Distances between cities

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Distances between cities
« on: December 28, 2017, 09:52:50 PM »
We'll use this topic a source in this working. : https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=73165.0

Important: Only the following values ​​will be used as speed.

A306    722kmh
A318    627 kmh
A319    627 kmh
A320    627 kmh
A321    627 kmh
A330    687 kmh
A332   687 kmh
A333   687 kmh
A343    759 kmh
A346    759 kmh
A359    810 kmh
A388    815 kmh

B712    574 kmh
B733    574 kmh
B734    574 kmh
B735    574 kmh
B737    615 kmh
B738    677 kmh
B739    677 kmh
B744    807 kmh
B748    811 kmh
B752    707 kmh
B763    707 kmh
B764    757 kmh
B772    757 kmh
B773    789 kmh
B77L    811 kmh
B77W    789 kmh
B788/B789    811 kmh

Calculations between these cities are wellcome:

Sydney (YSSY)
Johannesburg Or Tambo (FAOR)
Chile Santiago (SCEL)
New York  (ZNY)
Beijing (ZBAA)
London (LHR)
Doha (OTHH)

Sydney (YSSY) Johannesburg Or Tambo (FAOR) 10.292 kms
Sydney (YSSY) Chile Santiago (SCEL) 10.704 kms
Sydney (YSSY) New York  (ZNY) : N/A
Sydney (YSSY) Beijing (ZBAA) :7974 kms
Sydney (YSSY) London (LHR): N/A
Sydney (YSSY) Doha (OTHH) 12.001 kms

Johannesburg Or Tambo (FAOR) Chile Santiago (SCEL) N/A
Johannesburg Or Tambo (FAOR) New York  (ZNY) 11.628 kms
Johannesburg Or Tambo (FAOR) Beijing (ZBAA) 10.931 kms
Johannesburg Or Tambo (FAOR) London (LHR) 8.574 kms
Johannesburg Or Tambo (FAOR) Doha (OTHH) 7.058 kms

Chile Santiago (SCEL) New York  (ZNY) 8313 kms
Chile Santiago (SCEL) Beijing (ZBAA) : N/A
Chile Santiago (SCEL) London (LHR): 11.627 kms.
Chile Santiago (SCEL) Doha (OTHH) : N/A

New York  (ZNY) Beijing (ZBAA) 10.472 kms
New York  (ZNY) London (LHR) 5.705 kms
New York  (ZNY) Doha (OTHH) 10.322 kms


Beijing (ZBAA) London (LHR) 7.944kms
Beijing (ZBAA) Doha (OTHH) 6.708 kms

London (LHR) Doha (OTHH) 5.681 kms

Colors on calculated values:
If there is at least 3 flights between source cities with different aircrafts, the calculated value will be marked as authoritative and colored as "green".
If there is at least 2 flights between source cities with different aircrafts, the calculated value will be marked as reliable and colored as "orange".
If there is only 1 flight between these source with one aircraft, the calculated value will be marked as suspicious and colored as "red".

selected cities will be changed to others. Because most of selected cities are not popular and most part of distances are marked as red. There is only 4 greens (most reliable) routes in 21.

REPORT:

Total selected number of routes: 21

Number of Most reliable distances (green): 4
Number of Reliable distances (orange): 4
Number of suspicious distances (red): 8
Not Applicable distances (N/A) : 5

Result:

 Insufficient reliable data. the task was canceled. alternative methods will be tried.

Alternative 1:

Starting with central cities. We will select most crowded airports and try to arrive most number of "greens".

China is suspicious.

Russia is suspicious.

India and Indonesia is suspicious.

So what is left?

We may start flights inside USA, Canada, Europe, Africa and Australia. It's important to be close in terms of the merge method. for this reason it should start from flights inside Europe, inside USA and between europe to the USA.

Selected cities for round 2.

They selected by most crowded ones except China, Russia, and such as countries.

Number of Place/ City name/ (rank in world most crowded airports)

1- Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta (1)
2- Dubai (3) Doha (Qatar airlines goes almost everywhere)
3- Los Angeles (4)
4- Chicago (6)
5- London (7)
6- Paris (10)
7- Dallas Fort Worth (11)
8- Amsterdam (12)
9- Frankfurt (13)
10- Istanbul (14)
11- New York (16)
12- Denver (18)

List is taken from here: http://www.businessinsider.com/20-busiest-airports-in-the-world-2017-5/#no-20-bangkok-suvarnabhumi-airport-bkk-55892428-passengers-in-2016-1

Los Angeles - Atlanta: 3.073kms. +-7%
Los Angeles - Chicago : 2.769kms. +-3%
Atlanta - Chicago: 1.221 kms. +-8%

Dallas- Los Angeles: 2.168kms. +-12%
Dallas- Atlanta: 1369 kms. +-7%
Dallas -  Chicago: 1.583kms. +-8%

New York- Los Angeles : 3992 kms +-5%
New York - Atlanta : 1.491kms +-5%
New York - Chicago 1.430 kms. +-8%
New York -  Dallas 2275 kms. +-5%

Denver - New-York 2570 kms +-4%
Denver - Los Angeles  1.584 kms +-9%
Denver - Atlanta 1.989kms +-6%
Denver - Chicago 1.641kms +-5% (google out)
Denver -  Dallas 1.268kms +-3% (google falls)
« Last Edit: January 04, 2018, 05:04:28 PM by brotherhood of the dome »


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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2017, 10:09:58 PM »

Example:

An example of calculating a distance from two airports:

Example airports:

Sydney to Beijing:

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/findflight?origin=YSSY&destination=ZBAA

Opposite:

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/findflight?origin=ZBAA&destination=YSSY

We need to see same types in two links:

There is 3 types of aircraft in this route:

A333, A332 and B77W.

A332:

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA107/history/20171228/0243Z/YSSY/ZBAA

11:06
11:46
11:55
11:29
11:44

Average: 11:36

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA108/history/20171228/1545Z/ZBAA/YSSY

11:05
11:41
11:12
11:22
11:53
11:10
11:02

Average: 11:20

Average of times: 11:28

Average distance: 11:28x687kmh = 7878kms.

For this aircraft, average mistake is much.

A333

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA107/history/20171229/0235Z/YSSY/ZBAA

10:58
11:29
11:53
11:27
11:39

Average: 11:29

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA108/history/20171227/1605Z/ZBAA/YSSY

11:41
11:01
10:51
11:35
11:05

Average: 11:14

Average of times: 11:21

Average distance: 11:21 x 687kmh= 7786 kms

B77W:

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA174/history/20171229/0940Z/YSSY/ZBAA

10:15
10:34
11:00
10:54
10:28
11:21
10:35
10:49
10:39
10:21
10:18
10:36
10:52

Average: 10:40

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA173/history/20171228/1745Z/ZBAA/YSSY

10:45
10:30
10:21
10:19
10:39
10:12
10:19
10:35
10:24
10:24
10:38
10:17
11:06
10:29

Average: 10:29

Average of times: 10:35

Average distance: 10:35x 789kmh= 8350 kms.

Our calculations:

7878 kms.
7786 kms.
8350 kms.

CALCULATED REAL DISTANCE: 7974kms.

Average mistakes on aircrafts:

Mistake of A332: 7878 / 7974-% = 1%
Mistake of A333: 7786 / 7974 -%= 2%
Mistake of B77W: 8350 / 7974-%= 5%


Google claims: 8975kms.

Google map mistakes: 8975/ 7974-%= 13%

I hope now everyone understand how our system is working good and how is round map is nothing but a bullshit!


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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2017, 10:19:30 PM »
YSSY DOH

A388 : Real Speed:  811 kmh.
https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR909/history/20171229/1045Z/YSSY/OTHH
Times:
15:00
15:05
15:53
15:02
15:35
15:04
15:08
15:03
15:03
15:11
15:06
15:01
15:00
15:14

Average : 15:10

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR908/history/20171228/1715Z/OTHH/YSSY

14:12
14:05
14:31
14:25
14:11
14:22
14:41
14:43
14:54
14:17
14:38
14:17
14:14

Average time: 14:25

Average of times: 14:47

Distance: 811 kmh x 14:47 = 12.001 kms.

No other flights. So

Distance between Sydney to Doha = 12.001kms (suspicious)

Google claims: 12.390 kms.

Mistake of google distance: 3%


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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2017, 10:21:48 PM »
As you see that, I'm not directly draw the map. because in this case it is claimed that I set maps and values. here you see, I calculate the values ​​first, then I will transfer them to the map.


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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2017, 10:27:00 PM »
YSSY TO FAOR

B744 807 kmh.

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA63/history/20171230/0035Z/YSSY/FAOR

14:16
14:03
13:41
13:54
14:08
13:55
13:49
14:05
13:26
13:01
14:02
13:40
13:56

Average: 13:50

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA64/history/20171229/1650Z/FAOR/YSSY

11:21
11:35
11:52
12:41
11:55
11:32
11:53
11:19
11:37
11:31
11:26
11:17

Average: 11:39

Average of times: 12:45

Distance from Sydney to Johannesburg is: 12:45x807= 10.292kms

Google claims: 11.036 kms. Mistake of google: 7%


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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2017, 10:49:18 PM »
YSSY TO SCEL

B744 Real Speed: 807 kmh

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA27/history/20171230/0150Z/YSSY/SCEL

Times:

12:24
12:07
11:58
12:16
11:50
12:33
11:14

Average time: 12:03

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA28/history/20171229/1635Z/SCEL/YSSY
Times:
13:44
14:38
13:56
14:47
14:23
14:29
15:21
13:55
14:26
15:07

Average time: 14:28

Average of times: 13:15

Distance: 807kmsx13:15= 10.704 kms

Distance between Sydney and Santiago = 10.704 kms

Google claims: 11.353 kms. Mistake of google: 6%


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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2017, 10:56:57 PM »
There is no flights between Johannesburg and Santiago. But the distance is just 9.000 kms according to google. How, how how interesting! So you want to convince me that they are close like this?



Do you aware of the shape of the earth now?



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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2017, 11:02:12 PM »
Johannesburg Or Tambo (FAOR) New York  (ZNY)

A346 Corrected speed: 759 kmh.

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/SAA203/history/20171229/1935Z/FAOR/KJFK
Times:
16:03
15:46
15:56
15:52
16:05
15:46
15:53
16:29
16:55
16:22
16:17
16:33

Average: 16:09

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/SAA204/history/20171229/1540Z/KJFK/FAOR
Times:
14:42
14:31
15:04
14:48
14:39
14:25
14:06
14:13
14:13
14:17
14:17

Average: 14:28

Average of times: 15:19

Distance between Johannesburg to New York: 759x15:19= 11.628kms

Google claims: 12.845 kms. Mistake of google: 10%


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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2017, 11:07:21 PM »
Johannesburg to Beijing

B773 corrected speed: 789 kmh.

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA868/history/20171229/0710Z/FAOR/ZBAA

13:06
13:32
12:59
13:40
13:09
13:54

Average time: 13:23

Opposite:

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA867/history/20171228/1400Z/ZBAA/FAOR

Times:
14:46
14:33
14:05
14:22
13:51
14:18

Average time: 14:19

Average of times: 13:51

Average distance between Johannesburg to Beijing: 789kmhx13:51=  10.931 kms.

Google claims: 11.721 kms. Google's mistake= 7%


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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2017, 11:22:07 PM »
Johannesburg to London

A388 corrected speed: 815 kmh.

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW54/history/20171229/1950Z/FAOR/EGLL

Times:

11:23
11:11
10:57
11:20
11:01
11:22
11:06
11:27
11:42
11:04
10:54

Average: 11:13

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW57/history/20171229/2110Z/EGLL/FAOR
Times:
10:40
10:50
10:54
11:03
11:02
10:51
11:14
11:10
11:05
10:49
11:07

Average time:10:58

Average of times: 11:06
Distance: 815x11:06= 9.047 kms.

B789 corrected speed: 811 kmh.

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/VIR602/history/20171229/1910Z/FAOR/EGLL
Times: 11:30
11:40
11:20
11:20
11:31
11:10
11:23
11:06
10:51
11:01
10:38
11:16
11:02
11:06

Average time: 11:12

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/VIR601/history/20171229/1855Z/EGLL/FAOR
times:
10:53
10:40
10:27
10:51
10:48
10:48
10:37
11:11
11:01
10:55
11:08
10:51
11:00
10:48

Average time: 10:51
Average of time: 11:01
Distance:  11:01x811kms= 8.946kms

A332 speed: 687kmh

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/SAA234/history/20171229/1900Z/FAOR/EGLL
times:
11:23
11:10
11:30
11:24
11:42
11:13
11:19
11:04
11:35
11:37
11:30

Average time: 11:24

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/SAA235/history/20171229/1805Z/EGLL/FAOR
Times:
10:33
10:40
11:14
11:15
11:13
10:56
11:10
11:20
11:02
11:08
11:35

Average time: 11:06
Average of times: 11:15
Distance: 7730kms.

Calculated Distances:

9.047 kms.
8.946 kms.
7.730 kms.

Average distance: 8.574 kms.

Average mistakes:
9.047/8.574-%= 5%
8.946/8.574-%= 4%
7.730/8.574-%= 11%

Google claims: 9086kms.

Google mistake: 6%

The color is orange because there is a much difference between our values. (highest 11%)
« Last Edit: December 28, 2017, 11:24:38 PM by brotherhood of the dome »


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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2017, 12:23:14 AM »
There is no flights between Johannesburg and Santiago.
But there is the direct flight, South African Airways SAA222/SA222 from JOHANNESBURG (JNB), SOUTH AFRICA to SAO PAULO, (GRU) BRAZIL.

See South African Airways, SAA222 / SA222

And there are plenty of direct flights between Santiago (SCL) and Sao Paulo (GRU)  for example LAN Airlines LAN702 / LA702.

See  LAN Airlines LAN702/LA702

There are probably plenty of other flights.

Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2017, 12:25:52 AM »
There is no flights between Johannesburg and Santiago. But the distance is just 9.000 kms according to google. How, how how interesting! So you want to convince me that they are close like this?

There could be any number of reasons for this, not least of which might be lack of customer demand for such a flight.  For your Africa-to-South-America calculations you might consider the daily nonstop on a Boeing 767-300 from Johannesburg to São Paulo and the daily return flight, both offered by TAM Airlines.  You could also include the daily Airbus A330-300 nonstop flights westbound and eastbound operated by South African Air.

São Paulo also connects to other locations on the African continent. 
(Ok, Dubai is on the Arabian Peninsula which is Asia not Africa, but it is still a good connection data point)
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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2017, 01:39:42 AM »
There is no flights between Johannesburg and Santiago. But the distance is just 9.000 kms according to google. How, how how interesting! So you want to convince me that they are close like this?



Do you aware of the shape of the earth now?

You do realise that you are an idiot! Flight times vary due to weather conditions and wind speeds.
https://www.expedia.co.uk/lp/flights/jnb/scl/johannesburg-to-santiago
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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2017, 03:11:29 AM »
There is no flights between Johannesburg and Santiago. But the distance is just 9.000 kms according to google. How, how how interesting! So you want to convince me that they are close like this?

There could be any number of reasons for this, not least of which might be lack of customer demand for such a flight.  For your Africa-to-South-America calculations you might consider the daily nonstop on a Boeing 767-300 from Johannesburg to São Paulo and the daily return flight, both offered by TAM Airlines.  You could also include the daily Airbus A330-300 nonstop flights westbound and eastbound operated by South African Air.

São Paulo also connects to other locations on the African continent. 
(Ok, Dubai is on the Arabian Peninsula which is Asia not Africa, but it is still a good connection data point)

Sao Paolo's handicap is it hasen't a flight to Australia. I was thinking to add it in second group of cities.


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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2017, 03:22:40 AM »
There is no flights between Johannesburg and Santiago. But the distance is just 9.000 kms according to google. How, how how interesting! So you want to convince me that they are close like this?



Do you aware of the shape of the earth now?

You do realise that you are an idiot! Flight times vary due to weather conditions and wind speeds.
https://www.expedia.co.uk/lp/flights/jnb/scl/johannesburg-to-santiago

I can't realize I'm an idiot but you are. All of flights shown in the chart have "1 stop" or "2 stops". So you are an idiot, but not I am so.

If you continue to talk like this, I'll add you to my "list of idiots".

You could give this knowledge with another way of expression.

I'm writing it as clearly understandable type again , because there is idiots like you only can understand with this:

"There is no direct flights between Johannesburg to Santiago, today, past or next".


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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2017, 03:29:59 AM »
Sao Paolo's handicap is it hasen't a flight to Australia. I was thinking to add it in second group of cities.
But it has direct flights to Santiago, which does have direct links to Sydney.

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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2017, 03:49:02 AM »
Johannesburg to Doha

B788 speed: 811kmh

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR1360/history/20171229/1730Z/FAOR/OTHH
Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR1359/history/20171229/0530Z/OTHH/FAOR

Times:

08:50
08:29
08:48
08:53
08:33
08:36

Average:08:41

Opposite:
08:55
09:25
09:24
09:06
09:11

Average: 9:12

Average of times: 08:56

Distance: 08:56x811kms= 7.256kms.

B77W Speed: 789kmh

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR1364/history/20171230/1110Z/FAOR/OTHH

08:45
08:40
08:42
08:27
08:26
08:13
08:39
08:50
08:40
08:41
08:31
08:36
08:35
08:40

Average time: 08:36

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR1363/history/20171229/2320Z/OTHH/FAOR

08:43
08:51
08:40
08:55
08:46
08:45
08:44
08:40
08:23
08:51
08:57
09:06
08:43
08:58

Average time: 08:47

Average of times: 08:41

Distance: 789kmsx08:41= 6.860kms.


Calculated distances:
7.256kms
6.860 kms.

Distance from Johannesburg to Doha is: (7.256+6.860)/2 = 7.058kmh.

Average mistakes:

7.256/7.058-%= 3%
6.860/7.058-%= 3%

Google claims: 6.251 kms
Google's average bullshit: 6.251/7.058-%= 11%


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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2017, 03:57:40 AM »
Santiago - New York

B 789 Exact speed: 811 kmh. (without lies)

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/LAN533/history/20171228/2359Z/KJFK/SCEL

Times:

10:33
10:55
10:15
10:19
10:21
10:04
09:51
10:07
10:10
10:19
10:12
09:59
11:55

Average: 10:23

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/LAN532/history/20171229/0230Z/SCEL/KJFK

10:15
10:11
09:56
09:50
10:00
10:04
10:12
09:58
10:18
10:42
10:11
10:04
09:49

Average: 10:06

Average of times: 10:15

Distance: 811x10:15= 8.313kms

Google claims: 8.247kms

Google is making a mistake as: 8.247/8.313= 1% . Oh, this time google declared the truth. Unbelievable. Someones will punish to google for that!


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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2017, 04:03:53 AM »
Santiago - London

B789 Real speed is: 811 kms.

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW250/history/20171229/2030Z/SCEL/EGLL
Times:
13:49
14:19
14:12
14:03
14:15
14:13
14:27
13:34

Average time: 14:06

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW251/history/20171225/2200Z/EGLL/SCEL
Times:
14:22
14:32
14:40
14:20
14:51
14:52
14:21

Average time: 14:34
Average of times: 14:20

Distance: 811kmhx14:20= 11.627kms.

Google claims: 11.668kms. Google's mistake: 1%


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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2017, 04:32:27 AM »
New York to Beijing Dying king to new king!  :)

B77W Exact Speed: 789 kmh.

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA990/history/20171230/0730Z/KJFK/ZBAA

Times:
13:38
13:18
13:26
13:54
13:25
13:33
13:01
13:35
13:19

Average time: 13:27

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA989/history/20171229/1525Z/ZBAA/KJFK

Times:
13:13
12:54
12:31
12:59
13:02
13:00
12:50

Average time: 12:55
Average of times: 13:11

Distance: 789kmhx13:11= 10.410 kms

B772 True speed: 757 kmh.

Link:
https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL89/history/20171229/1700Z/KEWR/ZBAA
Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL88/history/20171229/0900Z/ZBAA/KEWR

Times:
14:05
13:25
13:41
13:34
13:50
14:00
13:30
13:42
13:45
13:45
13:44
13:37
13:42
13:43

Average: 13:43

Opposite:
14:31
13:15
13:10
13:23
13:25
14:00
13:55
13:47
13:58
13:13
13:02
13:08
13:27

Average: 13:33

Average of times: 13:38
Distance: 13:38x757= 10.323kms.

B773 Speed: 789 kmh

Beijing to NY:
Links:
https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA989/history/20171225/1525Z/ZBAA/KJFK
https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA981/history/20171228/0500Z/ZBAA/KJFK
https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA819/history/20171230/0335Z/ZBAA/KEWR
Times:
13:31
13:19
13:42
13:50
13:26
12:50

Average: 13:26

Opposite (New York to Beijing)
https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA820/history/20171226/1855Z/KEWR/ZBAA
https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA990/history/20171230/0730Z/KJFK/ZBAA
https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA819/history/20171230/0335Z/ZBAA/KEWR
Times:
13:34
13:43
13:26
13:50

Average: 13:38

Average of times: 13:32
Distance: 789x13:32=10.682 kms.

Distance from New York to Beijing = (10.410kms+ 10.323kms+10.682kms)/3= 10.472 kms.

Google claims: 10.992 kms.

Average mistakes:

Our 1st: 10.410/10.472-%= 1%
our 2nd: 10.323/10.472-%= 1%
our 3rd: 10.682/10.472-%= 2%
Google: 10.992/10.472-%= 5%


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rabinoz

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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2017, 04:33:10 AM »
Santiago - London

Distance: 811kmhx14:20= 11.627kms.

Google claims: 11.668kms. Google's mistake: 1%
And why is it Google's mistake and not just a little error in your estimates?

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wise

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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2017, 04:48:02 AM »
London to New York

A346 Speed: 759 kmh.

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/VIR10/history/20171230/0230Z/KJFK/EGLL
Times:
07:14
07:19
06:54
06:02
06:23
06:52
07:17
07:22
06:40
06:50
06:37
07:05
06:45
07:31

Average: 6:55

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/VIR25/history/20171229/2005Z/EGLL/KJFK
Times:
07:52
08:11
08:14
08:07
08:19
07:55
07:55
07:52
08:04
07:41
07:54
08:05
08:12

Average time: 8:41
Average of times: 7:28
Distance: 759kmhx7:28= 5.672kms.

B772 Speed: 757 kmh.

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW182/history/20171230/0415Z/KJFK/EGLL
06:38
06:19
06:16
06:42
06:42
06:47
06:53
06:58
06:20
Average: 06:37

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL141/history/20171229/1925Z/EGLL/KJFK
Times:
07:58
08:06
08:27
07:48
08:14
08:03
07:55
08:34
07:41
07:44
07:50
07:54

Average time: 08:01
Average of times: 07:19
Distance: 757kmhx07:19= 5.541 kms.

B744 Speed: 807kmh

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW114/history/20171230/0245Z/KJFK/EGLL
Times:
06:12
06:25
06:14
06:31
06:57
06:45
06:34
06:47
06:50
06:50

Average time: 6:36

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW113/history/20171229/1625Z/EGLL/KJFK
Times:
07:38
07:47
08:02
08:03
07:52
07:55
07:51
08:09
07:59
08:10
08:47

Average time: 08:01
Average of times: 07:18
Distance: 807x07:18=5.902kms.

Distance from London To New York= (5902+5672+5541)/3= 5.705 kms.

Average mistakes:

Our 1st: 5902 /5705-%= 3%
Our 2d: 5672 /5705-%= 1%
Our 3rd: 5541 /5705-%= 3%
Google: 5545 /5705 = 3%


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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2017, 05:00:27 AM »
New York to Doha

B77W Speed: 789 kmh

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR702/history/20171230/0205Z/KJFK/OTHH
Times:
11:19
11:23
11:27
11:20
11:29
11:21
11:18
11:24
11:38
11:35
12:02
12:22
11:17

Average time: 11:31

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR701/history/20171229/0500Z/OTHH/KJFK
Times:
13:41
13:58
13:57
15:01
14:53
15:09
14:42
14:10
14:09
14:07
14:21
14:07
13:57

Average time: 14:19
Average of times: 12:55
Distance: 789kmhx12:55= 10.200kms.

A359 Speed: 810 kmh

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR704/history/20171229/1445Z/KJFK/OTHH
Times:
11:11
11:08
11:15
11:22
11:23
11:25
11:19
11:38
11:32
11:24
12:08
11:46
11:30
11:54

Average time: 11:29

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR703/history/20171228/2240Z/OTHH/KJFK
Times:
13:35
13:43
13:55
14:44
14:39
14:50
14:55
14:27
14:07
14:10
14:25
14:28
13:56
14:12

Average time: 14:17
Average of times: 12:53
Distance: 810kmhx12:53 =10.444 kms.

Distance from New York to Doha = (10.200+10.444)/2= 10.322 kms

Average mistakes:
Our 1st: 10.200/10.322-%= 1%
Our 2nd: 10.444/10.322-%= 1%
Google: 10.782/10.322-%= 4%


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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2017, 05:15:26 AM »
Beijing to London

A333/330 Speed: 687 kmh
https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA855/history/20171230/0630Z/ZBAA/EGLL
Times:
11:32
11:38
11:46
11:57
11:23
11:14
11:09
10:57
10:40
10:36
10:59
11:18
11:15

Average: 11:15

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA856/history/20171229/2025Z/EGLL/ZBAA
Times:
10:07
09:50
10:10
10:20
09:38
09:31
09:43
09:33
09:43
10:15
09:48
09:40
09:43
10:13

Average time: 09:52
Average of times: 10:14
Distance: 687kmhx10:14= 7260kms

B773 Speed: 789kmh.

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA937/history/20171230/0430Z/ZBAA/EGLL
Times:
10:53
10:57
11:15
10:42
10:56
10:39
10:26
10:39
10:18
10:23
10:36
10:31
10:55

Average time:10:42

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA938/history/20171229/1740Z/EGLL/ZBAA
Times:
09:34
09:31
09:18
09:15
09:06
09:09
09:25
09:15
09:21
09:40
09:19
09:25
09:17
09:39

Average time:9:22
Average of times:10:02
Distance: 10:02x789=7921kms

B789 Speed: 811kmh

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW38/history/20171229/0410Z/ZBAA/EGLL

Times:
11:34
11:04
11:36
11:32
10:45
11:21
11:47

Average time:11:22

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW39/history/20171228/1620Z/EGLL/ZBAA
Times:
10:10
09:42
09:57
09:48
10:31
09:50
09:55
09:47

Average time: 9:57
Average of times: 10:40
Distance: 10:40x811kmh= 8652kms.

Distance from London to Beijing: (7260+7921+8652)/3= 7.944 kms

Average mistakes:

Our 1: 7260/7944-%= 9%
Our 2: 7921/7944-%= 0%
Our 3: 8652/7944-%= 9%
Goog: 8162/7944-%= 3%

Orange caused by error limits.


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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2017, 05:20:44 AM »
Beijing to Doha:

B77W Speed: 789kmh

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR895/history/20171229/1725Z/ZBAA/OTHH
Times:
09:04
09:01
09:19
09:34
09:23
08:58
09:14
09:01
08:49
08:48
08:51
08:53
09:12
08:59

Average time: 09:04

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR892/history/20171228/2300Z/OTHH/ZBAA
Times:
08:07
07:42
08:05
07:52
07:51
07:47
08:03
07:57

Average time: 7:55
Average of times: 8:30
Distance from Beijing to Doha=8:30x789kmh= 6.708kms.
Google's mistake: 6.169/6708-%=9%


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EvolvedMantisShrimp

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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2017, 05:23:48 AM »
What are we supposed to be debating?
Nullius in Verba

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wise

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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2017, 05:35:20 AM »
London - Doha

B77W Speed: 789kmh

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR16/history/20171229/2155Z/EGLL/OTHH
Times:
06:31
06:50
06:44
06:36
06:34
06:21
06:29
06:24
06:24
06:27
06:33
06:28
06:38
06:17

Average time: 06:31

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR15/history/20171229/1255Z/OTHH/EGLL
Times:
07:18
07:19
07:16
07:21
07:35
07:46
08:01
07:58
07:53
07:49
07:36
07:43
07:05
07:35

Average time: 07:35
Distance: 789x07:35= 5.566kms

A388 Speed: 815 kmh

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR4/history/20171229/1415Z/EGLL/OTHH
Times:
06:40
06:53
06:47
06:53
06:50
06:37
06:27
06:34
06:41
06:29
06:52
06:49
06:36
06:41

Average time: 6:42

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR3/history/20171229/0500Z/OTHH/EGLL
Times:
07:44
07:40
07:56
07:25
07:49
07:46
07:46
08:17
08:08
07:37
07:42
07:30
07:45
07:41

Average times: 7:46
Average of times: 7:14
Distance: 815x7:14= 5897kms

A359 Speed: 810kms

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR6/history/20171229/0800Z/EGLL/OTHH
Times:
06:24
06:28
06:25
06:32
06:33
06:26
06:14
06:25
06:27
06:32
06:21

Average time: 06:26

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR5/history/20171229/1425Z/OTHH/EGLL
Times:
07:03
07:06
07:11
07:15
07:33
07:26
07:44
07:44
07:19
07:11
07:14

Average time:7:20
Distance: 810x7:20= 5580kms

Distance between London and Doha= (5566+5897+5580)/3= 5.681kms

Average mistakes:

Our 1:5566/5681-%=2%
Our2: 5897/5681-%=4%
Our3: 5580/5681-%=2%
Google:5247/5681-%=8%


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9111315

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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2017, 07:50:56 AM »


Non stop South America to Africa.

JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA to SAO PAULO, BRAZIL vai South African Airways 222

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9111315

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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2017, 07:56:50 AM »
Air New Zealand 30
AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND to EZEIZA, ARGENTINA
11h 33m total flight time
6420 Miles


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9111315

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Re: Distances between cities
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2017, 08:04:31 AM »
LAN Airlines 804
MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA to SANTIAGO, CHILE
12h 12m total flight time
7,092 Miles.

Boeing 787-9 (twin-jet) (B789)