Q: "What about satellites? How do they orbit the Earth?

From the FAQ:

Q: "What about the stars, sun and moon and other planets? Are they flat too? What are they made of?"

A: The sun and moon, each 32 miles in diameter, circle Earth at a height of 3000 miles at its equator, located midway between the North Pole and the ice wall. Each functions as a "spotlight," with the sun radiating "hot light," the moon "cold light." As they are spotlights, they only give light out over a certain are which explains why some parts of the Earth are dark when others are light. Their apparent rising and setting are caused by optical illusions.

That has first of all been disproven. Second, what about the eclipses of other planets? Their lighted surfaces are always directed "towards" the suns direction - because the sun is the lightsource.

That has first of all been disproven.

Where?

Second, what about the eclipses of other planets? Their lighted surfaces are always directed "towards" the suns direction - because the sun is the lightsource.

You mean the other "planets'" "lighted" surfaces are always facing Earth. Not the sun.

Where?

On this forum.

You mean the other "planets'" "lighted" surfaces are always facing Earth. Not the sun.

No, the sun.

On this forum.

Where on this forum?

No, the sun.

Can you show any evidence of this?

Where on this forum?

Search.

Can you show any evidence of this?

Not that you would believe, but I can suggest you get yourself a good telescope and start observing the planets in space. It's a good start.

Search.

Why don't you show me? Since you apparently know where it is.

Not that you would believe, but I can suggest you get yourself a good telescope and start observing the planets in space. It's a good start.

I have an excellent telescope already. And I have observed the planets on many occasions.

Why don't you show me? Since you apparently know where it is.

I don't know and I don't intend to go through the trouble of searching only to strengthen my point for you.

I have an excellent telescope already. And I have observed the planets on many occasions.

I doubt it, otherwise you wouldn't act like a jackass.

I don't know and I don't intend to go through the trouble of searching only to strengthen my point for you.

Weren't you trying to prove the point to me in the first place? Couldn't you at least give me the name of the person who wrote it? Or at least the gist of their argument?

I doubt it, otherwise you wouldn't act like a jackass.

When have I acted like a jackass, Xargo? And actually, I do in fact have a telescope, it's an Orion SkyQuest XT10 .

And actually, I do in fact have a telescope, it's an Orion SkyQuest XT10 .

Use it. Perhaps with eyes open...

I use it quite often, Yeah. And I have yet to do so with my eyes closed.

I use it quite often, Yeah. And I always keep my eyes open.

Then I really wonder why you think that the earth is flat...

Perhaps it's what I've seen through the lens that has led me to my beliefs.

Perhaps I do not, as you have assumed, believe the Earth is flat.

Perhaps I do not, as you have assumed, believe the Earth is flat.

Seriously, does anybody really believe that the earth is flat?

Only people who post in the "FE believers" section are FE's.

Only people who post in the "FE believers" section are FE's.

Or people who fooled people who really believe that the earth is flat...or it's a conspiracy and nobody really believes it.

...on the other hand it's more likely that someone really believes it.

Sun set and rise are optical illusions.

That's total bullshit and you freaking know it.

Care to provide any evidence for this? Since you're going against even the explanation for the RE sunset, I assume you must have some.

Care to provide any evidence for this? Since you're going against even the explanation for the RE sunset, I assume you must have some.

What the ?

The RE model's Sun set is explained by the rotation of the Earth. There is no optical illusion in this.

The only optical illusion in the RE is when the Sun is near the horizon (which exists, you can't deny this, unless you're blind) and it sets or rises faster then it does in reality because of the air that changes the trajectory of light (same thing that when you look in the water, the distances are changed : same thing with air, and this is approved by about all scientists in this world).

You're so blind that you won't even hear total evidence. When something in the RE model (which is based on REALITY) can't be explained by the FE model, the first excuse is "an optical illusion" and the second is "a conspiracy". At least you didn't say that it's a conspiracy, but I have hear some FEers saying that the horizon was a large poster.

If you arguments are based on "is it true that 1 plus 1 equals 2", then what can I do ? Open your eyes and you'll see.

So, you're saying that the sun actually turns red every time it sets? And you think the FE theory is strange.

So, you're saying that the sun actually turns red every time it sets? And you think the FE theory is strange.

This have been explained by light : when the sun hits a certain angle, some colors don't penetrate the atmosphere. The most dominant, blue, doesn't. So the sun and sky turns red and orange.

You can prove this by calling your friend in another country, or far away from where you live, and he'll see the sun yellow, as it is in the day. But you see it red. That's only a question of angle of penetration of the light.

And I think that there's better ways to defend the FE theory than accusing the Sun set of being an optical illusion............

Ok, so the angle the sun sets at, the speed at which it sets, and its color and shape while setting are all optical illusions. How is this any different than the FE explanation?

Ok, so the angle the sun sets at, the speed at which it sets, and its color and shape while setting are all optical illusions. How is this any different than the FE explanation?

The FE says that the Sun set itself is an optical illusion, like if the Sun would never set.

The RE says that the Sun set causes some optical illusion, but the Sun sets. It's not an optical illusion that the Sun sets.

Think before you post something else.

If you knew a little bit about optics, you would understand this. Apparently, you didn't catch the importance of my comparison with water.

Actually, the FE says the exact same thing, that the sun setting causes optical illusions which make the sun appear to set in a different manner than it actually is.

Their apparent rising and setting are caused by optical illusions.

Apparent rising and setting.

 :arrow: This means that they don't actually rise or set.

In other words, this quote means that we may think that they set and rise but that's only an optical illusion. They don't actually rise or set. It's only an optical illusion.

That is what the FE theory says.

Right, they simply move over a different area, just like the RE model.

Right, they simply move over a different area, just like the RE model.

Whatever.

You have a magic sight of the world. The Sun can't change direction. It lights ALL OVER THE FUCKING PLACE. It's NOT a spotlight. It's round and we have MANY photographs to prove it. You, FEers, don't.

You take REALITY and you change it in STUPIDITY.

It - is - impossible - that - a - star - lights - only - one - place - because - it - decided - in - some - way - to - do - so.

Your theory is scientifically IMPOSSIBLE. IM-POS-SI-BLE.


I'm tired of discussing with total retards that take their childhood illusions as reality. If only you had real arguments, not modified facts.

Plus, the needed optical illusion needed for the Sun to go to another place (I saw the illustration of the model in another section of the forum) is physically impossible. I'd see the Sun any way, because your model includes a flat Earth. So, with a telescope, I can virtually see everywhere. Which is not true, again.