How does the sun and moon just hover above flat earth

How the hell does the sun simply hover above a flat earth and have an infinite fuel supply to keep it glowing. The moon does the same as well. I heard some flat earth theories that the moon produces cold light, how can light be cold? The moon is probably sucking the energy out of earth to make it colder and its not because of the light because light produces heat. Also, about the phases of the moon. How does the moon change shape if the sun is hovering above flat earth like the moon? And finally, why do flat earthers deny gravity because its just a theory? Don't they just call flat earth a theory as well? I would need some flat earthers to answer this just to see if their "theory" can be real.

aetheric "force", some force, they are just there



like a baby mobile, or marionette strings.

aetheric "force", some force, they are just there


like a baby mobile, or marionette strings.

They also say density is what keeps us down on the ground. But don't you need gravity in order to get density to move you in a specific direction. If there's just density, you will just float around. Try this experiment by putting a fly in vacuum chamber, in a vaccum the fly won't die but also it won't be able to fly. If the fly attempts to fly it will fall back down despite there being no density to begin with.

Try this experiment by putting a fly in vacuum chamber, in a vaccum the fly won't die but also it won't be able to fly.

Are you saying that flies don't need air to breathe?

Are you saying that flies don't need air to breathe?

Not for the length of time required to do the experiment.

If you prefer, use a tiny electronic RC drone.

Quote from: Mikey T. on May 21, 2018, 04:46:58 AM

aetheric "force", some force, they are just there


like a baby mobile, or marionette strings.

They also say density is what keeps us down on the ground. But don't you need gravity in order to get density to move you in a specific direction. If there's just density, you will just float around. Try this experiment by putting a fly in vacuum chamber, in a vaccum the fly won't die but also it won't be able to fly. If the fly attempts to fly it will fall back down despite there being no density to begin with.

Yes, density of air alone keeps nothing on the ground. It generates air pressure. But this is uniformly, not only from above. Otherwise, I would float inside a house, because then there is less air between me and the ceiling.

Even the buoyancy formulas include the gravitational constant (or they use “weight”, instead of “mass”) and therefore are based on gravity.

And even if the FE density assumption is true, the unsolved problem would be: What keeps the air down? The vacuum of space? And what makes the surface of earth disc to be “down”? Why not “up” or “right”?

They also say density is what keeps us down on the ground. But don't you need gravity in order to get density to move you in a specific direction. If there's just density, you will just float around. Try this experiment by putting a fly in vacuum chamber, in a vaccum the fly won't die but also it won't be able to fly. If the fly attempts to fly it will fall back down despite there being no density to begin with.

Technically gravity or acceleration.
Acceleration is used in centrifuges to separate materials based upon their density.

That is why some would appeal to universal* acceleration.

Quote from: TP@A on May 21, 2018, 05:20:05 AM

Try this experiment by putting a fly in vacuum chamber, in a vaccum the fly won't die but also it won't be able to fly.

Are you saying that flies don't need air to breathe?

Somehow the flies are still alive. They don't have lungs so maybe they don't need air. I dunno.

Quote from: markjo on May 21, 2018, 06:05:49 AM

Quote from: TP@A on May 21, 2018, 05:20:05 AM

Try this experiment by putting a fly in vacuum chamber, in a vaccum the fly won't die but also it won't be able to fly.

Are you saying that flies don't need air to breathe?

Somehow the flies are still alive. They don't have lungs so maybe they don't need air. I dunno.

They have a different breathing mechanism in form of little tubes throughout their body which works on air diffusion. Therefore, they need air as well, but they could survive for a short time inside a (near) vacuum, because they do not have a lung which could explode.

Quote from: TP@A on May 21, 2018, 07:23:06 PM

Quote from: markjo on May 21, 2018, 06:05:49 AM

Quote from: TP@A on May 21, 2018, 05:20:05 AM

Try this experiment by putting a fly in vacuum chamber, in a vaccum the fly won't die but also it won't be able to fly.

Are you saying that flies don't need air to breathe?

Somehow the flies are still alive. They don't have lungs so maybe they don't need air. I dunno.

They have a different breathing mechanism in form of little tubes throughout their body which works on air diffusion. Therefore, they need air as well, but they could survive for a short time inside a (near) vacuum, because they do not have a lung which could explode.

Oh, so that's how flies breathe. Thanks for telling me this.

I still haven't got any answers to how the sun and moon hover above a flat earth.

I still haven't got any answers to how the sun and moon hover above a flat earth.

They don't know (yet). I asked the same question some time ago.

As long as there is no definite gravity replacement chosen, they can not answer this question.

The answer depends therefore on:
- gravity, universal accelerator or other
- ether or no ether
- dome or no dome
- sun/moon small/near or big/far
- sun/moon flat or round
- sun/moon physical or virtual projection
- earth stationary or rotating around own axis
- and many other things

Just happened upon this thread...  I too am very curious how this theory can be explained.  The simple science that we know today tells me that they can't do this because it would violate many laws of physics that we are familiar with.  I know, I know, Flat Earthers, it all lies, right?  Just because they work all the time doesn't mean they're real...  Still the spherical earth model explains it all.  If it's a setup, its a pretty damn good one!

Just happened upon this thread...  I too am very curious how this theory can be explained.  The simple science that we know today tells me that they can't do this because it would violate many laws of physics that we are familiar with.  I know, I know, Flat Earthers, it all lies, right?  Just because they work all the time doesn't mean they're real...  Still the spherical earth model explains it all.  If it's a setup, its a pretty damn good one!

Just what I was thinking this morning. It's a damn well detailed conspiracy. It's all lies yet it manages to be the technology on which earth's civilisation is built. It's all lies yet it ensures sailors and pilots cross vast oceans with extreme accuracy. It's all fake yet all the pictures, videos, live streams and other evidence making up terabytes of information are so terribly consistent. The theories are dreamt up by "them" yet they work and work well. They explain all of reality as we see it.

That's one heck of a conspiracy.

But those who are woke, those who have shaken off the indoctrination and brainwashing, those who are more intelligent than the rest of us, that have seen through the fog of lies, can't even agree on the distance between New York and Paris. A route travelled since before the United States, creator of the great Satan NASA, was established

So, no answers yet? I'm curious to see how they answer. Searching on the internet will give  me random bullshit so its better to ask.

Well, this thread will be forgotten soon because there's no activity here.

Well, this thread will be forgotten soon because there's no activity here.

Have you noticed that flat earthers just ignore things that have no logical explanation.

I guess that the answer to "How does the sun and moon just hover above flat earth?" is either "They just do" or "Rowbotham said so."

 

Quote from: TP@A on May 26, 2018, 09:38:37 PM

Well, this thread will be forgotten soon because there's no activity here.

Have you noticed that flat earthers just ignore things that have no logical explanation.

I guess that the answer to "How does the sun and moon just hover above flat earth?" is either "They just do" or "Rowbotham said so."

Oh man. I was so exited that i thought someone finally answered. But at least there is someone here. And its kinda true that they ignore some questions. Thanks for keeping this thread afloat in the ocean of threads.

I always ask myself what happens in the mind of a flat earther when they are confronted with questions like those you asked.
I mean if I believe in something I cant really explain at all, shouldnt I start questioning its validity?
Are they just to lazy to learn about simple phyical concepts?
I really dont get these people, especialy cause most of the flaws they see with the globmodel are 100% explainable.

They must be deciving themselfs into not hearing those questions and explainations. Thats probably also why no one answered your thread.   

I always ask myself what happens in the mind of a flat earther when they are confronted with questions like those you asked.
I mean if I believe in something I cant really explain at all, shouldnt I start questioning its validity?
Are they just to lazy to learn about simple phyical concepts?
I really dont get these people, especialy cause most of the flaws they see with the globmodel are 100% explainable.

They must be deciving themselfs into not hearing those questions and explainations. Thats probably also why no one answered your thread.   

It is called cognitive dissonance.
When they are confronted with something that contradicts their beliefs, they need to find a way to remove that cognitive dissonance. Ignoring it or pretending it doesn't exist helps them do that.

Quote from: GarryTheLizzard on May 27, 2018, 09:43:34 AM

I always ask myself what happens in the mind of a flat earther when they are confronted with questions like those you asked.
I mean if I believe in something I cant really explain at all, shouldnt I start questioning its validity?
Are they just to lazy to learn about simple phyical concepts?
I really dont get these people, especialy cause most of the flaws they see with the globmodel are 100% explainable.

They must be deciving themselfs into not hearing those questions and explainations. Thats probably also why no one answered your thread.   

It is called cognitive dissonance.
When they are confronted with something that contradicts their beliefs, they need to find a way to remove that cognitive dissonance. Ignoring it or pretending it doesn't exist helps them do that.

In that case i have to apologize for the few times i may have call some fe's morons or idiots.
I did not realise they were suffering a condition.

I always ask myself what happens in the mind of a flat earther when they are confronted with questions like those you asked.
I mean if I believe in something I cant really explain at all, shouldnt I start questioning its validity?
Are they just to lazy to learn about simple phyical concepts?
I really dont get these people, especialy cause most of the flaws they see with the globmodel are 100% explainable.

They must be deciving themselfs into not hearing those questions and explainations. Thats probably also why no one answered your thread.   

Let's just use this thread to start conversations between us about flat earth because they never open this thread.

Let's just use this thread to start conversations between us about flat earth because they never open this thread.

We watch you Curlys, Moes and Shemps entertain yourselves all the time.   

Quote from: TP@A on May 27, 2018, 06:37:55 PM

Let's just use this thread to start conversations between us about flat earth because they never open this thread.

We watch you Curlys, Moes and Shemps entertain yourselves all the time.   

Are you a flat earther. Because if you are, FINALLY someone can answer my question. Can you please answer my question on how the sun and moon hover above flat earth.

Quote from: TP@A on May 27, 2018, 06:37:55 PM

Let's just use this thread to start conversations between us about flat earth because they never open this thread.

We watch you Curlys, Moes and Shemps entertain yourselves all the time.   

No Larrys?

OK I was hoping for an answer. But no answer.

Quote from: TP@A on May 27, 2018, 06:37:55 PM

Let's just use this thread to start conversations between us about flat earth because they never open this thread.

We watch you Curlys, Moes and Shemps entertain yourselves all the time.   

And while you are watching us, do you never feel the urge to educate us? If your model is so sound, all those question should be easily explained right? And every person in this thread would be convinced.
Seize the opportunity please.

I'm desperate for answers. I need some answers from flat earthers. Do they ignore this because they can't answer?

1 week and still no answer. This is taking long.

If I say a bad word will it go to angry ranting. Because I'm sick and tired of waiting for an answer.