Will you deny history again?

True, science can't make up their minds about a lot of things, but the shape of the earth is not one of them!  And once again, you have shifted the topic away from the original thread.  I didnt ask about Sam Rowboat, or the Federal Reserve, or any of that.

True, science can't make up their minds about a lot of things, but the shape of the earth is not one of them!  And once again, you have shifted the topic away from the original thread.  I didnt ask about Sam Rowboat, or the Federal Reserve, or any of that.

I've already addressed that. It's either a hoax or sincere misunderstanding about the south pole.

If it's a hoax it's because of the conspiracy. If it's a sincere misunderstanding, it's an understandably easy mistake to make since the common man's adventure to the south pole would end at magnetic south. He would climb atop the ice wall, reach magnetic south and declare his journey a success. The man then turns 180 degrees around and leaves the way he came.

A true expedition would reach magnetic south and continue into the unknown abyss.

If it's a hoax it's because of the conspiracy. If it's a sincere misunderstanding, it's an understandably easy mistake to make since the common man's adventure to the south pole would end at magnetic south. He would climb atop the ice wall, reach magnetic south and declare his journey a success. The man then turns 180 degrees around and leaves the way he came.

A true expedition would reach magnetic south and continue into the unknown abyss.

You have just proven 2 things.  1. You cant/dont read, 2. You dont know what you are talking about.  In my original post i wrote that Edmund Hillary did a trans-continental trek.  That means ACROSS the continent, with no mention of an "ice wall" and he didnt fall into "the abyss". And these were not "common men"! You and I are common men.  They are more men than you will ever be.

He would climb atop the ice wall, reach magnetic south and declare his journey a success. The man then turns 180 degrees around and leaves the way he came.

A true expedition would reach magnetic south and continue into the unknown abyss.

Wait a second. So you're saying that he climbed the icewall, then turned around? Did he ever mention a gaping abyss of nothing?

Wait another second.  If there is an "ice wall" surrounding the disk shaped earth, then there will be no magnetic south! You would just come to a wall, and then an abyss.  How do you even have south? South means down, you cant go down on a disk! you can only go side to side, east and west.  What say you to that?

without south how are you supposed to determine east and west dont say just north.. what about southwest and south east and south south west and so on

exactly

Hit them with real logic and no one answers, hmm. strange.

Wait another second.  If there is an "ice wall" surrounding the disk shaped earth, then there will be no magnetic south! You would just come to a wall, and then an abyss.  How do you even have south? South means down, you cant go down on a disk! you can only go side to side, east and west.  What say you to that?

And once again, you have shifted the topic away from the original thread. I didnt ask about Sam Rowboat, or the Federal Reserve, or any of that.

Nor did you ask about compass directions.

Hit them with real logic and no one answers, hmm. strange.

Go up to the FAQ and search for questions about points on a compass and you'll see there are in fact two explanations. I'm sure you'll be able to find them.

As for the original questions:

How do you explain the FACT that the norwegian polar explorer Roald Amundsen raced American Robert Scott to the south pole in 1911, beating him by 33 days, and neither of them or their party ever saw the supposed ice wall?

They were part of a Conspiracy propaganda campaign.

Do you deny this?

Deny that they are in the history books? No.

Of course anybody that calls history FACT is a bit clueless.

And what about Sir Edmund Hillary and Vivian Fuchs completing the first overland trans-continental (that means all the way across) expedition of antarctica in 1958? No mention of an ice wall by them either. Do you openly deny documented history?

Nope. They have documented history. It's wrong. It was yet another propaganda campaign by the conspiracy, both parties were in on it.

OH FOR THE LOVE!!!! How is that an answer!? You have GOT to be joking me! Can you please, just for once, let go of the ridiculous conspiracy?? It is proven fact they went.

It is an answer, it's not our fault you can't see the truth.

Can you please, just for once, let go of the ridiculous notion of a spherical earth?? I suppose that would be too much for somebody who believes that history is a proven fact.

Robert Scott and his team DIED trying to make the return trip, and you want to make fun of them like that? Thats pretty low down.

You brought him up, not us - don't go pointing the finger at us for your low down acts.

But seeing as you did bring them up and have let us know that they died allow me to point out the obvious: they didn't die, they went into hiding.[/b]

In all of you incoherent rambling, did you not read the part about me not wanting to hear anything about the "conspiracy"??  I bring up all these facts about polar explorers, and all you can say is "no, its the conspiracy".  Thats just bad debating for starters.  And to put it nicely its being ignorant of history.  Do you even know who those people were?

Where did everybody go? I guess a little truth never stood in the way of a good government conspiracy.

Have you been to antarctica? Have you been in space? I have. Well, not antarctica, because it's an icewall, but my name's Buzz Aldrin, and I've been to the moon, which is also flat.

I bring up all these facts about polar explorers, and all you can say is "no, its the conspiracy".  Thats just bad debating for starters.  And to put it nicely its being ignorant of history.  Do you even know who those people were?

The reason is because they're not necessarily "facts" just because you were taught so / believe so / think so.

FE, Im actually a secret government agent sent here to spread rumors and lies.  Couldnt you tell by my name?

Exactly. "Logic" is also one of those tricky words you've been taught to use during your life, but in the real world it soon goes out the window. Do you think I knew I was gonna be an astronaut one day? Of course not. U can do the impossible.

The men in white coats will be there shortly to give you your medicine, Buzz.

Stop being so fucking insensitive. U got to learn 2 respek ur elders, yungin.

Hey numbnuts, to most FE'ers on here, space travel is impossible.  You will melt, or you'll hit the ceiling, or you go meet the flying spaghetti monster, or its part of the conspiracy.  Pick someone else to be, or go jump off a cliff.  Either one is fine.

U dont believe in the FE theory, so why the hell r u here? This is a place 4 FE'ers not disrespectful duches like yourself.

-Buzz

Hey i just pointed out the B.S. that YOUR people come up with for why space travel is impossible.  And what does this possibly have to do with my original post??

Now now, you two, restrain yourselves.  Remember, civility!

Anyway, Agent, debating any specific point will most likely only lead to frustraton.  As the Conspiracy is Omniscient, anything can be attributed to it.  Thus, the obvious answer is that the expedition was part of the Conspiracy, or tricked by them.

Obviously.

In all of you incoherent rambling, did you not read the part about me not wanting to hear anything about the "conspiracy"??  I bring up all these facts about polar explorers, and all you can say is "no, its the conspiracy".  Thats just bad debating for starters.  And to put it nicely its being ignorant of history.  Do you even know who those people were?

I don't know how many times I'm going to have to repeat myself but it was just a propagranda campaign by the Conspiracy.

You wanted an answer I gave you one. It's not my fault you can't accept it. If you keep asking the same questions you'll keep getting the same answers.

And it's not our fault that every time we ask you something about said conspiracy, you ramble on about something else, and ignore the fact that you were even asked a serious question which pertains to your belief.

Yet when someone who is an FE'er asks us RE'er's to explain something like gravity, we respond to the question as best to our knowledge, and even go a step farther and provide some sources to back our claims up.

:roll:

You wanted an answer I gave you one. It's not my fault you can't accept it. If you keep asking the same questions you'll keep getting the same answers.

You FE'er's should take your own advice. Practice what you preach, my mother always taught me. :roll:

And it's not our fault that every time we ask you something about said conspiracy, you ramble on about something else, and ignore the fact that you were even asked a serious question which pertains to your belief.

I'll answer any questions you have about the conspiracy. I just always remind you that we can only speculate as we have no proof. Therefore our speculations may be wrong and subject to change.

Yet when someone who is an FE'er asks us RE'er's to explain something like gravity, we respond to the question as best to our knowledge, and even go a step farther and provide some sources to back our claims up.

:roll:

Who's talking about gravity. Besides, when we mention gravity it's just to point out the fact that the round earth has holes in it also.

You FE'er's should take your own advice. Practice what you preach, my mother always taught me. :roll:

 :lol: Your mum taught me something else...

What do you think I'm preaching?

I'll answer any questions you have about the conspiracy. I just always remind you that we can only speculate as we have no proof. Therefore our speculations may be wrong and subject to change.

So what it boils down to is you pull something out of your ass, and expect us to believe its part of the all powerful, all knowing, all feeling conspiracy.  You're basically admitting what you say can't be taken seriously.[/quote]

Agent is right, that is basically what you just said. :?

So tell me. How do you speculate that there is even a conspiracy at all if they are so good at covering it all up? Shouldn't that mean that you wouldn't have any knowledge about any of this at all, and thusly we wouldn't be having this debate?

Stop making shit up, I don't like liars.

And cite your conspiracy too. I'd like to see where the initial idea came from.

So what it boils down to is you pull something out of your ass, and expect us to believe its part of the all powerful, all knowing, all feeling conspiracy.  You're basically admitting what you say can't be taken seriously.

I'm starting to wonder if you're not part of the conspiracy yourself there, monger.

What I'm saying is that it was part of conspiracy propaganda.

It's your choice whether you believe it or not.

Agent is right, that is basically what you just said. :?

So tell me. How do you speculate that there is even a conspiracy at all if they are so good at covering it all up? Shouldn't that mean that you wouldn't have any knowledge about any of this at all, and thusly we wouldn't be having this debate?

Stop making shit up, I don't like liars.

And cite your conspiracy too. I'd like to see where the initial idea came from.

Hara, I'm not going to bother arguing with you any more. It's a waste of time.

The really funny thing is you think you're smarter than you actually are.

I'm starting to wonder if you're not part of the conspiracy yourself there, monger.

What I'm saying is that it was part of conspiracy propaganda.

It's your choice whether you believe it or not.

How do you know im not part of the glorious conspiracy?  You have no proof, just like there is not one single shred of evidence to back up your notion that Hillary, Amundsen, and Scott were part of the conspiracy.  You really are a bad debater, because you take the easiest way out when presented with some truth, "its the conspiracy"

How do you know im not part of the glorious conspiracy?  You have no proof, just like there is not one single shred of evidence to back up your notion that Hillary, Amundsen, and Scott were part of the conspiracy.

That's very true.

I think you are part of the Conspiracy. I'll try and get somebody to add that into the FAQ so everybody's aware of it.

You really are a bad debater, because you take the easiest way out when presented with some truth, "its the conspiracy"

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Oh no!!! Not a bad debater!!! How ever will I live?

I don't care if I'm a bad debater, the fact remains they were part of the conspiracy and the earth is flat.