Is Antarctica a ring around the earth or an island continent?

Quote from: Stash on October 17, 2018, 01:22:24 PM

I'm going to go with Antarctica as an island continent. There is just too much evidence in support of it and absolutely zero evidence to support a mono-pole ring. FET would be better served by embracing a two-pole concept and working up some theories on how navigation, transport, celestial body movement would work. In the mean time, mono-pole/ice ring theory is represented by nothing in the observable world.

The problem is that a bi-polar model still doesn't address some problems, and really just pushes around problems.
Sure, you have a south pole and a south celestial pole, but now the direction to them is not 180 degrees apart. At the equator, where you can see both celestial poles, you would be able to see the poles appearing to get closer together or further apart as you move east/west.
It also has the issue of the pacific becoming a giant ring ocean. If you were to try and get from the southern US to China, the easiest route would be straight over Europe, even though plenty of ships (both sea and air) go via the pacific.
Likewise a trip from Sydney to Vancouver would go across Australia and Africa, instead of the observed route going over the pacific. So a bipolar map doesn't work either.

What they need to do is bend their map a little. Start with the north pole map and then bend it a bit to force the south pole into a point.

I agree. The bi-pole FE model is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. It's still untenable. The movement of the sun kind of kills it out of the gate. From what I've seen of the model, the sun would have to move in a figure 8 pattern to satisfy observed equinoxes and solstices. Even then, it would have to reverse course at certain cycles. Something, at least to my knowledge, has never been observed by humanity.

Yes, I am a globalist. Not so sure about 'angry', but that is certainly a debatable notion. And, based on the fact you responded in the way I expected, I will continue as if I will expect another response in much the same manner.

I'm going to go with Antarctica as an island continent. There is just too much evidence in support of it and absolutely zero evidence to support a mono-pole ring. FET would be better served by embracing a two-pole concept and working up some theories on how navigation, transport, celestial body movement would work. In the mean time, mono-pole/ice ring theory is represented by nothing in the observable world.

But what makes that bipolar completely untenable is aircraft flights and shipping routes across the Pacific Ocean as in these flights:
And it cannot be denied that there have been "circumnavigations" around the equator (impossible on that bipolar map) and pole to pole (impossible on the Ice-Wall map).

See the OP for some of the pole to pole circumnavigations.
Then the epic equatorial circumnavigation was certainly Mike Horn's solo and human-powered ‘Horizontal’ crossing of the globe following the Equator at Latitude zero:

“When I left, I thought I knew enough to go round the world this way. Now that I am back, I know that I don’t know enough to start again.”


Read the rest, with the hair raising photos in: Mike Horn for his solo and human-powered ‘Horizontal’ crossing of the globe following the Equator at Latitude zero.

No single flat-earth map can possibly accommodate all of these routes.

No single flat-earth map can possibly accommodate all of these routes.

Agreed. There are also these maniacs I've been following for a couple of years. The Volvo Ocean Race sailing guys and gals. These people know their great circle (globe) navigation extremely well. Would lose and/or die without it.

https://www.volvooceanrace.com/en/route.html

2017-2018 Route:

Though I ceased to participate in disskusiya but this subject became interesting. Really flat people of Earth have no present theory of a structure of our world. Though the theory the earth - a sphere and rather advanced - but it is also full of discrepancies and therefore wrong too. World absolutely another. I liked this debate. Space - what in general they are who knows it? I think nobody! Only God and angels...

Though I ceased to participate in disskusiya but this subject became interesting. Really flat people of Earth have no present theory of a structure of our world. Though the theory the earth - a sphere and rather advanced - but it is also full of discrepancies and therefore wrong too.

You say of the sphere that "it is also full of discrepancies and therefore wrong too" but what are all those "discrepancies"?

Are you sure that they are discrepancies and not simply observations on the Globe that you don't understand?

World absolutely another. I liked this debate. Space - what in general they are who knows it? I think nobody! Only God and angels...

But the USSR and Russia have launched many space missions even to the moon and to Venus. Don't you believe those?

Quote from: frenat on October 16, 2018, 04:52:21 PM

Quote from: wise on October 16, 2018, 02:12:15 PM

You know I don't take a look posts who split my posts. I think you do it for I don't reply you. No problem. I already don't want to read your rubbish posts. This made my job easier. Thanks.

No he does it because it is easier to reply to individual points. YOU are the only one that has a problem with it. Grow up.

Because it is so. Stop use clones. Give up racism. Grow up.

It is so that it is easier to reply to individual points. Never used clones. Not racist either. What other childish excuses do you have?   

Quote from: wise on October 17, 2018, 04:44:17 AM

Quote from: frenat on October 16, 2018, 04:52:21 PM

Quote from: wise on October 16, 2018, 02:12:15 PM

You know I don't take a look posts who split my posts. I think you do it for I don't reply you. No problem. I already don't want to read your rubbish posts. This made my job easier. Thanks.

No he does it because it is easier to reply to individual points. YOU are the only one that has a problem with it. Grow up.

Because it is so. Stop use clones. Give up racism. Grow up.

It is so that it is easier to reply to individual points. Never used clones. Not racist either. What other childish excuses do you have?   

Thankfully there is a limit to the number of childish excuses turd uses.