A dishonest lie: "Port Moresby is in the North but magnetic west!!"

Ball heads are deceiving Sydney people with talking like this:

"Port Moresby is in the North but magnetic west. Why they produce this lie? Because there is not enough room in their map for place to Australia. Australia should move more east, but there is no room. For that, they narrowed whole Ocenia. Port Moresby actually is in the west of Australia. But there is no room for Port Moresby. So that, they placed it to North of Australia, and created a "so called magnetic map" shows Moresby as west!

In reality, Port Moresby is in the westt of Australia.

In ball heads mentality, Port Moresby is in geographic north but magnetic west. What a nonsence.

Only idiots believe this lie.

There is no idiots remained in this small world; you ball heads!

This is magnetic inclanation map.



If you take care, Port Moresby is about in the North side of Sydney in this fake/ball map.

But magnetic map deceives Australian as: "Actually it is in the North, but your compass shows it on west".

This flat map projections depend on ball map so these are wrong too:



Wrong!



Ball map is already wrong.

Ahahah only new official flat earth society map is true:



I'm sure that you think why they do that? Why they need to do such a thing. Because they know you are stupid enough to believe them!

Dishonest lies are the worst kind!

Ball heads are deceiving Sydney people with talking like this:

"Port Moresby is in the North but magnetic west. Why they produce this lie? Because there is not enough room in their map for place to Australia. Australia should move more east, but there is no room. For that, they narrowed whole Ocenia. Port Moresby actually is in the west of Australia. But there is no room for Port Moresby. So that, they placed it to North of Australia, and created a "so called magnetic map" shows Moresby as west!

In reality, Port Moresby is in the westt of Australia.

In ball heads mentality, Port Moresby is in geographic north but magnetic west. What a nonsence.

Only idiots believe this lie.

There is no idiots remained in this small world; you ball heads!

This is magnetic inclanation map.



If you take care, Port Moresby is about in the North side of Sydney in this fake/ball map.

But magnetic map deceives Australian as: "Actually it is in the North, but your compass shows it on west".

This flat map projections depend on ball map so these are wrong too:



Wrong!



Ball map is already wrong.

Ahahah only new official flat earth society map is true:



I'm sure that you think why they do that? Why they need to do such a thing. Because they know you are stupid enough to believe them!

Rather than make any rash statements about  the accuracy of your map (which  is rather difficult not to do so....LOL)  I would need to know some orientations ?.....What is north, south, east or west in your map ?.......What are the compass bearings between various cities on you map ? For example, those from Dallas to San Antonio, El Paso, Atlanta,  Boston, New York, etc. ?
I am using these because they are ln ones of which I am most familiar.
You, Sir Brotherhood, are dealing with a mapaholic ! LOL

Are you saying that you are the only person on the earth (be it a flat disc or a round globe) who is not an idiot ?

Way to center is always north. Opposite is south. west and east are as classic how was they are earlier: Take North to up and south to down, then right rotating side is east and left one is west.

I'll add latitudes and longtitudes soon, perhaps in next a few weeks.

Quote from: Googleotomy on January 24, 2018, 11:20:55 AM

Way to center is always north. Opposite is south. west and east are as classic how was they are earlier: Take North to up and south to down, then right rotating side is east and left one is west.

That would be normal.
Now how about the compas bearings as I mentioned ?

I'll add latitudes and longtitudes soon, perhaps in next a few weeks.

Are you going to draw in the shapes of the continents as they are shown on most maps ?
Wouldn't it make it easier to understand your map if you did that ?
Just a suggestion.
Just trying to be helpful.
Just waiting to see the finished product of the most accurate map of the world !

Ball heads are deceiving Sydney people with talking like this:

"Port Moresby is in the North but magnetic west. Why they produce this lie? Because there is not enough room in their map for place to Australia. Australia should move more east, but there is no room. For that, they narrowed whole Ocenia. Port Moresby actually is in the west of Australia. But there is no room for Port Moresby. So that, they placed it to North of Australia, and created a "so called magnetic map" shows Moresby as west!

No, you're misreading that map and that's leading you to the wrong conclusion.

In reality, Port Moresby is in the [west] of Australia.

In ball heads mentality, Port Moresby is in geographic north but magnetic west. What a nonsence.

Only idiots believe this lie.

I don't believe you're lying, I believe you're simply mistaken.

There is no idiots remained in this small world; you ball heads!

This is magnetic inclanation map.

No, that's a magnetic declination map. The purple contour lines indicate how many degrees a magnetic compass deviates from pointing true north and south. The "North!" arrow you drew on it is in the wrong direction. According to that map the magnetic declination at Sydney, Australia is 12.5° east - that means that magnetic north is 12.5° east of true north; roughly toward Brisbane from Sydney.

There's no lying involved. Since the magnetic poles are not coincident with the geographic poles and the geomagnetic field is not a simple dipole field, you need to be aware of this and usually need to correct for it if you're using a magnetic compass to find direction.

[Edit] Clarify which contours the comments refer to.

Ball heads are deceiving Sydney people with talking like this:

Nope, like always you are the one trying to decive.

"Port Moresby is in the North but magnetic west. Why they produce this lie? Because there is not enough room in their map for place to Australia. Australia should move more east, but there is no room. For that, they narrowed whole Ocenia. Port Moresby actually is in the west of Australia. But there is no room for Port Moresby. So that, they placed it to North of Australia, and created a "so called magnetic map" shows Moresby as west!

You seem to have left off where the quote ends.
Who said this?
I am yet to hear anyone say such nonsense, except you now.
Port Moresby is north of Australia, and is not located due west if you follow magnetic north.

Only idiots believe this lie.

Which is why we aren't believing your lie.

This is magnetic inclanation map.

And you clearly have no idea how to read it.
That is not the direction of north.
These are iso-lines. They mark out positions of equal magnetic declination. Sydney is located at roughly 12.5 degrees. That means Magnetic north for sydney is roughly 12.5 degrees from true north, that is no where near where you have shown it.
This can be confirmed by observations of the stars where you determine the position of the north and south celestial poles and compare that to a magnet.
So there isn't some magic hidden conspiracy.
You just don't understand how to read again.

If you take care, Port Moresby is about in the North side of Sydney in this fake/ball map.

You mean in reality.

But magnetic map deceives Australian as: "Actually it is in the North, but your compass shows it on west".

No, the compass shows itis north.
Also, I notice that you try going from Sydney, rather than much closer locations where the magnetic declination is even less. Why is that?

This flat map projections depend on ball map so these are wrong too:

Yes, because no one has been able to provide a flat map that works other than as a projection of a globe.

Ahahah only new official flat earth society map is true:

Who died and made you king?
That map is just as wrong as all the prior FE maps.
You have Sydney way to far away from various locations, like Santiago.
You need to connect the outside of the map as a point.

I'm sure that you think why they do that? Why they need to do such a thing. Because they know you are stupid enough to believe them!

No, we are not stupid enough to believe you.

Ball heads are deceiving Sydney people with talking like this:

"Port Moresby is in the North but magnetic west. Why they produce this lie? Because there is not enough room in their map for place to Australia. Australia should move more east, but there is no room. For that, they narrowed whole Ocenia. Port Moresby actually is in the west of Australia. But there is no room for Port Moresby. So that, they placed it to North of Australia, and created a "so called magnetic map" shows Moresby as west!

THAT IS NOT A MAGNETIC MAP!

In reality, Port Moresby is in the westt of Australia.

NO! Port Moresby is a little west of Sydney, but is NOT west of Australia!

In ball heads mentality, Port Moresby is in geographic north but magnetic west. What a nonsence.
Only idiots believe this lie. There is no idiots remained in this small world; you ball heads!

NO! Only idiots believe the rubbish your quote because you are totally ignorant of science, physics, geography, map-making and aircraft routes.
Stop being a stupid idiot and pretending that you know anything about these things - YOU DON'T!

This is magnetic inclanation map.

NO! It is not a "magnetic inclanation map" or even a magnetic inclination map.

Look READ THIS! For a start you map is NOT a "magnetic inclanation map", it is a magnetic declination map.

Magnetic Inclination and Declination
Magnetic declination is the angle between magnetic north (the direction the north end of a compass needle points) and true north. The declination is positive when the magnetic north is east of true north.

Magnetic inclination is the angle made by a compass needle when the compass is held in a vertical orientation. Positive values of inclination indicate that the field is pointing downward, into the Earth, at the point of measurement.

From: AUTOQUAD, Magnetic Inclination and Declination

Magnetic declination and inclination are NOT of themselves indications if direction!

Here is a Magnetic Declination Map/b] of Australia and New Guinea.

Quote from: brotherhood of the dome on January 24, 2018, 11:32:06 AM

I'll add latitudes and longtitudes soon, perhaps in next a few weeks.

Are you going to draw in the shapes of the continents as they are shown on most maps ?
Wouldn't it make it easier to understand your map if you did that ?
Just a suggestion.
Just trying to be helpful.
Just waiting to see the finished product of the most accurate map of the world !

I prepare it as an infrastructure. I am doing this in order to let everybody make measurements on it completely and to make it comfortable. will be able to use it as desired. I'll constantly add new cities on it. Placement of countries is not my job, it is not my specialty. I am a technical man do technical work. I do not want to discuss this issue anymore. That's enough.

It appears that the 'Brotherhood of the Dome' is not familiar with the map he found somewhere. No shame in that, but please educate yourself. A very 'Technical Person' can do no less.

I am a long distance sailor and it appears that others here are also. We see and deal with the RE every day and wonder if the FE folks are serious, or just pulling our leg. When I began, we trusted our lives to Celestial Navigation and maps like at the top of the post. I am alive today because Celestial Navigation allowed me to find small islands on the round Earth. We were well "outside of the Equator", where FE does not work at all.

I am happy to help tell anyone how to actually 'see' the shape of our Earth for themselves. With their own eyes. No need to trust me, or trust anything, but your eyes and your mind.

It would save a lot of time. But, that is off topic. There is a reference book that we use in Navigation. It is pretty dry and technical, but it has explanations of what the map shown above is for and how to read it, which should be the present point. The whole book can be found at:

https://msi.nga.mil/NGAPortal/MSI.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=msi_portal_page_62&pubCode=0002 

Look for 'magnetic variation' and 'magnetic declination'. It is not very complicated. But, I doubt you can get it to work on FE.   You are welcome to try.

Another member of the gang. Lie gang, deceitfull gang, evil gang, God damn gang!

I have not nice at all to meet you.

Another member of the gang. Lie gang, deceitfull gang, evil gang, God damn gang!

Who's the new member of your gang?

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I hope this can help with accuracy.

Sao Paulo is 23.43 degrees south, which can be easily measured.
Sun overhead for winter solstice will prove it.

Macapa, Brazil is at Equator.
Sun overhead for equinox can prove it.
How far is from Sao Paulo to Macapa?

Belem, Brazil is 1.5 degrees south, not far from Macapa.
How far is from Sao Paulo to Belem?

Also, Quito, Ecuador is at Equator.
How far is from Quito to Macapa?
How far is from Quito to Sao Paulo?

And all that for Antofagasta, Chile, at 23.6 degrees south?
(Sun overhead for winter solstice will be 10 miles north of the city.)
How far from Quito?
How far from Sao Paulo?
How far from Macapa?

Globe got checkmated (again) ~

For Phew FE map AKA South centered FE map, the grids are curved according to the sun path & sun light arrival: vertically bends to east due north; horizontally the same as AE FE map Except: it shapes reverse "U" n circles the south pole as the center.

SO... the "North" is relative and "East" is actually rather "South East" coz the sun comes from that direction (after refracted by the glass firmament).

How uniform can Earth's magnetic field be at distances of thousands kilometers?

How uniform can ANY magnetic field be at distances of thousands of kilometers?

Globe got checkmated (again) ~

For Phew FE map AKA South centered FE map, the grids are curved according to the sun path & sun light arrival: vertically bends to east due north; horizontally the same as AE FE map Except: it shapes reverse "U" n circles the south pole as the center.

SO... the "North" is relative and "East" is actually rather "South East" coz the sun comes from that direction (after refracted by the glass firmament).

Nope. The globe remains unscathed,

You seem to have no idea what this map is.
This is a map of magnetic declination.
This can (and has) been measured.

Try to go north from Sydney, you'll never find Papua New Guenea.

Dump your globe map! 

Try to go north from Sydney, you'll never find Papua New Guenea.

Dump your globe map! 

No, you will find it, sure you will need to cross a large amount of Australia and then some water before doing so, but you will get there.
Just make sure you understand magnetic declination so you actually go north.

Why would I dump the only model which has been shown to work?
Dump your FE garbage.

Ahahah only new official flat earth society map is true:

What is the distance scale of the map and what is the yellow line?

Try to go north from Sydney, you'll never find Papua New Guenea.

Dump your globe map! 

Go find out.

Try to go north from Sydney, you'll never find Papua New Guenea.

Dump your globe map! 

Celestial navigation (navigation by stars and Sun) doesn't use magnetic compass at all.
Modern GPS systems don't use magnetic compass at all.

And people who use compass also use magnetic declination maps and know what corrections they need.
They know how to use magnetic compass correctly.
Magnetic declination maps are public and available, so everybody knows what compass readings really mean.
Everybody who really wants to know.

And people who use compass also use magnetic declination maps and know what corrections they need.
They know how to use magnetic compass correctly.
Magnetic declination maps are public and available, so everybody knows what compass readings really mean.
Everybody who really wants to know.

This is literally easy enough that you can teach a child how to do it.  In the US, Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts are taught this when they are around ten years old.  I'm sure it's the same all over the world, where ever you find outdoor activity clubs for children.