Wailing wall of believers

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Wailing wall of believers
« on: May 06, 2018, 12:49:23 AM »
I'm sad for this, but we the believers are the minority exposed to injustice. we are constantly humiliated by multiple globists and are accused of lying, even though we are right in many ways and have proved our right.

we have expressed these injustices in many platform. In this topic, we may collect these injustices against believers, and show everyone how globist gang act non honesty.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2022, 03:26:56 AM by wise »
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I start.

Topic: Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28)

As we know that, QF27 and QF28 are fake routes created by globist gang for be an evidence of the earth's be a globe. But we have proved them are fake, at least we have proved there is not enugh evidence puts forward the existance of this path. Lets examine whats happen:

Hello all!

The FE is debunked by Quantas flights QF27 and QF28. These are actual flights that happen everyday. There is no way to explain how these flights operate with the flight times that they experience with FE theory.
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Someone claims the route is exist and disproves the flat earth theory, without put forward any evidence. Ok.

After a bit initial chat, we have started a bit more seriously:

:) hello rabinoz :)

Why don't you prove the existance of this flight by taking an online video, instead of talking prates?

Come on, we all know you can't do this. Because you have no money to buy a 1.000$ camera.  ;D

This is my opinon. Logical, meaningfull.

Look the reply:

Does the lack of response mean tacit acceptance of the claim in the thread subject?
There is nobody in the earth who is taking breath used/flown this route.
Please present independent evidence for your totally incorrect claim!

I do wish I knew why you think that you have to lie all the time to support the flat earth?
If the earth is really flat there should be plenty of  honest evidence for that and you should have no need for outright lies like this.
But apparently you are not sure that there is real evidence that the earth is flat so you lie like this to pretend it's flat.

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QANTAS CELEBRATES 3 YEARS OF FLYING TO SANTIAGO SYDNEY | PUBLISHED ON 26TH MARCH 2015 AT 8:26
Qantas today celebrates the third anniversary of its first service from Sydney to Santiago, with more than 430,000* Qantas passengers travelling on the route since launch.

Initially operating three times per week, Qantas began services from Sydney to Santiago in 2012 and increased to four services per week last year in response to strong passenger demand.

Qantas Executive Manager Global Sales, Stephen Thompson said thousands of customers were taking advantage of Qantas’ vast South American network every year.

“Demand for flights between Australia and Santiago has exceeded our expectations and forward bookings are looking very strong,” said Mr Thompson.
“The strong business market, which makes up around two thirds of our customers, together with the growing family, student and leisure segments makes Santiago a very important hub.
“Qantas offers the fastest non-stop route between Australia and South America, and our recent expansion with oneworld partner LAN enables customers to travel to more destinations in South America, more opportunities to earn frequent flyer points and have their luggage checked through to their final destination.”

*Total passenger numbers include Qantas’ direct service between Santiago and Sydney, and Qantas codeshare passengers travelling on LAN Airlines’ daily services between Sydney and Santiago via Auckland and direct between Auckland and Santiago.

Where is the video that I asked for? Absent. These are nothing but "round'about".

Lets continue:

Brainwashingtonoz deleted

Offer a flight video about you claim its existance or shut up.

I insist to ask a video. Result? Zero. They are just doing "round'about".

Why don't you prove the existance of this flight by taking an online video, instead of talking prates?
While I'm not Rab, taking a video is pointless.
There is already plenty of proof of its existence which you simply ignore.
If we provided a video you would just cry "FAKE!!!"

Other globist has joined. He knows what will they claim: "a fake vide", so that he pays the way of their lie.

Offer a flight video about you claim its existance or shut up.
What would a video prove? Nothing!
If you won't believe that QANTAS and LATAM fly non-stop across the Pacific, you wouldn't believe a video.

Why would anybody bother taking a video of a 12 how flight? it would be just too boring!
But there are these LATAM flights that go Sydney, Auckland, Santiago the Buenos Aires:

TRIPREPORT | LATAM (Economy) |
Auckland - Santiago De Chile | Boeing 787-9
(Auckland to Santiago but still across the Pacific
     

LAN Business Class 787-8 / 787-9 Inflight review
(LA800 SYD-AKL-SCL, LA445 SCL- EZE) David Hein
But, what do a few videos prove? Go down to Santiago and find out the truth!

Qantas Boeing 747-400ER VH-OEH take off from
Santiago de Chile to Sydney (QF28)
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Vuelo Qantas Santiago Chile - Sydney Australia Boeing 747,
Erick Amador

Look, Mr Brotherhood of the Dome, I  don't know who you think you are sitting in your basement in Istanbul,
but you've proven over and over that you know nothing about Australia, yet you still spin your fairy stories about this country.

If you really want to learn for yourself, go down to Santiago and find out that I've been right all along!

All these are short videos and prove nothing. These are just information pollution aims to confuse the readers. This post means nothing else, just confuse the readers. But we still can't see a real evidence.

Then I have teached them how it should be with similar evidence:

I want to give you an example to teach you how prove something:

Firm: Qantas
Flight: London - Perth
My opinion: Exist!
Proof: Full time video! 17 hours!
Result: London to perth 17 hours is possible!



Firm: Air France
Flight: paris-Vancouer
My opinion: Exist
Proof: Following Full time video!
Result: Paris to Vancoer 11 hours travel is possible!



Firm: United airlines
Flight: San Fransisco-London
My opinion: Exist!
Proof: Following full flight video
Result: San Fransisco to London 11 hours travel is possible!




Firm: American Airlines
Flight: London-New York
My opinion: Exist.
Proof: Following video.
Result: London to New York 8 hours travel is possible!



I hope everyone has understand how a proof bees!

Now lets examine the flight of QF27

Firm: Qantas
Flight: Sydney-Santiago,Chile
My opinion: ABSENT!
Proof: ABSENT!
Result:



Any other claim?

All 4 videos are full time videos and prove the existance of the path.

After that, they have decided to post a "fake" video as a reply. You see how they fight against the reality in the aim of only "resist the truth".

And their "simulation flight" comes by another globist:

Here's a video of interest...





Mike

Both two are simulation flights, can be easily debunked.

For a basic compare, I'll show you two scene from real evidence and fake evidence:

A scene from Real light:



You can even count the number of raindrops.

Lets look their fake evidence, a scene from "simulation flight".

First of all, the night time on first video is just 7 hours but it is 14 hours in 2nd video. This is bacisly caused by a simulator mistake. Anyway.

First I want to say, every detail of their so called evidence seem from a simulation. There is no human, no moving vehicles, no moving anything. Lets look at a scene of them:



You may check it in first video by come to same time range.

First thing gets our interest, the details are not perfect and sound like come from a minecraft game. We remember this same mistake  on so called japan satellite videos.

Take care how corners are broken line. Clouds seem like taken by a minecraft game. lights and shadows give the impression of being taken from a simple program.the navigation device does not seem to belong there.

These are clear evidences prove this video is fake, and possible a simulation program.

All of these are clear.

I have proved my claims are real, and disproved their claims. So the topic may be closed now. But there is nothing will be.

While the management are just watching their show, the gang still produce new lies:

Problem South America to Australia flights are absent.
They aren't absent.
They exist.
People have flown them.

All I want a full flight video between any of South American city and any of Australian city.
Then go make one.

We are talking about an instutation has 20.000.000.000$ budget, try to everything to prove the earth is a globe, but could not find 1.000$ to buy a camera and someone record it; really?
No one is trying to prove Earth is a globe. That has been known for thousands of years.

How about instead of acting like this is all there is, you make a list of all the stupid requests like this which have been made and see just how much they cost.
Then realise that even if the video was provided you would still just dismiss it as fake making it pointless.

The only video you would accept is one you made yourself.
So stop demanding we make one when we all you will just dismiss it.
Go make it yourself.

My opinion: ABSENT!
Proof: ABSENT!
Yes, your proof is absent.
Now how about you try providing some?
I know people personally who have flown this route.
I have been able to track the planes as they fly this route, they are available on booking sites, and so on.

QF27 is still absent.
Only the video of it, which is true for plenty of other flights.

All the evidence points to these flights existing and your only basis for saying they are fake is that they prove you wrong.

Other pilots are really doing it to prove their flights. Most of pilots are doing it.
No they aren't.
If you wish to make such insane claims we will need far more than your word.

Not passengers, but pilots
Then why ask us for one?
I'm not a pilot.

And why would any do it for someone like you when you repeatedly insult them and anyone else that disagrees with you?

Absolutely these flights are absent and hoax.
Nope. All the evidence still indicates they are real and you have provided no reason to doubt their existence.

This video is a game scene like minecraft.
No, like flight simulator X, as the titles clearly indicate.

If you come 3:00 hours, then 11:00 hours, both are night and between it is daylight. So daylight is just 7 hours?
I take it you forgot how timezones work?
If you are flying east, you will have shorter days and shorter nights.

And the second one, but this time night continues about 14 hours.
Because when you fly west, days and nights are much longer.

The day and night cycle on FSX is pretty accurate.

This also shows you haven't bothered checking the flights you presented, as they have similar issues.
How long is day and night on the trip from Perth to London?

Here's a video of interest...





Mike

I have saw them earlier. I forced you delibaretely for post this flights. Because we have proved they are clearly cgi. If you watch the videos before post, you could understand them as fake. Clearly fake. This video is a game scene like minecraft. Even so minecraft is more real.

If you come 3:00 hours, then 11:00 hours, both are night and between it is daylight. So daylight is just 7 hours? It is clear there is missing at least 5 hours.

And the second one, but this time night continues about 14 hours. How is it possible? Impossible Mike.

This is what we call as "simulation flight" Mike. You should to Prepare more convincing lies!   ;D
And that is all you're going to get.  It's completely unreasonable for you to demand others spend thousands of dollars and devote the time just to provide you with video evidence.  It's just plain unfair.

You are the one making the claim that these flights are fake.  There is plenty of evidence that these flights exist.  The onus in on you to provide concrete proof and I'm not talking about your personal calculations because as much as the existence of these flights are unbelievable to you, because you say so is just as incredulous to us.

It’s up to you to take the flight and document your own evidence.  This is one of the things I don’t understand about FEers.  There are enough of you to crowd fund this (e.g. gofundme) and the proof could be had for just a few dollars apiece and yet all anyone will do is use spreadsheets and internet searches and say that is enough to be proof positive.  Well, it's not. 

Mike

I have an idea BoTD. Why don’t you sit through all the videos on that YouTube channel I linked previously and compare them with flight records form he companies on your blacklist.

But remember, you have to watch them fully for one could have tinkered with them!

Do it by yourself. If you Report me the results then I'll control them. Okay.
Not acceptable! You will not believe anyone else's report, so you must sit through them ALL YOURSELF!

And remember, Mr Brotherhood of the Dome, you control nothing.
You deceptively put these airlines on a "black-list" for no other reason than that their flight prove that you are wrong.

Stop to trolling the forum.

If you can't prove the existance of flight, so the topic is wrong. QF27 isn't exist. It just a claim. Claims can't debunk anyting.
Case closed.
Debunked claim is debunked. This topic is nothing but a crap after now.
Incorrect hundreds of thousands have flown that route so video evidence is not necessary and you have been shown plenty of videos anyway.
So, Mr Brotherhood of the Dome, since you have never even been to the Southern Hemisphere, the onus is squarely on your shoulders to prove you case.
And really you have provided no evidence, just the empty words of a proven highly biased person!

So, the case is not closed and those flights are all quite genuine!

None of these contain a solid evidence. These both 3 only aim to confuse people with their lies.

Shame on you globist gang, shame on you forum management who hold this terrorist gang stay here.
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Another example of Subject: Whirlpool direction

How does FET explain that inside the equator circle water whirls down a sink in one direction and outside the equator circle in the opposite direction?

How about ocean water and wind currents inside and outside the equator circle?

The Op question is simple. He wonder about what "FET" states about Whirlpool direction.

One of the FE theoritican answers it immediately.

Sinks-doesn't happen, urban legend, check your facts.
Wind currents-click the link in my sig, it is too detailed an explanation to deliver on a whim but it's there and you're invited to read. (I ask you make up your own mind and don't take trolls' words for it).

Then logically, case closed. A question, and an answer of it. Simple and understandable. It has Done. Issue has done. Is it so? No. Somebody have a claim about it:

This girl is doing this several times a day for tourists, and it works every time. :)

I don't know how long ago she started, but still a lot of people every year have seen the demonstration.
If we estimate average of 12 people per demonstration, 10 demonstrations per day, 300 days per year, it would be 36 000 people yearly.



Although the issue closed in fact, because questionad and answered, a globist suddenly claim anything with a video. Ok. It may be.

Opposite argument:

It's still bullshit. It's the impact of how she throws the leaf.

Think about what you're saying. She is just a few steps from the equator, if we assume they have accurately measured its location and aren't just giving a best guess. The coriolis effect would be at its weakest there, a hair's breadth above 0, it is acting on a small environment so it is even more minor, and has to overpower both the velocity of her throw, the shape of the sink, brownian motion from the air... The plughole thing is widely acknowledged to be a myth even by round earthers. Tourists traps are not scientific settings.

Discussing continues with new members join the issue. 3-4 members together constantly targeting the JRoweSkeptic, either a non scientific appeals, or just for being appealed without any argument. Then I have joined the discussing with my classical type of writing:

She is giving a starting speed while she pouring the water. Come to 2:08

Oh. Take care the water is already rotating.  ;D

Now come to 1:26. This time she is giving the first speed the water to reverse direction while pouring the water.

Dishonest girl. She is at all son of wh*re.  ;D



Okey baby. Lets go to north.  ;D



Innocent girl. Oh, what an innocent girl.   :o

There is no way to rotate water without doing a cheat.

Countless time it is proven that, there is no corilois something. Stop to try prove something that impossible.

What happened to issue? It has done. Now it may be done, because the question was already answered; and now, the appeal of the answer has been disproved. Case closed. But their mind, issue still continues:

Video with that girl in Ecuador at its beginning shows that there are no whirlpools at the Equator.
Video with two guys, one in Alabama and another in Australia shows that there are opposite whirlpools further north and south.
And this video shows that Coriolis effect influences weights at different latitudes:



Also there is no proof that the material on scales where is calibrated.

It's all on the video! Stop trying to deceive us Mr Brotherhood of the Deceivers! You just dream up everything with no evidence.

But if that is not enough for you try to explain all of this without the Coriolis effect! And remember we need evidence, not you empty words.
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Firstly the effect on hurricanes, typhoons and cyclones.
Why is there a clear band that cyclones and hurricanes rarely cross?
I would say that something that causes
          hurricanes, typhoons and cyclones to rotate in a counter-clockwise in the Northern Hemisphere and
          cyclones to rotate in a clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere,
is a rather major effect on a Global scale and if you've been through a cyclone or hurricane, I'm sure you'd agree.

Even when it comes to the ordinary weather patterns of Highs and Lows, something causes the four distinct situations observed for High and Low Pressure Weather systems,
These include Hurricanes, Typhoons and Cyclones, in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres.
     
Northern Hemisphere
     
Southern Hemisphere
Highs
     
Clockwise
     
Anti-clockwise
Lows
     
Anti-clockwise
     
Clockwise
Just look at weather maps that show highs, lows and wind directions to verify this for yourself.

Explain that without the Coriolis effect!


Should I explain every shit? Who of us explain every shit come from non believers? They are more than us by numerically. We can't answer all the shits by lack of time. On the other hand, hurricanes rotate directions is not an issue I agree.. On the other hand, that time rabinoz was in my ignore list, so that I've not seen/ignored the question.

Perhaps you should try focusing on what he said?
The still water at the equator at the start of the video, didn't have any whirlpool.
The other video showed that at places distant from the equator do. It has nothing to do with little con artist.
Can you actually address the argument made?

Another one. I've no idea the question that I did not see. And these two aware of this situation.

Did you see any conclusive evidence of their existance or not? I did not see. what is natural here is that affect is not exist. if an opposing argument is to be made, it must have conclusive evidence. what is done here is that more and more people are saying this opposite argument. If too many people repeat the same lie, it will not make it right. It only causes a greater number of liars.

In this example, in one hand; more than one liars constantly say lie, on the other hand, they blame me to be a deceiver and a liar. Why? Why they accuse me to say lie? Because just I'm questioning. That's all. I think it is unfair.
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There is a claim by a leader of a globist terror gang as, There are no full length videos for most airlines routes.

There are no full length videos for most airlines routes.

Because they are claimin the existance of path Sydney to Chile, and when I asked the video proof about it, then they have started to say "There are no full length videos for most airlines routes. ". Ok. Now as you'll see that, I'll clearly debunk this claim:


There are no full length videos for most airlines routes.


You mister, you are the one of the liar ever seen in the world. Do you sincere on this? Ok.

"most airline routes". Lets examine them all.

These are "most airline routes". Source is from your country, australia:

http://www.traveller.com.au/worlds-busiest-airline-flight-routes-melbournesydney-now-worlds-second-busiest-h0e7ha

World's 10 busiest air routes
1-Jeju-Seoul, South Korea: 64,991
2-Melbourne-Sydney, Australia: 54,519
3-Mumbai-Delhi, India: 47,462
4-Fukuoka-Tokyo Haneda, Japan: 42,835
5-Rio de Janeiro-Sao Paulo Congonhas, Brazil: 39,325
6-Sapporo-Tokyo, Japan: 38,389
7-Los Angeles-San Francisco, USA: 34,897
8-Brisbane-Sydney, Australia: 33,765
9-Cape Town-Johannesburg, South Africa: 31,914
10-Beijing-Shanghai, China: 30,029

World's busiest international air routes
1-Hong Kong-Taipei: 29,494
2-Kuala Lumpur-Singapore: 29,383
3-Jakarta-Singapore: 26,872
4-Jakarta-Kuala Lumpur: 20,890
5-Hong Kong-Shanghai: 20,818
6-New York La Guardia-Toronto: 17,116
7-Hong Kong-Seoul Incheon: 16,366
8-Beijing-Hong Kong: 14,592
9-Dublin-London Heathrow: 14,556
10-Bangkok-Singapore: 14,455

What is this? This is science. Now. Lets examine these "most airline routes" one by one and decide haven't they full time videos according to your claim, or have they?

World's 10 busiest air routes
1-Jeju-Seoul, South Korea: 64,991
Video:


2-Melbourne-Sydney, Australia: 54,519


3-Mumbai-Delhi, India: 47,462
Could not found.(possible language difference problem)

4-Fukuoka-Tokyo Haneda, Japan: 42,835


5-Rio de Janeiro-Sao Paulo Congonhas, Brazil: 39,325


6-Sapporo-Tokyo, Japan: 38,389


7-Los Angeles-San Francisco, USA: 34,897


8-Brisbane-Sydney, Australia: 33,765


9-Cape Town-Johannesburg, South Africa: 31,914


10-Beijing-Shanghai, China: 30,029
could not found, (possible language difference problem)

World's busiest international air routes
1-Hong Kong-Taipei: 29,494




2-Kuala Lumpur-Singapore: 29,383



Enough, I'm tired.  ;D

In this working, we have examined the 12 of 20 world's most airlines routes. In these routes, we have found videos of 10/12 of them all. We could not found flights one China and one India path, perhaps caused passangers were published them in Indian and Chinese languages and we could not found them. But generally we found videos belong most of pathes.

In short, the deceiver of the forum's claim as


There are no full length videos for most airlines routes.


debunked.

Oppositely, most of them have full time videos, mister.

So, do you give up the evil?

Debunked. Most of airline routes have video proof, oppositely the claim of the globist gang. Now, what they have to do? they have to apologize. A honored man does this. A honored gang does this. A honored "globe earth society" does this. But instead of do this, they are confusing people by creating the knowledge pollution by other members. But we don't see a serious answer by collocutor of the post.

Following posts are "so called answers" to my post. You can see how they are squirming in pain, but there is no answer to my proof.

You sir, are so focused on calling Rabinoz names and proving him wrong that, in the process of doing so, completely shattered your own belief by confirming the OP’s statement.

You just debunked everything you said yourself in previous posts.

Congratulations.

What is this? information pollution. diversion the issue.

Another one:

Prove it by video or you're a liar. There is no complaint about Qantas because there is nobody want to fly to Santiago.
Come on, instead of USA, Brasil and Europe; which idiot want to go Santiago/Chile? Nobody. They know this, so they created this fraud.
There you go lying again.
Plenty of people fly the route.
If they didn't, the route wouldn't exist.
What reason do they have to lie about it?

So far we have the ability to book the flight and plenty of people who have either flown the route or claim to know someone that has, with flight tracking indicating the routes are being flown and so on.
Meanwhile we just have your baseless claim that the flights are fake all because they don't fit your delusional map.

"most airline routes". Lets examine them all.
These are "most airline routes". Source is from your country, australia:
No, these are the most flown routes or "busiest" routes by some other metric.
Theses are the ones that are most likely to have a video.

They are not most routes.
Here is a small example, from heathrow:
https://www.heathrow.com/plan-and-book-your-trip/destinations-and-airlines
Flying to the following destinations:
Aberdeen
Abu Dhabi
Abuja
Accra
Addis Ababa
Agadir
Ahmedabad
Algiers
Almeria
Amman
Amsterdam
Ashgabat
Astana
Asturias
Athens
Atlanta
Auckland
Austin
Bahrain
Baku
Baltimore
Bandar Seri Begawan (Brunei)
Bangkok
Barcelona
Basel
Beijing
Beirut
Belfast City
Belgrade
Bengaluru
Bergen
Berlin (Tegel)
Biarritz
Bilbao
Billund
Bogota
Bologna
Boston
Bridgetown
Brindisi
Brussels
Bucharest (Otopeni)
Budapest
Buenos Aires
Cagliari
Cairo
Calgary
Cape Town
Casablanca
Changsha
Charlotte
Chennai
Chicago (O'Hare)
Cologne (Bonn)
Colombo
Copenhagen
Corfu
Cork
Crete
Dallas/Fort Worth
Delhi
Denver
Detroit
Dhaka
Doha
Dubai
Dublin
Dusseldorf
Edinburgh
Faro
Figari
Frankfurt
Geneva
Gibraltar
Glasgow
Grenoble
Gothenburg
Gran Canaria
Grand Cayman
Guangzhou
Halifax
Hamburg
Hanoi
Hanover
Helsinki
Ho Chi Minh City
Hong Kong
Houston
Hyderabad
Ibiza
Innsbruck
Inverness
Islamabad
Istanbul Ataturk
Jakarta
Jeddah
Johannesburg
Kalamata
Karachi
Kefalonia
Kiev (Borispol)
Krakow
Kuala Lumpur
Kuwait
La Coruna
Lagos
Lahore
Larnaca
Las Vegas
Leeds Bradford
Lisbon
Los Angeles
Luanda
Luxembourg
Luxor
Lyon
Madrid
Malaga
Manchester
Manila
Marseille
Mauritius
Melbourne
Menorca
Mexico City
Miami
Milan (Linate)
Milan (Malpensa)
Minneapolis
Montpellier
Montreal
Moscow (Domodedovo)
Moscow (Sheremetyevo)
Mumbai
Munich
Murcia
Muscat
Mykonos
Nairobi
Nantes
Nashville
Nassau
New Orleans
New York (JFK)
New York (Newark)
Newcastle
Nice
Olbia
Oslo (Gardermoen)
Ottawa
Palermo
Palma
Paris (CDG)
Paris (Orly)
Perth
Philadelphia
Phoenix
Pisa
Prague
Pula
Qingdao
Raleigh-Durham
Reykjavik
Rijeka
Rio De Janeiro (Galeao)
Riyadh
Rome (Fiumicino)
Salt Lake City
Salzburg
San Diego
San Francisco
San Jose
Santiago
Santorini
Sao Paulo
Seattle - Tacoma
Seoul
Seychelles
Shanghai (Pudong)
Shannon
Singapore
Sofia
Split
St Johns
St Petersburg
Stavanger
Stockholm (Arlanda)
Stuttgart
Sydney
Sylhet
Taipei
Tallinn
Tashkent
Tehran
Tel Aviv
Tenerife South
Tenerife North
Tokyo (Haneda)
Tokyo (Narita)
Toronto
Toulouse
Tunis
Turin
Valletta
Vancouver
Venice
Vienna
Warsaw
Washington (Dulles)
Xian
Zagreb
Zakynthos
Zurich


This is just from one origin.
Try and find videos of all these routes.
Address the claim that was actually made.
Note, there are 214 different destinations here.


What is this? This is science.
No. This is the exact opposite of science.
It has very significant reporter bias where you fail to factor in how busy the route is to try and determine how likely it is to be filmed.
You do not address the actual argument made.


In this working, we have examined the 12 of 20 world's most airlines routes. In these routes, we have found videos of 10/12 of them all. We could not found flights one China and one India path, perhaps caused passangers were published them in Indian and Chinese languages and we could not found them. But generally we found videos belong most of pathes.
So you even failed to find them for some of the busiest routes.
Yet rather than pretend they are fake, you are fine with them existing.
If you can't find it for those routes, yet they can still be real you have refuted yourself.
A video is not required for a flight to be real.

You have also shown there is plenty of air traffic in Chile and South Africa.

debunked.
Oppositely, most of them have full time videos, mister.
There are far more than 20 air routes.
You have debunked nothing except yourself.

Now the other manager of the gang has arrived with a bunch of full crap. Where is any opposite argument? Absent.

The list I have used are taken from a list gives "most airlines routes." But with this working, we see a man trying to sabotage the issue.

then the matter should be locked now: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=71309.60

But we have not see such a thing. Because, unfortunately, our opposite controlled management are awaiting for their owners's save themselves.

Don't wait waste in wain. They had a claim and it has been clearly debunked. You have to lock it. But even so you'll not do that, every reader will understand the issue when read.

We are not fighthing against a globist gang here. We're fighting with globist terror gang, both with resist the unfair decisions of our (so called) own management. This is my belief, I'm sorry for this, you can't blame me by my beliefs:



we should not ask them more than they have.
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Re: Globist terror on the flat earth society (Wailing wall of believers)
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2018, 11:30:27 PM »
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2018, 01:11:16 AM »
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

I am waiting for your supports about my flat city project. It is meaningfull and lucrative.
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2018, 10:52:28 PM »
We see admins many times they punish mercilesly members many times while they talk racist / hate speeches.

So what happens if an admin talks hate racist speech against a member?
Since he is a turd and he broke the game and he won't stop being a turd -
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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2018, 08:03:51 AM »
We see admins many times they punish mercilesly members many times while they talk racist / hate speeches.

So what happens if an admin talks hate racist speech against a member?
Since he is a turd and he broke the game and he won't stop being a turd -

I want to give an additional information about why this is a racist hate speech for arrogants.

Actually turd is a word means shit. Normally the word shit used in general usings. But in slang of "ISIS, FETÖ, PKK, and people who hates Turks" are using it against Turks, as a hate speech and racism, its together means Turk and shit in social media slang. In other say, it like a version of "f*cking nigga".

As far as we see, anti-semitism or anti-any race is forbid but anti-Turkism is free in this forum. Or maybe just "anti-flat eartherism" is true word.

I know nothing will be done for her. Because this is a controlled opposition society so that insulting / hate speecs/ racism against flat earth believers are free. Ok, since controlled opposition cointelpro  forum   management have started to racism against flat earth believers, so what is next?
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2018, 09:08:23 AM »
Admins backed globularist racist terror continues.
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2018, 08:20:15 AM »
Space Vlad Hitler girl backed globularist terror continues by increasing rapidly.
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2018, 01:26:01 AM »
New ranks needed. "Flat Earth Scientist" has to be added.

After Jane has became as "flat earth researcher", our ranks are "flat earth believer" stays weaker of it that we do not deserve it. Me and sandokhan have great workings here and define us as "flat earth believer" stays weak in my opinion.

So that I have suggest a new rank as "flat earth scientist" contain me and Sandokhan. On the other hand we have to add "Shifter" as either flat earth almost believer or flat earth researcher. Although he denies being flat earth believer but all we see that he is more than an unbeliever. I believe he has to be at least flat earth researcher how Jane is.

On the other hand Notsoskeptikal has to change the rank of "ranters", because he is maliously targeting the believers and he is more than other ranters.

I know John Davis will not consider this suggest like several times he did. I've done this suggest for only make it a note to flat earth history.
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2018, 02:37:19 AM »
Management has allow angry globularists insult me.

User Wise's flat earth map is rubbish

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=78907.0

Although bullwinkle around, although I have reported the topic is an insult but management has gave no signal to get any action against it.

And one more time bullwinkle has proved they are nothing but a bunch of angry globularist management team.
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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2019, 06:09:11 AM »
When an angry globularist be in a tight corner, starts to insult.

Follow the dialoque.

Maybe, Qantas agrees only homeless people as passangers, after they have been murdered, nobody ask them; we can't know this. But someone from Qantas has to explain whats going on there?



This is an argument. I have supporter arguments for it:

There may be a process against decrease the number of homeless people in Australia.

Because Australia is the leader of the world according the number of homeless people in the entire world.



Source: https://www.finder.com.au/homelessness-statistics-australia-vs-world

In short, Aussies are 0,43% homeless. This is terrific a lot! There may be a project to reduce number of homeless and poor people like rabinoz and kill and destroy them. We can not be sure of this. There is some evidences about Qantas doing suspicious operations and number of homeless people puts forward Australia has a problem with poor homelesses.

Poor homelesses. May God bless them against cruel Qantas.  :'(

Humeless numbers in Australia. These are evidences for me and needs to be disproved by either the company, or the passangers. Anyways. Pay attention an angry globularist:

See now, THIS is exactly why I keep coming back to this site!


How can ANYONE with ANY sort of remaining mental faculties actually believe this tripe?

Are you seriously proposing that a major player in international travel is murdering planeloads of passengers on a daily basis?
What would be the motivation for such attrocities? Is it simply to cover your imagined "fact" that the flights booked do not actually exist?
Or do these flights simply blow massive holes into your entire preposterous "flat earth" fantasy?

We continue:

If they are exist so why can not you prove them? Aha, you seem has a problem, yeah right?

We continue. Still arguing...

If they don't are exist so why can you not prove them not? Aha, you seem has problem, yeah right?

Still arguing...


So you can not prove their existance then say I have no evidence on their absence. So both us can say their existance or absence as far as we want.

But you seem have a problem with it, yeah right?

Still arguing...

You're claiming that planeloads of people are being systematically murdered. There is absolutely ZERO evidence to back this up, and you KNOW it.

You are fabricating scenarios in your twisted "mind" simply to defend your fantastical flat earth bullshit.


There is FAR more evidence that these flights are genuine than any indication that your bullshit hypotheses can counter.

Seriously, homeless people usually don't purchase tickets on international flights. Those that DO purchase tickets, fully expect to be transported to their destination. Do you think, after DECADES of posting flights that don't exist", that SOMEONE would complain?

Your little conspiracy basket is more holes than basket, my friend!

still arguing but has started to disrupt the diction.


Nope. You're wrong about evidences. I've logical evidences.

Qantas is claiming these flights are exist. And they are selling it, right? But there isn't anybody say flown on this flights. So there must be anything to them.

You did not read my research about homelesses in Australia, true? Australia is the world's leader depends on homless people statistics. 0,43% of Australians are homeless. This is terrific a lot. This means 4 of all 1000 Aussies are homeless. If an apertment has 15 floors and 60 houses, live about 250 people there. 4 in 1000 means 1 in 250. Inother say, there is one homeless in front of every apertments in Australia. This may be a great problem.

I do not know a good project in Australia to reduce these homeless people. Maybe there is a program aims to reduce their number by illegal ways. Maybe Qantas is leaving them on Antarctica with a few changing its course.

These are logical evidences enough for me. Only real strong evidences can convince me this projects absense.

still arguing...

So Quantas is loading 747s with homeless, and dropping them in Antarctica, just to cover their knowledge of flat Earth?

Got it

still arguing...

This is a thought. I wonder what happens people boarding Qantas Sydney-Santiago flights.

Maybe Qantas taking money from both NASA for deceive world and from Australia government for reducing number of homeless people. This may be a great monetization method. This meanwhile destroys flat earthers who want to try existance of this route.

win-win-win strategy. minimum fuel maximal gain. As a Qantas pilot, All you have to do is go and back from Antarctica and say, "I went and came back from Santiago."

Still arguing with a great idea!

Then suddenly:

Or maybe, and hear me out, maybe these passengers are getting exactly what they paid for. Maybe none of them feel a need to shoot hours and hours of uninterrupted video just to appease some flat earth fucktard.

This is a jerk behaviour, not relevant with anybody to came here for arguing, right?

We are dealing with these bad minded so called humans here in almost every day and generally more than one in a day.
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2019, 11:02:40 PM »
There is somebody around is known as spanky, constantly insulting me. He is a clear ranter, even spamming suggestion subforum for only insult me or targeting me. but racist moderation team is not doing anything about it. I do not want to show his posts because he is already in ignore list.

Look here: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=79272.0

A subforum for suggestions about generally society, the man has mental problem is opening there an issue about a member. What kind of a mental sick human does this?

But NSS also continues his racist speeches about me.

When these events happen, moderation is only wathching and laughting for this. Is this meaning of adopt the believers here? You are delibaretely watching these mental sick people insult / harm us.
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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2019, 08:21:35 AM »
Dear wise, I am keeping an eye on Spanky.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2019, 05:57:07 AM »
Maybe I will hire 100000 people to troll this site to force this site to close down. This probably work. Planning to spend 30 years trying.

We see an angry globularist obviously threatening the flat earth society.

And he has a malapertness to do not afraid courts.

Go on. Sue me. First you have to know which country I am from. Contact the authorities.

You see this? He has not any afraid. Because;

This is a part of a terrorist organization infiltrated the judicial system.

If he was in our country, he would definitely the member of FETÖ. But it takes different names in different countries. Our difference is we are awaken the danger of a criminal structure can infiltrated our judicial system, but many other have not. For example, Russian has awaken. USA is not awaken.

Mister Trump!

Give us the leader of fetö terrorist organization who you are saving!
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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2019, 08:34:01 PM »
We're talking about education in the flat earth society.

And this man is known as sokarul is clearly aiming to manipulate and harrass.

This thread can be moved to complete nonsense now.

This post is reported because all they were ordinary discussings.

disrespecting is reported. somebody has not respect to 26 voters.

Then I wrote I've reported it. Normally it has to be deleted and user has to be warned.

But unfortunately, we don't see such a thing.

disrespecting is reported. somebody has not respect to 26 voters.

You clearly don’t actually care about the content of the OP.

He clearly has not contribute anything the topic, just repeat same baseless claims. But all moderation team is only watching. It is clear, somebody is giving his role to manipulate. Because somebody who is leading him is uncomfortable from the results. So that forcing the topic to be manipulated and gone to garbage as soon as possible, whether it deserves it or not. And they try to achieve this with a troll who is clearly supported by our so called flat; but racist angry globularis management team!
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Re: Globist terror on the flat earth society (Wailing wall of believers)
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2019, 06:48:24 AM »
One more time, racist / cruel /brutal moderation team made me unfairly ban.

What I made for this?

Moderators and admins here are calling one of our members as "shitter". This is an insult in my opinion. But whenever I call them do not do this, they do not care. What that means?

I've opened a topic in Angry Ranting and called people do not use shitter word for shifter. Because he is shifter, not the shitter.

Then they have banned me because of swearing at the topic.

"Shifter is not shitter" is not a swear. If it would so, so forum rules are required to ban both "Space cowgirl", "boydster" and more other moderators to be banned because of swearing members is forbid according to forum rules.

This is a hypocricy. A brutal admins/mode terror in forum.

They are swearing people with free of charge!

But whenever we critise they do, they are banning me because of using the swear term (same with they use).

These are nothing but a bunch of racist, cruel moderation.

God damn all. Firstly boydster and space cowgirl, then others whose gave them authority. God damn John Davis..
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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2019, 10:54:53 PM »
Sorry the serious business council is out tonight.  You will have to wait to file your "God damn John Davis" complaint later, or visit http://tfes.org.
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« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2019, 10:55:25 PM »
Seriously though, bad job all around wise. Come on.
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Re: Globist terror on the flat earth society (Wailing wall of believers)
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2019, 01:19:43 AM »
Maybe it is the time going to create an alternative forum that admins not geting alt accounts, not insulting believers, not leting globulards swearing believers, but supporting their projects.

In short, public needs a place admins aren't acting like a piece of shit. I'm not sure to do this, but I'm sure I am not in same class with globulards.

That's all for now, folks.
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« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2019, 11:30:22 PM »
Globularist atheist / anti religional people are spreading their hate speeches with support of our racist management team. They say they are not racist, we say they are not racist; so, how can an ordinary manager resists to do not move those hate/racist thread to AR but holds it in an open forum?:

This is not a member, this is not a user, this is clearly a son of a wh*re who opens this thread, and who did not lock it.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=81364.0

This is clearly a hate speech against religions, prophets. So if we draw a picture a monkey f*cks Einstein, a Graffe f*cks Richard Dawkings, can use them as an argument in sick/racist your mentality, right?
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« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2019, 11:06:37 PM »
Insulting as an argument for angry globularists. We often see this.

Water is not colorless, it is blue.
"Scientist" Wise sets a new record for saying the dumbest thing.

"Dumbest thing". What an argument. So I am wrong, because the opposite argument is irresistible "dumbest thing". I gave up the discussion because he has discovered me talked the dumbest thing, right?. Okay. Angry globularists are the define of the retard.
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I have been got banned by our "Flat Earth Society management" again during past three days. Because some globularists have formed a group opposed to me to get banned. Interestingly rabinoz is saying me being a friend of globularist theory because I show FE theory as ridiculous. If I show the FE theory as ridiculous so could not he be my biggest supporter here because of defend same theories he defend? Because he has got banned because of harrasing me earlier. As a revenge they had a counter agressivity like this.

for this occasion I want to talk a bit about discussings in society. As we all know, the two notorious globularists and their supporters have closed down the discussion forum. they wellcome newcomers at the door and claim that our theories are ridiculous and inaccurate. Although we are free to enter the discussion forum, we are lynched by this group and its fans every time we try it. if you are pay attention, there are only globalists in the discussion forum. and when any one of us enters this forum, fierce globalists and supporters are attacking directly. this is not for the general purpose of the discussion forum.

the newcomer come here is probably not coming to hear the global theories again and again. there is already enough number of globalist forum for this. they come here to discuss with people who believe in the flat earth on any subject. Although we know this situation, we are still not keen to discuss with these people. because we know that some of the most prominent globalists are eagerly awaiting us for fly at us. they use the following expressions to provoke us to be involved in the discussion: "You see, flat-earthers don't have an answer to these questions" or "you see, they are also aware that the earth is not flat". we are becoming the target of the same group in these discussions where we are involved in pressure, provocation. and the subject is developing in the direction of the subject of the fierce resident globularists here, not in the direction of the subject. The fierce globalists, who are openly residenting in the forum, prevent the discussion of newcomers and flat-earthers about flat earth theories. this causes the forum to move away from its actual function.

The theory of flat earth is not ridiculous or nonsense. but because more than one notorious globalist attacked at the same time, we cannot find enough time to defend ourselves and our theories. it is clear that there is no point in entering the discussion forum without taking the one-to-one discussion platform suggested by some flat earthers here earlier.

now the reality of the forum management and fierce globularists should get the truth. people do not come here again to listen to globalist claims. people are coming to the wiki section and the believers section to learn about flat earth, and the discussion forum to discuss with the flat earthers. everyone must act in accordance with this fact.

If life is a game, then everyone must play according to the game rule.
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I asked you very simply (and repeatedly! and told you that I'd have to ban you if you didn't cut it out!) to stop making posts like the following in the upper boards because they are low content:
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<rubbish deleted>
I'm ignoring so, so I won't reply to you

You could have chosen to heed those warnings. I had already given you the benefit of the doubt when I banned other parties about posts you had raised concerns about.

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1- boydster is an agressor in my ignore list.

2- This is the wailing wall of the believers, but not the court room. This situation will not mean anything for people who are rude or inhuman.

3- We can read short of my complains as "management has not any respect to us". And boydster is proving this complains by not showing any respect to general tendency of this page.
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I'm allowed to post. You aren't a martyr that was wronged. You received several warnings for the exact same thing, and you chose to keep pushing it. I told you if it happened again, you'd get time off. And you still didn't stop.

Don't pretend like this is some kind of wrong that has been done to you over your beliefs. You were given more than ample warning.

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It is clear that boydster who continue to post here forcing me to open his post and reply him; by same logic with Notsoskeptical is a clear turd in mind of I open the ignore posts. It is clear that boydster is doing it with this only. He is weak. I am strong enough to don't open/care his posts. He is an agressor and I deny to open his agressive posts. if I was a person who loved messaging, my mailbox would be full of messages. whereas for the past months I've never been messaging with anyone. I did not send a PM to anybody and anybody did not sent me a PM in past 30 days. it means I don't like so much to correspond with people. especially with someone who is on my legally ignore list. I think some of moderators here are using their powers in bad faith and not deserving to have it.

In short, boydster has turned a Notsoskeptical in my side.

boyster who is swooping the wailing wall of believers like a  Hitler, a Vlad the Impelar in my side. he is a tyrant who tends to forcibly people to accepted that he is right because he has a power here. I don't care about that. it is his ugliness.
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