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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #240 on: February 12, 2018, 08:13:54 AM »
They will claim whatever they want to get the patent.
If air caused recoil then different grain bullets would recoil the same. Gunpowder amount would also not matter.

Can you just think for once. Please?
Wait a minute...

You are claiming the amount of air displaced is the same for a .44 Magnum bullet as it is for a .22 Long Rifle bullet?

Please elucidate the audience!
Did I just tell you not to jump to stupid conclusions? 
I was talking about the same gun, to keep the barrel the same, will have different recoil if different grain bullet or amount of gunpowder is used.

Understand?
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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #241 on: February 12, 2018, 08:35:53 AM »
I don't think he does.

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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #242 on: February 12, 2018, 09:11:36 AM »
The RE should not be mentioning guns at all, especially rail guns.

In the one of the most famous experiments of the 20th century, Dr. Graneau proved that energy efficiency equation of the rail gun disproves the theory of relativity:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1993276#msg1993276

See, that was a great post, sandokhan.

I learned something from it.

Which I have never done from any post, by any REtard, on any subject, on this entire forum, ever...

Which is why I won't sit back when I see them trying to troll you off the forum.

Well, until my next unjustified ban, anyway.
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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #243 on: February 12, 2018, 09:18:26 AM »
You've been banned? Nice!

Actually, had you read or checked the links many have shown you, you would have learned many things. So don't blame us for not being willing to educate yourself.

EDIT: The railgun issue is intriguing, in any case.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2018, 09:28:40 AM by rvlvr »

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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #244 on: February 12, 2018, 09:35:31 AM »
Actually, had you read or checked the links many have shown you, you would have learned many things.

O rly?

Here's a link showing that the rabbibot thinks satellites sit on tables:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=72335.msg2020523#msg2020523

All I'll learn from that is that the rabbibot is mental.

So yeah - learning every day, creepy weirdo Paul!
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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #245 on: February 12, 2018, 09:39:47 AM »
Even though you despise Rabinoz, there are others.

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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #246 on: February 12, 2018, 10:01:22 AM »
Rabinoz claiming gravity does not force things downwards, as well as several other mad things:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=72335.msg1968575#msg1968575

Oh, I am learning so MANY mad, mad facts from these REtards!
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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #247 on: February 12, 2018, 02:23:18 PM »
Einstein said gravity is not a force. So take it up with him.

Did you learn what causes a gun to recoil yet?
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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #248 on: February 12, 2018, 03:01:41 PM »
Actually, had you read or checked the links many have shown you, you would have learned many things.
O rly?

Here's a link showing that the rabbibot thinks satellites sit on tables:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=72335.msg2020523#msg2020523

Gravity does not always accelerate things. Gravity will only accelerate an object at g when no other force is involved.

Gravity not forcing Physics Book down.
         
Gravity not forcing Satellite in orbit down!

I knew the Demented Voodoo Priest was an ignorant idiot, but I assumed that even he might know the difference between a Physics Book and a Satellite.

Rabinoz claiming gravity does not force things downwards, as well as several other mad things:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=72335.msg1968575#msg1968575

I had thought that even a Demented Voodoo Priest might realise that gravity is not forcing the book on a chair any further down and
gravity is not forcing the ISS down, as it has been in orbit for 19 years, 2 months, 23 days as of 12 February 2018.

It looks as though our poor Demented Voodoo Priest is in need of either remedial education or psychiatric care.

I can't believe that any real person could come up with your stupidity, but then I won't argue with what old Albert did not say:

“Two things are infinite: the universe and Papa Legba's stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
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You just have to look all Papa's posts to realise the truth in that.

Bye bye whoever is the controller for this obvious alt troll we call Papa Legba because there is no way any real person could be as stupid as he!
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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #249 on: February 12, 2018, 03:20:59 PM »
Watch:

The gun does not recoil until ten bullet is well out of the barrel.
So, yet another lie from the rabbibot and his sockpuppet Chum.
The initial recoil is captured by the slide of the gun. That uses the recoil to eject the empty cartridge and load the next round.
But it can only move so far, and the springs start transferring force to the rest of the pistol and by extension the hand.
If you watch the video, you notice the main body of the pistol starts moving backwards before the gasses finish exiting the barrel, showing quite conclusively that gasses reentering the barrel is not required to produce recoil.

As for gravity, rab said it doesn't always accelerate things down. Regarding satellites, that depends on what you mean by "down".
As the acceleration due to gravity keeps them in an orbit, it can be said that it doesn't accelerate them down.
This is a combination of their inertia and the curvature of Earth (more technically the curvature of their orbital path). Their inertia would take them off to the side, with the curvature of Earth resulting in the distance to Earth increasing and thus apparently making them go up (aka the apparent centrifugal force). Gravity combats this and keeps the roughly the same distance from Earth.

If it was in a sub-orbital trajectory, gravity would win and pull them down to Earth.
If they were in an escape trajectory, the curvature of Earth wins and they go flying off, with the acceleration due to gravity being too weak to bring them back down to Earth.
For an elliptical orbit, it oscillates between the 2. At one stage their forward (equivalent to the horizontal component for a circular orbit) velocity is greater than that for a circular orbit and the curvature of Earth wins and they get higher, slowing down in the process. At other stages (i.e. after they slow down enough) their forward component is too small, and gravity wins pulling them down accelerating them in the process until their forwards speed is too great.
The reason gravity can affect their forwards velocity is because their path is no tangential to gravity at all times.

And all of this is irrelevant to the OP.
Can you explain why the towers appear to follow the curvature of a round Earth if Earth was flat?
Lens distortion as well as the towers curving left or right have already been ruled out as possible contributors.

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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #250 on: February 13, 2018, 12:03:13 AM »
Actually, had you read or checked the links many have shown you, you would have learned many things.
O rly?

Here's a link showing that the rabbibot thinks satellites sit on tables:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=72335.msg2020523#msg2020523

Gravity does not always accelerate things. Gravity will only accelerate an object at g when no other force is involved.

Gravity not forcing Physics Book down.
         
Gravity not forcing Satellite in orbit down!

I knew the Demented Voodoo Priest was an ignorant idiot, but I assumed that even he might know the difference between a Physics Book and a Satellite.

Where's the imaginary table you claim the satellite is sitting on, rabbibot?

Or is it in free fall, like I claim and you lie about, repeatedly?
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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #251 on: February 13, 2018, 12:47:57 AM »
What about recoil, and the fact you were proven wrong?

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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #252 on: February 13, 2018, 01:06:59 AM »
Actually, had you read or checked the links many have shown you, you would have learned many things.
O rly?

Here's a link showing that the rabbibot thinks satellites sit on tables:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=72335.msg2020523#msg2020523

Gravity does not always accelerate things. Gravity will only accelerate an object at g when no other force is involved.

Gravity not forcing Physics Book down.
         
Gravity not forcing Satellite in orbit down!

I knew the Demented Voodoo Priest was an ignorant idiot, but I assumed that even he might know the difference between a Physics Book and a Satellite.

Where's the imaginary table you claim the satellite is sitting on, rabbibot?

Or is it in free fall, like I claim repeatedly?
As I thought! The Demented Voodoo Priest can't even read.

I never mentioned any satellite is sitting on any table, unless the Demented Voodoo Priest thinks that this is a satellite sitting on and table:

Gravity not accelerating Physics Book.
That,  Mr Demented Voodoo Priest, is a Physics book sitting on the table. Only an idiot could confuse a Physics book with a satellite.

But, I will agree with you in one point, a satellite is in free fall (though following a geodesic in curved spacetime might be a more precise way to describe it) but somehow manages to miss the earth all the time.

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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #253 on: February 13, 2018, 01:09:32 AM »
What about recoil, and the fact you were proven wrong?

That never happened.

The jackbot wrote some mad post that I never read and the rest of you just shitposted. 

But as long as you derail from the rabbibot's mad ramblings, job done I guess?

Love the little fella, don't you?

That is because you are all bots working together.

And oh, look - the rabbibot snuck in a post as I was writing this...

Every time you do that it proves this forum is run by bots btw...

But everyone knows that, so meh.
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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #254 on: February 13, 2018, 01:14:14 AM »
Gravity does not always accelerate things. Gravity will only accelerate an object at g when no other force is involved.

Gravity not forcing Physics Book down.
         
Gravity not forcing Satellite in orbit down!

Only an idiot could confuse a Physics book with a satellite.

Seems you're arguing with yourself now, rabbibot...

Shall I just leave you to it?
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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #255 on: February 13, 2018, 01:17:48 AM »
What about recoil, and the fact you were proven wrong?

That never happened.

The jackbot wrote some mad post that I never read and the rest of you just shitposted.

"The initial recoil is captured by the slide of the gun. That uses the recoil to eject the empty cartridge and load the next round. But it can only move so far, and the springs start transferring force to the rest of the pistol and by extension the hand.

If you watch the video, you notice the main body of the pistol starts moving backwards before the gasses finish exiting the barrel, showing quite conclusively that gasses reentering the barrel is not required to produce recoil."


How is that false?

EDIT: Oh yeah, you never read it. Figures.

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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #256 on: February 13, 2018, 01:29:18 AM »
What about recoil, and the fact you were proven wrong?

That never happened.

The jackbot wrote some mad post that I never read and the rest of you just shitposted.

"The initial recoil is captured by the slide of the gun. That uses the recoil to eject the empty cartridge and load the next round. But it can only move so far, and the springs start transferring force to the rest of the pistol and by extension the hand.

If you watch the video, you notice the main body of the pistol starts moving backwards before the gasses finish exiting the barrel, showing quite conclusively that gasses reentering the barrel is not required to produce recoil."


How is that false?

EDIT: Oh yeah, you never read it. Figures.

That does not address my claim.

Perhaps you should go back and read the patent before lying to me again?

But as long as you distract from the rabbibot's lies, job done I guess?

Quite the habit with you, eh?

Lying to protect liars...

I wonder why?
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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #257 on: February 13, 2018, 01:32:25 AM »
Where does it say the patent is the authority here?

Like one of us bots wrote, there are patent applications for perpetual motion machines, too. So a patent application makes those things real?

Fucking hell, Jerry. You can't be that dense.

Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #258 on: February 13, 2018, 01:34:38 AM »
What about recoil, and the fact you were proven wrong?
That never happened.
The jackbot wrote some mad post that I never read and the rest of you just shitposted.
i.e. you just ignore when people prove you wrong.

But as long as you derail
If you want to stop derailing, how about you address the pic in the OP?
What causes the curve?

Perhaps you should go back and read the patent before lying to me again?
Perhaps you should watch the video you provided before trying to use a patent as fact.
Guess what? Patents can be filled with whatever crap you want.
Something appearing in a patent doesn't mean it is true.

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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #259 on: February 13, 2018, 02:07:35 AM »
Yawn!

Another video for you to lie about, Debunkatron:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=2s&v=w4iraJVSdTA

Still, you redefined Newton's second law as Force equals Mass times Deceleration in another thread, so God only knows where your AI madness will lead next...
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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #260 on: February 13, 2018, 02:24:55 AM »
Another video for you to lie about, Debunkatron:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=2s&v=w4iraJVSdTA

Still, you redefined Newton's second law as Force equals Mass times Deceleration in another thread, so God only knows where your AI madness will lead next...
Are you capable of making a post which isn't full of lies?
This is just another video showing recoil caused by the gun, just like the last.
And so far, you are the only one to suggest force is mass times deceleration.

Now address the OP. What causes the curve?

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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #261 on: February 13, 2018, 02:25:36 AM »


I can YouTube, too!

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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #262 on: February 13, 2018, 02:37:57 AM »
The rabbibot plainly states it is here to waste my time:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=72335.msg2024715#msg2024715

How many other member's time is it wasting?

Sandokhan and dutchy for sure...

Not looking Rosy for the rabbibot, is it?
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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #263 on: February 13, 2018, 02:39:02 AM »
What about the video explaining recoil?

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« Reply #264 on: February 13, 2018, 02:46:27 AM »
What about the video explaining recoil?

The one that agreed with me you mean?

Or did you not watch it?

Lol of course you didn't - you can't because you are a bot.

SECONDARY RECOIL, botty boy.

Damn you're failing hard today.
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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #265 on: February 13, 2018, 02:51:39 AM »
There you have it, ladies and gentlemen.

The specimen exhibits super selective behaviour, only choosing sources which agree with it. The less scientific the better.

EDIT: Which part of the video was false? And how?

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« Reply #266 on: February 13, 2018, 03:00:32 AM »
Which part of the video was false? And how?

The video agreed with me.

You clearly haven't watched it.
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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #267 on: February 13, 2018, 03:06:01 AM »
How do you calculate recoil based on the non-model in the video you linked? You know, in our world, based on laws of physics, it can be done. Not sure about your bizarro world.

You choose to accept a collection of slo-mo over physics?

When you were hit over the head with a bowling ball, did your head move the instant it struck?

EDIT: The thing here is you know what you said is completely wrong, and it torments you. But you cannot back away, as you have to keep up the facade. This thing is somewhat different from the FE nonsense you defend, as you are not that clueless it comes to physics. You are willing to believe missing flights and conspiracies, and all that drivel, but this you know is wrong.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2018, 03:33:45 AM by rvlvr »

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« Reply #268 on: February 13, 2018, 03:28:45 AM »
More mad lies from the rabbibot:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=72335.msg2024750#msg2024750

They're piling up thick and fast!
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Re: Revisiting a commonly presented image...
« Reply #269 on: February 13, 2018, 03:32:38 AM »
Not sure what that has to do with recoil?