I have examined two of talkers Rob Skiba and Karen B, whose I follow earlier;
Rob Skiba mentioned the flat earth society but Karen did not. I think our team has affected her; because her performance was no good. I think our warnings a few worked.
If you pay attention, he has not blamed us as well, just mentioned a few. The main problem is: "none of them belonged the flat earth society". In other say, if we were at there as corporate structure, so these discussings perhaps never would happened.