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Problems about childish moderation team
« on: August 19, 2018, 10:13:19 PM »
This is unacceptable for a serious forum like this.

Your moderation team is changing our posts and polls whatever they want. They did it earlier too. These are like a bunch of teenager bastards. If not, are you specifically giving work them because of you are not tolerant of criticism?

There is more than enough moderators here. Demode who constantly change my posts, that I'm sure you know who is. If you do not this, yu are the most hypocrite people ever seen.
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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2018, 07:53:34 AM »
Was the poll in any forum that wasn't Angry Ranting or Complete Nonsense.
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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2018, 11:32:26 AM »
Do you have an example?
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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2018, 11:36:23 AM »
Do you have an example?

Surely. This one:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=77359.0

Please Tell us who has changed the poll as last?
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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2018, 02:18:33 PM »
Do you have an example?

Surely. This one:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=77359.0

Please Tell us who has changed the poll as last?

Ah yes, a topic that is in Angry Ranting.  The level of seriousness that should be taken for changing the poll should be no more than the seriousness taken for threads in Angry Ranting
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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2018, 08:10:40 PM »
Crouton will get to the bottom of this important matter shortly.  God Speed, Crouton. 

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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2018, 10:43:09 PM »
As I expected, no answer, no solve. Someone is doing it but nobody aware who is doing it. So the number of moderation is more than can be controlled. It should be reduced.
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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2018, 05:14:10 AM »

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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2018, 08:25:55 AM »
Do you have an example?

Surely. This one:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=77359.0
That was in Angry Ranting so it doesn't count, next please.

Where is the rule about "moderators can do every type of bastardy till they want". Show that rule please.
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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2018, 09:42:15 AM »
Do you have an example?

Surely. This one:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=77359.0
That was in Angry Ranting so it doesn't count, next please.

Where is the rule about "moderators can do every type of bastardy till they want". Show that rule please.


You should read the forum rules.  Notate the part in bold red.

Angry Ranting
- For posting angry rants, e.g. "WHY THE HELL DO ****ING WASPS EVEN EXIST CHRIST", or "BLAH BLAH BLAH I'M WILMORE AND I DON'T WANT TO BE TOO RAWLSIAN BLAH BLAH BLAH".


The Boards of Antichtone are the least-moderated boards on the forum. The rules on Racism/Hate Speech, Explicit Content, Multiple Accounts and Advertising still apply, but all the other rules are basically not enforced, other than rules that affect the whole site, such as abuse of the report feature or the use of profanity in thread titles. Profanity of any degree is otherwise permitted.


It's possible that at some point someone may go too far without breaking the rules as they are written, and we may have to step in to keep the board fun (e.g. someone mass-spamming loads and loads of topics for days on end). Aside from extreme or unusual cases like that though, most rules will not be enforced in the Boards of Antichtone. This also means these boards are not for the thin-skinned; if someone's giving you a hard-time in there, don't expect the mods to do anything about it. If you can't take it, just don't go in there.
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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2018, 12:42:55 PM »
Do you have an example?

Surely. This one:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=77359.0
That was in Angry Ranting so it doesn't count, next please.

Where is the rule about "moderators can do every type of bastardy till they want". Show that rule please.


You should read the forum rules.  Notate the part in bold red.

Angry Ranting
- For posting angry rants, e.g. "WHY THE HELL DO ****ING WASPS EVEN EXIST CHRIST", or "BLAH BLAH BLAH I'M WILMORE AND I DON'T WANT TO BE TOO RAWLSIAN BLAH BLAH BLAH".


The Boards of Antichtone are the least-moderated boards on the forum. The rules on Racism/Hate Speech, Explicit Content, Multiple Accounts and Advertising still apply, but all the other rules are basically not enforced, other than rules that affect the whole site, such as abuse of the report feature or the use of profanity in thread titles. Profanity of any degree is otherwise permitted.


It's possible that at some point someone may go too far without breaking the rules as they are written, and we may have to step in to keep the board fun (e.g. someone mass-spamming loads and loads of topics for days on end). Aside from extreme or unusual cases like that though, most rules will not be enforced in the Boards of Antichtone. This also means these boards are not for the thin-skinned; if someone's giving you a hard-time in there, don't expect the mods to do anything about it. If you can't take it, just don't go in there.

There is nothing about permission to mods to change the polls in AR. Now log out your fake account, login and answer this.
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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2018, 04:40:28 PM »
Do you have an example?

Surely. This one:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=77359.0
That was in Angry Ranting so it doesn't count, next please.

Where is the rule about "moderators can do every type of bastardy till they want". Show that rule please.


You should read the forum rules.  Notate the part in bold red.

Angry Ranting
- For posting angry rants, e.g. "WHY THE HELL DO ****ING WASPS EVEN EXIST CHRIST", or "BLAH BLAH BLAH I'M WILMORE AND I DON'T WANT TO BE TOO RAWLSIAN BLAH BLAH BLAH".


The Boards of Antichtone are the least-moderated boards on the forum. The rules on Racism/Hate Speech, Explicit Content, Multiple Accounts and Advertising still apply, but all the other rules are basically not enforced, other than rules that affect the whole site, such as abuse of the report feature or the use of profanity in thread titles. Profanity of any degree is otherwise permitted.


It's possible that at some point someone may go too far without breaking the rules as they are written, and we may have to step in to keep the board fun (e.g. someone mass-spamming loads and loads of topics for days on end). Aside from extreme or unusual cases like that though, most rules will not be enforced in the Boards of Antichtone. This also means these boards are not for the thin-skinned; if someone's giving you a hard-time in there, don't expect the mods to do anything about it. If you can't take it, just don't go in there.

There is nothing about permission to mods to change the polls in AR. Now log out your fake account, login and answer this.

Show me in the rules where it says mods can't do this?
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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2018, 12:24:22 AM »
Do you have an example?

Surely. This one:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=77359.0
That was in Angry Ranting so it doesn't count, next please.

Where is the rule about "moderators can do every type of bastardy till they want". Show that rule please.


You should read the forum rules.  Notate the part in bold red.

Angry Ranting
- For posting angry rants, e.g. "WHY THE HELL DO ****ING WASPS EVEN EXIST CHRIST", or "BLAH BLAH BLAH I'M WILMORE AND I DON'T WANT TO BE TOO RAWLSIAN BLAH BLAH BLAH".


The Boards of Antichtone are the least-moderated boards on the forum. The rules on Racism/Hate Speech, Explicit Content, Multiple Accounts and Advertising still apply, but all the other rules are basically not enforced, other than rules that affect the whole site, such as abuse of the report feature or the use of profanity in thread titles. Profanity of any degree is otherwise permitted.


It's possible that at some point someone may go too far without breaking the rules as they are written, and we may have to step in to keep the board fun (e.g. someone mass-spamming loads and loads of topics for days on end). Aside from extreme or unusual cases like that though, most rules will not be enforced in the Boards of Antichtone. This also means these boards are not for the thin-skinned; if someone's giving you a hard-time in there, don't expect the mods to do anything about it. If you can't take it, just don't go in there.

There is nothing about permission to mods to change the polls in AR. Now log out your fake account, login and answer this.

Show me in the rules where it says mods can't do this?

There is no rule has been needed for this. This is naturally has to be. If there is no rule, natural rules and legal laws have been valid. imitate someone else's identity, to claim that someone else said something that actually has not said, to mislead others by intentionally changing something someone says; are both immorality and legally crimes.
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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2018, 12:36:34 PM »
Show me in the rules where it says mods can't do this?

Yeah, that is an absolutely ridiculous position to take (assuming you aren't just trolling wise).

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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2018, 01:05:09 PM »
Show me in the rules where it says mods can't do this?

Yeah, that is an absolutely ridiculous position to take (assuming you aren't just trolling wise).

That's not a bad assumption, but no it isn't ridiculous.  He is complaining it is against the rules.  The rules for Angry Ranting are pretty clear.  So unless it is expressly written as such, it's not to be taken seriously and is free game.
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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2018, 08:35:08 AM »
Another example:

They have banned me during one day because of their simple hate.

DNS (Old DNO) has opened a topic in lounge and critised the moderation that changed my polls. Boydster has moved it to angray ranting.

Then I opened a topic in lounge to critises boydster's this act was wrong. This time, clitorious has moved it to angry ranting.

After I opened a new topic, but this time critising the action of clitorious, then ther mother has decided to ban me during a full day with the reason of "spamming the lounge". It was not spam, clearly. The first one was about boydster but the second one was about clitorion.

As how they have enforced to rules for move topics those they don't like to angry ranting, with similar way they have banned me with enforcing the rules again.

Maybe this post is "spamming the Suggestions & Concerns" subforum, how about that?

It is clear that new moderaton team is a brutal, racist and vengeful a bunch of neonazis. God damn the management team. But God saves us from these evilness.

The real reason of your ban is I'm revealing your real face of how you are acting like a secret satanic sect. You are believing JD like a devils statue. His name, your avatars, your names are completely a game and creates the baphomet the evil statue. One of your's horn, other of your's animal face, with John Davis'es name by manipulating the name of John the baptist to John the baphomet by using Davis (Devils) as a surname, clearly creating a devil statue.

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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2018, 01:15:45 PM »
DNS (Old DNO) has opened a topic in lounge and critised the moderation that changed my polls. Boydster has moved it to angray ranting.

Then I opened a topic in lounge to critises boydster's this act was wrong. This time, clitorious has moved it to angry ranting.

After I opened a new topic, but this time critising the action of clitorious, then ther mother has decided to ban me during a full day with the reason of "spamming the lounge". It was not spam, clearly. The first one was about boydster but the second one was about clitorion.

As how they have enforced to rules for move topics those they don't like to angry ranting, with similar way they have banned me with enforcing the rules again.

Criticizing moderation belongs in S&C if it is constructive criticism. If it's just complaining, cursing, and ranting, there a board for that too - it's called Angry Ranting. Those threads were moved because they belonged in the board they were moved to.

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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2018, 02:06:58 PM »
DNS (Old DNO) has opened a topic in lounge and critised the moderation that changed my polls. Boydster has moved it to angray ranting.

Then I opened a topic in lounge to critises boydster's this act was wrong. This time, clitorious has moved it to angry ranting.

After I opened a new topic, but this time critising the action of clitorious, then ther mother has decided to ban me during a full day with the reason of "spamming the lounge". It was not spam, clearly. The first one was about boydster but the second one was about clitorion.

As how they have enforced to rules for move topics those they don't like to angry ranting, with similar way they have banned me with enforcing the rules again.

Criticizing moderation belongs in S&C if it is constructive criticism. If it's just complaining, cursing, and ranting, there a board for that too - it's called Angry Ranting. Those threads were moved because they belonged in the board they were moved to.

Woohoo. After you have been a moderator, learned and started to teach the rules to us all, true? When you were an ordinary member, like me, which one us knew the rules more, you or me? Surely, you are, because you have been a mod here. Caused by you were knowing tue rules better or I don't know english well, in other say "because of racism?". Anyway.

This is what lounge is:

A place where users can introduce themselves or talk about anything that doesn't fit in the other boards. Light chat and socialising are encouraged!

Critism anybody doesn't fit with anywhere. There is no anger about saying "you were moved the topic to wrong place" is a place of "lounge" is completely, 100% fitted.

Who decide which topic contains "anger" or "this one is constructive criticism" or "disconstructive criticism"? You, the "anger team" decide it.

Not the topic but you could move to the angry ranting. Because not topic, but your team is the only angry one here. You, croutolius and your mom belongs to angry ranting, even completely nonsence. Because everything related you are nothing but completely nonsence.
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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2018, 02:23:06 PM »
I'm not sure why this is controversial. It's written in the forum rules.

10. Disputing Moderation and Memberating
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2018, 11:58:26 PM »
I'm not sure why this is controversial. It's written in the forum rules.

10. Disputing Moderation and Memberating
Do not attempt to dispute (or interfere with) moderation anywhere other than Suggestions & Concerns. Any concerns or problems you have with moderation should be taken there. Moderating other members (aka 'memberating') is also forbidden.

Under these circumstances; where had to be our topics were critising you stay in? If you don't take my wording that everytime I have my own writing technic as a harrasment (it is stupidity to take it so), so these topics are belongs to this subforum in fact. DNS's topic were already contained nothing in the name of aggression. We both have putted forward an objective critism.

If you really wanted to move them, here is better instead of AR.

So why did we open this topic in lounge, instead of here?

I don't know why did DNS open in there, but I opened at lounge because you have mistakenly moved it from there.  when you discuss something, you can not change the position of the topic because of the subject has changed. for example you can not move this topic to the debate subforum now depends on you started discussing with me here contrary to the structure of this sub forum. this is nonsense, this is stupidity.

Instead of accepting these criticisms and correcting your mistakes, in the name of whitewashing the issue, you have moved it to AR for hiding the public. Your only aim was hiding the issue from the public when move them to A&R.

But I put forwarded that we had already a chance to open these topic contains critism about your childish behaviour here, we did it in lounge militate in favor of you. On the contrary of our good intention, you have moved the to A&R and chosed to ban me by support of your mother admin.

You do not know enough about the rules, you are evil-disposed, and you are acting childish. But this is not a problem because your masters are already the evil ones. So they see no problem here.

I think I should make a working about your evil masters. Only this equalizes your nazism here.
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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2018, 12:16:18 AM »
If AR was useful, your mistake has been considered your trying to do it for forum discipline. But it is not. Because you have changed my poll in AR. (someone of you, this is still the main problem)

In one hand you are saying (as moderation team) members are free to speech their angry things in AR. On the other hand, you are changing our post to prevent our speech. This is like to saying someone "you are free to yelling this area howeever you want", then when somepne start to yelling you are closing his mouth to prevent his yelling.

You are preventing people from using it in accordance with AR principles. on the other hand, moving topics to an unfunctional area causes them to disappear.

You can not do that, it's pointless, it's childish. you can think of it but this childish moderation are not belonging to a moderation team claims themselves a serious occurrence.

You have to endure criticism. If you don't like the critisms, then you should stay away from the actions that will cause others critise you.

Look how a perfect suggestion. But you may take it as an aggression with your hated and childish mind. You're free to do it. but this will make everything meaningless.
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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2018, 12:40:57 AM »
I just wanted to say thst I, DNS, am the old user324.
The old DNO has become pezevxhdykdhk.


Also, the whole moderation should only be allowed to post in angry ranting.
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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2018, 01:37:32 AM »
I just wanted to say thst I, DNS, am the old user324.
The old DNO has become pezevxhdykdhk.


Also, the whole moderation should only be allowed to post in angry ranting.

Oh, sorry. I have confused about your names.
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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2018, 10:22:47 PM »
Another example: Hypocrisy of forum management.

Whenever someone far to management makes a rule violation, immediately gets punish. But whenever someone close to management makes a rule violation, it either a joke, or a missunderstanding.

If one or more people are "banned" when they say "I have used a clone account", justice can not be said here if others are accepted as "making joke" in the face of the same crime.

If someone's harassment or bullying causing immediately ban, ustice can not be said here if other's harassment or bullying accepted as "making joke" in the face of the same crime.

In short, if you are a member far to management, whenever they want they punish you with a phony reason. but if you a member close to management, whatever you did but it doesn't cause you have get punished.

Managers should behave equally about members. A rule  is either exist, or not. If any rule has been applied anybody, so it should be applied to others too.

While a group of privileged members doing whatever they want with doesn't get any punishment for them; if another group of non privileged members getting banned for them; there is a privileged class formation in these.

When it is agreed a privileged class, it destroys the concept of justice among people. When the concept of justice is destroyed among the people, then people start to secure the justice by themselves, like how they did in french revolution.

But if people can't secure the justice by themselves too; in circumstances where justice is lost, and chaos occurs, like Afghanistan, Iraq or Syria.

The matter is; is the forum people/management want to be in a fair place like Swiss or Canada; or they want to be in a place which is corrected by people like French, or a chaos like Afghanistan.

The management has already applied the forum the formation of Afghanistan. We want justice, we want Swiss type of justice.
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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2018, 08:27:59 AM »
It doesn't really matter if someone says they are an alt. What matters is whether there is any evidence of it. I suspect you are talking about NotSoSkeptical, and he doesn't post from the same IP address as any other poster here, so even setting aside the fact that he was joking (which is clear to anyone that natively speaks English, and likely less clear if it is a foreign language to you), there is no evidence he actually has any alts. Otherwise, I'd give him a vacation. Same goes for anyone else, too.

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« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2018, 08:58:11 AM »
It doesn't really matter if someone says they are an alt. What matters is whether there is any evidence of it. I suspect you are talking about NotSoSkeptical, and he doesn't post from the same IP address as any other poster here, so even setting aside the fact that he was joking (which is clear to anyone that natively speaks English, and likely less clear if it is a foreign language to you), there is no evidence he actually has any alts. Otherwise, I'd give him a vacation. Same goes for anyone else, too.

Yeah different IP totally proves that it's not an alt even if the person says so.
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« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2018, 08:59:21 AM »
It doesn't really matter if someone says they are an alt. What matters is whether there is any evidence of it. I suspect you are talking about NotSoSkeptical, and he doesn't post from the same IP address as any other poster here, so even setting aside the fact that he was joking (which is clear to anyone that natively speaks English, and likely less clear if it is a foreign language to you), there is no evidence he actually has any alts. Otherwise, I'd give him a vacation. Same goes for anyone else, too.

Yeah different IP totally proves that it's not an alt even if the person says so.

That's not what I said.

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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2018, 10:11:29 AM »
He doesn't use different IP's. Just his IP adresses are already hidden. At least this is what scg has informed. In this situation an alt never has been proven. This is an handicap of forum system to allowing users hide their IP adresses. Either you deny users hide their IP adresses, or  notices must be taken into account. Otherwise it means using countless alt is free (by hiding IP adresses).

Another say, you can never prove someone's using alt if he uses an hidden IP. confessing in this regard is an important proof. but because you do not want to do it, you produce excuses.
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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2018, 10:19:54 AM »
Joking is not confessing.

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Re: Problems about childish moderation team
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2018, 12:32:44 PM »
He doesn't use different IP's. Just his IP adresses are already hidden. At least this is what scg has informed. In this situation an alt never has been proven. This is an handicap of forum system to allowing users hide their IP adresses. Either you deny users hide their IP adresses, or  notices must be taken into account. Otherwise it means using countless alt is free (by hiding IP adresses).

Another say, you can never prove someone's using alt if he uses an hidden IP. confessing in this regard is an important proof. but because you do not want to do it, you produce excuses.

wise, he was joking. I'm not going to ban someone for joking about having alts.
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