work.

That part.  Specifically, when you said Newtonian mechanics would work.
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« Reply #66 on: January 15, 2007, 03:20:57 PM »
I said the graphs still work, you worthless piece of shit. The definition of acceleration does not change with relativity, nor does the graphs from an object moving with us. Realativistic effects are observed if and only if the difference in relative velocity is sufficiently close to the speed of light in a vacuum. If you were to define another observer, the graphs still work, but are different.

But your stupid FAQ says the whole universe accelerates with the Earth, so there exists no such observer in your brain-dead model.

I can't belive I have to explain this.
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« Reply #67 on: January 15, 2007, 03:25:54 PM »
Hey Scientist, what part of this did you not understand?

Scientist, you have obviously have an IQ below your reading age & you are obviously obsessed with cum so might I suggest you go to a website you'd feel more at home with. Just Google "felcher" and you'll be back with your kind again.

Oh hang on, silly me, you don't have to Google it, just hit your homepage button!
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« Reply #68 on: January 15, 2007, 03:25:56 PM »
im here for the thrill ride. make it exciting

anyways, i have a question. why do you FE's pick and choose what you think is real?
let me explain, scientists say that the sun is the center of the solar system and you say that it isn't. Then, when they say that there SEEMS to be something called dark matter, you readily accept that as the force that propells the earth upwards. so why do you pick and choose?
you are not scientists. what makes you right? who are you to say what is reality? did you see dark matter?
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s the earth really flat?
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, maybe go fcuk yourself.
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« Reply #69 on: January 15, 2007, 03:27:38 PM »
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im here for the thrill ride. make it exciting

anyways, i have a question. why do you FE's pick and choose what you think is real?
let me explain, scientists say that the sun is the center of the solar system and you say that it isn't. Then, when they say that there SEEMS to be something called dark matter, you readily accept that as the force that propells the earth upwards. so why do you pick and choose?
you are not scientists. what makes you right? who are you to say what is reality? did you see dark matter?


Who said there are not FE scientists? The modern Flat Earth Society has existed since the 1800's, and has had many intelligent and credentialed members.
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« Reply #70 on: January 15, 2007, 03:30:18 PM »
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Hey Scientist, what part of this did you not understand?

hey asslicker go back to fucking donkeys we know that is what you love
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Oh hang on, silly me, you don't have to Google it, just hit your homepage button!

lol
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« Reply #71 on: January 15, 2007, 03:30:33 PM »
hey tom bishop, if you were a scientist, you would have answered my question
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Re: im back bitches
« Reply #72 on: January 15, 2007, 03:31:07 PM »
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The modern Flat Earth Society has existed since the 1800's, and has had many intelligent and credentialed members.

an intelligent flat earther

rofl
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« Reply #73 on: January 15, 2007, 03:33:09 PM »
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hey tom bishop, if you were a scientist, you would have answered my question


Your questions are asked and answered here on a daily basis. Maybe you should do a search before bringing up topics.
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« Reply #74 on: January 15, 2007, 03:34:21 PM »
ummm you didnt answer my question, you "scientists" like to beat around the bush
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« Reply #75 on: January 15, 2007, 03:34:32 PM »
none of you answer anything

you pick and choose what you will ignore and lie about the rest

dickheads
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« Reply #76 on: January 15, 2007, 03:35:53 PM »
that means that you dont have an answer to my question. what is dark matter and why do you believe it? these findings are comming from scientists who believe the earth is round.  you cant obviusly believe them... can you?
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« Reply #77 on: January 15, 2007, 03:37:26 PM »
why are you using innapropiate language? is that how you talk to a 19 year old college student? and you call yourself credible.
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« Reply #78 on: January 15, 2007, 03:44:25 PM »
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The definition of acceleration does not change with relativity

The equations sure do.
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...object moving with us. Realativistic effects are observed if and only if the difference in relative velocity is sufficiently close to the speed of light in a vacuum.

If an object is moving with us, then its not a relativistic situation (However, the equations of relativity are still more accurate than Newton's).
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If you were to define another observer, the graphs still work, but are different.

So different, they are wrong.
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« Reply #79 on: January 15, 2007, 03:46:25 PM »
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why are you using innapropiate language? is that how you talk to a 19 year old college student? and you call yourself credible.

burn in hell
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« Reply #80 on: January 15, 2007, 03:49:13 PM »
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why are you using innapropiate language? is that how you talk to a 19 year old college student? and you call yourself credible.

burn in hell


Are you 12 years old? Stop derailsing the thread with your bad language and abuse. You aren't helping your case at all.
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« Reply #81 on: January 15, 2007, 03:51:35 PM »
why dont people just respond to the points instead of feeding the troll
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« Reply #82 on: January 15, 2007, 03:55:59 PM »
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why dont people just respond to the points instead of feeding the troll


What can I say? You looked hungry.
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« Reply #83 on: January 15, 2007, 04:03:07 PM »
so is anyone going to answer the points fully or is this just spam
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« Reply #84 on: January 15, 2007, 04:12:02 PM »
See the Engineer's reply above.
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« Reply #85 on: January 15, 2007, 04:16:56 PM »
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The equations sure do.


dv/dt doesn't and that is the definition

the actual result of the differentiation is dependent on the observer

so i ask you again what is the observer and why is this observer relevant to the universe

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If an object is moving with us, then its not a relativistic situation (However, the equations of relativity are still more accurate than Newton's).

they are the same for v << c
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So different, they are wrong.

define the observer and why it is relevant
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« Reply #86 on: January 15, 2007, 04:19:17 PM »
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. . . it might be beneficial to compile a sort of encyclopedia explaining various FE phenomena. Certainly the vast intelligence of this forum could produce a better, more comprehensive FAQ.


That is a great idea.  However, there is an unbelievable amount of junk to sift.  If I were getting paid to do it I would have much more motivation, but don't think my boss would very much appreciate that kind of thing.  

Gogetta, when a very good point is made with no logical flaws, no one will say anything because the only people posting replies are only here to practice debate.  

So when no one responds, give yourself one point.
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« Reply #87 on: January 15, 2007, 04:19:55 PM »
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that means that you dont have an answer to my question. what is dark matter and why do you believe it? these findings are comming from scientists who believe the earth is round.  you cant obviusly believe them... can you?


Welcome back, gogeta2478.

Oh yes, I remember you quite well.  Get my PM finally?
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« Reply #88 on: January 15, 2007, 06:38:53 PM »
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The equations sure do.


dv/dt doesn't and that is the definition


Yep.  But when you trasform the equations, they become quite different.
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« Reply #89 on: January 15, 2007, 06:40:06 PM »
again, it depends on the observer

if the whole universe is accelerating with us, then the equations would transform into nothing special relative to any relevant observer
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