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roundearthson

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« on: January 01, 2007, 10:11:30 PM »
if the earth is flat how come it takes only a few hours to get from one side of the world to the other when they're supposedly thousands of miles apart?
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2007, 11:04:25 PM »
Huh? The only way you can get from one side of the Earth to the other in a few hours is by plane. Why do you think airplanes would work any differently if the Earth is flat?
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2007, 01:44:28 AM »
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Huh? The only way you can get from one side of the Earth to the other in a few hours is by plane. Why do you think airplanes would work any differently if the Earth is flat?

Well, they would at the higher latitudes towards Antarctica. On a round earth, a trip following the 70 degree south latitude would take a significantly shorter time than a plane flying at the 70 degree south latitude on a flat Earth.
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roundearthson

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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2007, 04:31:33 PM »
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Huh? The only way you can get from one side of the Earth to the other in a few hours is by plane. Why do you think airplanes would work any differently if the Earth is flat?


 :lol:  if i was in Alaska and I wanted to go to Russia it would only take a few hours to get there since the world is round but if it was flat it would take alot longer so that's what I don't get unless the government puts something in the food on the planes to knock us out and make us feel like it's only a few hours which I highly doubt.  :roll:
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GeoGuy

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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2007, 04:32:32 PM »
Why would it take longer? How exactly do you think the FE map is laid out?
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roundearthson

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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2007, 04:36:45 PM »
^ you would have to go all the way across the whole North American continent if the earth was flat. If it's round you can go the exact opposite way.
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GeoGuy

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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2007, 04:38:25 PM »
No you wouldn't. You'd take the exact same route you would on a RE. Take a look at the logo at the top of your page for a rough map of the FE.
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« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2007, 04:41:29 PM »
that is just africa
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he kinds of equations that they have now are the kinds of equations you would get in an approximation scheme to some underlying theory, but nobody knows what the underlying theory is.

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GeoGuy

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« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2007, 04:44:35 PM »
I'm sorry? Would you mind clarifying that?
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sodapop112

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just africa
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2007, 04:52:58 PM »
that is just a stupid drawing of what looks like africa, a weird thing on the left,  and some stars on the oceans. any evidence the world actually looks like this?
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he kinds of equations that they have now are the kinds of equations you would get in an approximation scheme to some underlying theory, but nobody knows what the underlying theory is.

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GeoGuy

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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2007, 05:05:00 PM »
That "stupid drawing" happens to be a map of the six continents, with the north pole at the center.
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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2007, 05:09:11 PM »
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that is just africa


LOL :lol:
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2007, 05:10:08 PM »
Someone please reiterate why planes flying "around the RE" over Antarctica from, say, Cape Town to Sydney, go directly over Antarctica, and not around it?
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2007, 05:12:04 PM »
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Someone please reiterate why planes flying "around the RE" over Antarctica from, say, Cape Town to Sydney, go directly over Antarctica, and not around it?


As stated elsewhere, they aren't. You are just lead to believe they are.
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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2007, 05:13:25 PM »
Posting in a legendary thread.
+1  8-)
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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2007, 05:15:49 PM »
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Someone please reiterate why planes flying "around the RE" over Antarctica from, say, Cape Town to Sydney, go directly over Antarctica, and not around it?


As stated elsewhere, they aren't. You are just lead to believe they are.
Me, and the pilots, and ATC?

Just how many people are on the payroll?
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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2007, 05:18:04 PM »
He's actually quite right. I've made these pictures as example:

On a flat earth, a trip around the 55 S latitude would look like this:
http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=triparound55slatitudevt7.jpg


I did a few calculations. From the north pole to the south pole there is 12,500 miles. So the 55 S latitude must be 135 degrees from the north pole. Right, we all agree? Ok, now, one degree is equal to 69,44 miles (12,500/180). SO!
135 * 69,44 = 8680 miles from the north pole to the 55s latitude or the 135 degree.

So in order to find the route as shown above, you have to multiply 8680*2 with pi = 54,510 miles round. Now, that would take AGES even in an airplane

Well, for goodness sake, I will make an example with a round earth too.

http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=triparound55slatituderehb6.jpg


On a round earth, the trip would be like this. Now, I don't know how to calculate it, so I did a path measurement in Google Earth. The trip? It was 14,500 miles long.



IN CONCLUSION:
A round earth trip:    14,500 miles
A flat earth trip:        54,500 miles

Let's say an average passenger jet flyes around 500 miles/hour.

A trip around the round earth:    29 hrs
A trip around the flat earth:      109 hrs

The rest is up for you to decide.
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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2007, 05:24:28 PM »
But you're still using googleEarth to do your RE measurements.

Bald: YOU are lead to believe. The pilots are either on the payroll or not, depending on how far you believe the conspiracy reaches. All this is covered elsewhere.
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2007, 05:30:48 PM »
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But you're still using googleEarth to do your RE measurements.


Ok, if this is your only arguement to reject it, then you are out of luck.

I could EASILY calculate it, I just don't know how to, since I'm not that advanced in mathematics yet.

If you, by whatever reason, choose to believe all my numbers but this one, then if someone is bothered to calculate it, you will see my hypothesis is correct.
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2007, 07:10:23 PM »
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I could EASILY calculate it, I just don't know how to


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GeoGuy

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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2007, 07:42:02 PM »
:shock:  indeed.
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Theissen

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« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2007, 03:58:57 AM »
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I could EASILY calculate it, I just don't know how to, since I'm not that advanced in mathematics yet.


What I mean is that I don't have the formula to do it. If I did, I could calculate it. When you have a sphere, how do you calculate how long it is at a certain point? Let's say 55 degrees south?

Now, I would get the same result as I did measuring it. So therefore my calculations are correct.

Still, you haven't bothered answering the question or replying to my calculations but rather started attacking the structure of my post; a clear sign of losing.
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« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2007, 11:42:13 AM »
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But you're still using googleEarth to do your RE measurements.


It's still blatantly obvious that the same trips in the same direction on a flat earth and round earth are significantly, measurably, and just-look-at-the-picture shorter on a round earth.
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« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2007, 01:52:54 PM »
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It's still blatantly obvious that the same trips in the same direction on a flat earth and round earth are significantly, measurably, and just-look-at-the-picture shorter on a round earth.


I'm fairly sure he was saying the trip was longer on the RE model, but that aside, what exactly do you want us to address? You do a few calculations, and then pull some numbers out of googleEarth, and declare FE disproven.....
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« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2007, 02:03:59 PM »
He said:

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IN CONCLUSION:
A round earth trip: 14,500 miles
A flat earth trip: 54,500 miles

Let's say an average passenger jet flyes around 500 miles/hour.

A trip around the round earth: 29 hrs
A trip around the flat earth: 109 hrs


I am pretty sure that means a round earth trip is shorter.

What we're proving is that when people travel from a place like Melbourne, Australia, to another place in southern part of the sourthern hemisphere like the tip of Africa, it doesn't take anywhere near 100 hours in a commercial jet at 500 mi/hr. However, according to the flat earth, it should about 100 hours. This doesn't happen, so there goes the flat earth theory.

Good job, theissen.
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« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2007, 02:14:46 PM »
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I am pretty sure that means a round earth trip is shorter.

What we're proving is that when people travel from a place like Melbourne, Australia, to another place in southern part of the sourthern hemisphere like the tip of Africa, it doesn't take anywhere near 100 hours in a commercial jet at 500 mi/hr. However, according to the flat earth, it should about 100 hours. This doesn't happen, so there goes the flat earth theory.

Good job, theissen.


Oops, my bad, I didn't read his post properly. And he was actually talking about going from one spot to the same spot. Not a different location.
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« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2007, 02:28:15 PM »
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Oops, my bad, I didn't read his post properly. And he was actually talking about going from one spot to the same spot. Not a different location.


My bad, too. I forgot that he was talking about going from one spot to the same spot.

But extrapolating from his calculations, a trip from Melbourne, Australia, to Cape Town, South Africa, on a round earth should be significantly shorter than a trip from Melbourne to Cape Town on a flat earth. In fact it would be a similar distance from Tokyo, Japan, to Cairo, Egypt on a round earth. On a flat earth it would be a significantly longer distance than from Tokyo to Cairo. And if that were true, more people than just you guys would be talking about a flat earth.
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« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2007, 06:59:03 AM »
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I am pretty sure that means a round earth trip is shorter.

What we're proving is that when people travel from a place like Melbourne, Australia, to another place in southern part of the sourthern hemisphere like the tip of Africa, it doesn't take anywhere near 100 hours in a commercial jet at 500 mi/hr. However, according to the flat earth, it should about 100 hours. This doesn't happen, so there goes the flat earth theory.

Good job, theissen.


Oops, my bad, I didn't read his post properly. And he was actually talking about going from one spot to the same spot. Not a different location.


You can fly from Melbourne to South Africa and the trip on the FE would be significantly longer than what it is on a RE.

You should now how long it takes, Rick, considering you live in Australia. Well, that' assuming you have flown before.

This is actually a very easy experiment without requiring too much knowledge about physics, mathematics, or other such things. The only thing you need is a timewatch and someone willing to fly for 109 hou.. uh, I mean 29 hours.
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« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2007, 07:15:45 AM »
There's actually worm slices that exist all across the earth. These are responsible for confusing people in the distances they travel.
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« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2007, 07:46:22 AM »
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There's actually worm slices that exist all across the earth. These are responsible for confusing people in the distances they travel.


Wow, another amazing resident of this website, I am in awe of your knowledge!!   :lol:
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