Light refraction doesn't work on the flat Earth model.

Try again!

Who did the vid?

Do you have a description of the vide?

What point is the vid making?

How does the vid support the point?

Who did the vid?

Do you have a description of the vide?

What point is the vid making?

How does the vid support the point?

are you really too lazy to watch the video? fine okay, but you're dodging the question at this point

Who did the vid?
JustWasted3HoursHere

Do you have a description of the video?
Flatters claim atmospheric refraction gives us the illusion of a sunset, the sun doesn't go below the horizon it gets refracted by the atmosphere, just like the bottom of the Ocean. Flatters have made experiments where they show light being refracted in water, ignoring that water is x800 more dense then air.

The problem is 99.9 percent of the atmosphere is is below 48 km, so when shown to scale, we get an idea of how much refraction we're looking at.

What point is the vid making?
The angle of sunlight at sunset is not great enough to block the sun out from the atmosphere

How does the vid support the point?
through a scale model of the flat earth, giving us a brief illustration of the angle.

are you really too lazy to watch the video?

No, I am not, but I cannot access the video at this time.

fine okay, but you're dodging the question at this point

What question?

JustWasted3HoursHere

Sounds like it.

Flatters claim atmospheric refraction gives us the illusion of a sunset, the sun doesn't go below the horizon it gets refracted by the atmosphere, just like the bottom of the Ocean. Flatters have made experiments where they show light being refracted in water, ignoring that water is x800 more dense then air.

I have not encountered this type of claim before from FE.

The problem is 99.9 percent of the atmosphere is is below 48 km, so when shown to scale, we get an idea of how much refraction we're looking at. [/I]

And 75 percent of the 99 is located at 11km or lower.

Why is this a problem?

How much refraction?

The angle of sunlight at sunset is not great enough to block the sun out from the atmosphere

How would "sunlight block out the Sun?"

I do not understand what you are writing.

through a scale model of the flat earth, giving us a brief illustration of the angle.

At what scale was the modeling performed.

How bright was the model sun?

Quote from: totallackey on December 19, 2017, 02:14:31 AM

Who did the vid?

Do you have a description of the vide?

What point is the vid making?

How does the vid support the point?

are you really too lazy to watch the video? fine okay, but you're dodging the question at this point

Who did the vid?
JustWasted3HoursHere

Do you have a description of the video?
Flatters claim atmospheric refraction gives us the illusion of a sunset, the sun doesn't go below the horizon it gets refracted by the atmosphere, just like the bottom of the Ocean. Flatters have made experiments where they show light being refracted in water, ignoring that water is x800 more dense then air.

The problem is 99.9 percent of the atmosphere is is below 48 km, so when shown to scale, we get an idea of how much refraction we're looking at.

What point is the vid making?
The angle of sunlight at sunset is not great enough to block the sun out from the atmosphere

How does the vid support the point?
through a scale model of the flat earth, giving us a brief illustration of the angle.

Not to mention the fact that atmospheric refraction makes the sun look higher than it really is, not lower.

Just as I thought.

This guy makes a 2 minute video and his model has no scale.

At the end, he claims, "NO WAY!"

Yeah, okay, gotcha...

Just as I thought.
This guy makes a 2 minute video and his model has no scale.
At the end, he claims, "NO WAY!"
Yeah, okay, gotcha...

These scales aren't enough?And I suppose you need some pretty pictures illustrating everything, well you're the FE expert,
draw some yourself, but this post calculates the usual refraction at the horizon, Flat Earth Debate / Re: FE Sunrise/Sunset Problem Solved (Apparently) « Message by rabinoz on January 20, 2017, 01:10:06 PM »

But the point that FEers can never grasp

Allow me to point out there is a scale but there is not.

Is the Sun to scale Copernicus?

Quote from: rabinoz on December 19, 2017, 01:14:51 PM

Allow me to point out there is a scale but there is not.

Is the Sun to scale Copernicus?

So what?

Quote from: totallackey on December 19, 2017, 01:27:59 PM

Quote from: rabinoz on December 19, 2017, 01:14:51 PM

Allow me to point out there is a scale but there is not.

Is the Sun to scale Copernicus?

So what?

So what?

Sew buttons on your underwear and post the vid.

Same amount of substance.

So what?

Sew buttons on your underwear and post the vid.

Same amount of substance.

In other words, you can't understand it, yes I guessed that.

Please explain how the "size of the sun" in the video could possibly have any effect on the points made.
The sun in his diagram at the time of setting is still at an elevation of about 23°.

Please explain
Just remember that the refractive index or a vacuum is 1.000 and of the atmosphere (at sea-level) is about 1.00029.