Van Allen radiation belt

Quote from: Teslaite on May 31, 2018, 12:43:02 AM

Ironically a couple of minutes reading reveals that the Van Allen belts don't preclude safe space travel. At the mission planning stage much of the risk can be avoided and exposure time can be limited. A quick look at the figures and the Apollo astronauts complete single mission exposure was something like 10-20% of a years worth of background radiation here on Earth.

I shall watch this thread with interest.

This is all pure garbage.

If it was simply mission planning then NASA would go straight ahead with Orion to appease all of you sci-fi nuts...

You guys and your "religion," are really mental...

It's simply a question of money. You guys, with rabid beliefs and zero evidence to support them are closer to religious than the science guys who have mountains of evidence to support their positions.

Quote from: totallackey on May 31, 2018, 05:01:09 AM

Quote from: Really on May 31, 2018, 04:40:47 AM

If the VH belts exist, the only way FE knows about them is because NASA said told them     FEs are cherry-picking which information to believe in and which information to discard.  But.. let's move on to the auroras at the North and South pole.  How do they work on a flat earth?

Why would NASA be the only way?

How would you even know that the Van Allen belts existed were it for James Van Allen and his team placing a Geiger counter and an altimeter on Explorer I, the first American satellite, to take radiation readings at different heights?

Technically NASA was not created until Oct. 1, 1958, but Van Allen and that team were part of what became NASA.
Read a bit more in Van Allen Probes, A Short History of Earth's Radiation Belts.
All people know came from satellites and sounding rockets launched by NASA other space agencies.

NASA did not even exist at the time of their supposed discovery.

Measured (supposedly) at one to three points by supposedly three different probes on three different launches in 1958, prior to the existence of NASA...

You guys are so disingenuous it defies belief.

It's simply a question of money. You guys, with rabid beliefs and zero evidence to support them are closer to religious than the science guys who have mountains of FICTION to support their positions.

FTFY.

Quote from: totallackey on May 31, 2018, 04:34:15 AM

Quote from: Teslaite on May 31, 2018, 12:43:02 AM

Ironically a couple of minutes reading reveals that the Van Allen belts don't preclude safe space travel. At the mission planning stage much of the risk can be avoided and exposure time can be limited. A quick look at the figures and the Apollo astronauts complete single mission exposure was something like 10-20% of a years worth of background radiation here on Earth.

I shall watch this thread with interest.

This is all pure garbage.

If it was simply mission planning then NASA would go straight ahead with Orion to appease all of you sci-fi nuts...

You guys and your "religion," are really mental...

It's simply a question of money. You guys, with rabid beliefs and zero evidence to support them are closer to religious than the science guys who have mountains of evidence to support their positions.

The funny thing about the "going to Orion" is, Orion is a constellation.  I don't believe there are any planets in Orion though 

WTF does a compass have to do with the Aurora Borealis or the Aurora Australis and how they work on a flat earth?

Again... a complete let-down.  Yet another FE cannot explain how something works.  Instead, you point me to Google.  Hahahahahahaha!

You wrote "magnetic field."

A compass is all about magnetism.

Quote from: rabinoz on May 31, 2018, 05:24:55 AM

Quote from: totallackey on May 31, 2018, 05:01:09 AM

Quote from: Really on May 31, 2018, 04:40:47 AM

If the VH belts exist, the only way FE knows about them is because NASA said told them     FEs are cherry-picking which information to believe in and which information to discard.  But.. let's move on to the auroras at the North and South pole.  How do they work on a flat earth?

Why would NASA be the only way?

How would you even know that the Van Allen belts existed were it for James Van Allen and his team placing a Geiger counter and an altimeter on Explorer I, the first American satellite, to take radiation readings at different heights?

Technically NASA was not created until Oct. 1, 1958, but Van Allen and that team were part of what became NASA.
Read a bit more in Van Allen Probes, A Short History of Earth's Radiation Belts.
All people know came from satellites and sounding rockets launched by NASA other space agencies.

NASA did not even exist at the time of their supposed discovery.

Measured (supposedly) at one to three points by supposedly three different probes on three different launches in 1958, prior to the existence of NASA...

You guys are so disingenuous it defies belief.

Oh?  Who launched those probes?    Cite your sources, genius.

Quote from: Really on May 31, 2018, 05:19:00 AM

WTF does a compass have to do with the Aurora Borealis or the Aurora Australis and how they work on a flat earth?

Again... a complete let-down.  Yet another FE cannot explain how something works.  Instead, you point me to Google.  Hahahahahahaha!

You wrote "magnetic field."

A compass is all about magnetism.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...    If you're not going to read, at least go look at the pictures of the VH belts     HAHAHAHAHAHA  Doofus.. My God.

Quote from: totallackey on May 31, 2018, 07:34:05 AM

Quote from: rabinoz on May 31, 2018, 05:24:55 AM

Quote from: totallackey on May 31, 2018, 05:01:09 AM

Quote from: Really on May 31, 2018, 04:40:47 AM

If the VH belts exist, the only way FE knows about them is because NASA said told them     FEs are cherry-picking which information to believe in and which information to discard.  But.. let's move on to the auroras at the North and South pole.  How do they work on a flat earth?

Why would NASA be the only way?

How would you even know that the Van Allen belts existed were it for James Van Allen and his team placing a Geiger counter and an altimeter on Explorer I, the first American satellite, to take radiation readings at different heights?

Technically NASA was not created until Oct. 1, 1958, but Van Allen and that team were part of what became NASA.
Read a bit more in Van Allen Probes, A Short History of Earth's Radiation Belts.
All people know came from satellites and sounding rockets launched by NASA other space agencies.

NASA did not even exist at the time of their supposed discovery.

Measured (supposedly) at one to three points by supposedly three different probes on three different launches in 1958, prior to the existence of NASA...

You guys are so disingenuous it defies belief.

Oh?  Who launched those probes?    Cite your sources, genius.

It was not NASA you asshat...

CLAIMS HE WORKED FOR NASA and does not know the basics.

Liar....

Quote from: Really on May 31, 2018, 05:19:00 AM

WTF does a compass have to do with the Aurora Borealis or the Aurora Australis and how they work on a flat earth?

Again... a complete let-down.  Yet another FE cannot explain how something works.  Instead, you point me to Google.  Hahahahahahaha!

You wrote "magnetic field."

A compass is all about magnetism.

You must be a tradesman or simply work at McDonalds.     You can't possibly be that ignorant.  I refuse to accept that anyone is that uneducated.

It was not NASA you asshat...

"Who was it then?", my slack-jawed friend.

Quote from: totallackey on May 31, 2018, 07:37:39 AM

Quote from: Really on May 31, 2018, 05:19:00 AM

WTF does a compass have to do with the Aurora Borealis or the Aurora Australis and how they work on a flat earth?

Again... a complete let-down.  Yet another FE cannot explain how something works.  Instead, you point me to Google.  Hahahahahahaha!

You wrote "magnetic field."

A compass is all about magnetism.

You must be a tradesman or simply work at McDonalds.     You can't possibly be that ignorant.  I refuse to accept that anyone is that uneducated.

Must be tough living inside your own uneducated head then...

What a dipshit!

It was not NASA you asshat...

CLAIMS HE WORKED FOR NASA and does not know the basics.

Liar....

Yeah... I did indeed.  But... how would you even know what the basics are?  It's evident from your communications that you would have difficulty making a cheese sandwich.

Quote from: Badxtoss on May 31, 2018, 07:28:39 AM

Quote from: totallackey on May 31, 2018, 04:34:15 AM

Quote from: Teslaite on May 31, 2018, 12:43:02 AM

Ironically a couple of minutes reading reveals that the Van Allen belts don't preclude safe space travel. At the mission planning stage much of the risk can be avoided and exposure time can be limited. A quick look at the figures and the Apollo astronauts complete single mission exposure was something like 10-20% of a years worth of background radiation here on Earth.

I shall watch this thread with interest.

This is all pure garbage.

If it was simply mission planning then NASA would go straight ahead with Orion to appease all of you sci-fi nuts...

You guys and your "religion," are really mental...

It's simply a question of money. You guys, with rabid beliefs and zero evidence to support them are closer to religious than the science guys who have mountains of evidence to support their positions.

The funny thing about the "going to Orion" is, Orion is a constellation.  I don't believe there are any planets in Orion though 

Tremendous doofus...

One of you other RE-tards kindly explain the subject material to this f***twit prior o letting him post here again...

God you guys are even more imbecilic now than you were over a month ago!

Must be tough living inside your own uneducated head then...

What a dipshit!

We're all still waiting for something useful.  Go ahead... step up to the plate and impress us with your intellectual prowess.  OMG, I get chills being in the presence of such a mental powerhouse.   *chuckle*  *snort*

Quote from: totallackey on May 31, 2018, 07:42:02 AM

It was not NASA you asshat...

CLAIMS HE WORKED FOR NASA and does not know the basics.

Liar....

Yeah... I did indeed.  But... how would you even know what the basics are?  It's evident from your communications that you would have difficulty making a cheese sandwich.

Oh horseshit!

If you worked for NASA then you would know about Orion and could read basic English.

You are just f***ing liar.

Tremendous doofus...

One of you other RE-tards kindly explain the subject material to this f***twit prior o letting him post here again...

God you guys are even more imbecilic now than you were over a month ago!

Can't you defend your own position?  In any event, please calm down.  I wouldn't want you to self-immolate and burn your house down to the axels.

Quote from: Really on May 31, 2018, 07:47:13 AM

Quote from: totallackey on May 31, 2018, 07:42:02 AM

It was not NASA you asshat...

CLAIMS HE WORKED FOR NASA and does not know the basics.

Liar....

Yeah... I did indeed.  But... how would you even know what the basics are?  It's evident from your communications that you would have difficulty making a cheese sandwich.

Oh horseshit!

If you worked for NASA then you would know about Orion and could read basic English.

You are just f***ing liar.

I do know about Orion.  If you Google it real quick, you can find the names of two bright stars that you have heard used in TV shows.  Quick.. hurry.  Go.. shoo shoo. 

Quote from: totallackey on May 31, 2018, 07:47:40 AM

Tremendous doofus...

One of you other RE-tards kindly explain the subject material to this f***twit prior o letting him post here again...

God you guys are even more imbecilic now than you were over a month ago!

Can't you defend your own position?  In any event, please calm down.  I wouldn't want you to self-immolate and burn your house down to the axels.

My position is that you are disingenuous, lying little f***twit, as evidenced by your own writing and it is strongly and staunchly defended by your replies throughout this thread.

You have a distinct inability to read English and have no clue as to when an organization you claim to have worked for was formed.

Quote from: Badxtoss on May 31, 2018, 07:28:39 AM

It's simply a question of money. You guys, with rabid beliefs and zero evidence to support them are closer to religious than the science guys who have mountains of FICTION to support their positions.

FTFY.

I love it when you guys can't actually refute something with facts so you have to change what someone else said. It really shows how ignorant you are. 

Oh horseshit!

If you worked for NASA then you would know about Orion and could read basic English.

You are just f***ing liar.

Mate... it doesn't phase me in the least that you doubt me.    A f*cking liar you call me.  You don't know me from Adam yet, just like your FE beliefs, you refuse to believe the truth regardless of how it is presented to you.

Sorry but... I can't help you.  You just can't tell a stupid person they are stupid.  They won't believe you.  They lack the mental capacity to recognise what they do not understand.

So... off to work you go.  Twist that pipe, flip that burger, drive that nail.  The world does need people like you.  Just please don't talk while you're doing all that work. 

My position is that you are disingenuous, lying little f***twit, as evidenced by your own writing and it is strongly and staunchly defended by your replies throughout this thread.

You have a distinct inability to read English and have no clue as to when an organization you claim to have worked for was formed.

The floor is yours.  By all means, share your knowledge with us.  Ejaculate the contents of your brain on this subject.  Impress me.  Lord Jesus, bless this man with the gift of gab so he can share his bountiful knowledge. 

Please, enlighten us!

You have a distinct inability to read English and have no clue as to when an organization you claim to have worked for was formed.

You know... I will admit that I've worked for a number of organisations and never once bothered to read about their history.  For instance, IBM... what they are today as compared to what they were in their first few years... yeah nah... far cry between the two.  So yeah, call that a personality flaw in me.  I could rightly give a f*ckall about a lot of that crap because many of the 100 year old organisations do not hold to the same values they once did.  That became evident to me when Exxon dumped it's "old" employees with an early retirement scheme.  Since then, company loyalty took a nose dive so, I don't care about hearing their BS history.

What I do know though is this; each and every one of the organisations I worked for paid me handsomely for what I do.  That's probably the reason I can be a condescending, asshat toward you because I know you are ignorant and I could probably guess that you don't have 2 nickels to rub together.  So yeah... you can call that a personality flaw also. 

Total, calling people "fucktwits" and "fucking liars" isn't helping you.

You haven't answered any questions, nor have you provided any evidence. I'd suggest starting there before continuing those ad hominem attacks.

Total, calling people "fucktwits" and "fucking liars" isn't helping you.

You haven't answered any questions, nor have you provided any evidence. I'd suggest starting there before continuing those ad hominem attacks.

Excellent response but... I think you exceeded his attention span at; You haven't answered any questions.  You expect much from this audience, don't you

That went downhill fast.

Finally!

This is the kind of debate I’ve seen on YouTube.  I was starting to think there weren’t any real flat earthers here. 

That went downhill fast.

Finally!

This is the kind of debate I’ve seen on YouTube.  I was starting to think there weren’t any real flat earthers here. 

I'm certainly not a FE.  No way... Jeez, I feel like I need a shower now.  I hope I didn't project that image onto anyone.  Ugh... Ick! 

Quote from: Teslaite on May 31, 2018, 12:43:02 AM

Ironically a couple of minutes reading reveals that the Van Allen belts don't preclude safe space travel. At the mission planning stage much of the risk can be avoided and exposure time can be limited. A quick look at the figures and the Apollo astronauts complete single mission exposure was something like 10-20% of a years worth of background radiation here on Earth.

I shall watch this thread with interest.

This is all pure garbage.

If it was simply mission planning then NASA would go straight ahead with Orion to appease all of you sci-fi nuts...

You guys and your "religion," are really mental...

Umm...  You do realize that NASA is currently in the process of going straight ahead with Orion, don't you?  In fact, they even launched one a few years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploration_Flight_Test_1

Quote from: totallackey on May 31, 2018, 04:34:15 AM

Quote from: Teslaite on May 31, 2018, 12:43:02 AM

Ironically a couple of minutes reading reveals that the Van Allen belts don't preclude safe space travel. At the mission planning stage much of the risk can be avoided and exposure time can be limited. A quick look at the figures and the Apollo astronauts complete single mission exposure was something like 10-20% of a years worth of background radiation here on Earth.

I shall watch this thread with interest.

This is all pure garbage.

If it was simply mission planning then NASA would go straight ahead with Orion to appease all of you sci-fi nuts...

You guys and your "religion," are really mental...

Umm...  You do realize that NASA is currently in the process of going straight ahead with Orion, don't you?  In fact, they even launched one a few years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploration_Flight_Test_1

“NASA heavily promoted the mission, collaborating with Sesame Street and its characters to educate children about the flight test and the Orion spacecraft“

Indoctrination confirmed!

Quote from: totallackey on May 31, 2018, 04:34:15 AM

Quote from: Teslaite on May 31, 2018, 12:43:02 AM

Ironically a couple of minutes reading reveals that the Van Allen belts don't preclude safe space travel. At the mission planning stage much of the risk can be avoided and exposure time can be limited. A quick look at the figures and the Apollo astronauts complete single mission exposure was something like 10-20% of a years worth of background radiation here on Earth.

I shall watch this thread with interest.

This is all pure garbage.

If it was simply mission planning then NASA would go straight ahead with Orion to appease all of you sci-fi nuts...

You guys and your "religion," are really mental...

Umm...  You do realize that NASA is currently in the process of going straight ahead with Orion, don't you?  In fact, they even launched one a few years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploration_Flight_Test_1

Ummm, that's the name of the spacecraft... not a chartered mission to a massive constellation. 

Incidentally, it’s a bit weird they reused the Orion name.

I alway associate it with the slightly mad 50s/60s concept for a spaceship that dropped nukes behind it for propulsion:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion)