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Quote from: wise on January 20, 2020, 04:29:48 AM

Quote from: rvlvr on January 20, 2020, 04:19:40 AM

Quote from: wise on January 20, 2020, 04:02:28 AM

I told its being both racist and islamophobic. Both were exist.

His swearing to prophet is islamofobia, and swearing a bunch of people seemingly adressing Iranians was racist.

Well, I can curse Christ all I want, and the same goes for you. I don't consider any fictional or historical prophets and/or religious figures untouchable. But all in all what Curious wrote was pretty vile. And more than unnecessary.

Humiliating a historical personality is different than humiliating a group of people because they believe in someone. I hope you can understand the difference.

For the crusades, the pope is said to want it. however, westerners don't know why. the reason for this is in our sources. The poetry of the Islamic poet Ghazmeli mahmut that a poem humiliated  Jesus reached the pope is the real reason. however, this information is not shared in the public of west so that this rationale does not cause larger problems in the future. But we know it exactly.

I mean, such behaves even cause wars.

Like I tried to say, I do think people should have the freedom to bash figureheads no matter the position, but bunching every single member of a creed or religion or nation together as one entity is not cool.

There can be two types of behave. One of them is humiliating a historical figure that many people like and respect him. this is ugly behavior can provoke many people. But humiliating a people because they believe somebody is a direct agressive behave and is a direct crime. in this example, the criminal accused them of having perverted belief by directly targeting a group. this is a direct attack. The crime committed in our example is not an incitement, but a direct attack. this is both racist and islamophobic. it cannot just be pass it by defining as ugly behavior or a behaviour not cool. It is a direct agressive racist and islamofobic attack. The next stage of this is mass murder. such people need to be treated. but unfortunately they are poisoning those who may be affected by writing in such environments.

Winds have no effect to aircrafts. An aircraft about 150tons but you claim winds effect it. On the other hand, whatever the winds come from any direction, can't effect to a car has only 900kgs. It is logically meaningless.

Winds effect is just a globist lie. Its related with travel times. If one direction is longer than opposite route, globists start to talk about winds effect. But winds never effect on well known routes. For example, in Europe winds don't effect the aircraft.

Anyway.

You are one of the lawyer  of the evil; so that your claims has no value more than a rubbish in my mind. You may continue to lie, no problem.

You are an uneducated fool of a troll!
You claim 'winds have no effect on an aircraft'...
Well - how do they fly? In what medium?
AIR - and a wind is simply a movement of a mass of air.

Well, how stupid can you get...

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Winds have no effect to aircrafts. An aircraft about 150tons but you claim winds effect it. On the other hand, whatever the winds come from any direction, can't effect to a car has only 900kgs. It is logically meaningless.

Winds effect is just a globist lie. Its related with travel times. If one direction is longer than opposite route, globists start to talk about winds effect. But winds never effect on well known routes. For example, in Europe winds don't effect the aircraft.

Anyway.

You are one of the lawyer  of the evil; so that your claims has no value more than a rubbish in my mind. You may continue to lie, no problem.

You are an uneducated fool of a troll!
You claim 'winds have no effect on an aircraft'...
Well - how do they fly? In what medium?
AIR - and a wind is simply a movement of a mass of air.

Well, how stupid can you get...

No I am not. Your post has been reported as insult. You are doing it in the aim of save the son of Hitler. You are either alt of the racist attacker or alt of anybody else has  a problem with me. Winds are not the recent issue we are discussing. You are using another issue here proves I am not the troll but you are something I will not use this word for you. You may be mentioned in believer forum because of how globalist gang can be agressive.

Quote from: radioflat on January 20, 2020, 05:12:56 AM

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Winds have no effect to aircrafts. An aircraft about 150tons but you claim winds effect it. On the other hand, whatever the winds come from any direction, can't effect to a car has only 900kgs. It is logically meaningless.

Winds effect is just a globist lie. Its related with travel times. If one direction is longer than opposite route, globists start to talk about winds effect. But winds never effect on well known routes. For example, in Europe winds don't effect the aircraft.

Anyway.

You are one of the lawyer  of the evil; so that your claims has no value more than a rubbish in my mind. You may continue to lie, no problem.

You are an uneducated fool of a troll!
You claim 'winds have no effect on an aircraft'...
Well - how do they fly? In what medium?
AIR - and a wind is simply a movement of a mass of air.

Well, how stupid can you get...

No I am not. Your post has been reported as insult. You are doing it in the aim of save the son of Hitler. You are either alt of the racist attacker or anybpdy else has  a problem with me. Winds are not the recent issue we are discussing. You are using another issue here proves I am not the troll but I will not use this word for you.

Calling someone a son of Hitler is just as much an insult as calling someone stupid.

Quote from: Timeisup on January 20, 2020, 12:38:10 AM

Quote from: Shifter on January 20, 2020, 12:33:14 AM

Quote from: Curiouser and Curiouser on January 17, 2020, 11:54:09 AM

I'm not even Muslim and I find that post to be f'ing disgusting and offensive to the highest degree. Every negative connotative word in existence can be applied to the likes of you. 

I think the new one he had ripped has made him rather tetchy. What ever you do don’t mention the ‘I’ word.

There is a racist islamophobic speech and do you expect "I" or "we" ignore it? Which is the crime, doing a crime or critising it? Becomes trendy or not, this should be stopped.

I split the posts out and moved them to quarantine.  I will deal with the punishment now.

Thanks for editing out the shit post, Shifter.

Seems fair. Thanks for your sensitivity.

No, but  'Curiouser and Curiouser's statement was just straight up racist.  It wasn't attacking Islam, but calling a group of people "camel fuckers" and "mentally retarted pig-whores".  Can't get much more racist than that.

Sure it can, by calling a race of people that.

But I think it was more just using wise's tactics against him, with how he has said such vile things about people here in the past, just because they refuted him.

His swearing to prophet is islamofobia

Which is why there is nothing wrong with Islamophobia in general.
The criminal you call a prophet deserves no respect.

Just because you love him and worship him doesn't mean everyone else has to.

Who supports him, he is the son of Hitler.

Why?
I more often see Muslims praising Hitler than attacking him.
Probably something to do with so many of them hating Jews so much.

Islam is abhorrent, just like Nazism.
So why assume that people who are Islamophobic are Nazis?
Doesn't it make more sense that they are decent people that abhor such abhorrent beliefs?

Also, why complain about such "attacks" against a group, when you attack so many, insulting all REers as a group? (and other groups as well like Nazis).

JackBlack you have just demonstrated your utter ignorance about billions of people across the world.

Way to demonstrate your racist bogan red neck beliefs

JackBlack you have just demonstrated your utter ignorance about billions of people across the world.

Way to demonstrate your racist bogan red neck beliefs

How?
Again, Islam isn't a race.
How is it racist in any way?

Again, they are free to choose to follow Islam or reject it.

Do you feel the same way about people not praising Nazis?
How about those saying ISIS are a bunch of terrorists.

Quote from: Shifter on January 20, 2020, 12:26:33 PM

JackBlack you have just demonstrated your utter ignorance about billions of people across the world.

Way to demonstrate your racist bogan red neck beliefs

How?
Again, Islam isn't a race.
How is it racist in any way?

Again, they are free to choose to follow Islam or reject it.

Do you feel the same way about people not praising Nazis?

Nazism didn't have billions of followers. And I've yet to know of one person who spouts ignorant BS on an entire religion and not harbour racist ideology. Certainly you have that bigoted 'I'm better than you' attitude on these forums.

There are countries which are 100% Muslim for example and you just called the lot of them, men, women and children abhorrent.

Certainly you have that bigoted 'I'm better than you' attitude on these forums.

As do you!

JackBlack, if you wish to discuss the difference between racism and islamophobia start a thread in Philosophy, Religion, and Society.

Blimey, Jack!  Really?

Always weird when someone you  agree with on many things drops a bombshell like that.

I’ll not say anymore here.  Just a little shocked.

American Airlines is black listed after racist scandale. Yehuda Yosef Adler, his wife Jennie and their young daughter were removed from the flight to Detroit last January. They claim staff made comments about their Orthodox Jewish faith. American Airlines said the decision to remove the family was not based on religion. They claim customers complained about Mr Adler's odour. The lawsuit, filed in Texas, cites defamation, emotional distress and discrimination relating to religion.

We are not a court and has not to wait till lawsuit ends. They have been blacklisted because of "claim of racism". Whether they are so, or not. But family claims it, it seems so, I believe it is so, I have not to be objective, I can not be objective, because there are many racist men in USA hence this seems natural to me, and as a last, we are always with the victims.

I don't know what their intentions are. we are not a court. but we are not obliged to act objectively. we are with that family even just because they are victims. Such an approach is unacceptable in the 21st century! What the century we are living in, medieval?

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=84695.msg2232902#msg2232902

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51324481

PS: We can only remove them if they apologize.

American Airlines is black listed after racist scandale. Yehuda Yosef Adler, his wife Jennie and their young daughter were removed from the flight to Detroit last January. They claim staff made comments about their Orthodox Jewish faith. American Airlines said the decision to remove the family was not based on religion. They claim customers complained about Mr Adler's odour. The lawsuit, filed in Texas, cites defamation, emotional distress and discrimination relating to religion.

We are not a court and has not to wait till lawsuit ends. They have been blacklisted because of "claim of racism". Whether they are so, or not. But family claims it, it seems so, I believe it is so, I have not to be objective, I can not be objective, because there are many racist men in USA hence this seems natural to me, and as a last, we are always with the victims.

I don't know what their intentions are. we are not a court. but we are not obliged to act objectively. we are with that family even just because they are victims. Such an approach is unacceptable in the 21st century! What the century we are living in, medieval?

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=84695.msg2232902#msg2232902

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51324481

PS: We can only remove them if they apologize.

So you never heard of the phrase innocent until proven guilty? Thus you trust every person that file a claim against an airline whatever the reason is that a person is either rejected boarding or removing from the aircraft. Pretty biased in my opinion.If you continue this you don't have any airline left that can be 'trusted' to fly with. Good job Wise!

Quote from: wise on January 31, 2020, 05:54:37 AM

American Airlines is black listed after racist scandale. Yehuda Yosef Adler, his wife Jennie and their young daughter were removed from the flight to Detroit last January. They claim staff made comments about their Orthodox Jewish faith. American Airlines said the decision to remove the family was not based on religion. They claim customers complained about Mr Adler's odour. The lawsuit, filed in Texas, cites defamation, emotional distress and discrimination relating to religion.

We are not a court and has not to wait till lawsuit ends. They have been blacklisted because of "claim of racism". Whether they are so, or not. But family claims it, it seems so, I believe it is so, I have not to be objective, I can not be objective, because there are many racist men in USA hence this seems natural to me, and as a last, we are always with the victims.

I don't know what their intentions are. we are not a court. but we are not obliged to act objectively. we are with that family even just because they are victims. Such an approach is unacceptable in the 21st century! What the century we are living in, medieval?

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=84695.msg2232902#msg2232902

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51324481

PS: We can only remove them if they apologize.

So you never heard of the phrase innocent until proven guilty? Thus you trust every person that file a claim against an airline whatever the reason is that a person is either rejected boarding or removing from the aircraft. Pretty biased in my opinion.If you continue this you don't have any airline left that can be 'trusted' to fly with. Good job Wise!

I have agreed them guilty as a preacceptance as a precaution. If they can prove they are innocent, or they apologize sure I can delete them. So much so that, the story of family seems more convincing to me and there is a possiblity Airline company can pressure both family and court and lead it to decide they are innocent. The only point I can agree, they have to either prove their innocence or an apologize.

Quote from: wise on January 31, 2020, 05:54:37 AM

American Airlines is black listed after racist scandale. Yehuda Yosef Adler, his wife Jennie and their young daughter were removed from the flight to Detroit last January. They claim staff made comments about their Orthodox Jewish faith. American Airlines said the decision to remove the family was not based on religion. They claim customers complained about Mr Adler's odour. The lawsuit, filed in Texas, cites defamation, emotional distress and discrimination relating to religion.

We are not a court and has not to wait till lawsuit ends. They have been blacklisted because of "claim of racism". Whether they are so, or not. But family claims it, it seems so, I believe it is so, I have not to be objective, I can not be objective, because there are many racist men in USA hence this seems natural to me, and as a last, we are always with the victims.

I don't know what their intentions are. we are not a court. but we are not obliged to act objectively. we are with that family even just because they are victims. Such an approach is unacceptable in the 21st century! What the century we are living in, medieval?

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=84695.msg2232902#msg2232902

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51324481

PS: We can only remove them if they apologize.

So you never heard of the phrase innocent until proven guilty? Thus you trust every person that file a claim against an airline whatever the reason is that a person is either rejected boarding or removing from the aircraft. Pretty biased in my opinion.If you continue this you don't have any airline left that can be 'trusted' to fly with. Good job Wise!

Wise is from Turkey and a flat earther.

Quote from: bright on January 31, 2020, 07:51:45 AM

Quote from: wise on January 31, 2020, 05:54:37 AM

American Airlines is black listed after racist scandale. Yehuda Yosef Adler, his wife Jennie and their young daughter were removed from the flight to Detroit last January. They claim staff made comments about their Orthodox Jewish faith. American Airlines said the decision to remove the family was not based on religion. They claim customers complained about Mr Adler's odour. The lawsuit, filed in Texas, cites defamation, emotional distress and discrimination relating to religion.

We are not a court and has not to wait till lawsuit ends. They have been blacklisted because of "claim of racism". Whether they are so, or not. But family claims it, it seems so, I believe it is so, I have not to be objective, I can not be objective, because there are many racist men in USA hence this seems natural to me, and as a last, we are always with the victims.

I don't know what their intentions are. we are not a court. but we are not obliged to act objectively. we are with that family even just because they are victims. Such an approach is unacceptable in the 21st century! What the century we are living in, medieval?

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=84695.msg2232902#msg2232902

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51324481

PS: We can only remove them if they apologize.

So you never heard of the phrase innocent until proven guilty? Thus you trust every person that file a claim against an airline whatever the reason is that a person is either rejected boarding or removing from the aircraft. Pretty biased in my opinion.If you continue this you don't have any airline left that can be 'trusted' to fly with. Good job Wise!

Wise is from Turkey and a flat earther.

Flat Earth SCIENTIST!

also, professor, and noble Social Justice Warrior!   

How is wise an SJW?  I knew he was crazy but I didn't think it was that bad.

Being a SJW is not a bad thing but I am not. At least, I dont think so.

While I despise racism in all forms, the phenomena of "guilt by accusation" is equally despicable.

While I despise racism in all forms, the phenomena of "guilt by accusation" is equally despicable.

this is proof that it supports racism. racism has nothing to do with this issue. You have been marked as a racist. for your information.

Quote from: wise on January 31, 2020, 05:54:37 AM

American Airlines is black listed after racist scandale. Yehuda Yosef Adler, his wife Jennie and their young daughter were removed from the flight to Detroit last January. They claim staff made comments about their Orthodox Jewish faith. American Airlines said the decision to remove the family was not based on religion. They claim customers complained about Mr Adler's odour. The lawsuit, filed in Texas, cites defamation, emotional distress and discrimination relating to religion.

We are not a court and has not to wait till lawsuit ends. They have been blacklisted because of "claim of racism". Whether they are so, or not. But family claims it, it seems so, I believe it is so, I have not to be objective, I can not be objective, because there are many racist men in USA hence this seems natural to me, and as a last, we are always with the victims.

I don't know what their intentions are. we are not a court. but we are not obliged to act objectively. we are with that family even just because they are victims. Such an approach is unacceptable in the 21st century! What the century we are living in, medieval?

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=84695.msg2232902#msg2232902

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51324481

PS: We can only remove them if they apologize.

So you never heard of the phrase innocent until proven guilty? Thus you trust every person that file a claim against an airline whatever the reason is that a person is either rejected boarding or removing from the aircraft. Pretty biased in my opinion.If you continue this you don't have any airline left that can be 'trusted' to fly with. Good job Wise!

It's simpler than that. There is a massive amount of evidence against the very possibility of a flat-Earth 
Hence flat-Earthers are forced to declare that all evidence against the flat-Earth that is not personally verified must be fabricated.

They even state this quite explicitly in this way.

Place of the Conspiracy in FET
. . . . . . . . Flat Earthers start with the knowledge that the earth is flat, as they believe that all the evidence which they are personally able to collect and verify confirms this fact. As a consequence, all the evidence to the contrary, much of which they are unable to personally test/verify is viewed as being false. The existence of such a huge quantity of false information indicates the existence of the conspiracy.

Essentially the reasoning boils down to -

P1) If personally unverifiable evidence contradicts an obvious truth then the evidence is fabricated
P2) The FET (Flat Earth Theory) is an obvious truth
P3) There is personally unverifiable evidence that contradicts the FET
C1) The unverifiable evidence that contradicts the FET is fabricated evidence
P4) If there is large amounts of fabricated evidence then there must be a conspiracy to fabricate it
P5) There is a large amount of fabricated evidence (see C1)
C2) There must be a conspiracy to fabricate it.

Note carefully the assumptions involved: "Flat Earthers starts with the knowledge that the earth is flat. . . . . .  As a consequence, all the evidence to the contrary, much of which they are unable to personally test/verify is viewed as being false."

Wise is a flat-Earther and as such automatically claim that any evidence that they consider contrary to the flat-Earth is fabricated.

But family claims it, it seems so, I believe it is so

So yet again you decide to be judge.

I have not to be objective, I can not be objective

Yes, it is quite obvious that you can't be objective. But if you want people to take your blacklisting seriously, you need to be objective.

because there are many racist men in USA hence this seems natural to me

i.e. you're a racist.

Such an approach is unacceptable in the 21st century! What the century we are living in, medieval?

Yes, such an approach is unacceptable in the 21st century. Your racism has made you conclude these people are guilty without any evidence.
In the civilised world people are presumed to be innocent until their guilt is proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

But again, does that mean you have gone through your list of flights to remove all the ones from them?

Quote from: Tessa Yuri on February 06, 2018, 02:42:46 AM

Quote from: brotherhood of the dome on February 06, 2018, 02:39:24 AM

You are perhaps a Russian but Russia is a hoax. Russia claims the areas actually are owned by China, owned by themselves. I'm not sure if there is Russia or not, except Yakuts, Moscow and North of them. 

I'm not Russian, but some flights be Russian faster than others.

Quote from: brotherhood of the dome on February 06, 2018, 02:40:17 AM

All speed differences considered. You can't fly faster than 1.000 km/h with an A320. None of the route you can't do it. If you claim it, you are a liar. I examined more than 100.000 flights and never saw an A320 runs faster than 900km/h. But some companies claim it. So it is a lie. But you don't aware it because you are ignorant in that issue.

You said the companies constantly claim it, but no-one has ever complained. If an aircraft company lied to you about the length of your flight, wouldn't you complain? I certainly would. Especially if they did it constantly.

Russians are generally drunk. So that Ruskies runs as how they are drunked and runs about 50% more than requered. Then people think that Russia is bigger. No, Russia is smaller than China, but Ruskies are not driving without drink a votka. Anyway I'm turning to my work. Thanks for your comment but means nothing for me.

  No no no, bro! May be some russians are generally drunk, but they can`t driving along 3 years in case road police control. Airplane speed consist from two parts: speed relative to air flow (and this speed is really less then sonic speed. about 900km/h) and speed of airfllow relative to Earth. As well known exists airflows with extreamly high speed, called "jetstreams" (up to 300km/h). So ground speed of airplane may have range from 600 up to 1200km/h in case A-320 for example.

Quote from: wise on February 06, 2018, 02:44:25 AM

Quote from: Tessa Yuri on February 06, 2018, 02:42:46 AM

Quote from: brotherhood of the dome on February 06, 2018, 02:39:24 AM

You are perhaps a Russian but Russia is a hoax. Russia claims the areas actually are owned by China, owned by themselves. I'm not sure if there is Russia or not, except Yakuts, Moscow and North of them. 

I'm not Russian, but some flights be Russian faster than others.

Quote from: brotherhood of the dome on February 06, 2018, 02:40:17 AM

All speed differences considered. You can't fly faster than 1.000 km/h with an A320. None of the route you can't do it. If you claim it, you are a liar. I examined more than 100.000 flights and never saw an A320 runs faster than 900km/h. But some companies claim it. So it is a lie. But you don't aware it because you are ignorant in that issue.

You said the companies constantly claim it, but no-one has ever complained. If an aircraft company lied to you about the length of your flight, wouldn't you complain? I certainly would. Especially if they did it constantly.

Russians are generally drunk. So that Ruskies runs as how they are drunked and runs about 50% more than requered. Then people think that Russia is bigger. No, Russia is smaller than China, but Ruskies are not driving without drink a votka. Anyway I'm turning to my work. Thanks for your comment but means nothing for me.

  No no no, bro! May be some russians are generally drunk, but they can`t driving along 3 years in case road police control. Airplane speed consist from two parts: speed relative to air flow (and this speed is really less then sonic speed. about 900km/h) and speed of airfllow relative to Earth. As well known exists airflows with extreamly high speed, called "jetstreams" (up to 300km/h). So ground speed of airplane may have range from 600 up to 1200km/h in case A-320 for example.

Hi mre. "jetstreams"  are not proven. They are urban legend created for correct map mistakes like magnetic deviation.

Quote from: dukovit on February 02, 2020, 11:49:20 AM

Quote from: wise on February 06, 2018, 02:44:25 AM

Quote from: Tessa Yuri on February 06, 2018, 02:42:46 AM

Quote from: brotherhood of the dome on February 06, 2018, 02:39:24 AM

You are perhaps a Russian but Russia is a hoax. Russia claims the areas actually are owned by China, owned by themselves. I'm not sure if there is Russia or not, except Yakuts, Moscow and North of them. 

I'm not Russian, but some flights be Russian faster than others.

Quote from: brotherhood of the dome on February 06, 2018, 02:40:17 AM

All speed differences considered. You can't fly faster than 1.000 km/h with an A320. None of the route you can't do it. If you claim it, you are a liar. I examined more than 100.000 flights and never saw an A320 runs faster than 900km/h. But some companies claim it. So it is a lie. But you don't aware it because you are ignorant in that issue.

You said the companies constantly claim it, but no-one has ever complained. If an aircraft company lied to you about the length of your flight, wouldn't you complain? I certainly would. Especially if they did it constantly.

Russians are generally drunk. So that Ruskies runs as how they are drunked and runs about 50% more than requered. Then people think that Russia is bigger. No, Russia is smaller than China, but Ruskies are not driving without drink a votka. Anyway I'm turning to my work. Thanks for your comment but means nothing for me.

  No no no, bro! May be some russians are generally drunk, but they can`t driving along 3 years in case road police control. Airplane speed consist from two parts: speed relative to air flow (and this speed is really less then sonic speed. about 900km/h) and speed of airfllow relative to Earth. As well known exists airflows with extreamly high speed, called "jetstreams" (up to 300km/h). So ground speed of airplane may have range from 600 up to 1200km/h in case A-320 for example.

Hi mre. "jetstreams"  are not proven. They are urban legend created for correct map mistakes like magnetic deviation.

And your proof that the 'jetstreams' are not proven is based on what? And the jetstreams are not caused by any magnetic deviation!

Hi mre. "jetstreams" are not proven. They are urban legend created for correct map mistakes like magnetic deviation.

You just say "jetstreams are not proven" but words without evidence are not enough.
Jetstreams are very important to high altitude aircraft and are the main reason for eastbound flights taking less time than westbound flights.

Read this about jetstreams: National Geographic: Jet Stream
Why would the National Geographic try to deceive anybody on something like that.
But if you disagree, please post evidence as to why the  "jetstreams" are not proven!

Then again you say "They are urban legend created for correct map mistakes like magnetic deviation.[/quote]"

The "magnetic deviation" is no "urban legend", though the correct name is magnetic declination.

Map makers have known about magnetic declination for 1000s of years.

Read this on magnetic declination:

Magnetic declination
Magnetic declination, or magnetic variation, is the angle on the horizontal plane between magnetic north (the direction the north end of a magnetized compass needle points, corresponding to the direction of the Earth's magnetic field lines) and true north (the direction along a meridian towards the geographic North Pole). This angle varies depending on position on the Earth's surface and changes over time.
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By convention, declination is positive when magnetic north is east of true north, and negative when it is to the west. Isogonic lines are lines on the Earth's surface along which the declination has the same constant value, and lines along which the declination is zero are called agonic lines. The lowercase Greek letter δ (delta) is frequently used as the symbol for magnetic declination.

The term magnetic deviation is sometimes used loosely to mean the same as magnetic declination, but more correctly it refers to the error in a compass reading induced by nearby metallic objects, such as iron on board a ship or aircraft.

Magnetic declination should not be confused with magnetic inclination, also known as magnetic dip, which is the angle that the Earth's magnetic field lines make with the downward side of the horizontal plane.

Level curves drawn on a declination map to denote the magnetic declination, described by signed degrees. Each level curve is an isogonic line.

Is Pegasus Airlines on your list yet?

Is Pegasus Airlines on your list yet?

Is that the airline that the plane fell apart upon landing in Turkey?