How confident are you flat-earthers?

If we were to put a flat-earther in a rocket and send them up to space, would they still believe that the earth is flat? Or would they just say that the windows of the spacecraft have screens on them? If so, would they be brave enough to open one of the doors/windows of the spacecraft while it is in orbit to prove that it is a hoax devised of clever CGI and green screens? This question is asking whether or not a flat-earther truly believes what they claim.

Since you'll never be able to put one of us in a rocket and send us into space, what is the point? Is this supposed to be a debate?

If we were to put a flat-earther in a rocket and send them up to space, would they still believe that the earth is flat? Or would they just say that the windows of the spacecraft have screens on them? If so, would they be brave enough to open one of the doors/windows of the spacecraft while it is in orbit to prove that it is a hoax devised of clever CGI and green screens? This question is asking whether or not a flat-earther truly believes what they claim.

I don't think you would need to put a flat earther in a rocket to see if they would still believe  that the earth is flat ?

(1) You could take them out to the middle of the ocean on a ship and ask them if they could see an infinite distance in all directions  or if they could see just so far because of the thickness of the atmoplane and that would prove that  there was no curvature of the earth ,prove the earth was not a globe ,  and  that would prove the earth was flat ?
Or if they could always see land in the distance with a powerful enough telescope no matter how far at sea they were ?
And if they could see land, and especially  the ice wall.....If they were close enough that they  weren't  obscured by the atmoplane ?

(2) Or you could ask them if they could not see more than a few miles in all directions because they could only see to a point where the sky and the ocean appear to meet at the horizon and that would prove that that the earth was not flat and there was a curvature of the earth and that would prove the earth was round and the earth was a globe ?
Or if they could see farther to the horizon the higher they went on the ship - from water line to main deck , to bridge, to crow's nest ?
Or if they could no longer see land in the distance with a powerful enough telescope after they had gone very far from the nearest
 land ?

These tests are best perforned on clear, calm, sunny days at sea

(3) Or would they believe or admit what they saw ?
 
(4) Or they would say that they had been hypnotized or blinded to admit what they saw ?
 
(5) Or what they saw was just something that was projected there by NASA  ?

Since you'll never be able to put one of us in a rocket and send us into space, what is the point? Is this supposed to be a debate?

Why not ?
Because flat earth believes there is  no such thing as space ?

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on December 09, 2018, 05:33:29 PM

Since you'll never be able to put one of us in a rocket and send us into space, what is the point? Is this supposed to be a debate?

Why not ?
Because flat earth believes there is  no such thing as space ?

Because there is no crow's nest on a rocket.

Since you'll never be able to put one of us in a rocket and send us into space, what is the point? Is this supposed to be a debate?

That is not the point of this thread. The point is, if you were in a rocket in 'orbit' would you trust your theory enough to expose yourself to 'space', or would you just play it safe and trust your gut feeling that you are actually in space and that you would instantly die by exposing yourself to space. I would be very surprised if any flat-earther could honestly say that they would take the chance to 'expose themselves' to space.

Can a flat-earther ask a question similar to this? Can a flat-earther ask a round-earther to trust their belief with their life? I know I sure trust the globe earth with my life!

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on December 09, 2018, 05:33:29 PM

Since you'll never be able to put one of us in a rocket and send us into space, what is the point? Is this supposed to be a debate?

That is not the point of this thread. The point is, if you were in a rocket in 'orbit' would you trust your theory enough to expose yourself to 'space', or would you just play it safe and trust your gut feeling that you are actually in space and that you would instantly die by exposing yourself to space. I would be very surprised if any flat-earther could honestly say that they would take the chance to 'expose themselves' to space.

Can a flat-earther ask a question similar to this? Can a flat-earther ask a round-earther to trust their belief with their life? I know I sure trust the globe earth with my life!

I doubt any RE'er would voluntarily expose themself to 'space'.

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 09, 2018, 08:01:52 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on December 09, 2018, 05:33:29 PM

Since you'll never be able to put one of us in a rocket and send us into space, what is the point? Is this supposed to be a debate?

Why not ?
Because flat earth believes there is  no such thing as space ?

Because there is no crow's nest on a rocket.

Bullwinkle I meant going on a ship, which has a crow's nest....of  course there is no crow's on  a rocket.
Of course you're right.
Of course there is  no such thing as space on the flat earth.

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 09, 2018, 08:03:52 PM

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 09, 2018, 08:01:52 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on December 09, 2018, 05:33:29 PM

Since you'll never be able to put one of us in a rocket and send us into space, what is the point? Is this supposed to be a debate?

Why not ?
Because flat earth believes there is  no such thing as space ?

Because there is no crow's nest on a rocket.

Bullwinkle I meant going on a ship, which has a crow's nest....of  course there is no crow's on  a rocket.
Of course you're right.
Of course there is  no such thing as space on the flat earth.

I'm sure flat earthers acknowledge a lack of air and freezing temperatures at a high enough altitude. So why would they stick their head out?

Quote from: ignorant_globehead on December 09, 2018, 08:10:53 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on December 09, 2018, 05:33:29 PM

Since you'll never be able to put one of us in a rocket and send us into space, what is the point? Is this supposed to be a debate?

That is not the point of this thread. The point is, if you were in a rocket in 'orbit' would you trust your theory enough to expose yourself to 'space', or would you just play it safe and trust your gut feeling that you are actually in space and that you would instantly die by exposing yourself to space. I would be very surprised if any flat-earther could honestly say that they would take the chance to 'expose themselves' to space.

Can a flat-earther ask a question similar to this? Can a flat-earther ask a round-earther to trust their belief with their life? I know I sure trust the globe earth with my life!n nn

I doubt any RE'er would voluntarily expose themself to 'space'.

Lots of RE'ers have voluntarily (and un-voluntarily)  exposed themself to going to sea on a ship.....Why not FE'ers ?

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 09, 2018, 08:15:14 PM

Quote from: ignorant_globehead on December 09, 2018, 08:10:53 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on December 09, 2018, 05:33:29 PM

Since you'll never be able to put one of us in a rocket and send us into space, what is the point? Is this supposed to be a debate?

That is not the point of this thread. The point is, if you were in a rocket in 'orbit' would you trust your theory enough to expose yourself to 'space', or would you just play it safe and trust your gut feeling that you are actually in space and that you would instantly die by exposing yourself to space. I would be very surprised if any flat-earther could honestly say that they would take the chance to 'expose themselves' to space.

Can a flat-earther ask a question similar to this? Can a flat-earther ask a round-earther to trust their belief with their life? I know I sure trust the globe earth with my life!n nn

I doubt any RE'er would voluntarily expose themself to 'space'.

Lots of RE'ers have voluntarily (and un-voluntarily)  exposed themself to going to sea on a ship.....Why not FE'ers ?

Have you ever actually been to the horizon?

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 09, 2018, 08:19:33 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 09, 2018, 08:03:52 PM

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 09, 2018, 08:01:52 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on December 09, 2018, 05:33:29 PM

Since you'll never be able to put one of us in a rocket and send us into space, what is the point? Is this supposed to be a debate?

Why not ?
Because flat earth believes there is  no such thing as space ?

Because there is no crow's nest on a rocket.

Bullwinkle I meant going on a ship, which has a crow's nest....of  course there is no crow's on  a rocket.
Of course you're right.
Of course there is  no such thing as space on the flat earth.

I'm sure flat earthers acknowledge a lack of air and freezing temperatures at a high enough altitude. So why would they stick their head out?

I am also wondering where Rowbotham got all that information on the ice wall as he describes it in "Earth Not A Globe" ?
If no one has ever been there  or  if any one has been there has been shot and killed by a NASA guard or eaten by one of the
 penguins  ?

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 09, 2018, 08:25:27 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 09, 2018, 08:15:14 PM

Quote from: ignorant_globehead on December 09, 2018, 08:10:53 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on December 09, 2018, 05:33:29 PM

Since you'll never be able to put one of us in a rocket and send us into space, what is the point? Is this supposed to be a debate?

That is not the point of this thread. The point is, if you were in a rocket in 'orbit' would you trust your theory enough to expose yourself to 'space', or would you just play it safe and trust your gut feeling that you are actually in space and that you would instantly die by exposing yourself to space. I would be very surprised if any flat-earther could honestly say that they would take the chance to 'expose themselves' to space.

Can a flat-earther ask a question similar to this? Can a flat-earther ask a round-earther to trust their belief with their life? I know I sure trust the globe earth with my life!n nn

I doubt any RE'er would voluntarily expose themself to 'space'.

Lots of RE'ers have voluntarily (and un-voluntarily)  exposed themself to going to sea on a ship.....Why not FE'ers ?

Have you ever actually been to the horizon?

I hate to break it to you... no one has been to the horizon. Just like no one was ever caught there shadow....

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 09, 2018, 08:25:27 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 09, 2018, 08:15:14 PM

Quote from: ignorant_globehead on December 09, 2018, 08:10:53 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on December 09, 2018, 05:33:29 PM

Since you'll never be able to put one of us in a rocket and send us into space, what is the point? Is this supposed to be a debate?

That is not the point of this thread. The point is, if you were in a rocket in 'orbit' would you trust your theory enough to expose yourself to 'space', or would you just play it safe and trust your gut feeling that you are actually in space and that you would instantly die by exposing yourself to space. I would be very surprised if any flat-earther could honestly say that they would take the chance to 'expose themselves' to space.

Can a flat-earther ask a question similar to this? Can a flat-earther ask a round-earther to trust their belief with their life? I know I sure trust the globe earth with my life!n nn

I doubt any RE'er would voluntarily expose themself to 'space'.

Lots of RE'ers have voluntarily (and un-voluntarily)  exposed themself to going to sea on a ship.....Why not FE'ers ?

Have you ever actually been to the horizon?

No...You never reach the horizon. It's an illusion that you are always going to it but never get on it. It's always the same distance from you...in all directions..,.,360 degrees.

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 09, 2018, 08:25:27 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 09, 2018, 08:15:14 PM

Quote from: ignorant_globehead on December 09, 2018, 08:10:53 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on December 09, 2018, 05:33:29 PM

Since you'll never be able to put one of us in a rocket and send us into space, what is the point? Is this supposed to be a debate?

That is not the point of this thread. The point is, if you were in a rocket in 'orbit' would you trust your theory enough to expose yourself to 'space', or would you just play it safe and trust your gut feeling that you are actually in space and that you would instantly die by exposing yourself to space. I would be very surprised if any flat-earther could honestly say that they would take the chance to 'expose themselves' to space.

Can a flat-earther ask a question similar to this? Can a flat-earther ask a round-earther to trust their belief with their life? I know I sure trust the globe earth with my life!n nn

I doubt any RE'er would voluntarily expose themself to 'space'.

Lots of RE'ers have voluntarily (and un-voluntarily)  exposed themself to going to sea on a ship.....Why not FE'ers ?

Have you ever actually been to the horizon?

Have you ever actually been to sea ?
Or even been to a beach or shore and looked out on the ocean ?
Why haven't you ?
Would any flat earther take a chance on that ?

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 09, 2018, 08:34:16 PM

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 09, 2018, 08:25:27 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 09, 2018, 08:15:14 PM

Quote from: ignorant_globehead on December 09, 2018, 08:10:53 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on December 09, 2018, 05:33:29 PM

Since you'll never be able to put one of us in a rocket and send us into space, what is the point? Is this supposed to be a debate?

That is not the point of this thread. The point is, if you were in a rocket in 'orbit' would you trust your theory enough to expose yourself to 'space', or would you just play it safe and trust your gut feeling that you are actually in space and that you would instantly die by exposing yourself to space. I would be very surprised if any flat-earther could honestly say that they would take the chance to 'expose themselves' to space.

Can a flat-earther ask a question similar to this? Can a flat-earther ask a round-earther to trust their belief with their life? I know I sure trust the globe earth with my life!n nn

I doubt any RE'er would voluntarily expose themself to 'space'.

Lots of RE'ers have voluntarily (and un-voluntarily)  exposed themself to going to sea on a ship.....Why not FE'ers ?

Have you ever actually been to the horizon?

No...You never reach the horizon. It's an illusion that you are always going to it but never get on it. It's always the same distance from you...in all directions..,.,360 degrees.

I thought you said if you scurry up the rigging o'er the main mast skysail
the horizon moved away from the ship.
Now it's always the same distance from you...in all directions..,.,360 degrees?

Have you ever actually been to sea ?
Or even been to a beach or shore and looked out on the ocean ?
Why haven't you ?
Would any flat earther take a chance on that ?

I live about 45,000 inches from the Pacific in Imperial Beach.

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 09, 2018, 08:48:27 PM

Have you ever actually been to sea ?
Or even been to a beach or shore and looked out on the ocean ?
Why haven't you ?
Would any flat earther take a chance on that ?

I live about 45,000 inches from the Pacific in Imperial Beach.

That's a hell of a lot of inches!

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 09, 2018, 09:05:48 PM

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 09, 2018, 08:48:27 PM

Have you ever actually been to sea ?
Or even been to a beach or shore and looked out on the ocean ?
Why haven't you ?
Would any flat earther take a chance on that ?

I live about 45,000 inches from the Pacific in Imperial Beach.

That's a hell of a lot of inches!

More impressive than half a mile.   

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 09, 2018, 08:48:27 PM

Have you ever actually been to sea ?
Or even been to a beach or shore and looked out on the ocean ?
Why haven't you ?
Would any flat earther take a chance on that ?

I live about 45,000 inches from the Pacific in Imperial Beach.

Can you see Diamond Head from the beach ?

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 09, 2018, 09:05:48 PM

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 09, 2018, 08:48:27 PM

Have you ever actually been to sea ?
Or even been to a beach or shore and looked out on the ocean ?
Why haven't you ?
Would any flat earther take a chance on that ?

I live about 45,000 inches from the Pacific in Imperial Beach.

Can you see Diamond Head from the beach ?

Yes.

One does not instantly die when exposed to space.

*Nitpicking modus deactivated*

No, but one can imagine it not being comfortable. And sticking your head out into a vacuum.... What's the pay off? You wouldn't see a thing because your body would be under so much duress fighting death

Quote from: Shifter on December 09, 2018, 09:09:45 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 09, 2018, 09:05:48 PM

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 09, 2018, 08:48:27 PM

Have you ever actually been to sea ?
Or even been to a beach or shore and looked out on the ocean ?
Why haven't you ?
Would any flat earther take a chance on that ?

I live about 45,000 inches from the Pacific in Imperial Beach.

That's a hell of a lot of inches!

More impressive than half a mile.   

Because it's about 40% more than half a mile?

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 09, 2018, 09:05:48 PM

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 09, 2018, 08:48:27 PM

Have you ever actually been to sea ?
Or even been to a beach or shore and looked out on the ocean ?
Why haven't you ?
Would any flat earther take a chance on that ?

I live about 45,000 inches from the Pacific in Imperial Beach.

That's a hell of a lot of inches!

That's what she said..

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 09, 2018, 08:25:27 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 09, 2018, 08:15:14 PM

Quote from: ignorant_globehead on December 09, 2018, 08:10:53 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on December 09, 2018, 05:33:29 PM

Since you'll never be able to put one of us in a rocket and send us into space, what is the point? Is this supposed to be a debate?

That is not the point of this thread. The point is, if you were in a rocket in 'orbit' would you trust your theory enough to expose yourself to 'space', or would you just play it safe and trust your gut feeling that you are actually in space and that you would instantly die by exposing yourself to space. I would be very surprised if any flat-earther could honestly say that they would take the chance to 'expose themselves' to space.

Can a flat-earther ask a question similar to this? Can a flat-earther ask a round-earther to trust their belief with their life? I know I sure trust the globe earth with my life!n nn

I doubt any RE'er would voluntarily expose themself to 'space'.

Lots of RE'ers have voluntarily (and un-voluntarily)  exposed themself to going to sea on a ship.....Why not FE'ers ?

Have you ever actually been to the horizon?

If you are swimming in the ocean, and lower your head into the water with your eyes open, does the horizon not actually touch your eyeball?

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 09, 2018, 08:34:16 PM

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 09, 2018, 08:25:27 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 09, 2018, 08:15:14 PM

Quote from: ignorant_globehead on December 09, 2018, 08:10:53 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on December 09, 2018, 05:33:29 PM

Since you'll never be able to put one of us in a rocket and send us into space, what is the point? Is this supposed to be a debate?

That is not the point of this thread. The point is, if you were in a rocket in 'orbit' would you trust your theory enough to expose yourself to 'space', or would you just play it safe and trust your gut feeling that you are actually in space and that you would instantly die by exposing yourself to space. I would be very surprised if any flat-earther could honestly say that they would take the chance to 'expose themselves' to space.

Can a flat-earther ask a question similar to this? Can a flat-earther ask a round-earther to trust their belief with their life? I know I sure trust the globe earth with my life!n nn

I doubt any RE'er would voluntarily expose themself to 'space'.

Lots of RE'ers have voluntarily (and un-voluntarily)  exposed themself to going to sea on a ship.....Why not FE'ers ?

Have you ever actually been to the horizon?

If you are swimming in the ocean, and lower your head into the water with your eyes open, does the horizon not actually touch your eyeball?

mind = blown 

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 09, 2018, 08:34:16 PM

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 09, 2018, 08:25:27 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 09, 2018, 08:15:14 PM

Quote from: ignorant_globehead on December 09, 2018, 08:10:53 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on December 09, 2018, 05:33:29 PM

Since you'll never be able to put one of us in a rocket and send us into space, what is the point? Is this supposed to be a debate?

That is not the point of this thread. The point is, if you were in a rocket in 'orbit' would you trust your theory enough to expose yourself to 'space', or would you just play it safe and trust your gut feeling that you are actually in space and that you would instantly die by exposing yourself to space. I would be very surprised if any flat-earther could honestly say that they would take the chance to 'expose themselves' to space.

Can a flat-earther ask a question similar to this? Can a flat-earther ask a round-earther to trust their belief with their life? I know I sure trust the globe earth with my life!n nn

I doubt any RE'er would voluntarily expose themself to 'space'.

Lots of RE'ers have voluntarily (and un-voluntarily)  exposed themself to going to sea on a ship.....Why not FE'ers ?

Have you ever actually been to the horizon?

If you are swimming in the ocean, and lower your head into the water with your eyes open, does the horizon not actually touch your eyeball?

Only if your eyeballs are open as you go under water.

Quote from: Here to laugh at you on December 10, 2018, 01:40:28 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 09, 2018, 08:34:16 PM

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 09, 2018, 08:25:27 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 09, 2018, 08:15:14 PM

Quote from: ignorant_globehead on December 09, 2018, 08:10:53 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on December 09, 2018, 05:33:29 PM

Since you'll never be able to put one of us in a rocket and send us into space, what is the point? Is this supposed to be a debate?

That is not the point of this thread. The point is, if you were in a rocket in 'orbit' would you trust your theory enough to expose yourself to 'space', or would you just play it safe and trust your gut feeling that you are actually in space and that you would instantly die by exposing yourself to space. I would be very surprised if any flat-earther could honestly say that they would take the chance to 'expose themselves' to space.

Can a flat-earther ask a question similar to this? Can a flat-earther ask a round-earther to trust their belief with their life? I know I sure trust the globe earth with my life!n nn

I doubt any RE'er would voluntarily expose themself to 'space'.

Lots of RE'ers have voluntarily (and un-voluntarily)  exposed themself to going to sea on a ship.....Why not FE'ers ?

Have you ever actually been to the horizon?

If you are swimming in the ocean, and lower your head into the water with your eyes open, does the horizon not actually touch your eyeball?

Only if your eyeballs are open as you go under water.

That's not an unusual or difficult thing

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 09, 2018, 09:51:38 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 09, 2018, 09:05:48 PM

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 09, 2018, 08:48:27 PM

Have you ever actually been to sea ?
Or even been to a beach or shore and looked out on the ocean ?
Why haven't you ?
Would any flat earther take a chance on that ?

I live about 45,000 inches from the Pacific in Imperial Beach.

Can you see Diamond Head from the beach ?

Yes.

Maybe I didn't understand you or you didn't understand my question.

So, what I meant was.
If you were standing on the shore on the beach at Imperial Beach , California and looked out westward on the Pacific Ocean , if you could see Diamond Head at Honolulu, Hawaii. There's more to this, but this is a starting point for this debate.

However there no such thing as a debate about the shape of the earth. It's a near-perfect globe no matter how much you want to nit-pick about the very slight "oblate" or "pear shape" you want.

And that map you say is a "model" for a flat earth - the one with the "ice walll" - it's just The Unipolar - North Polar - Azimuthal Equidistant Projection - Of the Globe. Same goes for the Bipolar Projection.