"Sensorial" evidence

I have noticed in posts on this forum that FE believers claim that the only acceptable evidence is "sensorial evidence", i.e. what we can experience with our own senses. Hence the earth must be flat because we cannot see it as being curved. The sun must go around the earth, because that's what we see.

In light of this, I would like to know where FE believers stand on other matters that we cannot directly experience. Here are just a couple of examples:

• Radio waves
  X-rays
  Electric current

I could add plenty more to this list. None of these can be experienced directly. With all of them we need specialised equipment (radio receiver, TV set, x-ray film, multi-meter, etc). Without that equipment, we would not in any way be aware of their existence.

Hence my question: do true FEers believe these things are real? Do electromagnetic waves really exist if we cannot "feel" them?

If you do believe that using equipment is acceptable in these instances, why do  when deducing the shape and movement of the earth? Why do you not allow photos and other measurements taken by spacecraft? What equipment is allowable, and what is not? Where do you draw the line?

Conversely, if you don't believe radio waves or electric currents exist, why are you on this forum, using a computer/mobile phone in the first place? Their operation obviously depends on unproven ideas.

I have noticed in posts on this forum that FE believers claim that the only acceptable evidence is "sensorial evidence", i.e. what we can experience with our own senses. Hence the earth must be flat because we cannot see it as being curved. The sun must go around the earth, because that's what we see.

In light of this, I would like to know where FE believers stand on other matters that we cannot directly experience. Here are just a couple of examples:

• Radio waves
  X-rays
  Electric current

I could add plenty more to this list. None of these can be experienced directly. With all of them we need specialised equipment (radio receiver, TV set, x-ray film, multi-meter, etc). Without that equipment, we would not in any way be aware of their existence.

Hence my question: do true FEers believe these things are real? Do electromagnetic waves really exist if we cannot "feel" them?

If you do believe that using equipment is acceptable in these instances, why do  when deducing the shape and movement of the earth? Why do you not allow photos and other measurements taken by spacecraft? What equipment is allowable, and what is not? Where do you draw the line?

Conversely, if you don't believe radio waves or electric currents exist, why are you on this forum, using a computer/mobile phone in the first place? Their operation obviously depends on unproven ideas.

FE''s seem to  reject all science and a study of radio waves, electric current or x-rays are related to science.
Ask any electrical engineer or technician if they didn't begin their studies with courses in branches of science.
I'm not sure about it, but I think they reject all text books on anything related to radio waves, electric currents or x-rays.
FES seems to be only a DIY. 😆

Ask any electrical engineer or techniciian

Yes, you called?

Quote from: Googleotomy on February 21, 2018, 05:07:03 PM

Ask any electrical engineer or techniciian

Yes, you called?

Hey jroa !
Good day to you !

 I think it's a well known fact that you are  really a "round earther" pretending to be a "flst earther." 😆

Quote from: jroa on February 21, 2018, 05:13:22 PM

Quote from: Googleotomy on February 21, 2018, 05:07:03 PM

Ask any electrical engineer or techniciian

Yes, you called?

Hey jroa !
Good day to you !

 I think it's a well known fact that you are  really a "round earther" pretending to be a "flst earther." 😆

I think it is well known that you are delusional about many things, but let us keep this on topic.

I think that the electromagnetic waves exist.  What I am not convinced of is the interpretation of the data of the experiments. 

Quote from: Googleotomy on February 21, 2018, 05:19:48 PM

Quote from: jroa on February 21, 2018, 05:13:22 PM

Quote from: Googleotomy on February 21, 2018, 05:07:03 PM

Ask any electrical engineer or techniciian

Yes, you called?

Hey jroa !
Good day to you !

 I think it's a well known fact that you are  really a "round earther" pretending to be a "flst earther." 😆

I think it is well known that you are delusional about many things, but let us keep this on topic.

I think that the electromagnetic waves exist.  What I am not convinced of is the interpretation of the data of the experiments.

One has to be a bit delusional to appreciate this website.  Exiting for now unti re-entry.

I know FE is  delusion. I just want to see how far they can carry their delusion.

To put it bluntly, can they deny the existence of radio waves and electric currents, and yet happily use PCs, mobile phones and GPS?

To put it bluntly, can they deny the existence of radio waves and electric currents, and yet happily use PCs, mobile phones and GPS?

Flat earthers in general are moslty cherry picking a few things from reality that they chose to believe in while denying all of the rest ...

Nothing abnormal here ...

Radio waves
X-rays
Electric current

You mean the magic spells for long distance talking and partial invisibility?  All taken care of by the incantations.

Electric current? Stick a fork in a wall socket and tell me you don't feel that sensory experience.

I can see electromagnetic radiation with my own eyes.

I can see electromagnetic radiation with my own eyes.

That's why my question specifically said radio waves and X-rays. Unless you have X-ray vision, like superman

Quote from: Bullwinkle on February 21, 2018, 11:37:07 PM

I can see electromagnetic radiation with my own eyes.

That's why my question specifically said radio waves and X-rays. Unless you have X-ray vision, like superman

I work pretty closely with x-ray technicians and see them work on a daily basis. It could be that some other type of mechanism creates those images, but whatever it is, referring to them a "x-rays" is fine with me.
Same with radio waves.

The Earth's shape is not in the category, because I've never been able to see the entirety of Earth to verify its shape. It would appear to be flat based on all the evidence I've gathered over the course of my life.

Can you see the difference here? This is a clear false equivalence.

Quote from: Bullwinkle on February 21, 2018, 11:37:07 PM

I can see electromagnetic radiation with my own eyes.

That's why my question specifically said radio waves and X-rays. Unless you have X-ray vision, like superman

This is your specific question . . . . .

Hence my question: do true FEers believe these things are real? Do electromagnetic waves really exist if we cannot "feel" them?

Do electromagnetic waves really exist if we cannot "feel" them?

When I took my slice of pizza out of the fridge and put it in the microwave, I burned the roof of my mouth. I can "feel" radio waves.

You would be feeling the Radio waves if you bypasses the safety switches on your microwave and put your hand inside.  Or, more specifically, you would be feeling the effects of these microwaves as they interacted with the water molecules in your hand.