Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?

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Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2017, 09:05:47 AM »
How do you make a ballon geostationary?

I'm not sure what a ballon is, but you can make a balloon geostationary in FE with solar panels and small fans. It doesn't have to travel at unreasonable speeds like in RET.
No but it has to stay exceptionally still under all conditions.  And it has to be extremely high.  Also, who build and launches these things.  How big do think this conspiracy is?

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Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2017, 09:06:46 AM »
And it has to be extremely high.

Um, no.

Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2017, 09:12:55 AM »
And it has to be extremely high.

Um, no.
Um yeah.  Check out how dishes are pointed.  Any word on the size of that conspiracy?
« Last Edit: December 22, 2017, 09:15:52 AM by Badxtoss »

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Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2017, 09:16:15 AM »
And it has to be extremely high.

Um, no.
Um yeah.  Check out how discs are pointed.

You're still assuming a round earth. On a flat earth the altitude is much lower.

Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2017, 09:18:20 AM »
And it has to be extremely high.

Um, no.
Um yeah.  Check out how discs are pointed.

You're still assuming a round earth. On a flat earth the altitude is much lower.
Actually it doesn't work at all on a flat earth.  Dishes would be pointing all over the place.
Still silent about the conspiracy?

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narcberry

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Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2017, 09:18:55 AM »
And it has to be extremely high.

Um, no.
Um yeah.  Check out how discs are pointed.

You're still assuming a round earth. On a flat earth the altitude is much lower.
Actually it doesn't work at all on a flat earth.  Dishes would be pointing all over the place.
Still silent about the conspiracy?

I'm sorry I only debunk one incorrect claim at a time.

Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2017, 09:21:12 AM »
And it has to be extremely high.

Um, no.
Um yeah.  Check out how discs are pointed.

You're still assuming a round earth. On a flat earth the altitude is much lower.
Actually it doesn't work at all on a flat earth.  Dishes would be pointing all over the place.
Still silent about the conspiracy?

I'm sorry I only debunk one incorrect claim at a time.
When are you going to start doing that?  So far you have only made a completely unsupported claim.

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narcberry

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Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2017, 09:23:53 AM »
And it has to be extremely high.

Um, no.
Um yeah.  Check out how discs are pointed.

You're still assuming a round earth. On a flat earth the altitude is much lower.
Actually it doesn't work at all on a flat earth.  Dishes would be pointing all over the place.
Still silent about the conspiracy?

I'm sorry I only debunk one incorrect claim at a time.
When are you going to start doing that?  So far you have only made a completely unsupported claim.

Consider this your first warning - do not disrespect the moderators on these forums.

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Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2017, 11:03:22 AM »
And it has to be extremely high.

Um, no.
Um yeah.  Check out how discs are pointed.

You're still assuming a round earth. On a flat earth the altitude is much lower.
Actually it doesn't work at all on a flat earth.  Dishes would be pointing all over the place.
Still silent about the conspiracy?

I'm sorry I only debunk one incorrect claim at a time.
When are you going to start doing that?  So far you have only made a completely unsupported claim.

Consider this your first warning - do not disrespect the moderators on these forums.

Who the fuck are YOU??

Anyone who thinks balloons can provide all the services that satellites do, is completely fucking stupid.
I will always be Here To Laugh At You.

Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2017, 11:08:40 AM »
And it has to be extremely high.

Um, no.
Um yeah.  Check out how discs are pointed.

You're still assuming a round earth. On a flat earth the altitude is much lower.
Actually it doesn't work at all on a flat earth.  Dishes would be pointing all over the place.
Still silent about the conspiracy?

I'm sorry I only debunk one incorrect claim at a time.
When are you going to start doing that?  So far you have only made a completely unsupported claim.

Consider this your first warning - do not disrespect the moderators on these forums.
You a funny guy.  You are not, however a mod.
So I take it this is your way admitting defeat.

Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2017, 12:24:17 PM »
I'd challenge you to name 1 way they would differ.
A balloon hovers in a roughly static position, quite close to Earth.
A satellite in LEO orbits Earth every 90 minutes or so.

These satellites can be tracked and some can be observed, including their incredible speed.

And do you know what they are missing? Any kind of balloon, unless you are claiming they just shape the balloons to pretend to be the satellite.

Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2017, 12:26:47 PM »
You're still assuming a round earth. On a flat earth the altitude is much lower.
No, on a FE you get numerous different altitudes.

Consider this your first warning - do not disrespect the moderators on these forums.
Calling you out on your crap is not disrespecting you.
But you continually lying to everyone is disrespecting everyone.
YOU ARE NOT A MODERATOR.

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Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #42 on: December 23, 2017, 02:51:02 PM »
I'd challenge you to name 1 way they would differ.
A balloon hovers in a roughly static position, quite close to Earth.
A satellite in LEO orbits Earth every 90 minutes or so.

These satellites can be tracked and some can be observed, including their incredible speed.

And do you know what they are missing? Any kind of balloon, unless you are claiming they just shape the balloons to pretend to be the satellite.

The discussion was about something in the sky being geostationary.  Why do you have such a hard time staying on topic?

Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #43 on: December 23, 2017, 04:06:26 PM »
The discussion was about something in the sky being geostationary.  Why do you have such a hard time staying on topic?
No it wasn't. It was about satellites in general. Why do you have such a hard time being honest?

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Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #44 on: December 24, 2017, 03:32:19 AM »
Perhaps you don't understand how a discussion works?

How do you make a ballon geostationary?

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Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #45 on: December 24, 2017, 04:42:31 AM »
Perhaps you don't understand how a discussion works?

How do you make a ballon geostationary?

So, you freely admit that you have no idea why salt makes watermelon taste sweeter?
I will always be Here To Laugh At You.

Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #46 on: December 24, 2017, 11:59:14 AM »
Perhaps you don't understand how a discussion works?

How do you make a ballon geostationary?
No, I do, I see from your dishonest quoting you do as well, and are just being dishonest about it.

Here is that full quote which you quoted:

Russia was the first to successfully launch a satellite

Anyone can tie a radio transmitter to a balloon. Big whoop.
Which would then function completely differently to a satellite.

I'd challenge you to name 1 way they would differ.
How do you make a ballon geostationary?  And how do you send it high enough to cover, say, most of North America?

Notice how it was actually a response to me pointing out that they would differ?
Did you notice how instead of quoting the comment about making them geostationary, I quoted how the query as to how they would differ?
I was not limited to discussing geostationary satellites.
The topic was how do they differ.
Badxtoss chose to focus on geostationary ones.
I chose to focus on LEO ones.

So no, the topic was not geostationary satellites, it was how balloons and satellites differ.

Any more dishonesty you want to bring to the thread?

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Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #47 on: December 24, 2017, 04:32:23 PM »
Perhaps you don't understand how a discussion works?

How do you make a ballon geostationary?
Maybe you'd like to comment on the actual topic of this thread, "Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in 'debunking'?"
I guess you have no idea.

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Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #48 on: December 24, 2017, 06:20:19 PM »
Perhaps you don't understand how a discussion works?

How do you make a ballon geostationary?
Maybe you'd like to comment on the actual topic of this thread, "Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in 'debunking'?"
I guess you have no idea.

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narcberry

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Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #49 on: December 26, 2017, 07:25:34 AM »
And it has to be extremely high.

Um, no.
Um yeah.  Check out how discs are pointed.

You're still assuming a round earth. On a flat earth the altitude is much lower.
Actually it doesn't work at all on a flat earth.  Dishes would be pointing all over the place.
Still silent about the conspiracy?

I'm sorry I only debunk one incorrect claim at a time.
When are you going to start doing that?  So far you have only made a completely unsupported claim.

Consider this your first warning - do not disrespect the moderators on these forums.

Anyone who thinks balloons can provide all the services that satellites do, is completely fucking stupid.

This is probably the most absurd claim an RE'er has made today.

Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #50 on: December 26, 2017, 08:35:55 AM »
Ok narc, can you back up that statement?

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narcberry

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Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #51 on: December 26, 2017, 08:43:26 AM »
Ok narc, can you back up that statement?

I'd have to ask the site admin to be sure but the whole site is backed up regularly.

Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #52 on: December 26, 2017, 08:47:09 AM »
Ok narc, can you back up that statement?

I'd have to ask the site admin to be sure but the whole site is backed up regularly.
I'll take that as a no and put you in the troll catagory

Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #53 on: December 26, 2017, 12:19:49 PM »
This is probably the most absurd claim an RE'er has made today.
Nope.
It isn't absurd at all.
Perhaps you can try to address the massive differences between satellites and balloons?

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narcberry

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Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #54 on: December 26, 2017, 12:35:26 PM »
This is probably the most absurd claim an RE'er has made today.
Nope.
It isn't absurd at all.
Perhaps you can try to address the massive differences between satellites and balloons?

Such as... ?

Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #55 on: December 26, 2017, 12:50:13 PM »
Such as... ?
Such as those already raised in this thread, such as the rapid speed needed for those in LEO?

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Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #56 on: December 26, 2017, 12:52:13 PM »
This is probably the most absurd claim an RE'er has made today.
Nope.
It isn't absurd at all.
Perhaps you can try to address the massive differences between satellites and balloons?

Such as... ?
Geostationary satellites follow precisely predictable orbits at approximately 35,786 km above mean sea level.
Balloons follow unpredictable paths determined by the local wind at an altitude of no more than about 50.0 km.

Hence one geostationary satellite can broadcast to a whole continent the size of USA or Australia plus New Zealand.
But one balloon can cover only a limited region.

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narcberry

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Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #57 on: December 26, 2017, 12:55:09 PM »
This is probably the most absurd claim an RE'er has made today.
Nope.
It isn't absurd at all.
Perhaps you can try to address the massive differences between satellites and balloons?

Such as... ?
Geostationary satellites follow precisely predictable orbits at approximately 35,786 km above mean sea level.
Balloons follow unpredictable paths determined by the local wind at an altitude of no more than about 50.0 km.

Hence one geostationary satellite can broadcast to a whole continent the size of USA or Australia plus New Zealand.
But one balloon can cover only a limited region.

On a flat earth the radio signals from the balloon wouldn't be occluded as soon. Using atmosphere penetrating wavelengths - balloon origined signals can travel quite far.

Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #58 on: December 26, 2017, 01:08:52 PM »
This is probably the most absurd claim an RE'er has made today.
Nope.
It isn't absurd at all.
Perhaps you can try to address the massive differences between satellites and balloons?

Such as... ?
Geostationary satellites follow precisely predictable orbits at approximately 35,786 km above mean sea level.
Balloons follow unpredictable paths determined by the local wind at an altitude of no more than about 50.0 km.

Hence one geostationary satellite can broadcast to a whole continent the size of USA or Australia plus New Zealand.
But one balloon can cover only a limited region.

On a flat earth the radio signals from the balloon wouldn't be occluded as soon. Using atmosphere penetrating wavelengths - balloon origined signals can travel quite far.
But in the case of geostationary satellites like for TV that would mean dishes across the country would be pointed in vastly different directions.  That's not the case.
In the US ALL such dishes are pointed south at an angle to receive from a height far too great for a balloon.

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narcberry

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Re: Why is NASA the only space agency FE are focused in "debunking"?
« Reply #59 on: December 26, 2017, 01:10:11 PM »
This is probably the most absurd claim an RE'er has made today.
Nope.
It isn't absurd at all.
Perhaps you can try to address the massive differences between satellites and balloons?

Such as... ?
Geostationary satellites follow precisely predictable orbits at approximately 35,786 km above mean sea level.
Balloons follow unpredictable paths determined by the local wind at an altitude of no more than about 50.0 km.

Hence one geostationary satellite can broadcast to a whole continent the size of USA or Australia plus New Zealand.
But one balloon can cover only a limited region.

On a flat earth the radio signals from the balloon wouldn't be occluded as soon. Using atmosphere penetrating wavelengths - balloon origined signals can travel quite far.
But in the case of geostationary satellites like for TV that would mean dishes across the country would be pointed in vastly different directions.  That's not the case.
In the US ALL such dishes are pointed south at an angle to receive from a height far too great for a balloon.

Not true, in FET they'd just be pointed at a lower altitude.