Sonday school is part of a religious indoctrination program of the past just like ‘pseudo science’ is in modern times.
Those who want to enslave little children in order to have lasting rulership over future adults
Yes, also known as religion.
But you seem fine with that with your preaching of a creator.
Like those astronauts daring to read the bible while lying about going around the moon.
And more baseless claims from you?
Where is your evidence that they are lying about going to the moon?
The best you have to question their credibility is them reading a book full of garbage.
i let go the sunday school indoctrination
Except you clearly haven't as you still foolishly believe in a creator.
Meanwhile I discarded it and accepted reality.
and the pseudo science/globe/evolution/cosmic indoctrination.......and started all over again.
And yes i found God in the process !
You mean and you rejected all scientific progress, going back before the dark age and starting with the same religious nonsense?
More problematic is when something is missing you look in the wrong direction for answers.
Yes, such as when looking to religious nonsense rather than science/reality. i.e. what you did.
You have given me nothing at all just some indoctrinated info that i can look up within 15 minutes
You mean reality, not indoctrinated info.
Reality isn't indoctrinated info.
I have presented many proof against the moonlandings for instance
I am yet to see you provide a single piece of evidence against them.
All you have are paranoid ramblings.
I did however got something out of it, that if humans not successfully went back before 2069 the initial claims could indeed be sort of false.
You are yet to provide any reason for why we should go back.
It is an extremely expensive process to send people to the moon.
There is no justification to go.
There isn't even the justification of making an achievement because it has already been done.
As such, your argument amounts to nothing.
what proof do you need when comparing all the broken promisses about future moon
How about actual evidence against them going, rather than simply over promising?
Clear proof that they were talking out of their ass back then
Only about the future, not what they were actually doing.
Their promises relied upon technological advancements which they were hoping for which would make it cheap to go to space, such as space elevators.
Instead of these cheap options, they still rely upon rocket fuel, which remains expensive.
They also became more conscious regarding the hazards.
Think of this:
People go to the moon with NASA.
They come back.
Then after some time they get cancer for whatever reason.
They then decide to sue NASA for "giving them cancer".
Taking people to the moon is a massive risk with today's society which just seems to want to sue people.
This applies to so many different areas.
In the past people claimed everyone would be driving cheap electric cars, with high speed trains travelling through vacuum tubes, and so on.
Yet these promises have failed to realise.
Does that mean there are no electric cars and no high speed trains? NO!
It just means they have overestimated what would happen.
'But uhhhh they have destroyed all technologies and have forgotten sone serious space related stuff needed to go out there
No. They have significantly advanced the technology with comes with other limitations.
Notice how this is just more moaning about now rather than having any actual evidence against them being able to do it?
When a car can drive it is proof of the underlying science
And notice, "A" car. Not when everyone can have a car.
Likewise, when a rocket can go to space, it is proof of the underlying science. When a person goes to the moon it is proof of the underlying science.
It doesn't require everyone to have a rocket or everyone to go to the moon.
Earth's spin, the moonlandings, the big bang , macro evolution etc. have so much philosophical elements instead of real evidence that we must clearly distinct between the two.
You mean they have plenty of real, solid evidence, such that no sane person would doubt them.
If you claim the coriolis effect is real science , my reply was/is that there are lots of extreem large indoors facilities that can check if it is the truth or an oldwives tale that a long distance shooter must take the coriolis effect into account.
Notice how you aren't actually providing evidence against it, nor are you countering any of the already existing evidence for it?
Instead you are just complaining that the evidence you want doesn't exist.
THAT IS NOT SCIENCE!
Science is not trying to test something in every possible conceivable way.
It is trying to test it in reasonable ways. That has been done.
Testing in more ways which would produce equivalent results isn't going to help.
a better and accurate data mapping of the effect is not needed,..... unless one wants to proof Einstein's cosmic ripple's..... then we can measure the size of 1000the of a proton's diameter.
Why?
Because it is something new.
If we already have proof beyond any reasonable doubt, and the more advanced measurements wouldn't do anything, using those more advanced measurements is nothing more than a complete waste of money.
If we don't already have that evidence, and these more advanced measurements can allow us to get it, then it arguably is not a waste or money.
I have presented so much what could and should have been tested
No you haven't.
You have presented a lot of what could have been tested. You are yet to justify why it should.
Until you provide that justification of why it should, you have less than no argument.
Even if you do provide a justification of why it should, you still have no argument as you have nothing to refute all the tests which have already been done.
i see no reason to give all blueprints and data free for everyone to research.
Then file a FOI request and see what you get, or see what information you can already find.
Also notice that just because no one wants to go to the moon doesn't mean the technology doesn't have other applications such as in the delivery of weapons.
That is the 'scientific method',... not your quasi scientific nonsense derived from some online source that has some NASA logo on it .
No. Rejecting something because you don't have all the data you want or because people didn't perform tests you want is not the scientific method.
The NASA 'shredder' destroys blueprints, data that enables you to built something back without a painfull process !!
Nope. Even with the blueprints it would still be a painful process to get it all back as it uses a bunch of technology which has been completely superseded.
So you either need to find the technology to manufacture it, or upgrade it.
And 'destroyed' means a disfunctional assembly line .....
You mean an assembly which doesn't exist any more, using parts which don't exist anymore except as components in museums (or stuck on the moon), run by people who have likely retired.
I would say that is destroyed.
We no longer have the craft to go to the moon in a functional state to go to the moon, nor the processes to easily make a new one.
And 'painfull process' means 'takes some time'
No, take a considerable amount of time, effort and resources.
You know, what it typically means.
It doesn't mean it will cause physical pain.
The odds that any outlandish space claim they made was genuine is almost zero considering all of the above.
Yes, when you ignore all the actual evidence and instead paint in in a paranoid spotlight.
But there is nothing sane about your reasoning.
I’m from the Netherlands and the best prime minister post WW2 called Willem Drees received petrified wood as a gift instead of moonrock.
Where this was in no way presented as a moon rock, being completely inconsistent with the samples actually given out. It was significantly larger than any of the other samples and presented in a completely different manner.
They also have the 2 samples that were officially given to the Netherlands, and people can't find a problem with that.
There is absolutely no sane reason to think that this was presented on behalf of NASA as an actual rock from the moon by anyone who actually bothers looking into it.