why do flat earthers ignore this

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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2018, 06:00:41 PM »
Why not? You are the only person here who seems to have an interest in the matter.
Are you saying that FE'ers have no interest in figuring out how weather on the flat earth works?  ???
I'd say it's more like "FE'ers have no interest in figuring out how . . . .  the flat earth" doesn't "work?"
And I believe the answer is in here Why are there still skeptics about the moon landings?.
The title implies it's about lunar landings, but it is far more general than that.
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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2018, 06:25:46 PM »
Why not? You are the only person here who seems to have an interest in the matter.
Are you saying that FE'ers have no interest in figuring out how weather on the flat earth works?  ???

We've already discussed these topics over many years. My contribution is done. Why should we need to hang around here and answer the same questions and have the same discussions again and again?
Then what are you doing in this thread?  If the question is settled in your mind, then write up your answer in the FAQ and/or Wiki, supply the appropriate link and quit your whining.  Or, if you're tired of having the same discussion over and over again, then feel free to not participate in the discussion.
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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2018, 02:08:39 AM »
Why not? You are the only person here who seems to have an interest in the matter.
Are you saying that FE'ers have no interest in figuring out how weather on the flat earth works?  ???

We've already discussed these topics over many years. My contribution is done. Why should we need to hang around here and answer the same questions and have the same discussions again and again?

If you and rabinoz have an interest in these topics, then the responsibility is solely on you guys to discuss among yourselves the topic and its possibilities. There are no "FE'ers" to talk to or debate against. The forum's implication that you are coming here to talk to Flat Earthers is false. We are not interested in having the same conversation over and over and over and over.

We are not at all interested in having a conversation with you, any more than we are interested in teaching computer science to a homeless person.

And if that homeless person could point out a very simple set of facts, predictable, verifiable and repeatable that showed that your knowledge of computers contained a deep misunderstanding?

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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2018, 03:42:06 AM »
Why not? You are the only person here who seems to have an interest in the matter.
Are you saying that FE'ers have no interest in figuring out how weather on the flat earth works?  ???

We've already discussed these topics over many years. My contribution is done. Why should we need to hang around here and answer the same questions and have the same discussions again and again?

If you and rabinoz have an interest in these topics, then the responsibility is solely on you guys to discuss among yourselves the topic and its possibilities. There are no "FE'ers" to talk to or debate against. The forum's implication that you are coming here to talk to Flat Earthers is false. We are not interested in having the same conversation over and over and over and over.

We are not at all interested in having a conversation with you, any more than we are interested in teaching computer science to a homeless person.
I think the situation is that flat earthers in general and you in particular simply ignore evidence against the flat earth that cannot be debunked.
The Coriolis effect and the related Eötvös effect seem be such evidence that you and other flat earthers simply chose to ignore.

That might not bother you or other flat earthers, but some of the 77 guests on the site might think it significant.

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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2018, 07:19:55 AM »

That might not bother you or other flat earthers, but some of the 77 guests on the site might think it significant.

Yeah, the search engine spiders are very impressed with your formatting skills.
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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2018, 07:55:12 AM »

That might not bother you or other flat earthers, but some of the 77 guests on the site might think it significant.

Yeah, the search engine spiders are very impressed with your formatting skills.
Rabinoz the copypaste wizard is doing it all to protect the intellectual inheritance of mankind derived from the ancient Greeks and is strongly motivated to teach the co readers of these forums a thing or two about the globe, just in case one accidentally falls in the abyss of 'flatearth ' ... ;D  ;D ;D

As if he really cared about what  77 'guests' think about earth and it's shape.
His little mantra has become long in the tooth, but it doesn't matter in the world of the copypaste wizard from down under.... he will procede with his everlasting attempts.

Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2018, 12:10:03 PM »

That might not bother you or other flat earthers, but some of the 77 guests on the site might think it significant.

Yeah, the search engine spiders are very impressed with your formatting skills.
Rabinoz the copypaste wizard is doing it all to protect the intellectual inheritance of mankind derived from the ancient Greeks and is strongly motivated to teach the co readers of these forums a thing or two about the globe, just in case one accidentally falls in the abyss of 'flatearth ' ... ;D  ;D ;D



As if he really cared about what  77 'guests' think about earth and it's shape.
His little mantra has become long in the tooth, but it doesn't matter in the world of the copypaste wizard from down under.... he will procede with his everlasting attempts.

So, does that mean you agree with wind direction around highs and lows, as predicted and repeatedly verified?
Or that you disagree?
Or that you don’t care?
« Last Edit: June 02, 2018, 12:13:32 PM by Didymus »

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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2018, 12:20:09 PM »
explain how hurricanes always spin counter-clockwise and in the northern hemisphere, and spin clockwise in the southern hemisphere, and also never cross the equator. how do you explain the Coriolis effect on a flat earth. if u cant answer this validly than why do you believe the earth is flat

Large formations like hurricanes simply begin to manifest signs of the Machian effects of the cosmos above them.
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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #38 on: June 02, 2018, 12:23:47 PM »
explain how hurricanes always spin counter-clockwise and in the northern hemisphere, and spin clockwise in the southern hemisphere, and also never cross the equator. how do you explain the Coriolis effect on a flat earth. if u cant answer this validly than why do you believe the earth is flat

Large formations like hurricanes simply begin to manifest signs of the Machian effects of the cosmos above them.
In that either side of the equator, the response is inverse. Am I undestanding you correctly?

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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #39 on: June 02, 2018, 12:47:49 PM »
I can't speak to your understanding, but an observer in terra australis facing the celestial pole see the heavens progress about the pole clockwise. Similarly, an observer at northern latitudes sees the heavens progress about the celestial pole in a counter-clockwise manner.
So then working within the principle of Machian observation, the motion of the heavens has inertial effects on the observer.
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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #40 on: June 02, 2018, 01:22:04 PM »

So then working within the principle of Machian observation, the motion of the heavens has inertial effects on the observer.

Please clarify this obtuse sentence.
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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #41 on: June 02, 2018, 01:37:59 PM »
Inertia has meaning only in relation to something else. It arises from the "else".
"Never think you can turn over any old falsehood without a terrible squirming of the horrid little population that dwells under it." -O.W. Holmes "Truth forever on the scaffold, Wrong forever on the throne.."

Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #42 on: June 02, 2018, 02:22:27 PM »
I can't speak to your understanding, but an observer in terra australis facing the celestial pole see the heavens progress about the pole clockwise. Similarly, an observer at northern latitudes sees the heavens progress about the celestial pole in a counter-clockwise manner.
So then working within the principle of Machian observation, the motion of the heavens has inertial effects on the observer.
On a disc?

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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #43 on: June 02, 2018, 02:32:17 PM »
Are you aware of an observation that differs? Can you cite it?
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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #44 on: June 02, 2018, 03:00:21 PM »
Are you aware of an observation that differs? Can you cite it?
Well,we are having a bit of a walk in the woods here, but it seems like you are using one of my arguments against your premis as your argument against mine...

Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #45 on: June 02, 2018, 05:54:15 PM »
Why not? You are the only person here who seems to have an interest in the matter.
Are you saying that FE'ers have no interest in figuring out how weather on the flat earth works?  ???

We've already discussed these topics over many years. My contribution is done. Why should we need to hang around here and answer the same questions and have the same discussions again and again?

If you and rabinoz have an interest in these topics, then the responsibility is solely on you guys to discuss among yourselves the topic and its possibilities. There are no "FE'ers" to talk to or debate against. The forum's implication that you are coming here to talk to Flat Earthers is false. We are not interested in having the same conversation over and over and over and over.

We are not at all interested in having a conversation with you, any more than we are interested in teaching computer science to a homeless person.

Why would you not want to teach computer science to a homeless person?  Maybe you could help them better their lives.  Also, how is that an even remotely relevant comparison.

The interest is in hearing flat earthers come up with a rational or realistic explanation for the real world events that occur.  Just because you have sat around pretending to discuss the topic for years, you have not actually ever said anything.  You still aren't saying anything.  You are simply trying to disguise your retreat as a lack of interest.

The round earth explanation seems to work perfectly, every time. There has yet to ever even be an actual identifiable flat earth explanation for this other than off the wall speculations based on complete bullshit.

Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #46 on: June 02, 2018, 05:55:27 PM »

That might not bother you or other flat earthers, but some of the 77 guests on the site might think it significant.

Yeah, the search engine spiders are very impressed with your formatting skills.

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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2018, 05:57:46 PM »

That might not bother you or other flat earthers, but some of the 77 guests on the site might think it significant.

Yeah, the search engine spiders are very impressed with your formatting skills.
Rabinoz the copypaste wizard is doing it all to protect the intellectual inheritance of mankind derived from the ancient Greeks and is strongly motivated to teach the co readers of these forums a thing or two about the globe, just in case one accidentally falls in the abyss of 'flatearth ' ... ;D  ;D ;D

As if he really cared about what  77 'guests' think about earth and it's shape.
His little mantra has become long in the tooth, but it doesn't matter in the world of the copypaste wizard from down under.... he will procede with his everlasting attempts.

Why don't you explain how the information is incorrect, copy/paste or not instead of trying to find irrelevant reasons to hide from the truth?

At the end of the day, the earth is still round and you are on the wrong side of sanity.

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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2018, 07:36:42 PM »

That might not bother you or other flat earthers, but some of the 77 guests on the site might think it significant.

Yeah, the search engine spiders are very impressed with your formatting skills.
Such as?

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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #49 on: June 02, 2018, 07:47:16 PM »

That might not bother you or other flat earthers, but some of the 77 guests on the site might think it significant.

Yeah, the search engine spiders are very impressed with your formatting skills.
Rabinoz the copypaste wizard is doing it all to protect the intellectual inheritance of mankind derived from the ancient Greeks and is strongly motivated to teach the co readers of these forums a thing or two about the globe, just in case one accidentally falls in the abyss of 'flatearth ' ... ;D  ;D ;D

As if he really cared about what  77 'guests' think about earth and it's shape.
His little mantra has become long in the tooth, but it doesn't matter in the world of the copypaste wizard from down under.... he will procede with his everlasting attempts.
In other words, you have no answers to the topic, which happens to be:

"Re: why do flat earthers ignore this"
explain how hurricanes always spin counter-clockwise and in the northern hemisphere, and spin clockwise in the southern hemisphere, and also never cross the equator. how do you explain the Coriolis effect on a flat earth. if u cant answer this validly than why do you believe the earth is flat
Maybe you have an answer to this:
Even when it comes to the ordinary weather patterns of Highs and Lows, something causes the four distinct situations observed for High and Low Pressure Weather systems,
These include the intense lows, Hurricanes, Typhoons and Cyclones, in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres.
     
Northern Hemisphere
     
Southern Hemisphere
Highs
     
Clockwise
     
Anti-clockwise
Lows
     
Anti-clockwise
     
Clockwise
Just look at weather maps that show highs, lows and wind directions to verify this for yourself.
So, Dutchy, what about ceasing the attack on people and start posting answers?

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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #50 on: June 02, 2018, 08:25:23 PM »
Inertia has meaning only in relation to something else. It arises from the "else".
According to who's well justified theory? From what I have read the claim that
"Inertia has meaning only in relation to something else" is something the Einstein discarded in his development of General Relativity.
You might read (again, I hope) Einstein's Pathway to General Relativity, John D. Norton, especially the Relativity of Inertia ("Mach's Principle").
Remember that "Mach's Principle" was just a conjecture, never a theory supported by evidence.
And on a more philosophical note, This Is Why Understanding Space Is So Hard, POSTED BY DAN FALK ON JAN 05, 2018

Of course if you have evidence in support of "Mach's Principle" you are obviously free to present it.

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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #51 on: June 02, 2018, 08:36:16 PM »
Are you suggesting the existence of a preferred or absolute frame?
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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #52 on: June 03, 2018, 01:32:18 AM »
Are you suggesting the existence of a preferred or absolute frame?
No more than you are suggesting that the shape of the water in two buckets rotating in opposite directions can both be due to the motion of the whole universe and not the direction of rotation of the individual buckets - Newton's bucket 'thought experiment'.
Einstein in his development of GR would have like his theory to follow Mach's principle but realised it was not possible.

As far as I am concerned uniform linear motion is completely relative, but accelerated motion, including rotational motion is not relative.
Imagine a person in a box with no outside communication, but with instruments of sufficient accuracy and sensitivity.
 ;) Newton's water buckets might suffice in extreme cases - see where the water goes. ;)
I would contend that:
  • This person could not measure uniform linear motion in any direction - regard uniform linear motion as along a geodesic in curved if you must.

  • This person could determine that the box accelerating linearly by finding the acceleration uniform at all locations within the box.

  • This person could determine that the box rotating by finding the acceleration non-uniform at all locations within the box.
With the proviso that the accelerations could be due to gravitational fields.

Now I do not claim to be a physicist and the question of whether rotation can be absolute of not still seems vex physicists.
But the concensus seems to be that in from any practical point of view, it must be.
You might read, Quora.com, Why is linear motion relative but rotation absolute, particularly the answer by Vesselin Petkov, though there are more or less contrary answers.
Here is another, though it's outside my "expertise", Doesn't Einstein's General Relativity violate the spirit of Principle of Relativity?

On different FE models, we have you arguing for the relativity of everything and sandokhan that Sagnac-like devices can measure absolute velocity - sure makes life interesting.

And I have yet to see any post of yours answering the topic other than:
Large formations like hurricanes simply begin to manifest signs of the Machian effects of the cosmos above them.
This does not even begin to explain the four distinct situations seen on any weather map of the mid-latitudes.
Even when it comes to the ordinary weather patterns of Highs and Lows, something causes the four distinct situations observed for High and Low Pressure Weather systems,
These include the intense lows, Hurricanes, Typhoons and Cyclones, in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres.
     
Northern Hemisphere
     
Southern Hemisphere
Highs
     
Clockwise
     
Anti-clockwise
Lows
     
Anti-clockwise
     
Clockwise
Just look at weather maps that show highs, lows and wind directions to verify this for yourself.


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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #53 on: June 03, 2018, 03:19:45 AM »
Now I do not claim to be a physicist
Your rare selfknowledge is appreciated  ;)
What about answering the content of posts once in a while instead of your usual useless personal comments?

I'm getting tired of ;) copy-n-pasting ;) this but maybe you can offer a good answer for this on a flat earth.
Even when it comes to the ordinary weather patterns of Highs and Lows, something causes the four distinct situations observed for High and Low Pressure Weather systems,
These include the intense lows, Hurricanes, Typhoons and Cyclones, in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres.
     
Northern Hemisphere
     
Southern Hemisphere
Highs
     
Clockwise
     
Anti-clockwise
Lows
     
Anti-clockwise
     
Clockwise
Just look at weather maps that show highs, lows and wind directions to verify this for yourself.

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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #54 on: June 03, 2018, 08:40:11 AM »
Why would the Machian mechanism for the exhibition of what you call the coriolis effect result in different weather or its manifestations be any different than your explanation?

Also, re: "accelerated motion, including rotational motion is not relative."
Acceleration can never cease to be frame-dependent because it involves time.
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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #55 on: June 03, 2018, 10:59:41 AM »
Now I do not claim to be a physicist
Your rare selfknowledge is appreciated  ;)
What about answering the content of posts once in a while instead of your usual useless personal comments?

I'm getting tired of ;) copy-n-pasting ;) this but maybe you can offer a good answer for this on a flat earth.
Even when it comes to the ordinary weather patterns of Highs and Lows, something causes the four distinct situations observed for High and Low Pressure Weather systems,
These include the intense lows, Hurricanes, Typhoons and Cyclones, in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres.
     
Northern Hemisphere
     
Southern Hemisphere
Highs
     
Clockwise
     
Anti-clockwise
Lows
     
Anti-clockwise
     
Clockwise
Just look at weather maps that show highs, lows and wind directions to verify this for yourself.
You are a copy paste wizard and for the coming years i will remind you of it as long as this forum will be of interrest to me personally.

'Your' shitty group of copy pasters about everything concerning the globe have claimed that the coriolis effect was ALSO appearent in a kitchen sink in the southern hemisphere.
It was even claimed in a BBC docu which showed a Kenyan charlatan crossing the equator to demonstrate that a leaf in a small bath would move counterclockwise the moment we cross the equator.

Till now we have never heard an official statement about such misleading info and groce exagerations used for decades by the likes of 'you' and other spinning globe promoters.

But you changed the goalpost towards much larger bodies of water, like a hurricane to claim your absurd coriolis effect.
No shame whatsoever about what was so strongly claimed about counterclock drainage in kitchen sinks in the Southern Hemisphere not that long ago by many official authorities like the BBC.

You are not making up the rules over here, you really should do some introspection after all claims about the coriolis effects a decade ago that have been proven to be utter nonsense.......
« Last Edit: June 03, 2018, 11:01:27 AM by dutchy »

Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #56 on: June 03, 2018, 11:54:34 AM »
Now I do not claim to be a physicist
Your rare selfknowledge is appreciated  ;)
What about answering the content of posts once in a while instead of your usual useless personal comments?

I'm getting tired of ;) copy-n-pasting ;) this but maybe you can offer a good answer for this on a flat earth.
Even when it comes to the ordinary weather patterns of Highs and Lows, something causes the four distinct situations observed for High and Low Pressure Weather systems,
These include the intense lows, Hurricanes, Typhoons and Cyclones, in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres.
     
Northern Hemisphere
     
Southern Hemisphere
Highs
     
Clockwise
     
Anti-clockwise
Lows
     
Anti-clockwise
     
Clockwise
Just look at weather maps that show highs, lows and wind directions to verify this for yourself.
You are a copy paste wizard and for the coming years i will remind you of it as long as this forum will be of interrest to me personally.

'Your' shitty group of copy pasters about everything concerning the globe have claimed that the coriolis effect was ALSO appearent in a kitchen sink in the southern hemisphere.
It was even claimed in a BBC docu which showed a Kenyan charlatan crossing the equator to demonstrate that a leaf in a small bath would move counterclockwise the moment we cross the equator.

Till now we have never heard an official statement about such misleading info and groce exagerations used for decades by the likes of 'you' and other spinning globe promoters.

But you changed the goalpost towards much larger bodies of water, like a hurricane to claim your absurd coriolis effect.
No shame whatsoever about what was so strongly claimed about counterclock drainage in kitchen sinks in the Southern Hemisphere not that long ago by many official authorities like the BBC.

You are not making up the rules over here, you really should do some introspection after all claims about the coriolis effects a decade ago that have been proven to be utter nonsense.......
You can't hold me responsible for some prime time TV entertainment any more than I can hold you responsible for Freddie Flintoff.
“I don't undertand why, when I jump in the air, the Earth doesn't whizz by me at 900mph..” 

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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #57 on: June 03, 2018, 02:45:12 PM »
Now I do not claim to be a physicist
Your rare selfknowledge is appreciated  ;)
What about answering the content of posts once in a while instead of your usual useless personal comments?

I'm getting tired of ;) copy-n-pasting ;) this but maybe you can offer a good answer for this on a flat earth.
Even when it comes to the ordinary weather patterns of Highs and Lows, something causes the four distinct situations observed for High and Low Pressure Weather systems,
These include the intense lows, Hurricanes, Typhoons and Cyclones, in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres.
     
Northern Hemisphere
     
Southern Hemisphere
Highs
     
Clockwise
     
Anti-clockwise
Lows
     
Anti-clockwise
     
Clockwise
Just look at weather maps that show highs, lows and wind directions to verify this for yourself.
You are a copy paste wizard and for the coming years i will remind you of it as long as this forum will be of interrest to me personally.

'Your' shitty group of copy pasters about everything concerning the globe have claimed that the coriolis effect was ALSO appearent in a kitchen sink in the southern hemisphere.
It was even claimed in a BBC docu which showed a Kenyan charlatan crossing the equator to demonstrate that a leaf in a small bath would move counterclockwise the moment we cross the equator.

Till now we have never heard an official statement about such misleading info and groce exagerations used for decades by the likes of 'you' and other spinning globe promoters.

But you changed the goalpost towards much larger bodies of water, like a hurricane to claim your absurd coriolis effect.
No shame whatsoever about what was so strongly claimed about counterclock drainage in kitchen sinks in the Southern Hemisphere not that long ago by many official authorities like the BBC.

You are not making up the rules over here, you really should do some introspection after all claims about the coriolis effects a decade ago that have been proven to be utter nonsense.......
You can't hold me responsible for some prime time TV entertainment any more than I can hold you responsible for Freddie Flintoff.
“I don't undertand why, when I jump in the air, the Earth doesn't whizz by me at 900mph..”
If it wasn't for the awakening of flatearth among others , the coriolis effect in kitchensinks seen in a counterclockwise rotating manner in the Southern hemisphere, would be considered a valuable cornerstone underneath the coriolis dogma.

So why do you try to make it sound as if only some entertainment show made the occasional error of 'kitchen sinks + coriolis effect' ?
It was much more than that, but like so often the 'upgraded' version of the 'coriolis effect' assumes it was well understood and never claimed ( coriolis effect on a small scale like a kitchen sink) all alomg.

Like with the moonlandings and observable curvature from modest heights the pattern of updating older errors and misconceptions by simply denying this inconvinient truth seems to work !
Claiming that anyone with enough knowledge would never claim such nonsense and ridicule those still pointing out the errors of the past...... works above expectation, because people tend to have a short memory.


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Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #58 on: June 03, 2018, 07:00:37 PM »
I'm getting tired of ;) copy-n-pasting ;) this but maybe you can offer a good answer for this on a flat earth.
Even when it comes to the ordinary weather patterns of Highs and Lows, something causes the four distinct situations observed for High and Low Pressure Weather systems
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'Your' shitty group of copy pasters about everything concerning the globe have claimed that the coriolis effect was ALSO appearent in a kitchen sink in the southern hemisphere.
It was even claimed in a BBC docu which showed a Kenyan charlatan crossing the equator to demonstrate that a leaf in a small bath would move counterclockwise the moment we cross the equator.
I have never made any claims that the "coriolis effect was ALSO appearent in a kitchen sink". If you get your education from flat-earth YouTube videos that's your problem, not mine!

Quote from: dutchy
But you changed the goalpost towards much larger bodies of water, like a hurricane to claim your absurd coriolis effect.
I have changed no goal-posts! I have claimed all along that the Coriolis effect is the reason that
  • Hurricanes and other LOWS rotate counter-clockwise in Northern Hemisphere and
  • Cyclones and other LOWS rotate clockwise in Southern Hemisphere

My earliest posts on the Coriolis effect were on its tiny effect on the path of bullets but here, right back in January 2016 is my first in this topic!
The OP video is just a cheap tourist trick. The water was still swirling as soon as he put the flower in the bowl. The divider never stopped the water.
Who's arguing?  Nobody is disputing that "video is just a cheap tourist trick"!

Most have been saying that Coriolis is a subtle effect only obvious on a large scale such as rotating air masses.

Have you noticed that "Highs" rotate clockwise in the Northern Hemisphere and anticlockwise in the Southern Hemisphere, "Lows" do just the opposite - look at any weather map.  You don't need hurricanes or cyclones to show this!
Quote from: dutchy
No shame whatsoever about what was so strongly claimed about counterclock drainage in kitchen sinks in the Southern Hemisphere not that long ago by many official authorities like the BBC.
The BBC is not an "authority", just a media outlet aiming to garner an audience. And what the BBC present has nothing to do with me - I don't live in the UK.
If you get you "Globe Science" from this sort of thing it's not wonder you have no idea about it!

Pole To Pole - Crossing The Line with Michael Palin

Now stop your incessant and ignorant attack on people and start some debate on real flat-earth vs. Globe earth issues.

So please give a flat earth explanation for the four distinct situations observed for High and Low Pressure Weather systems,
These include the intense lows, Hurricanes, Typhoons and Cyclones, in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres.
     
Northern Hemisphere
     
Southern Hemisphere
Highs
     
Clockwise
     
Anti-clockwise
Lows
     
Anti-clockwise
     
Clockwise
Or admit that neither you nor other flat earthers have a clue on this everyday observation!

Re: why do flat earthers ignore this
« Reply #59 on: June 15, 2018, 12:44:53 PM »
Inertia has meaning only in relation to something else. It arises from the "else".

Inertia cannot be relative to an observer, it has to be relative to an applied force.
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