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Hollywood Sciences are everywhere with any outfit n appearance.

Stop talking for a while, just watch this authentic video. It is often a better way to upgrade... *IQ*.. 

Globe is helpless

FE... still has future.. a bright one ~

FE... still has future.. a bright one ~

Really?  Does that mean Kim Jong-un is a CIA agent or an actor who works for Hollywood movies?

Quote from: Danang on January 03, 2018, 09:59:41 PM

FE... still has future.. a bright one ~

Really?  Does that mean Kim Jong-un is a CIA agent or an actor who works for Hollywood movies?

If all the world current affairs is just a drama, world's politicians deserve Super Oscar. They're greatest entertainers ever! 

But I have no idea of the real fact about them.

If only you asked me about my cat.

I believe in my cat 

Globe is helpless

FE... still has future.. a bright one ~

Really? 
How far is it from Los Angeles to Beijing on your Smellie Flat Earth Map ?

Quote from: Danang on January 03, 2018, 09:59:41 PM

Globe is helpless

FE... still has future.. a bright one ~

Really? 
How far is it from Los Angeles to Beijing on your Smellie Flat Earth Map ?

I"ll bet you are very eager to show us your database containing accurate pictures, math, statistics etc. that explains your wobbly, tilted, spinning and accelerating ball.and all of it's ingredients.

Don't you ever want to change anything for the better in a new year ? 

Quote from: Danang on January 03, 2018, 09:59:41 PM

Globe is helpless

FE... still has future.. a bright one ~

Really? 
How far is it from Los Angeles to Beijing on your Smellie Flat Earth Map ?

I wish there was independent surveyors to give real data. I was sometimes doubtful when working out with my fragrant Phew FE map by quoting their data

Los Angeles - Beijing is around 1.25 of FE radius.

Don't you ever want to change anything for the better in a new year ? 

Changing the NASAphobe's mind might be a good start - I've heard it said, "Difficult jobs handled immediately, impossibilities take a little longer!"

But, you complain about my rotating earth, but many here have their earth accelerating upwards till it virtually reaches the speed of light.

Then one, who shall remain nameless (because I can't spell it!), claims that the WHOLE UNIVERSE is moving at almost 1 079 252 849 km/hr yet
you complain about the Globe orbiting the sun at about 107 430 km/hr. Be reasonable.

You don't like the Globe, but look at,

Bede the Venerable
The monk Bede (c. 672–735) wrote in his influential treatise on computus, The Reckoning of Time, that the Earth was round. He explained the unequal length of daylight from "the roundness of the Earth, for not without reason is it called 'the orb of the world' on the pages of Holy Scripture and of ordinary literature. It is, in fact, set like a sphere in the middle of the whole universe." (De temporum ratione,). The large number of surviving manuscripts of The Reckoning of Time, copied to meet the Carolingian requirement that all priests should study the computus, indicates that many, if not most, priests were exposed to the idea of the sphericity of the Earth.
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Bede was lucid about earth's sphericity, writing "We call the earth a globe, not as if the shape of a sphere were expressed in the diversity of plains and mountains, but because, if all things are included in the outline, the earth's circumference will represent the figure of a perfect globe... For truly it is an orb placed in the centre of the universe; in its width it is like a circle, and not circular like a shield but rather like a ball, and it extends from its centre with perfect roundness on all sides."
From: Spherical Earth

And then some time later in the 13th century Iohannes de Sacrobosco (a French scholar, monk and astronomer) wrote his treatise "De Sphaera" on the spheres, the earth and the celestial. He wrote

THE EARTH A SPHERE. -- That the earth, too, is round is shown thus. The signs and stars do not rise and set the same for all men everywhere but rise and set sooner for those in the east than for those in the west; and of this there is no other cause than the bulge of the earth. Moreover, celestial phenomena evidence that they rise sooner for Orientals than for westerners. For one and the same eclipse of the moon which appears to us in the first hour of the night appears to Orientals about the third hour of the night, which proves that they had night and sunset before we did, of which setting the bulge of the earth is the cause.

And evidence "That the earth also has a bulge from north to south" and "That the water has a bulge and is approximately round".
Such "modern science"!
"De Sphaera"  was regarded as one of the most definitive treatments of Ptolemaic cosmology. Iohannes de Sacrobosco most assuredly believed the earth to be a Globe and with very distant sun, moon and stars.

Yes, both the Venerable Bede and Iohannes de Sacrobosco believed that the earth was stationary as Bede said, " truly it is an orb placed in the centre of the universe".

So, dutchy, answer me this: When was your modern flat earth with its close, tiny sun, moon and stars invented?
They certainly did not seem to believe that 800 years ago or 1400 years ago.

I wish there was independent surveyors to give real data. I was sometimes doubtful when working out with my fragrant Phew FE map by quoting their data

Los Angeles - Beijing is around 1.25 of FE radius.

You can be your own independent surveyor, if you want.
It is easy to do it, if you have access to theodolite or sextant.
But, seeing how you twist Pi and other values, it won't help you.
You wouldn't be honest to yourself.

There are simple descriptions on the internet how to use sextant or theodolite.
Mark spot somewhere on the ground, and mark another spot 1852 meters away.
Now, using some geodesic or navigational instrument measure angle between two verticals, one at first spot, another at the second spot.
You will see that two verticals have angle of one arcminute between them.
Why the angle isn't zero?
Because the two verticals intersect in Earth's center.

1852 meters is one Nautical Mile, which is defined as length of one arcminute on sea level.
It is defined like that to make calculations in sea navigation easier.

Hollywood Sciences are everywhere with any outfit n appearance.

Stop talking for a while, just watch this authentic video. It is often a better way to upgrade... *IQ*.. 

Why are you calling it "Hollywood Sciences"?
Are you trying to say that it is "staged"?
Who is moving Sun during sunset or sunrise too far to the south?
Why it is not where Flat Earth map is trying to show?

Sorry, but cold real life facts are exposing your mistakes.

"Southern Hemisphlat"


This place is comedy gold!

"Southern Hemisphlat"


This place is comedy gold!

Yes , it's so true my friend !
Many believe we are spinning, speeding and rotating all day long in several directions, but claim it's perfectly normal to never experience any of it.
And some magic science that no one has ever confirmed in the real world explains all of it .

It's like Ernie from Sesamestreet who buys an invisible icecream...... only to buy with invisible money to deceive the deceiver.
I guess people really like their invisible icecreams......
Indeed this place is golden !!

Quote from: Here to laugh at you on January 04, 2018, 03:02:55 AM

"Southern Hemisphlat"


This place is comedy gold!

Yes , it's so true my friend !
Many believe we are spinning, speeding and rotating all day long in several directions, but claim it's perfectly normal to never experience any of it.
And some magic science that no one has ever confirmed in the real world explains all of it .

It's like Ernie from Sesamestreet who buys an invisible icecream...... only to buy with invisible money to deceive the deceiver.
I guess people really like their invisible icecreams......
Indeed this place is golden !!

You obviously don't know much about inertia.
I watched an FE video last night.
Guy couldn't get his head around how a plane flying at 500MPH
Flying in the direction of rotation of 1000MPH (His number)
Ever got to it's destination, Holy cow.

How fast can a bee fly?
I googled it and the first answer was 15MPH
Could be BS, doesn't really matter, let's go with it.

Said bee, is in your car in the back seat.
You are traveling at 60MPH.
Can the bee get to you and sting you?

According to your fellow FE's logic, no.
You are in no danger of being stung.

Reality though says the bee can get to you.
Bee doesn't have to fly 61 mph to get to you.

We don't feel the speed we're going at
Because we are going that speed.

Quote from: dutchy on January 04, 2018, 06:21:22 AM

Quote from: Here to laugh at you on January 04, 2018, 03:02:55 AM

"Southern Hemisphlat"


This place is comedy gold!

Yes , it's so true my friend !
Many believe we are spinning, speeding and rotating all day long in several directions, but claim it's perfectly normal to never experience any of it.
And some magic science that no one has ever confirmed in the real world explains all of it .

It's like Ernie from Sesamestreet who buys an invisible icecream...... only to buy with invisible money to deceive the deceiver.
I guess people really like their invisible icecreams......
Indeed this place is golden !!

You obviously don't know much about inertia.
I watched an FE video last night.
Guy couldn't get his head around how a plane flying at 500MPH
Flying in the direction of rotation of 1000MPH (His number)
Ever got to it's destination, Holy cow.

How fast can a bee fly?
I googled it and the first answer was 15MPH
Could be BS, doesn't really matter, let's go with it.

Said bee, is in your car in the back seat.
You are traveling at 60MPH.
Can the bee get to you and sting you?

According to your fellow FE's logic, no.
You are in no danger of being stung.

Reality though says the bee can get to you.
Bee doesn't have to fly 61 mph to get to you.

We don't feel the speed we're going at
Because we are going that speed.

Apples and oranges...your car is a closed system.....earth is not.
Confirmed by the fact that some particles of the atmosphere indeed escape into the vacuum of space according to your science.

Open the window of an airplane and see what the bee does 

Ha ha ha!
Oh my goodness!

What would happen if I was standing on an open trailer.
Truck was pulling it along at 30 MPH and I jumped straight up.

Would I end up laying on the road, all busted up
Or would I land back on the trailer.

Like I said, you're always good for a laugh.

Ha ha ha!
Oh my goodness!

What would happen if I was standing on an open trailer.
Truck was pulling it along at 30 MPH and I jumped straight up.

Would I end up laying on the road, all busted up
Or would I land back on the trailer.

Like I said, you're always good for a laugh.

A baseball player is throwing a ball during a game near the equator and reaches a speed of 100 km per hour.
Let's say the distance the ball travels is 50 meters from A (South) to B (North).
The ball is thrown at a speed of 100.000 meters per 3600 seconds.
The distance of 50 meters at that speed is completed in an avarage 1.8 seconds.

The rotational speed of the earth at that latitude is 1500.000 meters per 3600 seconds.
In 1.8 seconds the earth has moved under the speeding ball (for you to figure out how much)
Does the baseball reach it's prefered target ?

Or is a pendulum swung indepenently from earth's rotation while being attached to earth and a baseball follows the rotation in a magic fashion while being thrown ?

It is late in the Netherlands....so my latenight calculations could be wrong.....but you get the idea.....
Looking forward to an accurate answer and explaination.

Quote from: ER22 on January 04, 2018, 04:22:32 PM

Ha ha ha!
Oh my goodness!

What would happen if I was standing on an open trailer.
Truck was pulling it along at 30 MPH and I jumped straight up.

Would I end up laying on the road, all busted up
Or would I land back on the trailer.

Like I said, you're always good for a laugh.

A baseball player is throwing a ball during a game near the equator and reaches a speed of 100 km per hour.
Let's say the distance the ball travels is 50 meters from A (South) to B (North).
The ball is thrown at a speed of 100.000 meters per 3600 seconds.
The distance of 50 meters at that speed is completed in an avarage 1.8 seconds.

The rotational speed of the earth at that latitude is 1500.000 meters per 3600 seconds.
In 1.8 seconds the earth has moved under the speeding ball (for you to figure out how much)
Does the baseball reach it's prefered target ?

Or is a pendulum swung indepenently from earth's rotation while being attached to earth and a baseball follows the rotation in a magic fashion while being thrown ?

It is late in the Netherlands....so my latenight calculations could be wrong.....but you get the idea.....
Looking forward to an accurate answer and explaination.

Do the same thing on a turntable.

Apples and oranges...your car is a closed system.....earth is not.
Confirmed by the fact that some particles of the atmosphere indeed escape into the vacuum of space according to your science.

Open the window of an airplane and see what the bee does 

Seadn with closed windows is somewhat "closed system" in which the air is going together with the car.
Convertible with open roof is "open system" in which air more or less has speed of outside space.

Air on Earth is going together with "car named Earth".
So, will it have characteristics of our sedan, or our convertible?

How to "open the window" on "airplane Earth"?
Where from will come external air to blow through atmosphere and replace it?

Correct.
There's no air outside.
The system is as closed as closed car.
Even the car is not airtight, but it won't stop the bee.

Do the same thing on a turntable.

Do be sure the turntable rotates at one revolution per 24 hours.

Quote from: ER22 on January 04, 2018, 04:22:32 PM

Ha ha ha!
Oh my goodness!

What would happen if I was standing on an open trailer.
Truck was pulling it along at 30 MPH and I jumped straight up.

Would I end up laying on the road, all busted up
Or would I land back on the trailer.

Like I said, you're always good for a laugh.

A baseball player is throwing a ball during a game near the equator and reaches a speed of 100 km per hour.
Let's say the distance the ball travels is 50 meters from A (South) to B (North).
The ball is thrown at a speed of 100.000 meters per 3600 seconds.
The distance of 50 meters at that speed is completed in an avarage 1.8 seconds.

The rotational speed of the earth at that latitude is 1500.000 meters per 3600 seconds.
In 1.8 seconds the earth has moved under the speeding ball (for you to figure out how much)
Does the baseball reach it's prefered target ?

Yes. The earth does not move 'under' the speeding ball. The speeding ball moves with the earth just as it was moving with the earth before it was thrown. That momentum isn't lost once it is thrown.

Quote from: ER22 on January 04, 2018, 04:22:32 PM

Ha ha ha!
Oh my goodness!

What would happen if I was standing on an open trailer.
Truck was pulling it along at 30 MPH and I jumped straight up.

Would I end up laying on the road, all busted up
Or would I land back on the trailer.

Like I said, you're always good for a laugh.

A baseball player is throwing a ball during a game near the equator and reaches a speed of 100 km per hour.
Let's say the distance the ball travels is 50 meters from A (South) to B (North).
The ball is thrown at a speed of 100.000 meters per 3600 seconds.
The distance of 50 meters at that speed is completed in an avarage 1.8 seconds.

The rotational speed of the earth at that latitude is 1500.000 meters per 3600 seconds.
In 1.8 seconds the earth has moved under the speeding ball (for you to figure out how much)
Does the baseball reach it's prefered target ?

Or is a pendulum swung indepenently from earth's rotation while being attached to earth and a baseball follows the rotation in a magic fashion while being thrown ?

It is late in the Netherlands....so my latenight calculations could be wrong.....but you get the idea.....
Looking forward to an accurate answer and explaination.

Duchy, Duchy, Duchy.
Didn't your momma teach you it is rude to answer a question with a question?

Since you completely ignored my question why in the world
Would I attempt to convert your convoluted verbal diarrhea to a coherent question?
And then I have to do the math.  Sorry bud, I see the trap you set.
Ignoring my question allowed me an easy out.

TTFN

Quote from: ER22 on January 04, 2018, 04:22:32 PM

Ha ha ha!
Oh my goodness!

What would happen if I was standing on an open trailer.
Truck was pulling it along at 30 MPH and I jumped straight up.

Would I end up laying on the road, all busted up
Or would I land back on the trailer.

Like I said, you're always good for a laugh.

A baseball player is throwing a ball during a game near the equator and reaches a speed of 100 km per hour.
Let's say the distance the ball travels is 50 meters from A (South) to B (North).
The ball is thrown at a speed of 100.000 meters per 3600 seconds.
The distance of 50 meters at that speed is completed in an avarage 1.8 seconds.

The rotational speed of the earth at that latitude is 1500.000 meters per 3600 seconds.

If it's near the equator it's a bit over 1670 km/hr, but who cares? It makes no difference.

In 1.8 seconds the earth has moved under the speeding ball (for you to figure out how much)

Near enough to 0, relative to the ball!

Does the baseball reach it's prefered target ?

I don't know, he might be a crappy pitcher. Next question?

So, dutchy doesn't understand the rotating Globe and that's supposed to be evidence that the earth is flat.
Well done!  That seems to make as much sense as Eric Dubay's "proofs"and jeranism's videos.

PS How fast would a Foucault pendulum rotate at the equator?
      How much Coriolis effect is there at at the equator?
      Before leaving the pitcher's hand the ball has the same 1500 km/hr (or whatever) west to east velocity as the earth and the pitcher.

Hey Mr Wonderful since we are talking about the Earth's rotation. Please  tell me why Coriolis effect only works on bullets and toilets and not airplanes.

Hey Mr Wonderful since we are talking about the Earth's rotation. Please  tell me why Coriolis effect only works on bullets and toilets and not airplanes.

Try again! The Coriolis effect has no discernable effect on toilets, so flush that stupid idea.

Have you ever seen a couple of people in uniforms go into a little room at the front of the 'plane (the pointy end)?
Well that's the driver and assistant, though people in the know call them both pilots, with the boss being the Captain and the other is other the First Officer.

These two have thingos a bit like steering wheels, though they call them yokes, that rotate and move back and forth.
Now the pilot flying the aircraft steers the plane to keep it on course irrespective of any crosswinds and other disturbances.

Oh, I forgot to mention Coriolis! No matter, it's so trivial compared to these crosswinds and other disturbances that we can forget it.

But, very long range bullets are a different matter. I have never yet seen a pilot on a bullet steering it and for high velocity rounds cross winds have some effect,  but nowhere near as much on a much slower moving aircraft.
The Coriolis is no more than the projectile moving north or south with the earth's surface velocity at the firing point imposed on it.
WhIle it moves north or south the projectile retains its original E-W velocity,  but the earth's W->E surface velocity changes, altering the trajectory relative to the earth slightly.

In any case, the Coriolis effect is very minor out to a couple of thousand yards, being no more than say 4" at 1000 yds.
It only becomes significant in long range artillery and these days the targeting computer sorts out the details.

Don't let it bother you though.
It isn't the cause of your irregular trajectory, that's from sneaking a drink when the grownups weren't looking.

But really, kiddies like you should leave the drinks and the guns to the adults. You can learn all about both when you grow up.

If you do want to read about it from a completely unbiased source, read this,  Long Range Shooting: External Ballistics – The Coriolis Effect

"Southern Hemisphlat"


This place is comedy gold!

I wish you beautiful sunrives, sunleaves n Midnight Clouds

Quote from: Here to laugh at you on January 04, 2018, 03:02:55 AM

"Southern Hemisphlat"


This place is comedy gold!

Yes , it's so true my friend !
Many believe we are spinning, speeding and rotating all day long in several directions, but claim it's perfectly normal to never experience any of it.
And some magic science that no one has ever confirmed in the real world explains all of it .

It's like Ernie from Sesamestreet who buys an invisible icecream...... only to buy with invisible money to deceive the deceiver.
I guess people really like their invisible icecreams......
Indeed this place is golden !!

The future of economic system is indeed related to invicible money based transactions.

Quote from: Danang on January 04, 2018, 01:31:42 AM

I wish there was independent surveyors to give real data. I was sometimes doubtful when working out with my fragrant Phew FE map by quoting their data

Los Angeles - Beijing is around 1.25 of FE radius.

You can be your own independent surveyor, if you want.
It is easy to do it, if you have access to theodolite or sextant.
But, seeing how you twist Pi and other values, it won't help you.
You wouldn't be honest to yourself.

There are simple descriptions on the internet how to use sextant or theodolite.
Mark spot somewhere on the ground, and mark another spot 1852 meters away.
Now, using some geodesic or navigational instrument measure angle between two verticals, one at first spot, another at the second spot.
You will see that two verticals have angle of one arcminute between them.
Why the angle isn't zero?
Because the two verticals intersect in Earth's center.

1852 meters is one Nautical Mile, which is defined as length of one arcminute on sea level.
It is defined like that to make calculations in sea navigation easier.

That's preconception.
Why is the land "curved"? It has to do with a body below the sun n moon and under the ground. Both follow the sun's n moon's journey on their paths.

It is just a local curve with changing conditions all the time. Nothing's related to the assumed "spherical earth".

Thanks for the info, anyway. It should be the governments' task to provide the right data for earth map.

Quote from: Macarios on January 04, 2018, 02:39:09 AM

Quote from: Danang on January 04, 2018, 01:31:42 AM

I wish there was independent surveyors to give real data. I was sometimes doubtful when working out with my fragrant Phew FE map by quoting their data

Los Angeles - Beijing is around 1.25 of FE radius.

You can be your own independent surveyor, if you want.
It is easy to do it, if you have access to theodolite or sextant.
But, seeing how you twist Pi and other values, it won't help you.
You wouldn't be honest to yourself.

There are simple descriptions on the internet how to use sextant or theodolite.
Mark spot somewhere on the ground, and mark another spot 1852 meters away.
Now, using some geodesic or navigational instrument measure angle between two verticals, one at first spot, another at the second spot.
You will see that two verticals have angle of one arcminute between them.
Why the angle isn't zero?
Because the two verticals intersect in Earth's center.

1852 meters is one Nautical Mile, which is defined as length of one arcminute on sea level.
It is defined like that to make calculations in sea navigation easier.

That's preconception.
Why is the land "curved"? It has to do with a body below the sun n moon and under the ground. Both follow the sun's n moon's journey on their paths.

It is just a local curve with changing conditions all the time. Nothing's related to the assumed "spherical earth".

Thanks for the info, anyway. It should be the governments' task to provide the right data for earth map.

Preconception?
They measured sphericity and defined NAUTICAL mile as the consequence.

And if the Earth was flat, how could SEA have "local curve"?
What do you think why is it called NAUTICAL mile?

EDIT: For now I have just one more question for you:
HOW can angle between two verticals be in any way changed by any shape of the ground between them?

Quote from: dutchy on January 04, 2018, 05:06:11 PM

Quote from: ER22 on January 04, 2018, 04:22:32 PM

Ha ha ha!
Oh my goodness!

What would happen if I was standing on an open trailer.
Truck was pulling it along at 30 MPH and I jumped straight up.

Would I end up laying on the road, all busted up
Or would I land back on the trailer.

Like I said, you're always good for a laugh.

A baseball player is throwing a ball during a game near the equator and reaches a speed of 100 km per hour.
Let's say the distance the ball travels is 50 meters from A (South) to B (North).
The ball is thrown at a speed of 100.000 meters per 3600 seconds.
The distance of 50 meters at that speed is completed in an avarage 1.8 seconds.

The rotational speed of the earth at that latitude is 1500.000 meters per 3600 seconds.
In 1.8 seconds the earth has moved under the speeding ball (for you to figure out how much)
Does the baseball reach it's prefered target ?

Or is a pendulum swung indepenently from earth's rotation while being attached to earth and a baseball follows the rotation in a magic fashion while being thrown ?

It is late in the Netherlands....so my latenight calculations could be wrong.....but you get the idea.....
Looking forward to an accurate answer and explaination.

Do the same thing on a turntable.

Not sure whether you mean pitch on a turntable or
Put a turntable ion a trailer and jump up.