A flat earther with a telescope

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Re: A flat earther with a telescope
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2018, 03:12:52 PM »
I dare you to show your works with your telescope.
Let me know your youtube link.
I'm prepared to audit your videos. 8)  :o

I dare you to show any work you have done at all that concludes as evidence of Flat Earth.  Sounds to me like you are just a little sheep following a flock of dodo birds.

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Re: A flat earther with a telescope
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2018, 03:14:34 PM »
Yeah I see what your saying about refraction, and it seems like it could be a major unpredictable variable. But what is plain to see to me is that the island looks like its floating because the water is reflecting the sky... that's the only type of mirage I really understand or have ever seen, I'll have to look into that.
I can't explain every so-called occurrence of "seeing further that we should" but looming, mirages and "Fata Morgana" are very real.
Looming is not that uncommon over water. Mirages are common over hot sandy deserts (and hot roads) but true Fata Morgana are rare.
This might be interesting:

🇮🇹 Fata Morgana Mirage Effect - was originally in Italian.
The big problem is that over water is the obvious place to observe "curvature" but is also a place where atypical temperature gradients are common.
And worse are ice-covered lakes where the ice is commonly colder than the air.

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I think a bit of trig should dictate the angle to the top of the visible peak (on flat model), but measuring the angles would be difficult (quite).
Yes and often those angles are very small, only tenths of a degree. 1000 ft over 50 miles sounds a lot but is only 0.2°.

Re: A flat earther with a telescope
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2018, 03:17:22 PM »
I sent an entry level telescope to my buddy who is struggling with this conspiracy, but he hasn’t even taken it out of the box after nearly a month. I guess that pretty much sums up the position of flat earthers. It’s not for a lack of time either. If he would just watch one less 2h YouTube video per day...

Tell him to open the box , take out the telescope , take it with him , take it with him on a trip or on a cruise , and do one or both of tbe following. :
(1) Have him go on a cruise on a ship or go down to the shore and watch ships disappear as they go over and beyond the horizon.
(2) Also tell him to watch the land disappear as the ship on which he is on sails out to sea , over and beyond the horizon.

If he can't "Restore them (the ship or the land) to full view with a telescope" I think you had better ask him to return it you so you can take it back and get your money back for an obviously defective telescope.

After all , Samuel Birley Rowbotham said you should be able to do this ! And he ought to know ?

Hasn't it been demonstrated numerous times that the prescribed curvature isn't there? That you can see too far? I'm pretty sure i've seen this myself.

No.  It hasn't.  The history Discovery channel did an experiment with lasers, a boat and a helicopter and determined that the EXACT 'prescribed' curvature is observed. 

http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Advanced+Earth+Curvature+Calculator
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