Will you deny history again?

How do you explain the FACT that the norwegian polar explorer Roald Amundsen raced American Robert Scott to the south pole in 1911, beating him by 33 days, and neither of them or their party ever saw the supposed ice wall?  Do you deny this?  And what about Sir Edmund Hillary and Vivian Fuchs completing the first overland trans-continental (that means all the way across) expedition of antarctica in 1958? No mention of an ice wall by them either.  Do you openly deny documented history?

I know that the FE'ers on here hold on to the "conspiracy" for dear life, but please, for once, don't tell me they were in on it or they were tricked.

The government allowed them to go only where they (the gov't) wanted them to go.

OH FOR THE LOVE!!!! How is that an answer!?  You have GOT to be joking me!  Can you please, just for once, let go of the ridiculous conspiracy??  It is proven fact they went.  Robert Scott and his team DIED trying to make the return trip, and you want to make fun of them like that?  Thats pretty low down.

Remember, the government has had decades and unlimited funds to slowly build up a false background and history to verify their claims. When I say "the government" I'm not necessarily referring to the federal government, but the group of people who make the money. The very same people who operate the Federal Reserve, a privately owned corporation with the authority to print and lend money from thin air. The owners of the Federal Reserve are the real puppet masters. Congress gave the Federal Reserve this authority in 1914, for reasons unknown.

For proof that a private corporation has a license to print money use Google to verify that the Federal Reserve is neither government owned or operated. It's a strictly private institution with multinational shareholders.

Yeah, im not an idiot Tom.  You actually said something right, for once. That could actually hold water as a REAL conspiracy.  But what does that have to do with Amundsen and Scott?? Amundsen was from Norway, and he did it on his own accord.  The first part of your claim is so ludicrous that its not even worth debating.

The government allowed them to go only where they (the gov't) wanted them to go.

Proof of this?

The very same people who operate the Federal Reserve, a privately owned corporation with the authority to print and lend money from thin air. The owners of the Federal Reserve are the real puppet masters. Congress gave the Federal Reserve this authority in 1914, for reasons unknown.

Scott wasn't American. So why has the Federal Reserve got anything to do with this?

True, Scott was British. Sir Edmund Hillary was from New Zealand.  Sorry Tom, once again you make no sense.

There is more than one government, ffs!

This is a pretty lousy attempt at revisionist history, come on FE'ers, you can do better!

The shareholders of the National Reserve are mutinational, meaning they hail from a number of countries around the world. A shareholder from Britain holds a sizable share. These shareholders probably hold influence over other countries as well. Since the shareholders are multinational, you can see how wide this sphere of power could be.

Congress has never audited the National Reserve, its financial records are entirely unknown. Government spending is all borrowed from the National Reserve. If a private corporation like the National Reserve has the power to lend the United States of America its own money, and every other country money, you can see how vastly powerful this entity is. Every cent in your bank account came from the National Reserve at one point, irrevocably created out of thin air.

Faking the roundness of the earth would be trivial for a shadow organization of unlimited wealth, with the power to influence entire nations.

An organisation that you have no proof exists at all.

You guys are like little kids that keep wandering off.  I dont care about the damned federal reserve!  I asked about Robert Scott, Sir Edmund Hillary and Roald Amundsen.  All polar explorers who never ONCE saw an "ice wall"

An organisation that you have no proof exists at all.

The Federal Reserve exists, and it is indeed a private corporation owned by private individuals. This means that a group of people like you and I, unconnected to the United States Government, has the power and authority to print money.

This group definitely exists.

You guys are like little kids that keep wandering off.  I dont care about the damned federal reserve!  I asked about Robert Scott, Sir Edmund Hillary and Roald Amundsen.  All polar explorers who never ONCE saw an "ice wall"

Who cares, let's go ride bikes!

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An organisation that you have no proof exists at all.

The Federal Reserve exists, and it is indeed a private corporation owned by private individuals. This means that a group of people like you and I, unconnected to the United States Government, has the power and authority to print money.

They definitely exist.

Sorry, I meant an organisation which would have power to influence countries. I forgot you claimed that the Federal Reserve could do this. My mistake. It does exist, but it certainly does not have limitless funds.

You guys are like little kids that keep wandering off.  I dont care about the damned federal reserve!  I asked about Robert Scott, Sir Edmund Hillary and Roald Amundsen.  All polar explorers who never ONCE saw an "ice wall"

FE does not have verifiable information for Robert Scott, Edmund Hillary, or Roald Amundsen. It's entirely likely these stories to the south pole were completely fabricated and these people never even existed. It's also possible that upon preparation these people were given a map to nowhere, apparently leading to the south pole. FE considers such stories about the south pole to be either an elaborate hoax or sincere misunderstanding.

I can say that it's quite a convenience they're all dead though, unable to give a personal statement of having been to the south pole.

I can say that it's quite a convenience they're all dead though, unable to give a personal statement of having been to the south pole.

Many people who are alive have been to the South Pole. And I don't find it a convenience. Considering they tried to get to the pole in the early 1900s.

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I can say that it's quite a convenience they're all dead though, unable to give a personal statement of having been to the south pole.

Many people who are alive have been to the South Pole. And I don't find it a convenience. Considering they tried to get to the pole in the early 1900s.

The modern Flat Earth Society has existed since the 1800's, when Samuel Birley Rowbotham demonstrated the flatness of the earth through various scientific experiments and proofs. Since then his proofs and conjectures have stood the test of time and are still accurate today.

No one has been to the South Pole in Antarctica because Antarctica as a continent does not exist.

The Flat Earth Society has existed since the 1800's, when Samuel Birley Rowbotham demonstrated the flatness of the earth through various scientific proofs. Since then his proofs and conjectures have stood the test of time and are still accurate today.

Proof of this?

Proof of this?

Samuel Birley Rowbotham wrote a book about the flat earth called "Earth Not a Globe." It's available from Amazon.com.

You can also read it online at: http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/index.htm

I cannot believe that you Fe believers can never answer a valid question without jumping to the conspiracy theory. Thats just bad debating.

FE does not have verifiable information for Robert Scott, Edmund Hillary, or Roald Amundsen. It's entirely likely these stories to the south pole were completely fabricated and these people never even existed. It's also possible that upon preparation these people were given a map to nowhere, apparently leading to the south pole. FE considers such stories about the south pole to be either an elaborate hoax or sincere misunderstanding.

Why dont you tell the family members and descendants of those three men that they never existed.  We have pictures, written accounts, Hillary was knighted by the Queen for God's sake, Amundsen wrote a book about all his explorations.  All this was made up?  Did Tenzig Norgay go up everest with an alien? or a robot? or was it 1950's virtual reality?

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Proof of this?

Samuel Birley Rowbotham wrote a book about the flat earth called "Earth Not a Globe." It's available from Amazon.com.

You can also read it online at: http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/index.htm

How does this prove they are valid?

In one hundred and fifty years of advancement not one person has provided a rebuttle or alternative explanation to his scientifically sound experiments.

In one hundred and fifty years of advancement not one person has provided a rebuttle or alternative explanation to his scientifically sound experiments.

They have. Pretty much every other scientist has said otherwise. So there is an alternative explanation.  :roll:

They have. Pretty much every other scientist has said otherwise. So there is an alternative explanation.

Not one person has proven Samuel Birley Rowbotham a hoaxer or charlatan. To disprove his experiments, one simply needs to repeat his experiments verbatim and publish their results.

In one hundred and fifty years of advancement not one person has provided a rebuttle or alternative explanation to his scientifically sound experiments.

Do you know why?  Because there is no need to!!  Every bit of scientific FACT about the earth is a "rebuttal" to his ramblings.

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They have. Pretty much every other scientist has said otherwise. So there is an alternative explanation.

Not one scientist has shown Samuel Birley Rowbotham a hoaxer. To disprove his experiments, one simply needs to repeat his experiments verbatim and publish their results.

But he didn't disprove any of the RE scientists. Who have more knowledge than he will have done. No one has bothered to disprove him, because it would be a momumental waste of time and public money.

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In one hundred and fifty years of advancement not one person has provided a rebuttle or alternative explanation to his scientifically sound experiments.

Do you know why?  Because there is no need to!!  Every bit of scientific FACT about the earth is a "rebuttal" to his ramblings.

You speak of this scientific fact like it is God's gospel, unchangeable and undeniable. Perhaps one day you will open your eyes and realize your error of following media hype like a dog to the whistle.

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In one hundred and fifty years of advancement not one person has provided a rebuttle or alternative explanation to his scientifically sound experiments.

Do you know why?  Because there is no need to!!  Every bit of scientific FACT about the earth is a "rebuttal" to his ramblings.

You speak of this scientific fact like it is God's gospel, unchangeable and undeniable. Perhaps one day you will open your eyes and realize your error of following media hype like a dog to the whistle.

I speak of fact like it is true. Which is the definition of a fact.

And second of all, you talk of FE like it is God's gospel; because you think it is true without evidence.