I am very, very sorry.

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« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2018, 11:26:20 AM »
Lots of trolling here but its OK. I wish admins would cull the herd here. LOL Anyways did you guys know there are no time zones in Antarctica nor the North Pole. That is right if you were to go to Antarctica which appears to be a huge landmass on the globe you and your co workers would literally have to pick any time zone agree upon it and go from there. For example South Pole mostly shares same time zone with New Zealand even thou its no where near it.  How can such huge continent have no clear time zones? Same thing with North Pole no set time zone. Imagine going to sleep there and asking your friend to wake you up at 8 a.m. Only to find out that hours do not really exist where you at. You guys always ask for the evidence to prove that globe is not real, well I just gave you one. This does not prove flat earth, but clearly disproves the globe.
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« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2018, 11:33:37 AM »
Lots of trolling here but its OK. I wish admins would cull the herd here. LOL Anyways did you guys know there are no time zones in Antarctica nor the North Pole. That is right if you were to go to Antarctica which appears to be a huge landmass on the globe you and your co workers would literally have to pick any time zone agree upon it and go from there. For example South Pole mostly shares same time zone with New Zealand even thou its no where near it.  How can such huge continent have no clear time zones? Same thing with North Pole no set time zone. Imagine going to sleep there and asking your friend to wake you up at 8 a.m. Only to find out that hours do not really exist where you at. You guys always ask for the evidence to prove that globe is not real, well I just gave you one. This does not prove flat earth, but clearly disproves the globe.

No designated timezone does not disprove the globe.
If "deserving" time was a factor for responding on these forums, then no one would be here posting.

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« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2018, 12:18:28 PM »
Lots of trolling here but its OK. I wish admins would cull the herd here. LOL Anyways did you guys know there are no time zones in Antarctica nor the North Pole. That is right if you were to go to Antarctica which appears to be a huge landmass on the globe you and your co workers would literally have to pick any time zone agree upon it and go from there. For example South Pole mostly shares same time zone with New Zealand even thou its no where near it.  How can such huge continent have no clear time zones? Same thing with North Pole no set time zone. Imagine going to sleep there and asking your friend to wake you up at 8 a.m. Only to find out that hours do not really exist where you at. You guys always ask for the evidence to prove that globe is not real, well I just gave you one. This does not prove flat earth, but clearly disproves the globe.

I don't know what timezones have to do with much of anything here. But for example, India has their own unique timezone offset from the rest of the world's timezones by 30 minutes.

"Indian ServerTime (IST) is the time observed throughout India, with a time offset of UTC+05:30. India does not observe daylight saving time (DST) or other seasonal adjustments."

Does the fact that India has their own unique timezone or that Antarctica shares theirs with New Zealand have anything to do with disproving the globe? I think not.

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« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2018, 02:21:26 PM »
Lots of trolling here but its OK. I wish admins would cull the herd here. LOL Anyways did you guys know there are no time zones in Antarctica nor the North Pole. That is right if you were to go to Antarctica which appears to be a huge landmass on the globe you and your co workers would literally have to pick any time zone agree upon it and go from there. For example South Pole mostly shares same time zone with New Zealand even thou its no where near it.  How can such huge continent have no clear time zones? Same thing with North Pole no set time zone. Imagine going to sleep there and asking your friend to wake you up at 8 a.m. Only to find out that hours do not really exist where you at. You guys always ask for the evidence to prove that globe is not real, well I just gave you one. This does not prove flat earth, but clearly disproves the globe.

Leaving aside the fact that several time zones are in use in Antarctica, how would it disprove a globe if that wasn't the case?

The choice of time zone at the poles is somewhat arbitrary. This is a consequence of the earth being a globe. Do you see why that is?

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« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2018, 02:51:05 PM »
Leaving aside the fact that several time zones are in use in Antarctica, how would it disprove a globe if that wasn't the case?

The choice of time zone at the poles is somewhat arbitrary. This is a consequence of the earth being a globe. Do you see why that is?

Funny, this is where I was going, but I thought the concept would be lost on New Earth.

New Earth, there are 24+ timezones in the world. Put on your thinking cap and ruminate on why that may have been avoided at the poles. Hint: Looking at a globe may help you understand the concept.

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« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2018, 03:28:23 PM »
Lots of trolling here but its OK. I wish admins would cull the herd here. LOL Anyways did you guys know there are no time zones in Antarctica nor the North Pole. That is right if you were to go to Antarctica which appears to be a huge landmass on the globe you and your co workers would literally have to pick any time zone agree upon it and go from there. For example South Pole mostly shares same time zone with New Zealand even thou its no where near it.  How can such huge continent have no clear time zones?
Totally incorrect! Look at this little gem:

Time Zones Currently Being Used in Antarctica including at THE South Pole

Right at THE Geographic Pole, where the Amundsen-Scott Base is located, they do "same time zone with New Zealand" because most flights are from and to there.
But other places use time zones relevant to their location.

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Same thing with North Pole no set time zone. Imagine going to sleep there and asking your friend to wake you up at 8 a.m. Only to find out that hours do not really exist where you at.
Since the Geographic South Pole has 24-hour daylight from the September equinox to the March equinox and the North pole the other half year "going to sleep there and asking your friend to wake you up at 8 a.m" in quite unavoidable.
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You guys always ask for the evidence to prove that globe is not real, well I just gave you one. This does not prove flat earth, but clearly disproves the globe.
Yup, we certainly do "always ask for the evidence to prove that globe is not real" but I'm afraid all you did not give us anything.

Now, while the time-zones and 24-hour daylight might not prove the earth a Globe it certainly debunks that usual Ice-Wall/UN Flag flat earth latout!

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« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2018, 04:04:05 PM »
Regardless of whether the Earth is flat or round, both the north and south pole have 6 months of sunlight followed by six months of dark. It really doesn't matter what time zone you use there. So it makes sense for each station to use the time zone of its sponsoring country.

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« Reply #37 on: October 19, 2018, 04:25:30 PM »
Right at THE Geographic Pole, where the Amundsen-Scott Base is located, they do "same time zone with New Zealand" because most flights are from and to there.

To clarify, most flights to and from Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station, and most of the station's logistics and support, are from McMurdo Station, at the edge of the Ross Ice Shelf. So, for convenience, since any time zone is as good as any other at the pole, they both use the same time zone.

Most flights to and from McMurdo are from the US Antatrctic Program's support and logistics facility in Christchurch, NZ, so, again for convenience, McMurdo uses NZ time; it makes scheduling flights easier since no time change is involved, and office hours coincide. McMurdo is roughly due south of Christchurch, so when there are day-night cycles there around the equinoxes, they're in sync with NZ anyway, so it's a logical choice for that reason, too.

Time zones are a human creation to make interaction among different regions around the globe simpler. Their application near the poles becomes more a matter of convenience since whether the sun is above the horizon or not is dictated less by the time of day than it is by the season.
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« Reply #38 on: October 19, 2018, 06:13:28 PM »
Lots of trolling here but its OK. I wish admins would cull the herd here.
Yes, New Earth, there sure is "lots of trolling here" and much of it is coming from the likes of you posting quite incorrect material as your own post.

I guess you'd prefer a forum where you're free to post any sort of disinformation you like without any opposition.

Well, do I have news for you. Just submit an application to those admins for you to be  ;) elevated ;) to the "rank of True Believer".
Then you can join the underworld in the Flat Earth Believers' Forum. If you wish, post only there and never be concerned by "true facts" again.

That's one way the herd can be "culled" of those who refuse to see reality.

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« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2018, 01:17:59 AM »
New Earth, it's ok, I know you're not a troll. You can't troll support for a flat earth on a flat earth forum, can you?

So, you're question to me was, "So you're working there, but how do you know the shape of the land your're working on?" Is that about right?

Well, New Earth, I don't need to travel into outer space in a spaceship to answer that question. There is this other invention called an "aircraft". You may have heard of it?

I will be doing flights across Antarctica, from one side to the other, straight over the magnetic south pole. I'll be living on one of the scientific bases.

Find yourself a flat piece of paper, New Earth, scrunch it into a ball and write, "Earth" on it. On the bottom of your new earth ball is where you can find me.
For the overall shape of Earth to be flat, requires billions of people and billions of pieces of information about Earth to be wrong. Do the maths.

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« Reply #40 on: October 20, 2018, 07:00:42 AM »
Time zones are a human creation to make interaction among different regions around the globe simpler.

Time zones were actually created to make railroad timetables easier. When every town set its clocks to local noon, railroad timetables were a holy mess.

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« Reply #41 on: October 20, 2018, 07:15:49 AM »
Time zones are a human creation to make interaction among different regions around the globe simpler.

Time zones were actually created to make railroad timetables easier. When every town set its clocks to local noon, railroad timetables were a holy mess.

Yep, but the benefit applies globally.
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« Reply #42 on: October 20, 2018, 01:41:50 PM »
Time zones are a human creation to make interaction among different regions around the globe simpler.

Time zones were actually created to make railroad timetables easier. When every town set its clocks to local noon, railroad timetables were a holy mess.

Yep, but the benefit applies globally.

But those benefits came later, since at the time communication between distant places took long enough that the coordination of the time of day was not an issue. Railroad travel, not communicating across distances, was the impetus.

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« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2018, 01:27:45 PM »
New Earth, it's ok, I know you're not a troll. You can't troll support for a flat earth on a flat earth forum, can you?

So, you're question to me was, "So you're working there, but how do you know the shape of the land your're working on?" Is that about right?

Well, New Earth, I don't need to travel into outer space in a spaceship to answer that question. There is this other invention called an "aircraft". You may have heard of it?

I will be doing flights across Antarctica, from one side to the other, straight over the magnetic south pole. I'll be living on one of the scientific bases.

Find yourself a flat piece of paper, N ew Earth, scrunch it into a ball and write, "Earth" on it. On the bottom of your new earth ball is where you can find me.


You guys are so full of shit about time zones. Time zones exist because Heleocentric model of the rotating globe must be explained. The concept of time is not something people agree upon, its either real or not. They could not figure out how to lie about South or North Pole. They could not solve it. I don't wanna talk about this anymore please do not comment. But hey Sunset you are full of shit dude. You more full of shit then Rab at this point. First of all why you getting smart with me and asking me if I know what aircraft is? I have been on more flights then most people. You saying you will fly across Antarctica straight over South Pole, since there are no airports in Antarctica how? what exactly do you do? Why would anyone fly you across Antarctica. Its a no fly zone. You never going there,  you a troll my dude.
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« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2018, 01:48:58 PM »
You guys are so full of shit about time zones. Time zones exist because Heleocentric model of the rotating globe must be explained. The concept of time is not something people agree upon, its either real or not. They could not figure out how to lie about South or North Pole. They could not solve it. I don't wanna talk about this anymore please do not comment. But hey Sunset you are full of shit dude. You more full of shit then Rab at this point. First of all why you getting smart with me and asking me if I know what aircraft is? I have been on more flights then most people. You saying you will fly across Antarctica straight over South Pole, since there are no airports in Antarctica how? what exactly do you do? Why would anyone fly you across Antarctica. Its a no fly zone. You never going there,  you a troll my dude.

If not wanting comment, why ask questions?

And if your no comment comments are directed toward the notion of Antarctica being a 'no fly zone', etc. can you provide proof of that fact? I mean it's one thing to 'think you can't fly there' and another thing to 'know you can't fly there'. The 'know' requires evidence. In the absence of 'know', 'think' is, well, just 'think'.

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« Reply #45 on: October 21, 2018, 02:40:28 PM »
Translation: "It doesn't look right"!

Though, you have no idea what it SHOULD look like!
I know one thing...this is most certainly as real as those really bad....and i mean really bad globe pics rabinoz posts time and time again.....

What specifically is bad about them?

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« Reply #46 on: October 21, 2018, 03:30:33 PM »
You guys are so full of shit about time zones. Time zones exist because Heleocentric model of the rotating globe must be explained.

No, they exist because dealing with the fact that the sun crosses the meridian at different times at different longitudes is easiest in approximately one-hour chunks.

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The concept of time is not something people agree upon, its either real or not.

Time has an effect on our lives. If you don't want to believe it's real or not is irrelevant.

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They could not figure out how to lie about South or North Pole. They could not solve it.

There's nothing to solve except what to use as the reference for time of day near the poles since any reference is as good as any other. Groups of people simply agree to one that is most practical for them, and use that.

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I don't wanna talk about this anymore please do not comment.

Feel free not to comment further, then, or even read the replies. Problem solved.
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« Reply #47 on: October 21, 2018, 04:05:20 PM »
New Earth, it's ok, I know you're not a troll. You can't troll support for a flat earth on a flat earth forum, can you?

So, you're question to me was, "So you're working there, but how do you know the shape of the land your're working on?" Is that about right?

Well, New Earth, I don't need to travel into outer space in a spaceship to answer that question. There is this other invention called an "aircraft". You may have heard of it?

I will be doing flights across Antarctica, from one side to the other, straight over the magnetic south pole. I'll be living on one of the scientific bases.

Find yourself a flat piece of paper, N ew Earth, scrunch it into a ball and write, "Earth" on it. On the bottom of your new earth ball is where you can find me.


You guys are so full of shit about time zones. Time zones exist because Heleocentric model of the rotating globe must be explained. The concept of time is not something people agree upon, its either real or not. They could not figure out how to lie about South or North Pole. They could not solve it. I don't wanna talk about this anymore please do not comment. But hey Sunset you are full of shit dude. You more full of shit then Rab at this point. First of all why you getting smart with me and asking me if I know what aircraft is? I have been on more flights then most people. You saying you will fly across Antarctica straight over South Pole, since there are no airports in Antarctica how? what exactly do you do? Why would anyone fly you across Antarctica. Its a no fly zone. You never going there,  you a troll my dude.

You can phone someone in another part of the world and ask them what time it is there. It will be different than where you are if they are any considerable distance east or west of you.

There are no commercial airlines operating in Antarctica, but the research stations all have landing strips and get their supplies by air. Tourists cannot fly over the pole, but researchers can and do.

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« Reply #48 on: October 21, 2018, 04:17:09 PM »
You guys are so full of shit about time zones. Time zones exist because Heleocentric Heliocentric model of the rotating globe must be explained.
Totally incorrect garbage!
Whether you believe it or not the sun rises and reaches its zenith at different times around the earth and it even the flat earth explains this, though incorrectly!

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The concept of time is not something people agree upon, its either real or not.

They could not figure out how to lie about South or North Pole.
No-one except idiots like you "lie about South or North Pole". Why lie? Both the North and South Pole are real - get used to it!

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They could not solve it.
Garbage! What's to solve?

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I don't wanna talk about this anymore please do not comment.
Tough! You spout your total garbage then run away like all cowards do!

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But hey Sunset you are full of shit dude. You more full of shit then Rab at this point. First of all why you getting smart with me and asking me if I know what aircraft is? I have been on more flights then most people. You saying you will fly across Antarctica straight over South Pole, since there are no airports in Antarctica how?
What a total ignoramus your are! Just Google "list of airstrips in Antarctica"! Look at this great list: List of airports in Antarctica


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what exactly do you do? Why would anyone fly you across Antarctica. Its a no fly zone. You never going there,  you a troll my dude.
Antarctica is not a no fly zone!
Now run away and peddle your garbage elsewhere!

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« Reply #49 on: October 21, 2018, 04:55:58 PM »
You guys are so full of shit about time zones. Time zones exist because Heleocentric model of the rotating globe must be explained. The concept of time is not something people agree upon, its either real or not. They could not figure out how to lie about South or North Pole.
Nonsense.  Time zones weren't invented until about the 19th century.  Before then, everyone used local time based on the sun.  Blame the railroads for time zones.
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/time-zones-history.html
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« Reply #50 on: October 22, 2018, 08:04:48 AM »
I'm very very sorry, New Earth. But my application is in to work in the Australian contingent on Antarctica as a Communications Officer. Excuse the pun, but it will be pretty cool.

Rab is right, there are airstrips. Not for tourists though. There are also a few volcanoes in Antarctica.

New Earth, I guess I was wrong about you and planes. How are you in helicopters?

It's not my fault the place has appealing work going. It's also not my fault the place disproves the most popular flat earth model. But I don't know why you're annoyed? Isn't your theory that earth is a ball in the 3d, but flat in the 4th dimension as per your visions?
For the overall shape of Earth to be flat, requires billions of people and billions of pieces of information about Earth to be wrong. Do the maths.

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« Reply #51 on: October 22, 2018, 11:12:04 PM »
Here is a motion gif where one frame is is taken every hour:

USA, Taken with DSCOVR EPIC.
             

Then there are the Himawari-8 Animations. Here is one:

Taken taken by the Japanese Himawari-8 satellite.
And then photos by USA and Russia:

USA, DSCOVR EPIC 187_1003703_africa
   

Russian Satellite Photo (around midday) - December 2015
   

Russian Zond 7 "Earth Rising"

I'm always baffled that you really think this is what you see at a certain altitude....
Are you really that bad at discerning reality from cgi/photoshop/artist rendering/jigsaw data ??

It's utter crap that for some unknown reason has convinced you & co that it is what earth looks like, althaugh even a ten year old can spot the ''cartoon'' quality from a distance.
He doesn't believe it, in my opinion. He's just arguing for the side of mass indoctrination.

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« Reply #52 on: October 22, 2018, 11:24:00 PM »
Didnt scept get banned for making insulting a goat?

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« Reply #53 on: October 22, 2018, 11:37:57 PM »
I'm not annoyed at all Sunset. Yes in 3D Earth is a globe matrix in 5D its infinite plane. It will always be this way no matter what Rab, Stash or others say. I called my senator and asked if I can go to Antarctica as civilian he said no. I'm a pretty important guy around these parts so if I cannot go you Sunset surely cannot go. You are not a pilot nor will you be traveling to Antarctica by a ship. You will be given a job there but you wont be going there, they are selling you snake oil. You will most likely end up on uncharted island close to Antarctica, Greenland, Northern Canada or Russia, thinking you are at the South Pole. Tell them no and work for Starbucks instead, at least you will know where you at LOL
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« Reply #54 on: October 23, 2018, 12:31:55 AM »
I'm not annoyed at all Sunset. Yes in 3D Earth is a globe matrix in 5D its infinite plane. It will always be this way no matter what Rab, Stash or others say. I called my senator and asked if I can go to Antarctica as civilian he said no. I'm a pretty important guy around these parts so if I cannot go you Sunset surely cannot go. You are not a pilot nor will you be traveling to Antarctica by a ship. You will be given a job there but you wont be going there, they are selling you snake oil. You will most likely end up on uncharted island close to Antarctica, Greenland, Northern Canada or Russia, thinking you are at the South Pole. Tell them no and work for Starbucks instead, at least you will know where you at LOL

I've read a lot of strange stuff around here, but this, whoa, pretty much bests all else.

Let me try and get this straight. You're an important person and you called your Senator and asked him if you can go to Antarctica? You called your Senator? And they, the actual senator, said, "No, I'm sorry New Earth, though you are very important around here, you may not go to Antarctica."

I don't even know where to go with this. There's such a fine line between clever and stupid.

Hey, if your delusions make you happy, who am I to challenge them.

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« Reply #55 on: October 23, 2018, 02:18:58 AM »
I'm not annoyed at all Sunset. Yes in 3D Earth is a globe matrix in 5D its infinite plane. It will always be this way no matter what Rab, Stash or others say. I called my senator and asked if I can go to Antarctica as civilian he said no.
Anybody can go to Antarctica and even the South Pole as a tourist. It costs money and obviously requires suitable preparation.
I've got no idea what you requested but there have been many adventurers  treking to the South Pole.
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Of the ample adventures to dream of in this world, there are very few which appeal to the spirit more than an opportunity to travel unencumbered in the Antarctic continent.

Of the ample adventures to dream of in this world, there are very few which appeal to the spirit more than an opportunity to travel unencumbered in the Antarctic continent.

This incredible journey to the southernmost point on earth involves a long and strenuous 730mile/1170km trek over 50-60 days.

An expedition of unspoiled beauty and isolation not often found in today’s world; this is a highlight trip for those with a healthy work ethic and a genuine sense of adventure!
Then there have been numerous organised expeditions crossing Antarctica coast-to-coast via the South Pole.
You might (or might not) read of some Antarctic expeditions: Re: Where did Amelia Earhart disappear?

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I'm a pretty important guy around these parts so if I cannot go you Sunset surely cannot go. You are not a pilot nor will you be traveling to Antarctica by a ship. You will be given a job there but you wont be going there, they are selling you snake oil.
Would you care to provide any evidence for your claims and your unsupported words are not evidence!
How do you know what Sunset is or is not doing or how he is travelling?
Though if he's going to the South Pole he's presumably flying and not walking or riding a bicycle as some have done.

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You will most likely end up on uncharted island close to Antarctica, Greenland, Northern Canada or Russia, thinking you are at the South Pole. Tell them no and work for Starbucks instead, at least you will know where you at LOL
New Earth it is very easy to verify that one is at the South Pole - look at what the sun does!

You are probably going to claim all these are faked but I'd believe all that in preference to any of your claims.

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« Reply #56 on: October 23, 2018, 08:51:28 AM »
... Tell them no and work for Starbucks instead, at least you will know where you at LOL

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!! Don't work for Starbucks. They'll tell you you're going to work at the corner coffee store, but they'll really transport you to their secret gulag run by lizard people where you'll have to mine coffee beans by digging through rock with your fingernails. You'll have no idea where you are because all the maps there are upside down.

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« Reply #57 on: October 23, 2018, 10:02:25 AM »
You are not a pilot nor will you be traveling to Antarctica by a ship. You will be given a job there but you wont be going there, they are selling you snake oil. You will most likely end up on uncharted island close to Antarctica

How are they going to find that uncharted island if it's uncharted?

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Greenland, Northern Canada or Russia, thinking you are at the South Pole.

That should be easy enough to tell.

Is the sun up all day or most of the day in December or January? If yes, you're in the southern hemisphere, so you're not in Greenland, Northern Canada, or Russia.

When you stand facing the sun, does it appear to move across the sky from your left to your right, or from your right to your left? If the latter, again, you're in the southern hemisphere, so you're not in Greenland, Northern Canada, or Russia.

Easy peasy.

If the sun is up all day at any time during your stay, and it's after September and before March, you know you're at higher latitude than the antarctic circle.

If you can measure the elevation angle of the sun above the horizon at its highest and lowest point any day it's above the horizon all day (or grazes the horizon, in which case lowest elevation = 0°), you can estimate your latitude. The difference between highest and lowest elevation angle is twice your angular distance from the pole, so

Latitude = 90° - (highest - lowest)/2.

Here's a "handy" way to estimate angles in the sky without instruments: https://oneminuteastronomer.com/860/measuring-sky/

There are other ways to do this with a single elevation angle measurement, but those require additional information. The elegance of the above technique is that it's self-contained.
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« Reply #58 on: October 23, 2018, 10:04:19 AM »
So they have a building at the South Pole Rab? How come google earth doesn't show it. See even they couldn't fake it. You mention multiple expeditions to south pole? Prove to me those expeditions actually occurred. It never happened.
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« Reply #59 on: October 23, 2018, 10:11:19 AM »
So they have a building at the South Pole Rab? How come google earth doesn't show it. See even they couldn't fake it. You mention multiple expeditions to south pole? Prove to me those expeditions actually occurred. It never happened.

Google Maps does show it. I just looked: