The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods

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The axis of the rotating bullet is constantly directed along the flight of the bullet. Therefore, a bullet in a circular orbit around the Sun is not pointed at a single point on the Celestial Sphere. Therefore, the Earth axis (in orbit around the Sun) should make a full circle (with an angular radius of about 23 degrees) for one year cycle. Why does the Earth axis look at the North Star, and does not draw this huge annual circle across the sky?

There is obvious fact: axis of Earth rotation must not be pointed at the area of North Star during one year cycle. But it is pointed. Thus, the official Science either lies or is incompetent. Correct? Yes. And the Flat Earth model is consistent with Nature here.

USED THEOREM:
The axis of the revolving bullet is constantly directed along the flight of the bullet.
PROOF, WHICH BOTH HOLDS FOR NEWTON AND FOR EINSTEIN:
We let out a cloud of bullets from the super-machine gun, they are not rotating, only one bullet in the cloud rotates and the axis of its rotation is initially directed along the flight of the cloud of bullets. As thought experiment let us surround the cloud of bullets with a flying spaceship. In order for non-rotating bullets to be stationary relative to the ship's hull, the hull is directed along the bullet's flight. And since free bullets soar in the weightlessness of the ship, the ship is an inertial frame of reference. And in such a system the law of rotation-momentum conservation of the bullet is fulfilled: the bullet will always be aimed along the ship's hull. The hull flies along the flight of a cloud of bullets.

More with formulas is in:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/324950713_Can_someone_show_in_detail_the_derivation_of_Celestial_Pole_precession_within_General_Relativity_formalism

Following file is old version:
 http://vixra.org/abs/1805.0048
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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2018, 05:53:10 AM »
The axis of the rotating bullet is constantly directed along the flight of the bullet.

Not to burst your bubble, but no :(. If it's pulled inwards, it should orbit but its absolute direction should stay the same (like always pointed north or something). Foucault pendulums show this. They move along on the surface of the Earth but their motion stays pointed the way it started and doesn't match the Earth's rotation.

A bullet that's shot horizontally and falls down to the ground, also, will still be horizontal when it lands, instead of pointing along the path it fell.
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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2018, 06:02:25 AM »
The axis of the rotating bullet is constantly directed along the flight of the bullet.

Not to burst your bubble, but no :(. If it's pulled inwards, it should orbit but its absolute direction should stay the same (like always pointed north or something). Foucault pendulums show this. They move along on the surface of the Earth but their motion stays pointed the way it started and doesn't match the Earth's rotation.

A bullet that's shot horizontally and falls down to the ground, also, will still be horizontal when it lands, instead of pointing along the path it fell.

1. I have solid proof math in the file, see the link.
2. I am author in Physical Review, thus I understand the Legal Science.
3. Foucault pendulum responds to Earth rotation: the test is well known as proof of Earth rotation.
4. Either nobody has looked at direction of bullet hit, or Science hides the real facts.
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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2018, 06:18:55 AM »
The axis of the rotating bullet is constantly directed along the flight of the bullet.

But not necessarily.  This is advantageous to external ballistic performance.  Every rifled firearm I am aware of rotates the projectile in a plane normal to it's path of travel (not accounting for yaw). 

 
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Therefore, a bullet in a circular orbit around the Sun is not pointed at a single point on the Celestial Sphere.

Well why couldn't it be?  What shape of bullet are you referring to (spherical, ogive) and why couldn't it's spin axis be aligned with the north star while also orbiting the sun?

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Therefore, the Earth axis (in orbit around the Sun) should make a full circle (with an angular radius of about 23 degrees) for one year cycle.

Non-Sequitur?

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Why does the Earth axis look at the North Star, and does not draw this huge annual circle across the sky?

What circle is necessary?

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There is obvious fact: axis of Earth rotation must not be pointed at the area of North Star during one year cycle. But it is pointed. Thus, the official Science either lies or is incompetent. Correct? Yes. And the Flat Earth model is consistent with Nature here.

Contrived?

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More with formulas is in:
https://www.researchgate.net/post/Dark_Matter_Dark_Energy_Dark_Force_now

Do you have a specific link you are referring to?

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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2018, 06:21:40 AM »
You are an author of Physical Review. I want to believe that means you edit /author/review scientific papers.

And you are not aware that there is a group of people usually known as Them or They who from hiding "tell us" what "science" is? Lying science?

I wonder now who is really lying.

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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2018, 06:34:09 AM »
The axis of the rotating bullet is constantly directed along the flight of the bullet.

Not to burst your bubble, but no :(. If it's pulled inwards, it should orbit but its absolute direction should stay the same (like always pointed north or something). Foucault pendulums show this. They move along on the surface of the Earth but their motion stays pointed the way it started and doesn't match the Earth's rotation.

A bullet that's shot horizontally and falls down to the ground, also, will still be horizontal when it lands, instead of pointing along the path it fell.

1. I have solid proof math in the file, see the link.
2. I am author in Physical Review, thus I understand the Legal Science.
3. Foucault pendulum responds to Earth rotation: the test is well known as proof of Earth rotation.
4. Either nobody has looked at direction of bullet hit, or Science hides the real facts.

I already tried the link. It doesn't work and redirects to the list of topics of research gate :/.

2. Congrats :D

3. It responds by not matching with the Earth's rotation, yeah, that's what I said. It doesn't automatically follow the path it rotates along.

4. idk maybe
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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2018, 06:39:46 AM »
The axis of the rotating bullet is constantly directed along the flight of the bullet. Therefore, a bullet in a circular orbit around the Sun is not pointed at a single point on the Celestial Sphere.

This is not correct.

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Therefore, the Earth axis (in orbit around the Sun) should make a full circle (with an angular radius of about 23 degrees) for one year cycle. Why does the Earth axis look at the North Star, and does not draw this huge annual circle across the sky?

There is obvious fact: axis of Earth rotation must not be pointed at the area of North Star during one year cycle. But it is pointed. Thus, the official Science either lies or is incompetent. Correct? Yes. And the Flat Earth model is consistent with Nature here.

Your premise is wrong so your conclusion is meaningless.

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More with formulas is in:
https://www.researchgate.net/post/Dark_Matter_Dark_Energy_Dark_Force_now

1. I have solid proof math in the file, see the link.

That is just a list of links.

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2. I am author in Physical Review, thus I understand the Legal Science.

Yeah, sure you are...
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2018, 07:04:54 AM »
I already tried the link. It doesn't work and redirects to the list of topics of research gate :/.
My browsers do open the link. There is link to the file BMD8.pdf in the link. All my web-browsers do open it. So, try to install Firefox browser.

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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2018, 07:06:36 AM »
I already tried the link. It doesn't work and redirects to the list of topics of research gate :/.
My browsers do open the link. There is link to the file BMD8.pdf in the link. All my web-browsers do open it. So, try to install Firefox browser.

Do you have a login at ResearchGate?
If "deserving" time was a factor for responding on these forums, then no one would be here posting.

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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2018, 07:09:44 AM »
3. It responds by not matching with the Earth's rotation, yeah, that's what I said. It doesn't automatically follow the path it rotates along.
Yes, because it is attached by a cord to the building. And the building is fixed on Earth. Thus, the motion of pendulum is a bit complicated. My bullet freely flies.

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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2018, 07:11:45 AM »
I already tried the link. It doesn't work and redirects to the list of topics of research gate :/.
My browsers do open the link. There is link to the file BMD8.pdf in the link. All my web-browsers do open it. So, try to install Firefox browser.
Do you have a login at ResearchGate?
Yes, indeed.

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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2018, 07:17:51 AM »
I already tried the link. It doesn't work and redirects to the list of topics of research gate :/.
My browsers do open the link. There is link to the file BMD8.pdf in the link. All my web-browsers do open it. So, try to install Firefox browser.
Do you have a login at ResearchGate?
Yes, indeed.

Did it cross your mind that the link you provided will only work if you have a login to the webpage?

Here is a thought.  Why don't you just copy the data onto this topic?
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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2018, 07:18:51 AM »
Do you have a specific link you are referring to?
O.K. Friends, please wait a day for viXra to accept my file. The researchgate link requires registration, whereby perhaps the affiliation with academic institutions is necessary. I am sorry.

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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2018, 07:20:47 AM »
Do you have a specific link you are referring to?
O.K. Friends, please wait a day for viXra to accept my file. The researchgate link requires registration, whereby perhaps the affiliation with academic institutions is necessary. I am sorry.

Why don't you just post your information directly here?
If "deserving" time was a factor for responding on these forums, then no one would be here posting.

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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2018, 07:21:39 AM »
3. It responds by not matching with the Earth's rotation, yeah, that's what I said. It doesn't automatically follow the path it rotates along.
Yes, because it is attached by a cord to the building. And the building is fixed on Earth. Thus, the motion of pendulum is a bit complicated. My bullet freely flies.

So yess it does. I don't get how that helps the bullet though. It the pendulum followed the path and direction of the earth, then it would always look the same on earth and we couldn't tell that earth was moving. But we can tell, because it really tries to do something different.

Also, we might need researchgate logins to open the file you sent

Edit - oh viXra
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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2018, 07:25:34 AM »
Do you have a specific link you are referring to?
O.K. Friends, please wait a day for viXra to accept my file. The researchgate link requires registration, whereby perhaps the affiliation with academic institutions is necessary. I am sorry.
Why don't you just post your information directly here?
It has 7 pages with formulas.
Please wait a day for viXra to accept it.

Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2018, 07:32:39 AM »

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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2018, 07:46:11 AM »
Do you have a specific link you are referring to?
O.K. Friends, please wait a day for viXra to accept my file. The researchgate link requires registration, whereby perhaps the affiliation with academic institutions is necessary. I am sorry.
Why don't you just post your information directly here?
It has 7 pages with formulas.
Please wait a day for viXra to accept it.

While we wait, can you explain this legal science method?
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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2018, 08:10:38 AM »
The axis of the rotating bullet is constantly directed along the flight of the bullet. Therefore, a bullet in a circular orbit around the Sun is not pointed at a single point on the Celestial Sphere.

This is not correct.

Thanks for the clarification.  I noticed I was being sloppy in stating:

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Every rifled firearm I am aware of rotates the projectile in a plane normal to it's path of travel (not accounting for yaw).

This is not true technically regarding the path of travel.  I was thinking about the purpose of spinning a bullet (smoothbore musket vs. riflings) but failed to account for the difference in path of travel and the plane the bullet spins in not necessarily being aligned at all times as the bullet travels downrange.  What I said is only approximately/practically true, again ignoring yaw of repose, during a bullet's initial displacement traveling down the barrel and right after exit but not downrange some distance.

Even though there is some 7 pages of calculation (apparently) I am still wondering what the attempted argument/conclusion being made even is?

Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2018, 08:26:37 AM »
Do you have a specific link you are referring to?
O.K. Friends, please wait a day for viXra to accept my file. The researchgate link requires registration, whereby perhaps the affiliation with academic institutions is necessary. I am sorry.

Posting the abstract would be helpful for people to decide if it's a topic of interest to them.

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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2018, 08:44:13 AM »
While we wait, can you explain this legal science method?
THEOREM:
The axis of the revolving bullet is constantly directed along the flight of the bullet.
PROOF, WHICH BOTH HOLDS FOR NEWTON AND FOR EINSTEIN:
We let out a cloud of bullets from the super-machine gun, they are not rotating, only one bullet in the cloud rotates and the axis of its rotation is initially directed along the flight of the cloud of bullets. As thought experiment let us surround the cloud of bullets with a flying spaceship. In order for non-rotating bullets to be stationary relative to the ship's hull, the hull is directed along the bullet's flight. And since free bullets soar in the weightlessness of the ship, the ship is an inertial frame of reference. And in such a system the law of rotation-momentum conservation of the bullet is fulfilled: the bullet will always be aimed along the ship's hull. The hull flies along the flight of a cloud of bullets.

Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2018, 09:01:58 AM »

THEOREM:
The axis of the revolving bullet is constantly directed along the flight of the bullet.
PROOF, WHICH BOTH HOLDS FOR NEWTON AND FOR EINSTEIN:
We let out a cloud of bullets from the super-machine gun, they are not rotating, only one bullet in the cloud rotates and the axis of its rotation is initially directed along the flight of the cloud of bullets. As thought experiment let us surround the cloud of bullets with a flying spaceship. In order for non-rotating bullets to be stationary relative to the ship's hull, the hull is directed along the bullet's flight. And since free bullets soar in the weightlessness of the ship, the ship is an inertial frame of reference. And in such a system the law of rotation-momentum conservation of the bullet is fulfilled: the bullet will always be aimed along the ship's hull. The hull flies along the flight of a cloud of bullets.


Please post your writing in your native language. Your English translation is confusing.

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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2018, 09:15:14 AM »
Please post your writing in your native language. Your English translation is confusing.
ИСПОЛЬЗУМАЯ ТЕОРЕМА:
"Ось вращающейся пули постоянно направлена вдоль полёта пули"
ДОКАЗАТЕЛЬСТВО:
Выпустим из супер-пулемёта облако пуль, все они не вращающиеся, только одна пуля в облаке вращается и ось её вращения изначально направлена вдоль полёта облака пуль. Окружим это облако пуль летящим кораблём. Чтобы не-вращающиеся пули были неподвижны относительно корпуса корабля, корпус направлен вдоль полёта пуль. А так как свободные пули парят в невесомости корабля, то корабль есть инерциальная система отсчёта. А в такой системе выполняется закон сохранения момента импульса вращающейся пули: пуля всегда будет нацелена вдоль корпуса корабля. Корпус же летит вдоль полёта облака пуль. 

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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2018, 09:18:41 AM »
I already tried the link. It doesn't work and redirects to the list of topics of research gate :/.
My browsers do open the link. There is link to the file BMD8.pdf in the link. All my web-browsers do open it. So, try to install Firefox browser.
Do you have to be logged in because all I get is a huge list of topics.
Since it costs 2.72¢ to produce a penny, putting in your 2¢ if really worth 5.44¢.

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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2018, 09:24:05 AM »
I already tried the link. It doesn't work and redirects to the list of topics of research gate :/.
My browsers do open the link. There is link to the file BMD8.pdf in the link. All my web-browsers do open it. So, try to install Firefox browser.
Do you have to be logged in because all I get is a huge list of topics.
Yes, you need the registration. But I have sent file to viXra, soon it would be accepted. Soon there be link to viXra. Thank you.

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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2018, 09:29:14 AM »
Ok, but I can punch a giant whole in your theory using a football (American).  When football is thrown in a spiral, the ball spirals on its axis while at the same time the ball follows an arced (ballistic) path.  The axis of the football will remain relative to it's release point.  The axis does not follow the arc.  You can see this very clearly on very long passes, where the ball is thrown with a high arc.  The axis does not change when the ball has reached it's peak and begins to come back to the ground.
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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2018, 09:34:17 AM »
Ok, but I can punch a giant whole in your theory using a football (American).  When football is thrown in a spiral, the ball spirals on its axis while at the same time the ball follows an arced (ballistic) path.  The axis of the football will remain relative to it's release point.  The axis does not follow the arc.  You can see this very clearly on very long passes, where the ball is thrown with a high arc.  The axis does not change when the ball has reached it's peak and begins to come back to the ground.
1. Air resistance.
2. I should watch it myself.
3. The "Light Force", which is introduced in the file. This new force-field makes the spacecrafts and airplanes travel ring-way in the Flat Earth model.

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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2018, 10:19:07 AM »
While we wait, can you explain this legal science method?
THEOREM:
The axis of the revolving bullet is constantly directed along the flight of the bullet.
PROOF, WHICH BOTH HOLDS FOR NEWTON AND FOR EINSTEIN:
We let out a cloud of bullets from the super-machine gun, they are not rotating, only one bullet in the cloud rotates and the axis of its rotation is initially directed along the flight of the cloud of bullets. As thought experiment let us surround the cloud of bullets with a flying spaceship. In order for non-rotating bullets to be stationary relative to the ship's hull, the hull is directed along the bullet's flight. And since free bullets soar in the weightlessness of the ship, the ship is an inertial frame of reference. And in such a system the law of rotation-momentum conservation of the bullet is fulfilled: the bullet will always be aimed along the ship's hull. The hull flies along the flight of a cloud of bullets.

This derivation is done without gravity :p. Under those conditions, sure, I agree with you. But then it doesn't apply to orbit.
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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2018, 10:40:12 AM »
Yea Earth is flat
Don't be shy to say, They fooled us, and now I waked up

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Re: The proof of Flat Earth model within the Legal Science methods
« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2018, 10:42:34 AM »

Ok, but I can punch a giant whole in your theory using a football (American).  When football is thrown in a spiral, the ball spirals on its axis while at the same time the ball follows an arced (ballistic) path.  The axis of the football will remain relative to it's release point.  The axis does not follow the arc.  You can see this very clearly on very long passes, where the ball is thrown with a high arc.  The axis does not change when the ball has reached it's peak and begins to come back to the ground.

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1. Air resistance.

It is the spinning motion of the football that creates a gyroscopic effect and stabilizes the spin axis not air resistance.  Gyroscopes work without air resistance.
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