Is 50 cent a white supremacist?

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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2018, 06:28:45 PM »
You wont accept IQ scores or SAT results. I am wondering what measurement of intelligence you would find acceptable?

Unless you want to claim that intelligence isn't measurable. You would actually be able to keep your position without debating any facts that way.

I don't know. You are the one claiming to have "just facts". The onus is on you.



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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2018, 06:30:12 PM »
The facts are the statistics, statistics are factual. You are the one doing mental gymnastics.

The SAT scores are factual. (I assume. I haven't actually checked.) The conclusions that you draw from those scores may or may not be factual. You claim to have "just facts", but your conclusions are weakly supported.

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So AGAIN I ask, what is your goal here?

So AGAIN I tell you, the truth.

So AGAIN I ask, why focus so much on this particular so-called "truth"?

Edit in response to above graphic:
...due to genetics and not some other confounding factor like malnutrition, education, or culturally biased IQ tests.
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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2018, 06:34:55 PM »
The facts are the statistics, statistics are factual. You are the one doing mental gymnastics.

The SAT scores are factual.

Indeed they are, so is the over-representation of south east Asians in IQ and the over-representaion of Africans in sprinting.

50 cent is right, whites are genetically disadvantaged compared to Africans in high impact sports. Knowing this fact doesn't make me a black or white supremacist. It just means I accept the truth.



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So AGAIN I ask, why focus so much on this particular so-called "truth"?

So AGAIN I tell you there are people who value the truth above anything else.
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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2018, 06:40:00 PM »
...due to genetics and not some other confounding factor like malnutrition, education, or culturally biased IQ tests.

Come on now totes.

what measurement of intelligence you would find acceptable?

I don't know.

You've made an impossible standard of proof. As I said, it's the only way to keep your current position.
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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2018, 06:41:21 PM »
Again to totes and other posters on this thread.... y'all are either purposely or accidentally missing the point to this thread.

Dispute showed opinions of a black man that caused no issue with anyone that if a white man said would instantly label him as a white supremacist and immediately would have been burned at the stake. He was showing hypocrisy, it wasn't to get into a debate over it's factual accuracy (though there are clear facts to be discussed)...


Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2018, 06:41:57 PM »
If you are just going to reply to edited versions of my quotes in order to deliberately dodge the main point of my arguments, I'm not going to bother. I'm not sure why I tried in the first place.

You wondered why everyone "poisons the well" in your threads. This is why. Having a serious discussion with you is futile.

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Again to totes and other posters on this thread.... y'all are either purposely or accidentally missing the point to this thread.

Dispute showed opinions of a black man that caused no issue with anyone that if a white man said would instantly label him as a white supremacist and immediately would have been burned at the stake. He was showing hypocrisy, it wasn't to get into a debate over it's factual accuracy (though there are clear facts to be discussed)...

I was responding to a specific claim d1 made. The reason why I felt d1's claim was worth questioning, and not 50 cent is twofold:

1. I generally don't give a shit what random celebrities say.
2. 50 cent's comment seems to be fairly lighthearted, and doesn't have much implication policy-wise. Nobody makes arguments for segregation/separation based on some race having generally longer hamstrings than others, or whatever the explanation is. On the other hand, racial intelligence is the historical go-to for racists who seek out rational justification.
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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2018, 06:43:18 PM »
If you are just going to reply to edited versions of my quotes in order to deliberately dodge the main point of my arguments, I'm not going to bother. I'm not sure why I tried in the first place.

You wondered why everyone "poisons the well" in your threads. This is why. Having a serious discussion with you is futile.

What

measurement

of

intelligence

will

you

accept?

If you stand by your claim that race, intelligence and 100 metre sprint times cannot be measured then we are certainly done.
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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2018, 07:08:36 PM »
https://www.rankings.com/sports-track-sprinters/

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Sprinters – Men’s 100 Metres (World Record: 9.58) by Usain Bolt at the ’09 World Championships)

1. Usain Bolt (Jamaica) – Fastest Time: 9.58 seconds
The 100m Olympic record (9.69) was set by Bolt at the 2008 Summer Games in Beijing.


2. Tyson Gay (United States) – Fastest Time: 9.69 seconds
During the 2008 U.S. Olympic Trials, Gay also ran a wind-aided 9.68 (once the fastest 100 m under any condition).


3. Asafa Powell (Jamaica) – Fastest Time: 9.72 seconds
Asafa Powell ran his fastest time, once the world record, during heats at the 2007 IAAF Rieti Grand Prix.


4. Maurice Greene (United States) – Fastest Time: 9.79 seconds
By the widest margin since electronic timing, Greene ran this since passed world record time in 1999.


5. Donovan Bailey (Canada) – Fastest Time: 9.84 seconds
Bailey returned Canada to glory with his 9.84 record-breaking run at the 1996 Atlanta Olympic Games.


6. Bruny Surin (Canada) – Fastest Time: 9.84 seconds
Surin’s second place finish of 9.84 at the 1999 World Championships was the fastest silver medal time ever.


7. Leroy Burrell (United States) – Fastest Time: 9.85 seconds
Burrell had twice set the world record in the 100 metres with a 9.90 in 1991 and a 9.85 in 1994.


8. Justin Gatlin (United States) – Fastest Time: 9.85 seconds
Gatlin’s fastest time was set at the 2004 Olympics with a gold metal winning 9.85 second run.


9. Olusoji Fasuba (Nigeria) – Fastest Time: 9.85 seconds
Fasuba holds the African 100 metre sprinting mark with a 9.85 at the Doha Grand Prix in 2006.


10. Carl Lewis (United States) – Fastest Time: 9.86 seconds
Track and Field star Carl Lewis has won nine Olympic gold medals and eight World Championship gold medals.

Come on guys let's be real here.
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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2018, 07:13:12 PM »

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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2018, 07:13:58 PM »
I don't get it. 3/10 shitpost.
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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2018, 07:17:30 PM »
I don't get it. 3/10 shitpost.

I thought you worked with elevators.

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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2018, 07:26:40 PM »
http://www.usefulchess.com/others/chess_top100.html

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1    Carlsen, Magnus    NOR    2843


2    Mamedyarov, Shakhriyar    AZE    2809


3    Kramnik, Vladimir    RUS    2800


4    So, Wesley    USA    2799


5    Aronian, Levon    ARM    2794


6    Vachier-Lagrave, Maxime    FRA    2789


7    Nakamura, Hikaru    USA    2787


8    Caruana, Fabiano    USA    2784


9    Giri, Anish    NED    2777


10    Anand, Viswanathan    IND    2776

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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2018, 07:29:57 PM »
If you are just going to reply to edited versions of my quotes in order to deliberately dodge the main point of my arguments, I'm not going to bother. I'm not sure why I tried in the first place.

You wondered why everyone "poisons the well" in your threads. This is why. Having a serious discussion with you is futile.

What

measurement

of

intelligence

will

you

accept?

If you stand by your claim that race, intelligence and 100 metre sprint times cannot be measured then we are certainly done.

Sorry dude. I already tried to have a serious conversation with you. Every once in awhile I give it a shot. Every time it's like arguing with a particularly dense brick wall. Have fun spamming your racially antagonistic threads. Maybe you can stir up enough followers to establish your own independent, racially superior zion in the middle of the Australian desert. Good luck.

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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2018, 07:32:24 PM »
Here Totes

Speaking of brick walls.

https://www.rankings.com/sports-track-sprinters/

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Sprinters – Men’s 100 Metres (World Record: 9.58) by Usain Bolt at the ’09 World Championships)

1. Usain Bolt (Jamaica) – Fastest Time: 9.58 seconds
The 100m Olympic record (9.69) was set by Bolt at the 2008 Summer Games in Beijing.


2. Tyson Gay (United States) – Fastest Time: 9.69 seconds
During the 2008 U.S. Olympic Trials, Gay also ran a wind-aided 9.68 (once the fastest 100 m under any condition).


3. Asafa Powell (Jamaica) – Fastest Time: 9.72 seconds
Asafa Powell ran his fastest time, once the world record, during heats at the 2007 IAAF Rieti Grand Prix.


4. Maurice Greene (United States) – Fastest Time: 9.79 seconds
By the widest margin since electronic timing, Greene ran this since passed world record time in 1999.


5. Donovan Bailey (Canada) – Fastest Time: 9.84 seconds
Bailey returned Canada to glory with his 9.84 record-breaking run at the 1996 Atlanta Olympic Games.


6. Bruny Surin (Canada) – Fastest Time: 9.84 seconds
Surin’s second place finish of 9.84 at the 1999 World Championships was the fastest silver medal time ever.


7. Leroy Burrell (United States) – Fastest Time: 9.85 seconds
Burrell had twice set the world record in the 100 metres with a 9.90 in 1991 and a 9.85 in 1994.


8. Justin Gatlin (United States) – Fastest Time: 9.85 seconds
Gatlin’s fastest time was set at the 2004 Olympics with a gold metal winning 9.85 second run.


9. Olusoji Fasuba (Nigeria) – Fastest Time: 9.85 seconds
Fasuba holds the African 100 metre sprinting mark with a 9.85 at the Doha Grand Prix in 2006.


10. Carl Lewis (United States) – Fastest Time: 9.86 seconds
Track and Field star Carl Lewis has won nine Olympic gold medals and eight World Championship gold medals.

http://www.usefulchess.com/others/chess_top100.html

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1    Carlsen, Magnus    NOR    2843


2    Mamedyarov, Shakhriyar    AZE    2809


3    Kramnik, Vladimir    RUS    2800


4    So, Wesley    USA    2799


5    Aronian, Levon    ARM    2794


6    Vachier-Lagrave, Maxime    FRA    2789


7    Nakamura, Hikaru    USA    2787


8    Caruana, Fabiano    USA    2784


9    Giri, Anish    NED    2777


10    Anand, Viswanathan    IND    2776

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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2018, 07:38:07 PM »
Meanwhile in Bullwinkle and Totes' mind.

Lvl 10 mental gymnastics.
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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #45 on: March 10, 2018, 07:49:36 PM »
Using D1's warped pseudo-intellect, Mexicans are natural born bullfighters.

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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #46 on: March 10, 2018, 07:51:00 PM »
disputes's warped pseudo-intellect.

All I did was post pictures of the top 10 fastest sprinters and best chess players with citations.

Why does this make you so angry you must make a strawman to tear down? Why not check the images. Surely I must have faked them to push a "racist" agenda.

Oh, wait, no, nevermind.
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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #47 on: March 10, 2018, 08:02:30 PM »
Using D1's warped pseudo-intellect, Mexicans are natural born bullfighters.

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Straw man

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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #48 on: March 10, 2018, 08:09:38 PM »

All I did was post pictures of the top 10 fastest sprinters and best chess players with citations.



I was not insinuating that you understand what you are doing.

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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #49 on: March 10, 2018, 08:19:07 PM »
Using D1's warped pseudo-intellect, Mexicans are natural born bullfighters.

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Straw man

A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".


All I did was post pictures of the top 10 fastest sprinters and best chess players with citations.

I was not insinuating that you understand what you are doing.

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Ad hominem

(Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.[2]

Tell me, Bullwinkle. What tier arguments are you using?


Totes was responding to tone you are name calling.
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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2018, 08:24:07 PM »

Tell me, Bullwinkle. What tier arguments are you using?



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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #51 on: March 10, 2018, 08:27:12 PM »
Using D1's warped pseudo-intellect, Mexicans are natural born bullfighters.

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Straw man

A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".


All I did was post pictures of the top 10 fastest sprinters and best chess players with citations.

I was not insinuating that you understand what you are doing.

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Ad hominem

(Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.[2]

Tell me, Bullwinkle. What tier arguments are you using?


Totes was responding to tone you are name calling.


Tell me, Bullwinkle. What tier arguments are you using?

I am the laser pointer, you are the cat.

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Name calling

Sounds something like "you're an idiot."

Please don't stop now I am wondering how many logical fallacies you will use before you realise your position is untenable.
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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #52 on: March 10, 2018, 08:31:38 PM »
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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #53 on: March 10, 2018, 08:46:03 PM »
Lol. Dispute sure does bring out some interesting things here huh

Everything but a point.

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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #54 on: March 10, 2018, 08:50:34 PM »
Lol. Dispute sure does bring out some interesting things here huh

Everything but a point.

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Ad hominem

(Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.[2]

Try this for a point Bullwinkle.

Africans are genetically superior sprinters compared to Whites and Asians.
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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #55 on: March 10, 2018, 09:41:13 PM »

Try this for a point Bullwinkle.
Africans are genetically superior sprinters compared to Whites and Asians.



What's your point?

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« Reply #56 on: March 10, 2018, 09:44:34 PM »
Lol. Dispute sure does bring out some interesting things here huh

Everything but a point.

I favor going straight to the name calling,  short circuits all the tedious intermediate steps,  where you know in advance what the crazies are going to say.

I think anons are genetically gullible.   D1 is proof.

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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #57 on: March 10, 2018, 09:49:19 PM »

Try this for a point Bullwinkle.
Africans are genetically superior sprinters compared to Whites and Asians.

(0.02c per line)
(0.02c per line)
What's your point?

That actually was my point in support of the premise that different racial groups have different strengths and weaknesses.

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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #58 on: March 10, 2018, 09:51:02 PM »
I favor going straight to the name calling.

You say that like anyone is surprised.
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Re: Is 50 cent a white supremacist?
« Reply #59 on: March 10, 2018, 09:56:48 PM »

Try this for a point Bullwinkle.
Africans are genetically superior sprinters compared to Whites and Asians.

(0.02c per line)
(0.02c per line)
What's your point?

That actually was my point in support of the premise that different racial groups have different strengths and weaknesses.




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