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« Reply #150 on: January 14, 2007, 12:47:26 PM »
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I have Jewish, Gypsy, Negroid and other non-European friends. And I treat them no different from my European friends.

Also, I have mentioned that my girlfriend is not European.

Dan, did you deliberately ignore this?

I meant that the above mentioned friends know of my beliefs. What have I said that is 'hateful' and 'racist'? I don't get it.
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« Reply #151 on: January 14, 2007, 01:03:28 PM »
I was about to point out to Red Skull that Dan the Man was acknowledging a point in which we could agree, but then I noticed that Dan the Man did indeed twist around what you said.  Such dishonesty is precisely what prevents rapprochement.  I would say beast, for example, is probably wrong in characterizzing you as racist, but at least beast did not deliberatley misquote you like Dan the Man has done.  I have noticed that Dan the Man has also characterized Astantia as a Klan member.  Maybe he reads too much Morris Dees.
  The main point is that it would appear that "holocaust" believers come in varying grades of dignity as well.  

Speaking of holocausts, I would say that is exactly what occurred to Serbia during the 1990's courtesy of certain Albanian muslim terrorists who were openly backed by the United States.  Many books describe the Albanian atrocities including the manufactured alleged atrocities of Serbs which served as an excuse to bomb Serbia.  The account I read is 'Kosovo Dossier' edited by Serge Trfkovic of the Lord Byron Foundation For Balkan Studies.
http://www.sane-boston.org/recentcrisesk.html
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« Reply #152 on: January 14, 2007, 01:04:37 PM »
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I have Jewish, Gypsy, Negroid and other non-European friends. And I treat them no different from my European friends.

Also, I have mentioned that my girlfriend is not European.

Dan, did you deliberately ignore this?


Well, aside fron the fact that I dont believe you, there wasnt anything more I could say.

I meant that the above mentioned friends know of my beliefs. What have I said that is 'hateful' and 'racist'? I don't get it.


Would you like the list?

1. You have denied the Holocaust without backing up evidence.
2. You have shown yourself to be prejudiced against people of other faiths.

3. And dont forget this little gem:

What the hell? I'm not a racist. And I was asking if you were a Jewish or non-Jewish Zionist, you commie fuck.
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« Reply #153 on: January 14, 2007, 01:08:36 PM »
Dan the Man = Morris Dees
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« Reply #154 on: January 14, 2007, 01:21:26 PM »
I'm not even going to reply to Dan's post. Thanks for understanding, Areopagite.

And I'm Serbian myself, what a coincidence. Or maybe you knew that and that's why you mentioned the part about Serbia.
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« Reply #155 on: January 14, 2007, 01:27:00 PM »
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I'm not even going to reply to Dan's post.

I'll do it for you by throwing a little Fred Phelps his way:
How Dan the Man replicates Morris Dees:
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:P0j3lwhZHlAJ:www.godhatesfags.com/writings/20051211_morris-dees-splc.pdf+laird+wilcox,+morris+dees&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1
 
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Or maybe you knew that and that's why you mentioned the part about Serbia.

Correct.  My interest in Orthodoxy has acquainted me somewhat with the Serbs and other historically Orthodox countries.

By the way Dan, thanks for letting me know about Fred Phelps.  Without enemies like you, I'd never have friends.
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« Reply #156 on: January 14, 2007, 01:29:32 PM »
Quote from: "Areopagite"

Speaking of holocausts, I would say that is exactly what occurred to Serbia during the 1990's courtesy of certain Albanian muslim terrorists who were openly backed by the United States.  Many books describe the Albanian atrocities including the manufactured alleged atrocities of Serbs which served as an excuse to bomb Serbia.  The account I read is 'Kosovo Dossier' edited by Serge Trfkovic of the Lord Byron Foundation For Balkan Studies.
http://www.sane-boston.org/recentcrisesk.html


Sure hope you know the world's history. Cuz the Serbs had it coming, and they had it coming hard.

(I'm against Serbs btw, they killed half my family and burried them in massgraves)
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« Reply #157 on: January 14, 2007, 01:38:56 PM »
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Sure hope you know the world's history. Cuz the Serbs had it coming, and they had it coming hard.

Do I detect a double standard with respect to the Serbs and the Jews?

I do disagree, but if you are referring to Tito, be assured that I am personally not a fan of his.

From what I find in Serbian history in general, the Serbs are the ones with the guts to take a stand for what is right when everyone else whimps out.  They rebelled against the onerous Turkish coloniaists even before the Greeks did.  They were colonized in turn by the Austrians.  They fought heroically against the Nazis in World War II.
If one can tell a lot about a person by his enemies, then the Serbs are vindicated by virtue of the fact that they fought against the Bulgarians when that country decided to invade Greece.
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« Reply #158 on: January 14, 2007, 01:41:42 PM »
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(I'm against Serbs btw, they killed half my family and burried them in massgraves)

This part was added after I made the post above, and I would like to say that I do not know the particulars of your family, but you have my condolences.

You don't have to answer this question, but are you by any chance one of the following?
Albanian
Bosnian
Croatian
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« Reply #159 on: January 14, 2007, 01:42:04 PM »
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I have Jewish, Gypsy, Negroid and other non-European friends. And I treat them no different from my European friends.

Also, I have mentioned that my girlfriend is not European.

Dan, did you deliberately ignore this?

I meant that the above mentioned friends know of my beliefs. What have I said that is 'hateful' and 'racist'? I don't get it.


You've got 'sieg heil' as your sig. if that's not enough, you've also got a twisted Nazi flag as your avatar. Are we actually supposed to believe you have non-white friends, nazifuck?
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« Reply #160 on: January 14, 2007, 02:08:55 PM »
Red Skull,

  What is your opinion of the Nazi actions against the Serbs in World War II?  
And of Tito?
And Mihailovich?

Would you not say that the Serbs historic position as an occupied land with respect to the Turks gives them something in common with other victims of colonialism such as Greece and various countries in Africa and other places?

It seems that Tito realized this and made use of it.  In my experience, many Africans these days can see the truth of Orthodoxy more easily than most white men.  Now that communism is gone, why don't more Orthodox embrace their brothers who are hungry for knowledge of the truth?  I also see the Hellenes in the same position.  The Greeks in WWII and before had precisely the same enemies as the north Africans - namely the Turks followed by the Italians and Germans and British and americans.
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« Reply #161 on: January 14, 2007, 03:07:35 PM »
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Clearly people must believe something negative about Jews if they deny the holocaust.

Often true, but not always.  In particular, one insidious exception involves Barry Chamish, the Jewish nationalist who has spoken at conferences of the Institute for Historical Review (IHR) - previously the biggest holocaust revisionst organization in the United States.  This was only possible after a west coast CIA agent facilitated the court approved theft of the revisionist organization from its founder.  Since this has occurred the organization has become far less energetic and significant than it once was.

  As laughably absurd as it may sound to persons unfamiliar with the facts, it would appear that the IHR has been infiltrated by the Anti-Defamation League using the Central Intelligence Agency in spite of the fact that the IHR still functions as a holocaust revisionist organization.  A poignant account of controlled opposition movements in the United States:
'Judas Goats' by Michael Collins Piper.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/Agora/agora.cgi?cart_id=%%cart_id%%&keywords=judas%20%20goats
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« Reply #162 on: January 14, 2007, 06:55:46 PM »
Quote from: "Red Skull"
I'm not even going to reply to Dan's post. Thanks for understanding, Areopagite.

And I'm Serbian myself, what a coincidence. Or maybe you knew that and that's why you mentioned the part about Serbia.


Come on, you nazi piece of shit. I want to hear your reply. Unless of course, you're sticking a gun in your mouth, in which case I applaud your decision. Just leave a towel so people can clean up after your disgusting mess.
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« Reply #163 on: January 14, 2007, 07:44:01 PM »
Quote from: "Sanirius"

Sure hope you know the world's history. Cuz the Serbs had it coming, and they had it coming hard.

(I'm against Serbs btw, they killed half my family and burried them in massgraves)

Maybe your family had it coming. Insult my family (the Serbian people), and I'll insult yours.

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You've got 'sieg heil' as your sig. if that's not enough, you've also got a twisted Nazi flag as your avatar. Are we actually supposed to believe you have non-white friends, nazifuck?

You may believe whatever you want, untermensch.

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Red Skull,

What is your opinion of the Nazi actions against the Serbs in World War II?  
And of Tito?
And Mihailovich?

The Nazi actions against the Serbs were as despicable as any other Nazi atrocity.

I have mixed feelings about Tito, my mother likes him, my father doesn't. And this is very interesting in my opinion because my father lived through Tito's Stalinism while my mother experienced his softer rule during the end. He did keep Yugoslavia together. Different cultures and ethnicities living together in peace.

And as for Dragoljub "Draža" Mihailović, if that is the Mihailović you're talking about, then I'm a big fan. :P

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Would you not say that the Serbs historic position as an occupied land with respect to the Turks gives them something in common with other victims of colonialism such as Greece and various countries in Africa and other places?

Yes, although I have no knowledge of what happened in Africa. I have never had a real interest for that continent.

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It seems that Tito realized this and made use of it.  In my experience, many Africans these days can see the truth of Orthodoxy more easily than most white men.  Now that communism is gone, why don't more Orthodox embrace their brothers who are hungry for knowledge of the truth?  I also see the Hellenes in the same position.  The Greeks in WWII and before had precisely the same enemies as the north Africans - namely the Turks followed by the Italians and Germans and British and americans.

I completely agree with you. I have a question for you as well. What is your stance towards Turkey in the EU?
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« Reply #164 on: January 14, 2007, 11:43:17 PM »
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Quote from: "Sanirius"
Sure hope you know the world's history. Cuz the Serbs had it coming, and they had it coming hard.

Do I detect a double standard with respect to the Serbs and the Jews?

I do disagree, but if you are referring to Tito, be assured that I am personally not a fan of his.

From what I find in Serbian history in general, the Serbs are the ones with the guts to take a stand for what is right when everyone else whimps out.  They rebelled against the onerous Turkish coloniaists even before the Greeks did.  They were colonized in turn by the Austrians.  They fought heroically against the Nazis in World War II.
If one can tell a lot about a person by his enemies, then the Serbs are vindicated by virtue of the fact that they fought against the Bulgarians when that country decided to invade Greece.


Wrong, Serbia was never part of the Austrian empire. As of the fighting against the Nazi's, great job indeed, but it was that dude you dislike so much that was the leader of the partizans and kicked nazi ass. In the partizans were Serbs, Slovanians, Croats. Don't get in love with the Serbs now, especially not when you are so much against a holocoust. Nobody on the balkans was ever agaisnt them. Hell, all other people there originate from Serbs, just the religion is diffrent. But after what the fuckers did.... I'm going hunting over the border every day.
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« Reply #165 on: January 14, 2007, 11:46:41 PM »
Nobody get me wrong here. Aye?
Fuck your goverment! It's our homes you're crashing in!
And while we're at the subject, imagine this: If I took your wife and kids and put them in a ditch, with bulletfire coming at them,
and strip your females clothes and rape their souls... SHIT the world would go to hell wouldnt it?!? Then it shouldnt happen to us now should it!?

Sounds fermilliar?
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« Reply #166 on: January 15, 2007, 12:09:49 AM »
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Nobody get me wrong here. Aye?
frak your goverment! It's our homes you're crashing in!
And while we're at the subject, imagine this: If I took your wife and kids and put them in a ditch, with bulletfire coming at them,
and strip your females clothes and rape their souls... SHIT the world would go to hell wouldnt it?!? Then it shouldnt happen to us now should it!?

Sounds fermilliar?

If you are a Croat or a Bosniak then I know where you're coming from. My grandfather was murdered by the Ustaše. They cut off his nose and ears for fun before they killed him. He is counted as a 'Holocaust victim'.

But if you're Albanian I have less sympathy for you for some reason. :lol:
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« Reply #167 on: January 15, 2007, 06:44:18 AM »
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Quote from: "Sanirius"
Nobody get me wrong here. Aye?
frak your goverment! It's our homes you're crashing in!
And while we're at the subject, imagine this: If I took your wife and kids and put them in a ditch, with bulletfire coming at them,
and strip your females clothes and rape their souls... SHIT the world would go to hell wouldnt it?!? Then it shouldnt happen to us now should it!?

Sounds fermilliar?

If you are a Croat or a Bosniak then I know where you're coming from. My grandfather was murdered by the Ustaše. They cut off his nose and ears for fun before they killed him. He is counted as a 'Holocaust victim'.

But if you're Albanian I have less sympathy for you for some reason. :lol:


Fuck Ustasa. Lucky for me bosnia didnt excist back then  :shock:
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« Reply #168 on: January 15, 2007, 07:50:26 AM »
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But if you're Albanian I have less sympathy for you for some reason. :lol:

Because you are racist. :roll:
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« Reply #169 on: January 15, 2007, 08:36:18 AM »
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But if you're Albanian I have less sympathy for you for some reason. :lol:

Because you are racist. :roll:

No, it's a Balkan thing. :P

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frak Ustasa. Lucky for me bosnia didnt excist back then  :shock:

Where are you from?
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« Reply #170 on: January 15, 2007, 09:21:08 AM »
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But if you're Albanian I have less sympathy for you for some reason. :lol:

Because you are racist. :roll:

No, it's a Balkan thing. :P

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frak Ustasa. Lucky for me bosnia didnt excist back then  :shock:

Where are you from?


Tito's Yugoslavia :)
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« Reply #171 on: January 15, 2007, 09:45:54 AM »
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Tito's Yugoslavia :)

Yes but what is your ethnicity? Please don't answer Yugoslav. :P
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« Reply #172 on: January 15, 2007, 07:17:21 PM »
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No, it's a Balkan thing. :P

Doesn't make it any less racist.
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« Reply #173 on: January 15, 2007, 07:21:23 PM »
yes it did happen assholes
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« Reply #174 on: January 15, 2007, 10:28:03 PM »
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Tito's Yugoslavia :)

Yes but what is your ethnicity? Please don't answer Yugoslav. :P


We're all slavian aren't we? Stop thinking about ethnicities. They're the reason that war started anyway. I'm a Yugoslav.

We have the same ancestors
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« Reply #175 on: January 15, 2007, 11:41:35 PM »
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Albanian
Bosnian
Croatian
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« Reply #176 on: January 16, 2007, 07:47:43 AM »
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No, it's a Balkan thing. :P

Doesn't make it any less racist.

You wouldn't know.

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Tito's Yugoslavia :)

Yes but what is your ethnicity? Please don't answer Yugoslav. :P


We're all slavian aren't we? Stop thinking about ethnicities. They're the reason that war started anyway. I'm a Yugoslav.

We have the same ancestors

Not necessarily. Sure we're both Slavic linguistically, but Slavic is also a meta-ethnicity. And why is it so bad talking about ethnicity? I'm just curious. It's like when I ask someone online if they're male or female.

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Albanian
Bosnian
Croatian

Would that be Bosnian-Serb, Bosnian-Croat or Bosniak?
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« Reply #177 on: January 16, 2007, 08:17:38 AM »
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You wouldn't know.

Of course I wouldn't. :roll:

Disliking someone because of their ethnicity is racism no matter how much you claim otherwise. Not only do you dislike them because they are Albanian, but you are convinced that in this case it is not racism just because they are Albanian. So in fact, you are so racist that you do not realize that you are a racist.
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« Reply #178 on: January 16, 2007, 09:26:04 AM »
You know thats the biggest nonesense there is. Bosnian-serb or Bosnian-croat?? I mean like wtf dude? When you're born and rased in Bosnia you are a friggin Bosnian.

I'm a Bosniak
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« Reply #179 on: January 16, 2007, 09:31:57 AM »
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You wouldn't know.

Of course I wouldn't. :roll:

Disliking someone because of their ethnicity is racism no matter how much you claim otherwise. Not only do you dislike them because they are Albanian, but you are convinced that in this case it is not racism just because they are Albanian. So in fact, you are so racist that you do not realize that you are a racist.


Masterchief, they can't help it, they're born with it.
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