Time is nothing more than man's invention.

There is no such real thing as time, it is only an idea.  A man made way of keeping track of things.  It is also a convinient way for others to make money, I'll explain:

What if a month had 100 days instead of 30, then you would only have to pay your bills 3.6 times a year, but some asshole dicided that a month would be 30 days so his greedy little ass could get paid 12 times a year instead, this theory can also apply to the greedy cops, I'll explain:

If there was no such thing as an hour, how in the hell could they write all those speeding tickets for exceeding Xmiles per hour, if some greedy asshole had never invented time we could all drive as fast as we pleased.

So I submit to you that the only reason's for the absolutey made up bullshit theory of "time" is, money, greed, and control of the population.

What if a month had 100 days instead of 30, then you would only have to pay your bills 3.6 times a year, but some asshole dicided that a month would be 30 days so his greedy little ass could get paid 12 times a year instead, this theory can also apply to the greedy cops, I'll explain:

If there was no such thing as an hour, how in the hell could they write all those speeding tickets for exceeding Xmiles per hour, if some greedy asshole had never invented time we could all drive as fast as we pleased.

The flaws with your argument: Bills and Speeding Tickets existed far after time did. Did the Mayans have a calendar? Yes. Did they have Bills and Speeding Tickets? No!

Yes you are right, but bills and speeding tickets are a good reason to keep this bullshit up.

As for the original asshole who invented time, I don't know his reasons, but I'm sure they were evil.

Proabaly a way to control people.

Yes you are right, but bills and speeding tickets are a good reason to keep this bullshit up.

As for the original asshole who invented time, I don't know his reasons, but I'm sure they were evil.

Proabaly a way to control people.

Now let’s suppose Time did not exist. What would happen? Ever single scientific theory out there would collapse, even Flat Earth and Round Earth. All theories are based upon physics, and physics uses time. Without time, there is no gravity, no speed, no anything. Therefore, Flat Earth and the Time conspiracy theory are mutually exclusive. Time has to exist for Flat Earth to exist. Going upward accelerating at 9.8m/s^2 wouldn’t work if there is no time to measure it.

Time is a convenience. When do you play? Oh right, you don’t, since you don’t know what time it is.

No one invented time. It is part of the way all humans interpret the universe, and it is biologically ingrained. We most likely had a concept of time before we were even human.

Ok then, whoever was the one who invented humans with the concept of time already in their heads, is the asshole that invented time.

Anyone can figure that out!

Don't be so obtuse.

Ok then, whoever was the one who invented humans with the concept of time already in their heads, is the asshole that invented time.

Anyone can figure that out!

Don't be so obtuse.

There are two answers to this:
1. A deity, a creator of some sort.
2. Evolution.
1 would imply that the creator is an asshole. They would be even more asshole-ish if they didn’t create us at all. Also, without time, we would be horribly disorganised, and accomplish nothing that the creator would’ve wanted us to do.
2 would imply that evolution is an asshole. Since an asshole is material, then you are implying that evolution is material. And this isn’t true. Therefore, the concept of time is needed and good.

They would be even more asshole-ish if they didn’t create us at all.

Maybe they were supremely asshole-ish by making us with all of these strange thoughts and shit in our heads, just so they get their kicks out of observing all the stupid shit we would do with what they gave us.

They are probably sitting somewhere right now laughing their asses off at how foolish we all are.

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They would be even more asshole-ish if they didn’t create us at all.

Maybe they were supremely asshole-ish by making us with all of these strange thoughts and shit in our heads, just so they get their kicks out of observing all the stupid shit we would do with what they gave us.

They are probably sitting somewhere right now laughing their asses off at how foolish we all are.

How are all these strange thoughts bad? I don’t see how they are; it’s just that sometimes, we’re wrong, by human nature.

The simple fact is, the single rudementary diference between humans and every other living thing is curiosity.

Every living thing eats, reproduces, defecates and dies, but only Humans ponder

Time isn't "invented."  It is the natural progression of events.  If time didn't exist, we wouldn't be able to sit here and talk about it.

What we use to measure time (seconds, minutes, days, months, years, etc) are certainly man made, but are pretty reasonable products of hundreds, or more accurately thousands of years of observation of how time progresses around us.

Some cultures have different months, different numbers of days of months, and et cetera.  But in the end, it all ends up being a cycle, and ends up with a pretty similar end product.  I'm sure that any alien races out there have similar means of measuring time.  Or perhaps they don't base it on planet cycles, but on decay of atoms.  Never know.  Either way, the similar meme is the actual measurement of time.

You've got to be f*cking kidding me. Okay, SD0, I'm just going to say that I haven't seen your try to prove anything without the use of the word "evil" or without some biblical reference. Time exists, get over it. Quit trying to find new things to disprove. We cannot explain time, we simply cannot. However, trying to disprove it is about the most moronic thing anyone could ever attempt.

I believe time is both a figment of Humankind's imagination and a real thing. Humans created time amounts such as how many seconds there are in a minute, how many minutes there are in an hour and so forth, so therefore that part of time is in our heads, but time is real, we see it ever changing our great ROUND Earth, we just dont notice it, there is no such thing as the future, for we are already in it. Im not sure if that even made sense, but hopefully some of you will be smart enough to know what I'm trying to say

I agree. As long as we don't bring time travel into this, I agree with Strader. Time travel is not and never will be possible. Insta-paradox. Don't even get me started. And no, I will not discuss it with you. My brain discusses it with itself every day of my life and I'd rather bury the very idea of time travel than try to tell you why it can't work.

I agree that time travel is impossible and ridiculous, although when I'm reading fantasy books or sci-fi, its fun to read about their theories about (such as plasma weapons colliding and so forth) and how they have an impact on the main storyline.

the reason we have to pay taxes 12 times instead of 3.6 times is that if you had to pay 3.6 times the amount of money would be a lot bigger, leaving some people who didn't plan out their money to be in a lot of trouble. so it is good that you pay small amounts all over the year, not just a few big ones.

as i mentioned else where time is not an invention of man, that is like saying gravity is an invention of man (whether you believe on RE gravity or FE gravity - lets just call it gravity for now so i don't have to think of another word for it)

time is defined as how long it takes for light to travel a certain distance, for example one second is how long it takes light to travel about 300,000 km.

Yes seconds, minutes, hours, and months are all "human" inventions, and broadly days and years too, although they are more inventions of god/random chance (which ever you beleive made the earth rotate on its axis and around the sun at a certain speed). However society would work just as well if you defined minutes as 100 seconds, hours as 100 minutes, days as 20 hours, months as 20 days, and years as 10 months to make it all nice and decimal....  although you would have to redifine the lenght of a second, or not follow the rising and setting of the sun to define what time of day it was, and also not follow the rotation of the earth round the sun to define when a year starts and ends. but you could do it.


but anyway i ramble on. to say that time is an invention of man is lunacy, if humanity didn't exist it would be there just as much as it does now. how man records time is mans invention.... so saying tuesday the  29th of January 1980 is an invention of man would be correct.... if perhaps a little pointless to say.

ok... time travel IS in fact possible... ill give you guys a moment to think about it.. then ill respond... its possible, just not in both directions. :wink:

I agree. As long as we don't bring time travel into this, I agree with Strader. Time travel is not and never will be possible. Insta-paradox. Don't even get me started. And no, I will not discuss it with you. My brain discusses it with itself every day of my life and I'd rather bury the very idea of time travel than try to tell you why it can't work.

This is where you should learn about the magical world of the String Theory.  It is just a theory, of course, but it seems to very plausible.

I suggest visiting this site and learn all about the string theory (use the flash version, for a nice and simple explanation, spoon fed to you in palatable amounts), and then come back and we'll talk about gravity and time travel.

This is where you should learn about the magical world of the String Theory. It is just a theory, of course, but it seems to very plausible.

it unfortunatly, has hardly any evidence.

Oh?  Evidence of this lack of evidence, please.

Time travel IS possible and i have the evidence! What the frak do you think we are doing now ?? Traveling through time! Oh and you can send urself to the future by, i dont think its scientifically beyond our reach, freezing urself and slowering ur aging process, so u can be stored for hundreds of years, and when u wake up, (for ur feeling a few seconds later) ull be a few hundred years in the future:P (if of course, there is a future for mankind)

Time travel IS possible and i have the evidence! What the frak do you think we are doing now ?? Traveling through time! Oh and you can send urself to the future by, i dont think its scientifically beyond our reach, freezing urself and slowering ur aging process, so u can be stored for hundreds of years, and when u wake up, (for ur feeling a few seconds later) ull be a few hundred years in the future:P (if of course, there is a future for mankind)

Time travel is possible, but at a steady rate and in the forwards direction. However, we currently don’t have the technology to melt someone out of the freezing process. And this wouldn’t be travelling into the future, since you’re just sleeping; just because I sleep during the night does not mean I’m skipping 8 hours of time.

Time is as much an invention of man as distance is.

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Time travel IS possible and i have the evidence! What the frak do you think we are doing now ?? Traveling through time! Oh and you can send urself to the future by, i dont think its scientifically beyond our reach, freezing urself and slowering ur aging process, so u can be stored for hundreds of years, and when u wake up, (for ur feeling a few seconds later) ull be a few hundred years in the future:P (if of course, there is a future for mankind)

Time travel is possible, but at a steady rate and in the forwards direction. However, we currently don’t have the technology to melt someone out of the freezing process. And this wouldn’t be travelling into the future, since you’re just sleeping; just because I sleep during the night does not mean I’m skipping 8 hours of time.

i know its not really "traveling" into the future, but u try to sleep that long and wake up a few hundred years from now... it cant be done without this, well maybe over a few million years we'll be able to get hundreds of years old. <<<(when evolution does its work ) But it IS in some way timetravel, since u could skip hundreds of years. and for ur feeling it would be.

Evolution will not enhance our lifespan faster than modern medicine.

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Time travel IS possible and i have the evidence! What the frak do you think we are doing now ?? Traveling through time! Oh and you can send urself to the future by, i dont think its scientifically beyond our reach, freezing urself and slowering ur aging process, so u can be stored for hundreds of years, and when u wake up, (for ur feeling a few seconds later) ull be a few hundred years in the future:P (if of course, there is a future for mankind)

Time travel is possible, but at a steady rate and in the forwards direction. However, we currently don’t have the technology to melt someone out of the freezing process. And this wouldn’t be travelling into the future, since you’re just sleeping; just because I sleep during the night does not mean I’m skipping 8 hours of time.

Well if you want to count time travel as experiencing less time passage than a specific location (such as the earth), it is pretty well proven that high velocity will do it.  So, all you need is a spce ship that can handle 1G of accelertation for about four years (1 year to increace speed, one to decreace, turn around and do the same) .  You'll be four years older, and the Earth as much older as you choose.

Starship Troopers, Ender's War, and Planet of the Apes (The books, not the movies) make reading for examples of this kind of time travel.

Evolution will not enhance our lifespan faster than modern medicine.

im not sure about that.... (now this is just my theory) i believe the longer a species excists the longer it will live, it will evolve so that one organism (humans in this case) will live longer.
Example: in the past (prehistory) people didnt get much older than 50 usually, nowadays its normal to become around 70-80.
Other example: turtles can get a few hundred years old... how long have turtles been around? It said they allready excisted when the dinosaurs roamed the earth.
Its also just possible we wont evolve being able to get much older but that technology will have to be our key to long life....
just an idea here ^^

in the past (prehistory) people didnt get much older than 50 usually, nowadays its normal to become around 70-80.

This is due to science and technology and better living conditions, not evolution. Check out the life expectancy of a wealthy country with good working conditions and a good health scheme and then compare it to a poverty-stricken third world country.

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in the past (prehistory) people didnt get much older than 50 usually, nowadays its normal to become around 70-80.

This is due to science and technology and better living conditions, not evolution. Check out the life expectancy of a wealthy country with good working conditions and a good health scheme and then compare it to a poverty-stricken third world country.

yeah but in the prehistory there were no differences in wealth.. were there?