Were-penguin, player's thread

I vote for lynching boydster.  If I am wrong, lynch me next. 

Quote from: DuckDodgers on July 16, 2018, 09:06:45 PM

I'm half tempted to go along with everyone else's plan just to get these two out of the game if this is how they want to act.

I'm siding with this. We've five votes for BHS, and if it's a tie we learn nothing, like Boydster said. Ichi excluded, we only have three votes left. If he's a penguin, that's several days more we live. If he's the psychic, we have the benefit of his past posts to draw upon when we actually know their significance. If he's a villager, that gives me a few thoughts about who the true psychic really is, though obviously don't want to say any of them where the penguins can see.
If he survives, we've got to contend with someone who lashes out at anyone suspicious of them, and we learn nothing so we're in the same boat as the end of day one with one fewer person. And after night one we're probably going to lose Ichi and so learn nothing else from the penguins. I've said it since the start; division is the absolute worst thing for us.

Six hours until we know for sure!

Sounds like a crappy idea. Don't like the way 2 people behave so kill them. And when they are found to be innocent? You've wasted 2 opportunities to kill 2 penguins and save your lives.

Forget personality politics for one moment. To beat this game you need to use sound logical deductive reasoning. Which so far none of you are doing (or doing well) Boydster is trying but he is most definitely wrong with his assumptions on me. Of that you can be sure. Makes me question the validity of his other findings.

Mark my words.... Space Cowgirl is one of the penguins. After this is all done and dusted you will all beat your heads against a wall and cry 'we should have listened to Shifter'

BHS' fate is sealed at this point with Jroa's vote. I don't think BHS is a penguin, but it can't be helped now. I also can't say for sure that boydster isn't a penguin, but I have a pretty strong feeling he isn't if Jroa is voting for him.

I truly think it's Pez and SCG as the penguins.

I vote to lynch SCG.

Ichimaru Gin :] hasn't said a thing or participated that I can see. Last online July 12. Is there some other fate that can befall the deadwood participants?

For all Shifter's complaints we're not using logic, that's one thing we're definitely doing. Personal likes and dislikes don't enter into it, despite their lashing out.
And because of that, if BHS is innocent as more people seem to think, I've still got my eye on Shifter because the one thing that makes less sense than how BHS has acted is Shifter's adamant defense. If BHS is the psychic, Shifter would only have BHS's word for that. Maybe it's a personal friendship, but you really can't take this kind of game personally. Shifter is taking one hell of a risk here because if it turns out BHS lied and is the penguin, all eyes are going to go to the only one that's been trying constantly to divert attention away. It's impossible to be sure that anyone is not the penguin though.
But if Shifter is a penguin, he would know if BHS is not, and more than that it would kind of suit him perfectly to give such an impassioned plea for someone that he would know to be innocent. Risk-free. Shifter seems to be almost the only one of us that never suspected BHS, and with five votes for BHS that's at least three of us that aren't penguins and were taken in. Shifter meanwhile was certain.

Hrm. Just suspicions.

4 hours til sunset.

2 votes remain.  Both are needed to tie SCG and BHS.

Will Ichimaru and Wesker save the day?

Who are the were-penguins?

And is there a possibility that the narrator severely botched the drawing and drew himself as both were-penguins?

What a twist!

And is there a possibility that the narrator severely botched the drawing and drew himself as both were-penguins?

I WARNED YOU ALLLL

An example of logic an reason when working out who is at least NOT a werepenguin

Ichimaru Gin :] has not been online since the game started. If he were a werepenguin he would need to send a PM to request who he wants killed. If by the time the next person has been killed and he has not logged on, you can be sure he is innocent.

Little good that info does if he doesn't come on line at all to participate in the votes though.

The pre-deceased:
1 boydster
2 Albert Wesker
3 Space Cowgirl
4 Pezevenk
5 Ichimaru Gin :]
6 Shifter
7 DuckDodgers
8 Jane
9 Roundy2.0
10 BabyHighSpeed
11 jroa

For two Wolves to win, there must only be 8 Villagers left (i.e. 10 players overall).

Uh. Guys.
If it isn't BHS, we're screwed, whether we lynch or not.

Those are some dumb rules

Those are some dumb rules

It makes sense in person I think, when you have body language etc. Or more players, it'd be more days to cut down that much. Or just if you expect games to potentially be comparatively short, this is 3/4 real life days we're talking about.
At least it's a suitably grand finale. Actual tension as to whether or not it's BHS. If it is, we're in business. If it's not, we'll fall to beak and flipper.

I could understand a 2:1 ratio or maybe even a 3:1, but 4:1 just seems asinine. It's also suspicious you'd just now bring this up after advocating peace day 1. You're a penguin!

I can't imagine anyone but a penguin flipping out like this at the prospect of being lynched. If it's not BHS, then it is definitely Shifter. Threatening to kill himself if his bff is lynched is a desperate over the top reaction to try to make himself seem innocent.

Under those rules, we had a maximum of 1 attempt to get it right for the lynching.  Whether day 1 or day 2,the lynch and penguin feast brings it to 10, thus ending the game under Wilmore rules.

Those are some dumb rules

I agree.  That's why I changed the rules to total annihilation.

Penguins

For the Penguins, they need to kill all of the villagers.

I could understand a 2:1 ratio or maybe even a 3:1, but 4:1 just seems asinine. It's also suspicious you'd just now bring this up after advocating peace day 1. You're a penguin!

If we'd killed on day one, we'd have died on night one. This way at least we got more data. Whether or not it was right...

Eh, there are arguments both ways. I think the biggest problem is a too high a ratio of wolf to person from the start. We needed more volunteers. We're probably right on the cusp between having one wolf and having two.

Quote from: DuckDodgers on July 17, 2018, 07:34:47 AM

Those are some dumb rules

I agree.  That's why I changed the rules to total annihilation.

Quote from: Crouton on July 14, 2018, 07:03:08 AM

Penguins

For the Penguins, they need to kill all of the villagers.

Ah! Didn't see that. I did look for the condition in the OP, must've slipped over it.

Well technically the penguins would need to outnumber the villagers since at that point there's no way the villagers could win.

I'm curious who and how BHS knows a 3rd person is safe.

I'm curious who and how BHS knows a 3rd person is safe.

That's another question for Crouton!
While the psychic isn't allowed to come forth and just say they're the psychic, if BHS is the psychic which we'll find out one way or the other upon his death, can his ghost use the night to say what he found out? That'd give us someone we can trust.

5. Don't post during the day-cycle of the game if you have been killed. Dead players can only talk at night. Just to be clear, lynches happen during the day and werePenguins/True Flat Earth Scientist PM at night. Check my last update; if a lynch is on, it's daytime. If I've asked the Penguins/True Flat Earth Scientist to PM, it's night.

6. The True Flat Earth Scientist cannot tell people they are the True Flat Earth Scientist (at least not within this topic). Obviously, I cannot control what you do elsewhere (PM, IM, IRC etc.), but beware; with the True Flat Earth Scientist, not all may be as it seems...

There has only been one night in the game. The Scientist couldn't have made more than one guess, so can only be sure of him/herself and one other person.

Trying to make people think you're the Scientist without outright claiming it in the thread would be a good strategy for a penguin to use. Claiming to know that 3 people are safe was a dumb mistake, even your bff will lie to you in this game.

I'm looking forward to lynching BHS and exposing him for the rat penguin that he is. In my gut I still feel like he's guilty.

Ok so we have some time still to work this out, even if BHS turns out to be a villager somehow.

I'm growing concerned about some other parties that were low on my radar before. But the info we learn after the lynching and the nightly murder will help resolve a lot, I think.

Oh great Lord Cruton, in all your carbohydratey goodness, I pray to you that you did not gift the power of sight to BHS. In your crumbs I pray, crunch crunch.

2 hours til sunset. 

There shall be answers.  And blood.  Well mostly blood really.

5. Don't post during the day-cycle of the game if you have been killed. Dead players can only talk at night. Just to be clear, lynches happen during the day and werePenguins/True Flat Earth Scientist PM at night. Check my last update; if a lynch is on, it's daytime. If I've asked the Penguins/True Flat Earth Scientist to PM, it's night.

6. The True Flat Earth Scientist cannot tell people they are the True Flat Earth Scientist (at least not within this topic). Obviously, I cannot control what you do elsewhere (PM, IM, IRC etc.), but beware; with the True Flat Earth Scientist, not all may be as it seems...

There has only been one night in the game. The Scientist couldn't have made more than one guess, so can only be sure of him/herself and one other person.

Trying to make people think you're the Scientist without outright claiming it in the thread would be a good strategy for a penguin to use. Claiming to know that 3 people are safe was a dumb mistake, even your bff will lie to you in this game.

If Ichimaru Gin :] doesn't go online in the next few hours, he is definitely not a penguin. I'm not the scientist but it's pretty easy to figure that out

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 17, 2018, 08:25:50 AM

5. Don't post during the day-cycle of the game if you have been killed. Dead players can only talk at night. Just to be clear, lynches happen during the day and werePenguins/True Flat Earth Scientist PM at night. Check my last update; if a lynch is on, it's daytime. If I've asked the Penguins/True Flat Earth Scientist to PM, it's night.

6. The True Flat Earth Scientist cannot tell people they are the True Flat Earth Scientist (at least not within this topic). Obviously, I cannot control what you do elsewhere (PM, IM, IRC etc.), but beware; with the True Flat Earth Scientist, not all may be as it seems...

There has only been one night in the game. The Scientist couldn't have made more than one guess, so can only be sure of him/herself and one other person.

Trying to make people think you're the Scientist without outright claiming it in the thread would be a good strategy for a penguin to use. Claiming to know that 3 people are safe was a dumb mistake, even your bff will lie to you in this game.

If Ichimaru Gin :] doesn't go online in the next few hours, he is definitely not a penguin. I'm not the scientist but it's pretty easy to figure that out

I should clarify this point.  In the event that a were-penguin is absent for that turn, I pass the responsibility to the other were-penguin.  So both were-penguins would have to be absent that day to miss a turn.

I think I have an idea about who the Scientist is... Obviously not going to say, to protect him from the penguins.

Quote from: Shifter on July 17, 2018, 09:02:20 AM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 17, 2018, 08:25:50 AM

5. Don't post during the day-cycle of the game if you have been killed. Dead players can only talk at night. Just to be clear, lynches happen during the day and werePenguins/True Flat Earth Scientist PM at night. Check my last update; if a lynch is on, it's daytime. If I've asked the Penguins/True Flat Earth Scientist to PM, it's night.

6. The True Flat Earth Scientist cannot tell people they are the True Flat Earth Scientist (at least not within this topic). Obviously, I cannot control what you do elsewhere (PM, IM, IRC etc.), but beware; with the True Flat Earth Scientist, not all may be as it seems...

There has only been one night in the game. The Scientist couldn't have made more than one guess, so can only be sure of him/herself and one other person.

Trying to make people think you're the Scientist without outright claiming it in the thread would be a good strategy for a penguin to use. Claiming to know that 3 people are safe was a dumb mistake, even your bff will lie to you in this game.

If Ichimaru Gin :] doesn't go online in the next few hours, he is definitely not a penguin. I'm not the scientist but it's pretty easy to figure that out

I should clarify this point.  In the event that a were-penguin is absent for that turn, I pass the responsibility to the other were-penguin.  So both were-penguins would have to be absent that day to miss a turn.

WHAT?! No, that's fucked up, because it a) impedes the invitation and b) could still allow for some intrigue if a penguin decides not to kill. It's a win-win for the game if this new rule is retracted. Plus, it messes with my calculus about suspicions and how to resolve them.

Invitation = investigation in my last post. My effing new phone doesn't autocorrect the right way yet.