Psychographics and Social Media Psyops SCL and Cambridge Analytica

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This is a complex topic, and bound to cause confusion as people divide along predetermined lines of thought.

It's been established that SCL and it's subsidiary Cambridge Analytica has used data driven psychological targetting to influence public perception and election results,  in dozens of countries,  Brexit and the 2016 US Presidential elections,  Kenyatta re-election in Kenya (twice),  the Polish Elections and anti-eu media campaign,  Erdogan's campaign in Turkey,   I suspect Hungarian, Austrian, and Italian election results of the past year have been skewed by these "psychographic"  techniques. 

What's the motive?  and why does Robert Mercer's name keep popping up?

Some research materials.   Cambridge Analytica claims to have been employed in hundreds of election campaigns and lists numerous case studies on it's web site.
 
https://ca-political.com/casestudies/

The background of SCL is British Military Intelligence and they have "ListX" status with the MoD.   https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/21/mod-cambridge-analytica-parent-company-scl-group-list-x

SCL is contracted to the US State Department,  psychographic profiling of Iranians who want regime change perhaps?   
https://medium.com/textifire/scl-group-joins-the-us-state-dept-ad5cac8155ff

This rabbit hole is about as deep as it gets.   :)


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Re: Psychographics and Social Media Psyops SCL and Cambridge Analytica
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2018, 07:36:24 PM »
https://ca-political.com/casestudies/

From the link:
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Cambridge Analytica provided the Donald J. Trump for President campaign with the expertise and insights that helped win the White House.

If the first sentence of a story is a summary conclusion, move on.


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/21/mod-cambridge-analytica-parent-company-scl-group-list-x

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The work on Project Duco is likely to raise concerns that government officials were aware of Cambridge Analytica and SCL’s operations, and intended to use them to promote government messages.

Conjecture. Next.

https://medium.com/textifire/scl-group-joins-the-us-state-dept-ad5cac8155ff

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. . . aided by the recent lobbying and advisement of the disgraced former National Security Adviser and now-registered foreign agent Michael Flynn.

'disgraced' is not a news term. Pass.


See how it works?
 

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Re: Psychographics and Social Media Psyops SCL and Cambridge Analytica
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2018, 07:42:37 PM »
https://ca-political.com/casestudies/

From the link:
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Cambridge Analytica provided the Donald J. Trump for President campaign with the expertise and insights that helped win the White House.

If the first sentence of a story is a summary conclusion, move on.

It's not a news story, it's a sales pitch, offering a service.  We fix elections for you.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/21/mod-cambridge-analytica-parent-company-scl-group-list-x

From the link:
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The work on Project Duco is likely to raise concerns that government officials were aware of Cambridge Analytica and SCL’s operations, and intended to use them to promote government messages.

Conjecture. Next.

Stick with the facts. 

https://medium.com/textifire/scl-group-joins-the-us-state-dept-ad5cac8155ff

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. . . aided by the recent lobbying and advisement of the disgraced former National Security Adviser and now-registered foreign agent Michael Flynn.

'disgraced' is not a news term. Pass.


See how it works?


So keep reading,  and BTW  "disgraced former National Security Adviser"  is exactly what Michael Flynn is.


 
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Re: Psychographics and Social Media Psyops SCL and Cambridge Analytica
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2018, 07:56:16 PM »
If the first sentence of a story is a summary conclusion, move on.

It's not a news story, it's a sales pitch, offering a service.  We fix elections for you.


I went back and read further. Oh SHIT!

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. . . we consistently identified the most persuadable voters . . .

I stand by my decision to bail after the first sentence. More people should.

Lucky thing marketing is not done under oath.  ;D

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Re: Psychographics and Social Media Psyops SCL and Cambridge Analytica
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2018, 07:58:40 PM »

So keep reading,  and BTW  "disgraced former National Security Adviser"  is exactly what Michael Flynn is.



No, 'disgraced' is an opinion of a situation.

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Re: Psychographics and Social Media Psyops SCL and Cambridge Analytica
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2018, 08:06:48 PM »

So keep reading,  and BTW  "disgraced former National Security Adviser"  is exactly what Michael Flynn is.



No, 'disgraced' is an opinion of a situation.

Getting sacked from the job of National Security Advisor because you are in cahoots with the Russians to subvert  US Government policy is not a disgrace anymore?   
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Re: Psychographics and Social Media Psyops SCL and Cambridge Analytica
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2018, 08:11:31 PM »

So keep reading,  and BTW  "disgraced former National Security Adviser"  is exactly what Michael Flynn is.



No, 'disgraced' is an opinion of a situation.

Getting sacked from the job of National Security Advisor because you are in cahoots with the Russians to subvert  US Government policy is not a disgrace anymore?   


(Psssst, your bias is sticking out.)

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Re: Psychographics and Social Media Psyops SCL and Cambridge Analytica
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2018, 08:12:48 PM »

So keep reading,  and BTW  "disgraced former National Security Adviser"  is exactly what Michael Flynn is.



No, 'disgraced' is an opinion of a situation.

Getting sacked from the job of National Security Advisor because you are in cahoots with the Russians to subvert  US Government policy is not a disgrace anymore?   


(Psssst, your bias is sticking out.)

Nope,  he pleaded guilty.  No bias required.
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Re: Psychographics and Social Media Psyops SCL and Cambridge Analytica
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2018, 08:20:08 PM »

So keep reading,  and BTW  "disgraced former National Security Adviser"  is exactly what Michael Flynn is.



No, 'disgraced' is an opinion of a situation.

Getting sacked from the job of National Security Advisor because you are in cahoots with the Russians to subvert  US Government policy is not a disgrace anymore?   


(Psssst, your bias is sticking out.)

Nope,  he pleaded guilty.  No bias required.

He did not plead guilty to being "in cahoots with the Russians to subvert US Government policy".





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Re: Psychographics and Social Media Psyops SCL and Cambridge Analytica
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2018, 08:39:53 PM »

So keep reading,  and BTW  "disgraced former National Security Adviser"  is exactly what Michael Flynn is.



No, 'disgraced' is an opinion of a situation.

Getting sacked from the job of National Security Advisor because you are in cahoots with the Russians to subvert  US Government policy is not a disgrace anymore?   


(Psssst, your bias is sticking out.)

Nope,  he pleaded guilty.  No bias required.

He did not plead guilty to being "in cahoots with the Russians to subvert US Government policy".

Be careful,  your bias is showing now.   Stick with the verifiable facts,   He got sacked for lying to the FBI about  his meeting with Kisylak,  they knew he was lying because Kisylak's communications back to the Kremlin were being tapped by the intelligence services,  so they knew exactly what Flynn was up to.

Although Trump said he got sacked for lying to Pence,  then later admitted he knew all along Flynn was lying to the FBI,  and had asked  Comey to "Let it go"  when Comey didn't he sacked him.

I would have thought you already knew all this?
« Last Edit: March 23, 2018, 08:44:01 PM by Rayzor »
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Re: Psychographics and Social Media Psyops SCL and Cambridge Analytica
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2018, 09:11:11 PM »

So keep reading,  and BTW  "disgraced former National Security Adviser"  is exactly what Michael Flynn is.



No, 'disgraced' is an opinion of a situation.

Getting sacked from the job of National Security Advisor because you are in cahoots with the Russians to subvert  US Government policy is not a disgrace anymore?   


(Psssst, your bias is sticking out.)

Nope,  he pleaded guilty.  No bias required.

He did not plead guilty to being "in cahoots with the Russians to subvert US Government policy".

Be careful,  your bias is showing now.   Stick with the verifiable facts,   He got sacked for lying to the FBI about  his meeting with Kisylak,  they knew he was lying because Kisylak's communications back to the Kremlin were being tapped by the intelligence services,  so they knew exactly what Flynn was up to.

Although Trump said he got sacked for lying to Pence,  then later admitted he knew all along Flynn was lying to the FBI,  and had asked  Comey to "Let it go"  when Comey didn't he sacked him.

I would have thought you already knew all this?


Michael Flynn plead guilty to one count of lying to the FBI.

Michael Flynn did not plead guilty to being "in cahoots with the Russians to subvert US Government policy".


Pro Tip: Interrogators never ask a question to which they don't already know the answer.   ::)




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Re: Psychographics and Social Media Psyops SCL and Cambridge Analytica
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2018, 09:29:29 PM »
Michael Flynn plead guilty to one count of lying to the FBI.

Michael Flynn did not plead guilty to being "in cahoots with the Russians to subvert US Government policy".

Pro Tip: Interrogators never ask a question to which they don't already know the answer.   ::)

You are confusing two separate issues,  the reason he was fired,  and what he was charged with after a plea deal.  The facts are that he met with Kisylak to talk about getting the Obama sanctions dropped.

He was fired because he lied to Pence.   ( At least that was the official version put out by the WH)

He was charged with lying to the FBI.   That didn't get him sacked.  But lying to Pence did?   Really?

As for what he pled guilty to,  that will become part of the official record at some stage.

Disgraced is exactly the right word to describe Flynn's sacking.
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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2018, 10:29:01 PM »
I really hate reading posts that dissect someone else's cluster post line by line.
So, I apologize to readers in advance . . .



Michael Flynn plead guilty to one count of lying to the FBI.
Michael Flynn did not plead guilty to being "in cahoots with the Russians to subvert US Government policy".

You are confusing two separate issues,  the reason he was fired,  and what he was charged with after a plea deal.

You are conflating two separate actions.

A plea deal is an agreement to plead guilty to an offense. No further charges can be brought.
Getting fired means the boss is done with you.


He was fired because he lied to Pence.

Don't piss off the boss.


He was charged with lying to the FBI.

That is what the plea deal settled on.


He was fired because he lied to Pence.
He was charged with lying to the FBI.

So close . . .

He got fired because he lied to the boss.
He agreed to a perjury conviction.


As for what he pled guilty to,  that will become part of the official record at some stage.

Perjury.


Disgraced is exactly the right word to describe Flynn's sacking.

You're probably right.   ;D

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Re: Psychographics and Social Media Psyops SCL and Cambridge Analytica
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2018, 10:36:33 PM »
We agree that Flynn was charged with one count of lying to the FBI, as part of his plea deal.

What was it do you think that Flynn lied about?

Here's the indictment filing if you need help.   https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download
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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2018, 11:00:42 PM »

What was it do you think that Flynn lied about?



He withheld the fact that he was reassuring foreign governments that President Elect Trump was going to fix President Obama's foreign policy in a month.

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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2018, 11:40:08 PM »

What was it do you think that Flynn lied about?



He withheld the fact that he was reassuring foreign governments that President Elect Trump was going to fix President Obama's foreign policy in a month.

What he did was conspire with a foreign government to undermine US Government policy. 

As I put it earlier...

He was in fact  "in cahoots with the Russians to subvert US Government policy".

What is not known is what else the FBI had on Flynn that they learned because of the Kisylak intercepts,  and who, in the Transition Team meeting at Mar-A-Lago,  thought it was ok for Flynn to go ahead.

It's obvious Flynn didn't act without authorization.

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« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2018, 11:54:44 PM »

What he did was conspire with a foreign government to undermine US Government policy. 

As I put it earlier...

He was in fact  "in cahoots with the Russians to subvert US Government policy".



You should publish your evidence.

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« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2018, 12:16:02 AM »
You should publish your evidence.

You didn't read the indictment?     Do I need to point out that he already pled guilty to lying about exactly that.  He wasn't charged,  presumably he got that as part of the plea deal.

I don't know why you are focused on this issue,  it's not controversial,  it's accepted and well documented. 




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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2018, 04:55:27 AM »
Back on topic,   this is an overly long and detailed documentation of the background to SCL and it's origins in UK Military psyops.   Some interesting background on the Mercers and their strange ideas about nuclear war.


https://medium.com/textifire/a-special-relationship-the-birth-of-cambridge-analytica-97633129cb06

Read it if you've got the time,  I'm just linking it here for reference.

This is an extract, that seems disturbing on any number of levels.
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Mercer’s attacks on DeFazio are easily attributable to HFT tax proposals, but his support of political then-novice Art Robinson is also notable. Robinson is a crackpot pseudoscientist whose mentor was Nobel Prize Winner Linus Pauling, before they acrimoniously parted ways in a divorce which ultimately ended in Robinson’s $25.5m lawsuit against the Pauling Institute (which he settled for $575k).
Robinson then became a supporter of homeopathic disease cures via exposure to raw radioactive elements, as well as a well-known climate change denier, an obsessive hoarder of 14,000+ human urine samples, and a forest-dwelling widower who homeschooled his 6 children using his own Bible-based, available-for-sale “Robinson Curriculum” (all of which basically makes him the Anti-Captain Fantastic). He lost to DeFazio in 2010 and lost again & again & again in 3 subsequent elections, but managed to become the chairman of the Oregon Republican Party from 2013–15, and has recently been considered for the role of Trump’s chief Science Adviser.

Robert Mercer and his politically powerful daughter Rebekah are said to have become fans of Robinson’s after reading his newsletter “Access to Energy”, which argues such things as Chernobyl radiation and carbon pollution are ultimately beneficial to planetary life. However, Mercer has privately “downplay[ed] the dangers posed by nuclear war” when excitedly expressing his belief that Hiroshima & Nagasaki radiation made the greater population of Japan healthier, and Robinson has published a book & multi-DVD set on Nuclear War Survival Skills, so they have that hobby in common.
After bringing someone like Robinson close to victory in 2010, the Mercers’ fresh taste for political power brought them the privileges and lifestyles of the rich & famous. They soon found themselves at a 2011 conference of the Club For Growth, a pro-business activist group for the conservative elite, which spent $6m of its own in support of 2010 GOP/Tea Party contenders. The Club is perhaps best known for being sued and fined by the FEC in 2005 for violating fair election laws. Its Executive Director David Keating then formed SpeechNow, a group which sued the FEC and did even more damage to campaign finance regulations via their Ninth Circuit Court victory in the immediate wake of Citizens United v FEC, but right now we’re focused on the Club as the place where Mercer first met Andrew Breitbart.
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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2018, 07:42:00 AM »
Everyone should read this https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Bernays_Propaganda_in_english_.pdf I am amazed at how it seems to still be so accurate.
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« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2018, 04:48:45 PM »
Everyone should read this https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Bernays_Propaganda_in_english_.pdf I am amazed at how it seems to still be so accurate.

LOL,  People haven't changed much,  still the same psychological buttons and emotional strings.   We have just given our souls to internet moguls and their puppet masters who have more powerful tools to manipulate us.  I don't mind them pushing product that I might be interested in,  but taking over the government is a step too far.

It's ironic that the people most susceptible to being manipulated are those that claim not to be.   



 
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« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2018, 05:43:17 PM »
It irritates me to know that I can be (and am) manipulated by propaganda. I know that some of the more obvious marketing doesn't work on me now that I am older, but there's other kinds that do. Knowing about it doesn't seem to be helpful.
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« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2018, 05:50:51 PM »
It irritates me to know that I can be (and am) manipulated by propaganda. I know that some of the more obvious marketing doesn't work on me now that I am older, but there's other kinds that do. Knowing about it doesn't seem to be helpful.

The best manipulator i've ever known is my late mother,  she could drive any of us adult kids crazy with just a sentence or two,  she knew all the emotional buttons and how to press them.   Still miss her humor.

I hope that the people trying to control us never get their hands on those buttons.

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« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2018, 06:21:22 PM »
It irritates me to know that I can be (and am) manipulated by propaganda. I know that some of the more obvious marketing doesn't work on me now that I am older, but there's other kinds that do. Knowing about it doesn't seem to be helpful.

Ha ha, me too. I notice I now watch commercials about MediCare supplement plans.   ::)

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« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2018, 06:45:11 PM »
I want one of those safe step walk in tubs!
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« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2018, 06:54:17 PM »
I want one of those safe step walk in tubs!

Who has that much hot water?

If I plugged the tub the shower would be cold before the water was 8" deep.

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« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2018, 10:06:07 PM »
I wanna I HydraLight. It's probably even better than a perpetual energy generator!
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« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2018, 10:09:56 PM »
I wanna I HydraLight. It's probably even better than a perpetual energy generator!

Can't beat a perpetual hand warmer . . .



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« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2018, 10:15:13 PM »
I wanna I HydraLight. It's probably even better than a perpetual energy generator!

Can't beat a perpetual hand warmer . . .



Not sure why you would need ten?
For the whole family.
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« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2018, 10:29:31 PM »
I wanna I HydraLight. It's probably even better than a perpetual energy generator!

Can't beat a perpetual hand warmer . . .



Not sure why you would need ten?
For the whole family.


That's what a will is for.