Van Allen radiation belt

Indoctrination confirmed!

What's the difference between indoctrination and education?

Incidentally, it’s a bit weird they reused the Orion name.

I alway associate it with the slightly mad 50s/60s concept for a spaceship that dropped nukes behind it for propulsion:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion)

Why do you consider it weird?  To some, it might be weirder the Manhattan Project appears to have been named after a city in New York?  In any event, I think we have established that there are no plans to fire a rocket toward the constellation Orion.     

In any event, I think we have established that there are no plans to fire a rocket toward the constellation Orion. 

I don't think that anyone said that there were any such plans.

Quote from: Really on May 31, 2018, 10:52:29 AM

In any event, I think we have established that there are no plans to fire a rocket toward the constellation Orion. 

I don't think that anyone said that there were any such plans.

To me, and perhaps I interpreted it incorrectly but, message reply #58 suggested that the respondent was implying that NASA was planning a mission.  Again, I could be mistaken but, that is where the idea of a "plan" originated.  If I am mistaken, no problem.  I will stand corrected.  In any event, the name Orion is not a mission... it is the name of a spacecraft.

To me, and perhaps I interpreted it incorrectly but, message reply #58 suggested that the respondent was implying that NASA was planning a mission.  Again, I could be mistaken but, that is where the idea of a "plan" originated.  If I am mistaken, no problem.  I will stand corrected.  In any event, the name Orion is not a mission... it is the name of a spacecraft.

Ummm, that's the name of the spacecraft... not a chartered mission to a massive constellation. 

You know... I will admit that I've worked for a number of organisations and never once bothered to read about their history.  For instance, IBM... what they are today as compared to what they were in their first few years... yeah nah... far cry between the two.  So yeah, call that a personality flaw in me.  I could rightly give a f*ckall about a lot of that crap because many of the 100 year old organisations do not hold to the same values they once did.  That became evident to me when Exxon dumped it's "old" employees with an early retirement scheme.  Since then, company loyalty took a nose dive so, I don't care about hearing their BS history.

What I do know though is this; each and every one of the organisations I worked for paid me handsomely for what I do.  That's probably the reason I can be a condescending, asshat toward you because I know you are ignorant and I could probably guess that you don't have 2 nickels to rub together.  So yeah... you can call that a personality flaw also. 

Quote from: Badxtoss on May 31, 2018, 07:28:39 AM

Quote from: totallackey on May 31, 2018, 04:34:15 AM

Quote from: Teslaite on May 31, 2018, 12:43:02 AM

Ironically a couple of minutes reading reveals that the Van Allen belts don't preclude safe space travel. At the mission planning stage much of the risk can be avoided and exposure time can be limited. A quick look at the figures and the Apollo astronauts complete single mission exposure was something like 10-20% of a years worth of background radiation here on Earth.

I shall watch this thread with interest.

This is all pure garbage.

If it was simply mission planning then NASA would go straight ahead with Orion to appease all of you sci-fi nuts...

You guys and your "religion," are really mental...

It's simply a question of money. You guys, with rabid beliefs and zero evidence to support them are closer to religious than the science guys who have mountains of evidence to support their positions.

The funny thing about the "going to Orion" is, Orion is a constellation.  I don't believe there are any planets in Orion though 

Again, a supposed NASA employee shown for being highly disingenuous and deceitful.

Quote from: Really on May 31, 2018, 01:14:07 PM

To me, and perhaps I interpreted it incorrectly but, message reply #58 suggested that the respondent was implying that NASA was planning a mission.  Again, I could be mistaken but, that is where the idea of a "plan" originated.  If I am mistaken, no problem.  I will stand corrected.  In any event, the name Orion is not a mission... it is the name of a spacecraft.

Quote from: Really on May 31, 2018, 10:34:41 AM

Ummm, that's the name of the spacecraft... not a chartered mission to a massive constellation. 

Quote from: Really on May 31, 2018, 08:20:02 AM

You know... I will admit that I've worked for a number of organisations and never once bothered to read about their history.  For instance, IBM... what they are today as compared to what they were in their first few years... yeah nah... far cry between the two.  So yeah, call that a personality flaw in me.  I could rightly give a f*ckall about a lot of that crap because many of the 100 year old organisations do not hold to the same values they once did.  That became evident to me when Exxon dumped it's "old" employees with an early retirement scheme.  Since then, company loyalty took a nose dive so, I don't care about hearing their BS history.

What I do know though is this; each and every one of the organisations I worked for paid me handsomely for what I do.  That's probably the reason I can be a condescending, asshat toward you because I know you are ignorant and I could probably guess that you don't have 2 nickels to rub together.  So yeah... you can call that a personality flaw also. 

Quote from: Really on May 31, 2018, 07:35:55 AM

Quote from: Badxtoss on May 31, 2018, 07:28:39 AM

Quote from: totallackey on May 31, 2018, 04:34:15 AM

Quote from: Teslaite on May 31, 2018, 12:43:02 AM

Ironically a couple of minutes reading reveals that the Van Allen belts don't preclude safe space travel. At the mission planning stage much of the risk can be avoided and exposure time can be limited. A quick look at the figures and the Apollo astronauts complete single mission exposure was something like 10-20% of a years worth of background radiation here on Earth.

I shall watch this thread with interest.

This is all pure garbage.

If it was simply mission planning then NASA would go straight ahead with Orion to appease all of you sci-fi nuts...

You guys and your "religion," are really mental...

It's simply a question of money. You guys, with rabid beliefs and zero evidence to support them are closer to religious than the science guys who have mountains of evidence to support their positions.

The funny thing about the "going to Orion" is, Orion is a constellation.  I don't believe there are any planets in Orion though 

Again, a supposed NASA employee shown for being highly disingenuous and deceitful.

Once again nothing you said is true.

Once again nothing you said is true.

Please demonstrate where I said anything, short bus...

Quote from: Badxtoss on June 04, 2018, 06:33:04 AM

Once again nothing you said is true.

Please demonstrate where I said anything, short bus...

My bad, I assumed you read what you posted.

Quote from: totallackey on June 04, 2018, 08:33:33 AM

Quote from: Badxtoss on June 04, 2018, 06:33:04 AM

Once again nothing you said is true.

Please demonstrate where I said anything, short bus...

My bad, I assumed you read what you posted.

Your bad...

I assume you read what you say, rather than listen?

Quote from: Badxtoss on June 04, 2018, 08:41:10 AM

Quote from: totallackey on June 04, 2018, 08:33:33 AM

Quote from: Badxtoss on June 04, 2018, 06:33:04 AM

Once again nothing you said is true.

Please demonstrate where I said anything, short bus...

My bad, I assumed you read what you posted.

Your bad...

I assume you read what you say, rather than listen?

That made no sense at all. Par for the course

Quote from: Badxtoss on June 04, 2018, 06:33:04 AM

Once again nothing you said is true.

Please demonstrate where I said anything, short bus...

Good point.  You do seem to write an awful lot without actually saying anything.

I want the answers to this thread... Please FE's reply without telling me to google it, exactly what the VA Belts and Auroras are and how they work in the FE model?