Jordan Peterson... thoughts?

I've been listening to this guy. I've seen his rise in the lime light... I was just watching this parody-is clip of him... and was curious if any of y'alls had input.

I believe we had a thread discussing him a while ago.

I think the media were pretty unfair to him, and he did have some nice videos on psychology and a couple nice debates/interviews. But I really don't take him all that seriously and he's just full of shit sometimes.

Also, just gonna leave this here:

I feel that the sort of fans he's attracting is causing him to skew his content into crazier paths.

He started out fairly reasonable but he's sounding more and more loony as he caters to these weirdos that worship him.

I feel that the sort of fans he's attracting is causing him to skew his content into crazier paths.

He started out fairly reasonable but he's sounding more and more loony as he caters to these weirdos that worship him.

Yeah that could explain it somewhat. But I think he was kinda weird from the get go.

I have no idea who Jordan Peterson is.

I have no idea who Jordan Peterson is.

A lobster disguised as a psychology professor.

Also, he cries on camera a lot, for some reason. There's even a video where he cries because he reads something about individualism, it's kind of weird.

It's kinda strange how the IDW are all talking about dmt and mushrooms.

It's kinda strange how the IDW are all talking about dmt and mushrooms.

What's the IDW?

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on August 17, 2018, 11:57:19 AM

It's kinda strange how the IDW are all talking about dmt and mushrooms.

What's the IDW?

Intellectual Dark Web.

Jordon Peterson is part of it, lol. So is Joe Rogan and a couple others i can't remember.

I'm not sure what they have to do with the dark web though.

A bunch of nerds wank to them, it's pretty dark!

The IDW... my preferred viewing content

Huh? Does JP think he's an early adopter of the internet as a platform for expressing his views or something?

Huh? Does JP think he's an early adopter of the internet as a platform for expressing his views or something?

I doubt he would agree with that line of thought. But he has been posting his college lectures for a very long time... he didn't start making a larger name for himself until the hate speech laws in Canada started being passed

He's about a quarter of a century late to call himself that...

He's about a quarter of a century late to call himself that...

Okay... so what is it you are trying to say? Would you care to elaborate?

I am listening to the open minute  over and over again trying to figure out how you came to your conclusion... I don't think he is saying what you are saying he is saying

Quote from: Pezevenk on August 23, 2018, 01:16:56 PM

He's about a quarter of a century late to call himself that...

Okay... so what is it you are trying to say? Would you care to elaborate?

It's just that he referred to himself and the rest of the "IDW" as one of the early adopters of a revolutionary new technology (the internet) and it's very weird that he says that since they're by no means early adopters.

Quote from: RocketSauce on August 23, 2018, 01:23:05 PM

Quote from: Pezevenk on August 23, 2018, 01:16:56 PM

He's about a quarter of a century late to call himself that...

Okay... so what is it you are trying to say? Would you care to elaborate?

It's just that he referred to himself and the rest of the "IDW" as one of the early adopters of a revolutionary new technology (the internet) and it's very weird that he says that since they're by no means early adopters.

He clearly said, I don't know what the IDW is... I think it is "this"

And in the context on what he is a professor of... I would presume anything under a century or a few decades would be considered early adopters... I'd have to listen to it a few more times, but I honestly don't think he is Al Goring podcasts...

But even from the standpoint of using the internet for long form discussions to discuss controversial topics without a producer saying it was time to break for commercial... howard stern for instance was one of the early adopters of long form radio interviews and that wasn't really seen from anyone else until these podcasts came along

So even if he is including himself with the association of the IDW, I don't find him wrong in saying that. The point being, long form interviews of controversial topics... being able to flesh out the debate instead of playing to the sound bites

Quote from: Pezevenk on August 23, 2018, 01:25:37 PM

Quote from: RocketSauce on August 23, 2018, 01:23:05 PM

Quote from: Pezevenk on August 23, 2018, 01:16:56 PM

He's about a quarter of a century late to call himself that...

Okay... so what is it you are trying to say? Would you care to elaborate?

It's just that he referred to himself and the rest of the "IDW" as one of the early adopters of a revolutionary new technology (the internet) and it's very weird that he says that since they're by no means early adopters.

He clearly said, I don't know what the IDW is... I think it is "this"

And in the context on what he is a professor of... I would presume anything under a century or a few decades would be considered early adopters... I'd have to listen to it a few more times, but I honestly don't think he is Al Goring podcasts

What's Al Goring? Never heard of it before... Anyways it's a bit weird to say you're an early adopter of something when nearly everyone else has also already adopted it. It's... kind of against the definition of the word...

Al gore was commonly parodied for claiming he invented the internet or something.

I added more thoughts to my previous post, sorry

Jordan Peterson?  He's soooo early 2018.

But even from the standpoint of using the internet for long form discussions to discuss controversial topics without a producer saying it was time to break for commercial... howard stern for instance was one of the early adopters of long form radio interviews and that wasn't really seen from anyone else until these podcasts came along

So even if he is including himself with the association of the IDW, I don't find him wrong in saying that. The point being, long form interviews of controversial topics... being able to flesh out the debate instead of playing to the sound bites

All of these things have already been done a long time ago, they're not exactly early adopters in any way. JP doesn't really strike me as very tech savvy, and I think he may have a bit of a false picture of things. It reminds me of how my parents are frequently impressed by lots of pretty mundane internet things that they think are new, they're about his age.

Quote from: RocketSauce on August 23, 2018, 01:29:56 PM

But even from the standpoint of using the internet for long form discussions to discuss controversial topics without a producer saying it was time to break for commercial... howard stern for instance was one of the early adopters of long form radio interviews and that wasn't really seen from anyone else until these podcasts came along

So even if he is including himself with the association of the IDW, I don't find him wrong in saying that. The point being, long form interviews of controversial topics... being able to flesh out the debate instead of playing to the sound bites

All of these things have already been done a long time ago, they're not exactly early adopters in any way. JP doesn't really strike me as very tech savvy, and I think he may have a bit of a false picture of things. It reminds me of how my parents are frequently impressed by lots of pretty mundane internet things that they think are new, they're about his age.

So you are dismissing everything else he is saying based on what... that Jordan Peterson was trying to make up a description of the IDW (a made up term by dudes in their circle) as early adopter of Podcasts for long form discussions on controversial topics?

Seems to be a little simplistic of a hang-up for you... not too dissimilar from dismissing what someone has said due to a typo, or by speaking in generalities to save time... but, hey... that is your point to make...

It just seems that usually your points are a little more of an intellectual review of the message as a whole instead of focusing on a throw away comment at the beginning. I only posted the second clip because SJC mentioned the IDW and DMT...

As far as a long time ago... technology and the rapid progression of it makes 10 years ago feel like a long time ago... 10 years is a blip... I mean... humans have only been flying in airplanes for... how long? Just over 100 years? And dropping bombs from them 10 years after that... nukes, a other 20? And before that... sail boats where the shit for centuries.

YouTube has long been the land of cat and nut shot videos. It is only 10 years (ish) that people have been using it for long form podcast interviews as a means of getting messages out without using newspapers or tv...  but, again... I understand what you are trying to say... as far as the tech savvy aspect... there are lectures that he recorded back in the mullet days... it's not hard to stay tech savvy if you don't ignore it

Careful Pez, you're triggering the JP fanboy.

So you are dismissing everything else he is saying based on what... that Jordan Peterson was trying to make up a description of the IDW (a made up term by dudes in their circle) as early adopter of Podcasts for long form discussions on controversial topics?

Seems to be a little simplistic of a hang-up for you... not too dissimilar from dismissing what someone has said due to a typo, or by speaking in generalities to save time... but, hey... that is your point to make...

Nah, I'm not dismissing him. I just noted it because I found it odd. I didn't watch the rest because I didn't have time. I may get to it eventually.

Btw, I've linked to this again, this video is the funniest response to JP I've watched to this date:


Even if you disagree you gotta at least admit it's funny!

Careful Pez, you're triggering the JP fanboy.

Like Jane, I'm a fan boy of thought... critical thinking... and world dominating penguins

Quote from: RocketSauce on August 23, 2018, 02:20:12 PM

So you are dismissing everything else he is saying based on what... that Jordan Peterson was trying to make up a description of the IDW (a made up term by dudes in their circle) as early adopter of Podcasts for long form discussions on controversial topics?

Seems to be a little simplistic of a hang-up for you... not too dissimilar from dismissing what someone has said due to a typo, or by speaking in generalities to save time... but, hey... that is your point to make...

Nah, I'm not dismissing him. I just noted it because I found it odd. I didn't watch the rest because I didn't have time. I may get to it eventually.

Btw, I've linked to this again, this video is the funniest response to JP I've watched to this date:


Even if you disagree you gotta at least admit it's funny!

28 fucking minutes? Seriously bro?

I'll skim through your video if you watch the original video at the top...

Okay, well this is what the problem is... because he is fighting "speech laws" the LGBT thinks he is targeting them... he isn't against trans people by any means... he is against the government passing speech laws

Contra is a flake.