SpaceX: The Latest

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I think you are the only one that saw stars. Do you have a time stamp?

Little past the three hour mark. Pay special attention to how the Earth dwindles into the distance in the reflection rather than being cut off as the car rotated, when no possible movement could justify that, especially when the Earth pops up again later.

Haven't seen the stars yet on the video but what friction are you talking about and why would the frame be damaged?

Try getting out of the atmosphere sometime.

Ok.  What friction should the car have been subject to and why should the frame be bent?

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Quote from: sokarul on February 07, 2018, 10:03:46 AM

I think you are the only one that saw stars. Do you have a time stamp?

Little past the three hour mark. Pay special attention to how the Earth dwindles into the distance in the reflection rather than being cut off as the car rotated, when no possible movement could justify that, especially when the Earth pops up again later.

Haven't seen the stars yet on the video but what friction are you talking about and why would the frame be damaged?

Try getting out of the atmosphere sometime.

Ok.  What friction should the car have been subject to and why should the frame be bent?

Again, still try getting out of the atmosphere, especially with the car with a clear view of outside.

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Quote from: sokarul on February 07, 2018, 10:03:46 AM

I think you are the only one that saw stars. Do you have a time stamp?

Little past the three hour mark. Pay special attention to how the Earth dwindles into the distance in the reflection rather than being cut off as the car rotated, when no possible movement could justify that, especially when the Earth pops up again later.

Haven't seen the stars yet on the video but what friction are you talking about and why would the frame be damaged?

Try getting out of the atmosphere sometime.

Ok.  What friction should the car have been subject to and why should the frame be bent?

Again, still try getting out of the atmosphere, especially with the car with a clear view of outside.

Can you not directly answer a question directly asked?

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Quote from: sokarul on February 07, 2018, 10:03:46 AM

I think you are the only one that saw stars. Do you have a time stamp?

Little past the three hour mark. Pay special attention to how the Earth dwindles into the distance in the reflection rather than being cut off as the car rotated, when no possible movement could justify that, especially when the Earth pops up again later.

Haven't seen the stars yet on the video but what friction are you talking about and why would the frame be damaged?

Try getting out of the atmosphere sometime.

Ok.  What friction should the car have been subject to and why should the frame be bent?

Again, still try getting out of the atmosphere, especially with the car with a clear view of outside.

Can you not directly answer a question directly asked?

That is the answer.

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Quote from: sokarul on February 07, 2018, 10:03:46 AM

I think you are the only one that saw stars. Do you have a time stamp?

Little past the three hour mark. Pay special attention to how the Earth dwindles into the distance in the reflection rather than being cut off as the car rotated, when no possible movement could justify that, especially when the Earth pops up again later.

Haven't seen the stars yet on the video but what friction are you talking about and why would the frame be damaged?

Try getting out of the atmosphere sometime.

Ok.  What friction should the car have been subject to and why should the frame be bent?

Again, still try getting out of the atmosphere, especially with the car with a clear view of outside.

Can you not directly answer a question directly asked?

That is the answer.

No it isn't.  What friction was the car exposed to?

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Quote from: sokarul on February 07, 2018, 10:03:46 AM

I think you are the only one that saw stars. Do you have a time stamp?

Little past the three hour mark. Pay special attention to how the Earth dwindles into the distance in the reflection rather than being cut off as the car rotated, when no possible movement could justify that, especially when the Earth pops up again later.

Haven't seen the stars yet on the video but what friction are you talking about and why would the frame be damaged?

Try getting out of the atmosphere sometime.

Ok.  What friction should the car have been subject to and why should the frame be bent?

Again, still try getting out of the atmosphere, especially with the car with a clear view of outside.

Can you not directly answer a question directly asked?

That is the answer.

No it isn't.  What friction was the car exposed to?

Free view of the outside.
Enough force to get itno space.
Guess.

It's in pristine condition. How much force do you think it was under?

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I think you are the only one that saw stars. Do you have a time stamp?

Little past the three hour mark. Pay special attention to how the Earth dwindles into the distance in the reflection rather than being cut off as the car rotated, when no possible movement could justify that, especially when the Earth pops up again later.

Haven't seen the stars yet on the video but what friction are you talking about and why would the frame be damaged?

Try getting out of the atmosphere sometime.

Ok.  What friction should the car have been subject to and why should the frame be bent?

Again, still try getting out of the atmosphere, especially with the car with a clear view of outside.

Seriously, it's a simple question.  I'm just asking for clarification on a claim you seem to be making.  Specifically what friction on the car are you talking about?

Umm...  Did you miss the part where the shroud protecting the car wasn't discarded until the rocket was above the atmosphere?  It happened just after the second stage burn started.

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Seriously, it's a simple question.  I'm just asking for clarification on a claim you seem to be making.  Specifically what friction on the car are you talking about?

Literally everything it should be in contact with. Do you not know the definition of friction? I am not being vague here.

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Umm...  Did you miss the part where the shroud protecting the car wasn't discarded until the rocket was above the atmosphere?  It happened just after the second stage burn started.

And if you want to ignore all the issues with an airtight covering that can be easily discarded without brushing past the car, go ahead. And have you ever heard of g-forces? It's hardly strapped to a chair.

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Umm...  Did you miss the part where the shroud protecting the car wasn't discarded until the rocket was above the atmosphere?  It happened just after the second stage burn started.

And if you want to ignore all the issues with an airtight covering that can be easily discarded without brushing past the car, go ahead. And have you ever heard of g-forces? It's hardly strapped to a chair.

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Seriously, it's a simple question.  I'm just asking for clarification on a claim you seem to be making.  Specifically what friction on the car are you talking about?

Literally everything it should be in contact with. Do you not know the definition of friction? I am not being vague here.

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Umm...  Did you miss the part where the shroud protecting the car wasn't discarded until the rocket was above the atmosphere?  It happened just after the second stage burn started.

And if you want to ignore all the issues with an airtight covering that can be easily discarded without brushing past the car, go ahead. And have you ever heard of g-forces? It's hardly strapped to a chair.

I think the only thing it was in contact with was the interior of the ship.  So where would the friction come from?

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Umm...  Did you miss the part where the shroud protecting the car wasn't discarded until the rocket was above the atmosphere?  It happened just after the second stage burn started.

And if you want to ignore all the issues with an airtight covering that can be easily discarded without brushing past the car, go ahead. And have you ever heard of g-forces? It's hardly strapped to a chair.

Are you serious? 

Seriously, are you serious? 

After 47 successful launches of a Falcon 9, you think that SpaceX doesn't know how to properly secure a payload or separate a fairing?

JRowe seems to act in line with many FE'ers. He does not understand it, hence it is not possible. And damn the torpedoes.

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Seriously, it's a simple question.  I'm just asking for clarification on a claim you seem to be making.  Specifically what friction on the car are you talking about?

Literally everything it should be in contact with. Do you not know the definition of friction? I am not being vague here.

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Umm...  Did you miss the part where the shroud protecting the car wasn't discarded until the rocket was above the atmosphere?  It happened just after the second stage burn started.

And if you want to ignore all the issues with an airtight covering that can be easily discarded without brushing past the car, go ahead. And have you ever heard of g-forces? It's hardly strapped to a chair.

I think the only thing it was in contact with was the interior of the ship.  So where would the friction come from?

Are you being serious?

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Seriously, it's a simple question.  I'm just asking for clarification on a claim you seem to be making.  Specifically what friction on the car are you talking about?

Literally everything it should be in contact with. Do you not know the definition of friction? I am not being vague here.

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Umm...  Did you miss the part where the shroud protecting the car wasn't discarded until the rocket was above the atmosphere?  It happened just after the second stage burn started.

And if you want to ignore all the issues with an airtight covering that can be easily discarded without brushing past the car, go ahead. And have you ever heard of g-forces? It's hardly strapped to a chair.

I think the only thing it was in contact with was the interior of the ship.  So where would the friction come from?

Are you being serious?

Completely serious, which is why I asked the question.  What is supposed to be causing the friction?

47 successful launches, sure.
It's the old boil a frog trick. If they build up to it, you don't notice when you're being boiled alive.
This is an absurdity. Look at it in its own merits, not how well it lies up to their past propaganda.

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Seriously, it's a simple question.  I'm just asking for clarification on a claim you seem to be making.  Specifically what friction on the car are you talking about?

Literally everything it should be in contact with. Do you not know the definition of friction? I am not being vague here.

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Umm...  Did you miss the part where the shroud protecting the car wasn't discarded until the rocket was above the atmosphere?  It happened just after the second stage burn started.

And if you want to ignore all the issues with an airtight covering that can be easily discarded without brushing past the car, go ahead. And have you ever heard of g-forces? It's hardly strapped to a chair.

I think the only thing it was in contact with was the interior of the ship.  So where would the friction come from?

Are you being serious?

Completely serious, which is why I asked the question.  What is supposed to be causing the friction?

I refer you to my answer to markjo.

Even if you want to ignore all the problems with protecting an object until it's out of the atmosphere, and then unveiling it with limited control and not damaging it, you have g forces acting on an object in contact with a surface.

Take a look while the livestream's up.
A simple car that survived being launched up through the atmosphere, survived the friction, and got out into outer space, floating so freely that a camera can not only see its undamaged frame, but the space around it. And look how quickly the stars whoosh by.

Just look.
You can tell the solo company's a bit less practised at this.

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Seriously, it's a simple question.  I'm just asking for clarification on a claim you seem to be making.  Specifically what friction on the car are you talking about?

Literally everything it should be in contact with. Do you not know the definition of friction? I am not being vague here.

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Umm...  Did you miss the part where the shroud protecting the car wasn't discarded until the rocket was above the atmosphere?  It happened just after the second stage burn started.

And if you want to ignore all the issues with an airtight covering that can be easily discarded without brushing past the car, go ahead. And have you ever heard of g-forces? It's hardly strapped to a chair.

Satellites get to thousands of degrees

R.I.P. FLAT EARTH AHAHAHAHAHAHA. THANKS SpaceX NO GO PRO, NO CGI... SCIENCE BITCH!!! IF YOU SAY  FAKE... PROVE IT FIRST

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R.I.P. FLAT EARTH AHAHAHAHAHAHA. THANKS SpaceX NO GO PRO, NO CGI... SCIENCE BITCH!!! IF YOU SAY  FAKE... PROVE IT FIRST

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I'm so sorry but obviously fake.

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Stars whooshing by.....wow.  As you know the only star within 4 light years of Earth is our star, the Sun.  The journey to the sun would itself take months and months.  The only way you would see stars in the distance whooshing by is of the craft was traveling near light speed.  I know it is difficult to understand because the distances involved are so vast. 

Notice how you still haven't actually answered the question?  Are you saying it's exposed to the atmosphere during the launch?

You guys that believe that the car is actually flying through space are pathetic and laughable. How hot do you think the black seatbelt fabric and the seats are? Satellites get to thousands of degrees but the metal doesn't melt or burn up because of magic. Do you think the seatbelts are magic? You fanboys are like pathetic children who have believed in Santa Claus for way too long. Lol.

JRowe I am astounded at your ability to avoid a simple question.
Is it the atmosphere that you think should be causing friction on it?  If not, what?

How feasible is it that they could create a perfectly airtight chamber that is both detachable but secure enough to survive being stuck on the side during being blasted out the atmosphere, that when it detaches gets far enough away to not even scratch the paintwork?
Don't give me that "But they say they did it!" nonsense. That's completely circular. tell me how you think that is even possible.

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Stars whooshing by.....wow.  As you know the only star within 4 light years of Earth is our star, the Sun.  The journey to the sun would itself take months and months.  The only way you would see stars in the distance whooshing by is of the craft was traveling near light speed.  I know it is difficult to understand because the distances involved are so vast. 

Three hour mark. You can actually see them. Watch the damn video.

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Notice how you still haven't actually answered the question?  Are you saying it's exposed to the atmosphere during the launch?

How feasible is it that they could create a perfectly airtight chamber that is both detachable but secure enough to survive being stuck on the side during being blasted out the atmosphere, that when it detaches gets far enough away to not even scratch the paintwork?
Don't give me that "But they say they did it!" nonsense. That's completely circular. tell me how you think that is even possible.



You can see the Earth's reflection vanishing despite occupying the same basic location on the car's side; impossible by rotation, only possible by moving far away, but it isn't moving that fast.

Also:

You can see a star to the right there. There is no explanation for that speed.