sun and stars at night in FE

On FE, the sun is circling the dome. Yet at night, I can see stars over the entire sky, even where the sun is. Why can I see the stars and not the sun?

On FE, the sun is circling the dome. Yet at night, I can see stars over the entire sky, even where the sun is. Why can I see the stars and not the sun?

One FE explanation idea I  have read might be that the sun "acts like a spotlight and shines down directly in a circle on the earth - this is daylight" ...Sort of like a lamp with a shade or inside a tin can or has some sort of reflector or lens to focus it into to a circle-like beam like  a flashlight...You don't see the sun unless you are directly  underneath that beam. When you're not in the beam, it's night.

Another is that the sun is so far away at night that it appears so small that you can't see it at night....the sun would be on the other side  of the earth.
It might be that you can't see it because of the thckness of the atmoplane.
And I guess you are only seeing the stars in your hemiplane.

According to one FE animation , the sun and the moon are in the same orbit over the earth.
Both are the same size - 32 miles in diameter.
Both are the same distance above the  earth - 3000 miles.
Both travel at the same speed over the earth over the earth.
And according to the animation they are always separated by 180 degrees.

I'm writiing all this in the hope that if I got it wrong , some FE will jump in and give you the correct FE answer. :-)
I'm just an RE who is trying to guess what the FE answers might be.

Quote from: jimster on July 14, 2018, 08:34:20 PM

On FE, the sun is circling the dome. Yet at night, I can see stars over the entire sky, even where the sun is. Why can I see the stars and not the sun?

One FE explanation idea I  have read might be that the sun "acts like a spotlight and shines down directly in a circle on the earth - this is daylight" ...Sort of like a lamp with a shade or inside a tin can or has some sort of reflector or lens to focus it into to a circle-like beam like  a flashlight...You don't see the sun unless you are directly  underneath that beam. When you're not in the beam, it's night.

Another is that the sun is so far away at night that it appears so small that you can't see it at night....the sun would be on the other side  of the earth.
It might be that you can't see it because of the thckness of the atmoplane.
And I guess you are only seeing the stars in your hemiplane.

According to one FE animation , the sun and the moon are in the same orbit over the earth.
Both are the same size - 32 miles in diameter.
Both are the same distance above the  earth - 3000 miles.
Both travel at the same speed over the earth over the earth.
And according to the animation they are always separated by 180 degrees.

That animation shows "they are always separated by 180 degrees" but I think it's just over-simplified.
I'm pretty sure that FEers have the circling a little slower showing more or less what we see.
Of course, the sun and moon circling above the earth simply does not work anyway.

I'm writiing all this in the hope that if I got it wrong , some FE will jump in and give you the correct FE answer. :-)
I'm just an RE who is trying to guess what the FE answers might be.

I won't try to explain anymore as I like you are "just an RE who is trying to guess what the FE answers might be."

Quote from: jimster on July 14, 2018, 08:34:20 PM

On FE, the sun is circling the dome. Yet at night, I can see stars over the entire sky, even where the sun is. Why can I see the stars and not the sun?

One FE explanation idea I  have read might be that the sun "acts like a spotlight and shines down directly in a circle on the earth - this is daylight" ...Sort of like a lamp with a shade or inside a tin can or has some sort of reflector or lens to focus it into to a circle-like beam like  a flashlight...You don't see the sun unless you are directly  underneath that beam. When you're not in the beam, it's night.

Yes, that is the "theory". But being only 52 km in diameter, 5'000 km above the surface and illuminating an area of several thousand kilometers in diameter with almost the same intensity is a quite unfocused flashligt. This is more like the ceiling lamp in my dining room.

Quote from: Googleotomy on July 14, 2018, 09:24:15 PM

Quote from: jimster on July 14, 2018, 08:34:20 PM

On FE, the sun is circling the dome. Yet at night, I can see stars over the entire sky, even where the sun is. Why can I see the stars and not the sun?

One FE explanation idea I  have read might be that the sun "acts like a spotlight and shines down directly in a circle on the earth - this is daylight" ...Sort of like a lamp with a shade or inside a tin can or has some sort of reflector or lens to focus it into to a circle-like beam like  a flashlight...You don't see the sun unless you are directly  underneath that beam. When you're not in the beam, it's night.

Another is that the sun is so far away at night that it appears so small that you can't see it at night....the sun would be on the other side  of the earth.
It might be that you can't see it because of the thckness of the atmoplane.
And I guess you are only seeing the stars in your hemiplane.

According to one FE animation , the sun and the moon are in the same orbit over the earth.
Both are the same size - 32 miles in diameter.
Both are the same distance above the  earth - 3000 miles.
Both travel at the same speed over the earth over the earth.
And according to the animation they are always separated by 180 degrees.

That animation shows "they are always separated by 180 degrees" but I think it's just over-simplified.
I'm pretty sure that FEers have the circling a little slower showing more or less what we see.
Of course, the sun and moon circling above the earth simply does not work anyway.

Quote from: Googleotomy

I'm writiing all this in the hope that if I got it wrong , some FE will jump in and give you the correct FE answer. :-)
I'm just an RE who is trying to guess what the FE answers might be.

I won't try to explain anymore as I like you are "just an RE who is trying to guess what the FE answers might be."

Not having seen any response from any FE, I just thought I would give it a go ! LOL
In the faint hope that maybe  some FE would be goaded into making some brilliant remark.
No luck yet . :-(

Quote from: Googleotomy on July 14, 2018, 09:24:15 PM

Quote from: jimster on July 14, 2018, 08:34:20 PM

On FE, the sun is circling the dome. Yet at night, I can see stars over the entire sky, even where the sun is. Why can I see the stars and not the sun?

One FE explanation idea I  have read might be that the sun "acts like a spotlight and shines down directly in a circle on the earth - this is daylight" ...Sort of like a lamp with a shade or inside a tin can or has some sort of reflector or lens to focus it into to a circle-like beam like  a flashlight...You don't see the sun unless you are directly  underneath that beam. When you're not in the beam, it's night.

Yes, that is the "theory". But being only 52 km in diameter, 5'000 km above the surface and illuminating an area of several thousand kilometers in diameter with almost the same intensity is a quite unfocused flashligt. This is more like the ceiling lamp in my dining room.

Yes......That is the way I have been led to believe ?
"All I know is what I read in the papers this forum and that's my excuse for ignorance." - Will Rogers misquoted. LOL

Also, as best as I understand it the changes in the seasons has something to do with the changes of the orbits of the sun.
And also the reason why the stars rotate in different directions in the northern and southern hemiplane.
Both of which have something to do with the celestial gears......I think ?

And eclipses of the sun and moon have something to do with the dark object and/or the moon wobbleing up and down ?
Flat Earth Theory does get a bit complicated to us ignorant RE's !

Help !  FE's ! Can you clear up all of  this, please, so Dirk, jimster, rabinoz and googleotomy  will understand the truth of The Flat Earth Theory.
We  need to hear from the voice(s) of authority !