What is being done to prove the flat earth?

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What is being done to prove the flat earth?
« on: May 28, 2018, 08:06:38 AM »
A good number of flat earth thinkers call themselves Zetetists. They seek the truth. This is fine and good. This website is full of theories and models that have been put foward to discern the truth of the earth's shape.

So what then is being done to verify which of the various models and theories is the correct one? It is not enough to hypothesise a means to explain what is seen. Steps must be taken to verify the accuracy of said hypothesis as a function of truly seeking the truth.

Can any of the many original thinkers in this forum state the steps they are taking to verify their flat earth models?

Re: What is being done to prove the flat earth?
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2018, 12:24:34 PM »
A good number of flat earth thinkers call themselves Zetetists. They seek the truth. This is fine and good. This website is full of theories and models that have been put foward to discern the truth of the earth's shape.

So what then is being done to verify which of the various models and theories is the correct one? It is not enough to hypothesise a means to explain what is seen. Steps must be taken to verify the accuracy of said hypothesis as a function of truly seeking the truth.

Can any of the many original thinkers in this forum state the steps they are taking to verify their flat earth models?

Zeteticists do not theorize or hypothesize. The major difference between scientific method and Zetetic method. Zeteticists observe and conclude.

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Re: What is being done to prove the flat earth?
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2018, 12:33:52 PM »
If you look at the Zetetics writings, they do no such thing. They actually proceed far more by disproof and falsification - ever wonder why its called "Earth: Not A Globe" and not "The Earth Is Flat!"?
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Re: What is being done to prove the flat earth?
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2018, 06:13:01 PM »
If you look at the Zetetics writings, they do no such thing. They actually proceed far more by disproof and falsification - ever wonder why its called "Earth: Not A Globe" and not "The Earth Is Flat!"?

You are mistaken. The first chapter of "Earth: Not A Globe" promotes inquiry, observation, and conclusion; derides theorizing and hypothesizing; and certainly does not emphasize disproof and falsification.

"The term Zetetic is derived from the Greek verb Zeteo; which means to search, or examine; to proceed only by inquiry; to take nothing for granted, but to trace phenomena to their immediate and demonstrable causes. It is here used in contradistinction from the word "theoretic," the meaning of which is, speculative--imaginary--not tangible,--scheming, but not proving.

None can doubt that by making special experiments, and collecting manifest and undeniable facts, arranging them in logical order, and observing what is naturally and fairly deducible therefrom, the result must be more consistent and satisfactory than the contrary method of framing a theory or system--assuming the existence and operation of causes of which there is no direct and practical evidence, and which is only claimed to be "admitted for the sake of argument," and for the purpose of giving an apparent and plausible, but not necessarily truthful explanation of phenomena. All theories are of this character. "Supposing, instead of inquiring, imagining systems instead of learning from observation and experience the true constitution of things. Speculative men, by the force of genius may invent systems that will perhaps be greatly admired for a time; these, however, are phantoms which the force of truth will sooner or later dispel; and while we are pleased with the deceit, true philosophy with all the arts and improvements that depend upon it, suffers. The real state of things escapes our observation; or, if it presents itself to us, we are apt either to reject it wholly as fiction, or, by new efforts of a vain ingenuity to interweave it with our own conceits, and labour to make it tally with our favourite schemes. Thus, by blending together parts so ill-suited, the whole comes forth an absurd composition of truth and error. * * * These have not done near so much harm as that pride and ambition which has led philosophers to think it beneath them to offer anything less to the world than a complete and finished system of Nature; and, in order to obtain this at once, to take the liberty of inventing certain principles and hypotheses from which they pretend to explain all her mysteries."

It is quite bizarre that you either do not know this, or choose to deny it and actively are promoting its opposite.

Why do you do this?

Re: What is being done to prove the flat earth?
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2018, 08:43:07 AM »
Then a direct question to you John Davis. You have a model of the flat earth that you subscribe to. What have you done personally to verify your model? What have you done to prove to yourself that your model of the flat earth, or points in your model are the more accurate when compared to other flat earth models?

Do you experiment? If you do, please share

Re: What is being done to prove the flat earth?
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2018, 08:46:08 AM »
Then a direct question to you John Davis. You have a model of the flat earth that you subscribe to. What have you done personally to verify your model? What have you done to prove to yourself that your model of the flat earth, or points in your model are the more accurate when compared to other flat earth models?

Do you experiment? If you do, please share

The only experiment John has done is look out the window of his room at the mental hospital.  "It looks flat to me" is all he needs to "conclude".

Re: What is being done to prove the flat earth?
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2018, 02:37:23 AM »
Probably, but remember that "they" forced him to go in this room ._. "They" don't want us to know the truth....Even without reasons to hide it from us.

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Re: What is being done to prove the flat earth?
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2018, 03:12:58 AM »
Logic and reality derived from presenting facts within FET claims have disproven theories proposed by round Earth believers.     

Re: What is being done to prove the flat earth?
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2018, 03:29:20 AM »
Theories that have been verified and approved by logical and real experimentations, pictures, tests, things, travels in space, with videos showing anything. Round earth theory is probably the theory, all domains considered, the most verifief and logical in the history.

Re: What is being done to prove the flat earth?
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2018, 08:02:59 AM »
Logic and reality derived from presenting facts within FET claims have disproven theories proposed by round Earth believers.   

Can you share?

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Re: What is being done to prove the flat earth?
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2018, 08:29:34 AM »
Can any of the many original thinkers in this forum state the steps they are taking to verify their flat earth models?
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Re: What is being done to prove the flat earth?
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2018, 11:21:30 AM »
A good number of flat earth thinkers call themselves Zetetists. They seek the truth. This is fine and good. This website is full of theories and models that have been put foward to discern the truth of the earth's shape.

So what then is being done to verify which of the various models and theories is the correct one? It is not enough to hypothesise a means to explain what is seen. Steps must be taken to verify the accuracy of said hypothesis as a function of truly seeking the truth.

Can any of the many original thinkers in this forum state the steps they are taking to verify their flat earth models?

Zeteticists do not theorize or hypothesize. The major difference between scientific method and Zetetic method. Zeteticists observe and conclude.

Yeah so basically Zeteticists  just look at something, do no work or anything, and say "that looks like ..... so it is." They don't do tests or anything, they just base everything they know off of sight.

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Re: What is being done to prove the flat earth?
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2018, 07:58:12 PM »
Every actual flat earth believer has a different theory of how its flat.

Dome?
Infinite?
Gravity?
UA?
Magnets?

You would think if everything points to a flat earth they would all come to the same conclusion.
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Re: What is being done to prove the flat earth?
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2018, 09:16:00 PM »
You would think if everything points to a flat earth they would all come to the same conclusion.

But. They don't.
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Re: What is being done to prove the flat earth?
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2018, 10:22:13 PM »
That is the interesting part of this phenomenon. Why do they not fight among themselves as it appears not many share the same vision of flat Earth, i.e. other FEers are wrong while they are right.

Re: What is being done to prove the flat earth?
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2018, 11:01:36 PM »
To be blunt, I have seen very little done to "prove" that the earth is flat.  A good many FE'ers quibble about NASA photographs and other things trotted out as evidence for a Round Earth (or for an orbit around the sun or some similar article of faith in conventional astronomy) ... but quibbling about evidence for a Round Earth is not the same as bringing in evidence of a Flat Earth.  Every few months NASA produces another photo or two or twenty and I hear a replay of the same old quibbling, and a recital of the same old unconvincing arguments for a flat planet.  Now, if someone would get into an airplane or a jetplane and go to the very edge of the flat planet and photograph the Edge like the crust of a slice of a bread, that might actually move the FE movement along!