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Re: Nothing stopping you
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2018, 08:16:40 AM »
We already have a scientific community that engages in regular peer reviewed research. However, thank you for your suggestion.
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Re: Nothing stopping you
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2018, 11:18:36 AM »
We already have a scientific community that engages in regular peer reviewed research. However, thank you for your suggestion.
Yes, and it has shown quite conclusively that Earth is round. But you guys reject that.

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Re: Nothing stopping you
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2018, 05:56:54 PM »
I didn't tell you to lie, per se.  Obfuscate, that's a fair cop, but it isn't unethical or dishonest.  It is routinely done in research situations where you are trying to remove an emotional aspect from the study.  If you are trying to gauge a person's actual political leaning (as opposed to their stated leaning, which might be different), you might read them a politician's quote and ask if they agree or disagree, without telling them if it came from Trump or Obama.  You might even tell them it came from the opposite guy, to judge if they agree with the words or blindly follow the man no matter his words.

Same is true in other fields of inquiry.  In the marshmallow test, you don't tell the kids that you are testing their willpower to gauge their future success or failure.  If you are testing medicines (or the placebo effect itself), you don't tell the subjects if they got medicine or sugar pills.

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Mikey T.

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Re: Nothing stopping you
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2018, 08:42:14 PM »
I didn't tell you to lie, per se.  Obfuscate, that's a fair cop, but it isn't unethical or dishonest.  It is routinely done in research situations where you are trying to remove an emotional aspect from the study.  If you are trying to gauge a person's actual political leaning (as opposed to their stated leaning, which might be different), you might read them a politician's quote and ask if they agree or disagree, without telling them if it came from Trump or Obama.  You might even tell them it came from the opposite guy, to judge if they agree with the words or blindly follow the man no matter his words.

Same is true in other fields of inquiry.  In the marshmallow test, you don't tell the kids that you are testing their willpower to gauge their future success or failure.  If you are testing medicines (or the placebo effect itself), you don't tell the subjects if they got medicine or sugar pills.
Sam it is the same tired cop out that so many of the FE scammers try.  Show them results of an experiment that disagrees with their scam, they claim it is fake and they didn't personally see it.  Tell them how the experiment is set up and how to do it for themselves, they don't have the money or the time.  Give them a way to get it cheaper, usually this is where they disappear but sometimes you get creative dumbasses like our friend here, pretty silly but creative all the same.

John,
I would like to see actual peer reviewed and accepted evidence that clearly supports that the Earth must be flat, not results that could be possible on a flat Earth also, but actual evidence that could only happen on a flat Earth.