Who Guards the Edge

Hi everyone.

First time poster here. I'm a bit confused about why there haven't been photographs of the edge of the world. Has the edge always been guarded? Who guards it, and how many people are involved?

Best,
Klaus

I've actually encountered several different reasonings upon this forum; it depends on which model of the flat earth you are using (infinite plane, finite plane, dome, etc.).
Some of the most common theories about the edge (for it resides beyond known exploration) are the ice wall theory (in which a very thick, impenetrable wall of ice surrounds the world), or that the earth is simply an infinite plane.

The answer depends on which FE Model is being used and who you ask.  I've heard that it's guarded by thousands of ships controlled by NASA as well as trained Penguins.  Don't know how serious the latter is, but both of those would assume that it wasn't always guarded.

The answer depends on which FE Model is being used and who you ask.  I've heard that it's guarded by thousands of ships controlled by NASA as well as trained Penguins.  Don't know how serious the latter is, but both of those would assume that it wasn't always guarded.

It does depend on which "flat earther" you ask on any particular "flat earth" subject as to what answer you will get.
There is one "flat earth" opinion that it wasn't necessary to guard the ice wall until recently for some reason and that is the reason the guarding is controlled by NASA now.

If you will read some of Rowbotham's writings, you can find a very detailed description of the ice wall and what lies beyond it.

There is two theories about the earth as; finitive or infinitive. Edge; if exists, ie if the earth is limited, so has been guarded by weather conditions. If the edge is not exist, ie if the earth is infinitive in plan, so has been guarded by weather conditions again. In short, weather conditions have limited the human inside the known earth.

No one is guarding it per se.  If you want to visit Antarctica, you can do it.  It costs between $9000 to $15000. 

Here is an excerpt from one of the travel websites where you can book your Antarctica Trip.

For many adventure travelers Antarctica is the ultimate destination. After all, the other six continents are fairly easy to get to, and its not at all unusual to visit those places on a variety of independent or organized excursions. But Antarctica takes some effort – not to mention a considerable amount of money – which puts it out of the realm of possibility for a lot of travelers.

Thousands of people do visit the frozen continent each austral summer thanks to Antarctic cruise operators like Quark Expeditions and travel guides such as Adventure Network International. Many of those companies are members of the International Association of Antarctic Tour Operators (IAATO), an organization that is dedicated to promoting safe and sustainable tourism to Antarctica.


here is a blogger who has visited there about 5 years ago.

https://www.gotravelyourway.com/2013/11/14/how-to-travel-to-antarctica-on-a-budget/

After doing a little more research, I found one more with some better pictures of their journey to Antarctica.

https://mrandmrshowe.com/lifestyle-blog/antarctica-travel-guide-for-filipinos

One more edit...  Here is a video blog

so has been guarded by weather conditions again.

So could be defeated by wearing a nice warm coat?

Quote from: wise on December 08, 2018, 03:06:22 AM

so has been guarded by weather conditions again.

So could be defeated by wearing a nice warm coat?

If you want to get the conditions so you have to stay a freezed place under -100 santigrad selsius. If we want to compare it so deep freezes are between -18 to -23 santigrad and freezes almost everything. In Yakutsk, the coldest place in center hemicircle has mostly about -55 degrees in winter; if anyone stays a minute outside with wearing a nice warm coat but freezes in a minute. You need to test -110 degree to get what goes on deep sides of Antarctica.

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on December 10, 2018, 08:13:01 AM

Quote from: wise on December 08, 2018, 03:06:22 AM

so has been guarded by weather conditions again.

So could be defeated by wearing a nice warm coat?

If you want to get the conditions so you have to stay a freezed place under -100 santigrad selsius. If we want to compare it so deep freezes are between -18 to -23 santigrad and freezes almost everything. In Yakutsk, the coldest place in center hemicircle has mostly about -55 degrees in winter; if anyone stays a minute outside with wearing a nice warm coat but freezes in a minute. You need to test -110 degree to get what goes on deep sides of Antarctica.

We are not talking about going deep into Antarctica. Question is "who guards the edge?" If temperatures of -100 degrees in Antarctica,  definitely not that cold at the edges. Afterall the southernmost parts if South America and South Africa are not that far away from the edge. So anyone can get there if only the weather guards it and sail along the edge to se if you can do a left turn around Antarctica or if it is a coastline of over 60,000 km.

But if there are actual guardes and or trained commando penguins, well, that's a different thing entirely.

Hi everyone.

First time poster here. I'm a bit confused about why there haven't been photographs of the edge of the world. Has the edge always been guarded? Who guards it, and how many people are involved?

Best,
Klaus

The short answer is, "no-one" and there have been quite a number of private flights landing at the South Pole.
But if the plane needs refueling it's up to the flight organisers to arrange for supplies where needed. Antarctic Bases do not supply fuel to unannounced drop-ins.

But there are certainly no armed guards that shoot down even unannounced private planes.

Stuck Antarctic pilot refused fuel for flight home
An Australian pilot stranded in the Antarctic says it makes no sense for New Zealand and United States authorities to refuse to sell him fuel to fly home.

Adelaide's Jon Johanson today also rejected suggestions he had not properly prepared for his history-making solo flight over the South Pole, the first in a home-built, single-engine aircraft.

Johanson was forced to land his aircraft at the US-NZ McMurdo-Scott base after high winds prevented the adventurer from reaching Argentina.

He now needs about 400 litres of fuel to fly home.

But both the US and New Zealand have refused to supply the fuel as part of a policy to discourage visitors to the base and have offered to fly him back to NZ and then ship his plane home later at his own expense.

While he "rejected suggestions he had not properly prepared for his history-making solo flight", arranging emergency supplies is part of proper preparation.

This one did prepare properly.

Club Member Art Mortvedt reaches both Poles in the same plane

The Explorers Club is proud to announce the successful solo flight of 2009 Lowell Thomas Award winner Art Mortvedt MN’84.

Having first landed his Polar Pumpkin Cessna 185 exactly at 90 degrees South—the Geographic South Pole—on November 22, 1999, he recently made his bid for 90 degrees North carrying Flag #53.

Mortvedt explains, “On April 6, 2013, I flew over the Geographic North Pole. Ice conditions were too jumbled and problematic to land exactly at 90 degrees north, so I landed approximately 20 miles away from the Geographic North Pole. For me, that’s pretty close. I was not willing to risk everything - the plane, the scientific equipment, years of preparation, the Explorers Club Flag . . . my life, etc. - by attempting to land in the jumbled ice and snow precisely at 90 degrees north.”

As it turns out, another daring aviator—Australian Jon Johanson—flew solo over the North Pole in 2000, and later in 2003 also flew solo over the South Pole in a single engine RV-4 aircraft.

But no-one "Guards the Edge".

We are still exploring (mapping) the Earth. There is much not known and what we do know leans in the direction of claims made by FEers.

 

We are still exploring (mapping) the Earth. There is much not known and what we do know leans in the direction of claims made by FEers.

Please list these unmapped parts of the Earth because they certainly don't include the coastline of Antarctica.

It may appear too easy, but the un-mapped portions of Earth are ones that remain undiscovered.

There is a certain logic here that makes good sense.  That being round Earth believers subscribe to tenets derived from incomplete evidence.  You will see proof that counts and I repeat speaking in the future tense...you will see proof that counts. 

Quote from: gotham on December 10, 2018, 08:14:25 PM

We are still exploring (mapping) the Earth. There is much not known and what we do know leans in the direction of claims made by FEers.

Please list these unmapped parts of the Earth because they certainly don't include the coastline of Antarctica.

Where have you been? This was pretty big news

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/huge-new-cave-discovered-in-canada-gets-star-wars-monster-moniker-20181210-p50lbq.html

Lots of places are unmapped/undiscovered. Do you think if a place like this was hiding in plain sight in a country where more than 36 million people live that we know all there is to know about Antarctica where only a few people allegedly work?

It may appear too easy, but the un-mapped portions of Earth are ones that remain undiscovered.

There is a certain logic here that makes good sense.  That being round Earth believers subscribe to tenets derived from incomplete evidence.  You will see proof that counts and I repeat speaking in the future tense...you will see proof that counts.

As to the un-mapped portions of the earth that remain undiscovered, that would mean that Flat Earth believers, just as Round Earth believers, subscribe to tenets derived from incomplete evidence. I see no difference between RE and FE in that regard.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/huge-new-cave-discovered-in-canada-gets-star-wars-monster-moniker-20181210-p50lbq.html

How does a cave qualify as an unmapped part of the earth?

Quote from: Shifter on December 11, 2018, 02:42:08 PM

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/huge-new-cave-discovered-in-canada-gets-star-wars-monster-moniker-20181210-p50lbq.html

How does a cave qualify as an unmapped part of the earth?

Because, gee I dunno. Maybe It's part of the Earth 

Quote from: rabinoz on December 11, 2018, 05:24:49 PM

Quote from: Shifter on December 11, 2018, 02:42:08 PM

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/huge-new-cave-discovered-in-canada-gets-star-wars-monster-moniker-20181210-p50lbq.html

How does a cave qualify as an unmapped part of the earth?

Because, gee I dunno. Maybe It's part of the Earth 

Was that cave in "an unmapped part of the earth?"

But in any case what is the relevance to the topic, "Who Guards the Edge"? Last I heard there was no "edge" in Canada.
But, classic Shifter, divert attention from the topic wich some irrelevancy!

The edge is all around you.

Quote from: gotham on December 10, 2018, 08:14:25 PM

We are still exploring (mapping) the Earth. There is much not known and what we do know leans in the direction of claims made by FEers.

Please list these unmapped parts of the Earth because they certainly don't include the coastline of Antarctica.

lists an unmapped part of the earth

But in any case what is the relevance to the topic, "Who Guards the Edge"?

 

Quote from: rabinoz on December 10, 2018, 08:32:37 PM

Quote from: gotham on December 10, 2018, 08:14:25 PM

We are still exploring (mapping) the Earth. There is much not known and what we do know leans in the direction of claims made by FEers.

Please list these unmapped parts of the Earth because they certainly don't include the coastline of Antarctica.

lists an unmapped part of the earth

Quote from: rabinoz on December 11, 2018, 05:43:47 PM

But in any case what is the relevance to the topic, "Who Guards the Edge"?

And why would you claim that the coastline of Antarctica is unmapped? Look a map of Antarctica:And even on the "Bipolar Flat Earth Map". Look a map of Antarctica on a Flat Earth Map. It's small but it's there:And even Sandokhan's "True map of the earth" includes Antarctica.

So where were these "unmapped parts of the earth" again?
Please remember that this is what you objected to "they certainly don't include the coastline of Antarctica."

Quote from: Shifter on December 11, 2018, 06:43:05 PM

Quote from: rabinoz on December 10, 2018, 08:32:37 PM

Quote from: gotham on December 10, 2018, 08:14:25 PM

We are still exploring (mapping) the Earth. There is much not known and what we do know leans in the direction of claims made by FEers.

Please list these unmapped parts of the Earth because they certainly don't include the coastline of Antarctica.

lists an unmapped part of the earth

Quote from: rabinoz on December 11, 2018, 05:43:47 PM

But in any case what is the relevance to the topic, "Who Guards the Edge"?

And why would you claim that the coastline of Antarctica is unmapped? Look a map of Antarctica:

Geology.com: Map of Antarctica and the Southern Ocean

And even on the "Bipolar Flat Earth Map". Look a map of Antarctica on a Flat Earth Map. It's small but it's there:

Another alternative model descripting Antarctica as a distinct continent.
There is still an "ice wall" in this model, but it not Antarctica.
Beyond the rays of the sun the waters will naturally freeze.

And even Sandokhan's "True map of the earth" includes Antarctica.

So where were these "unmapped parts of the earth" again?
Please remember that this is what you objected to "they certainly don't include the coastline of Antarctica."

And your original objection was someone saying we haven't mapped/discovered all the Earth yet

Quote from: rabinoz on December 10, 2018, 08:32:37 PM

Quote from: gotham on December 10, 2018, 08:14:25 PM

We are still exploring (mapping) the Earth. There is much not known and what we do know leans in the direction of claims made by FEers.

Please list these unmapped parts of the Earth because they certainly don't include the coastline of Antarctica.

We could circle jerk all day... Do you have any evidence you could present here on this forum in your very next post that Antarctica as depicted in all the maps is 100% accurate, discovered and complete? If not, then your post was just time wasting grand standing

We could circle jerk all day...

Sure we could and the Trollmeister Shifter will do his best to see that it does that.

Do you have any evidence you could present here on this forum in your very next post that Antarctica as depicted in all the maps is 100% accurate, discovered and complete?

Do you have any relevant contrary evidence, bearing in mind that the topic is "Who Guards the Edge"?
All that matters is whether or not there is an guarded ice-wall circling the earth. Maybe your ASI could elucidate.
And point is that there is no edge and there are no guards.

If you have anything relevant to add please do otherwise stuff a dirty smelly sock in it where it might best keep you quiet.

Quote from: Shifter

Do you have any evidence you could present here on this forum in your very next post that Antarctica as depicted in all the maps is 100% accurate, discovered and complete?

Do you have any relevant contrary evidence, bearing in mind that the topic is "Who Guards the Edge"?
All that matters is whether or not there is an guarded ice-wall circling the earth. Maybe your ASI could elucidate.
And point is that there is no edge and there are no guards.

If you have anything relevant to add please do otherwise stuff a dirty smelly sock in it where it might best keep you quiet.

Actually the question was "Who Guards the Edge",
not 'what's your opinion of the the edge'.

So, if you happen to have a dirty smelly sock handy . . .

Quote from: rabinoz on December 12, 2018, 12:16:10 AM

Quote from: Shifter

Do you have any evidence you could present here on this forum in your very next post that Antarctica as depicted in all the maps is 100% accurate, discovered and complete?

Do you have any relevant contrary evidence, bearing in mind that the topic is "Who Guards the Edge"?
All that matters is whether or not there is an guarded ice-wall circling the earth. Maybe your ASI could elucidate.
And point is that there is no edge and there are no guards.

If you have anything relevant to add please do otherwise stuff a dirty smelly sock in it where it might best keep you quiet.

Actually the question was "Who Guards the Edge",
not 'what's your opinion of the the edge'.

So, if you happen to have a dirty smelly sock handy . . .

And my post that might have prompted Gotham's claim was:

Quote from: Klaus Morlock on November 26, 2018, 06:25:31 PM

Hi everyone.
First time poster here. I'm a bit confused about why there haven't been photographs of the edge of the world. Has the edge always been guarded? Who guards it, and how many people are involved?
Best, Klausauthority

The short answer is, "no-one" and there have been quite a number of private flights landing at the South Pole.
But if the plane needs refueling it's up to the flight organisers to arrange for supplies where needed. Antarctic Bases do not supply fuel to unannounced drop-ins.

But there are certainly no armed guards that shoot down even unannounced private planes.
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But no-one "Guards the Edge".

Wait...

A flat earther brings up unmapped portions of the earth?


Where's YOUR map, flattie?

What a stupid question. He has bodyguards, everyone knows that.

What a stupid question. He has bodyguards, everyone knows that.

Wait, Larry Mullin, U2 drummer, guards the Edge? Who guards Larry? Bono?

Round Earth believers are more than lost attempting to stretch the globe into something that resembles reality. 

Hearing their complaints about our map(s) is very entertaining, considering they use flat maps to navigate with.

Round Earth believers are more than lost attempting to stretch the globe into something that resembles reality. 

Hearing their complaints about our map(s) is very entertaining, considering they use flat maps to navigate with.

Interesting. B/c all of the flat earth "maps" are derived from globe projections. Which is exceedingly ironic.