Flat Earth DIY.

  • 21 Replies
  • 581 Views
*

54N

  • 173
Flat Earth DIY.
« on: December 18, 2017, 04:26:48 AM »
A few people have asked about radio hams or airline pilots being flat earth believers.     I'm going to bring it down to earth slightly, and within the realms of possibility...  Any flat-earth DIY enthusiasts out there?
How do you cut a piece of wood in half with your refusal to measure anything?   I'm  guessing there are some very wobbly tables in flat earthers' houses!
Cheers.

*

54N

  • 173
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2017, 08:01:59 AM »
Hmm..  As nobody's answered I'll take it as a no.      What I'd suggest then is you flat earth believers to get some wood and some tools and get into it!    If you start to understand why you can't saw a piece of wood accurately in half without measuring anything, then you might also understand how you can't determine the shape of the earth without measuring anything.

*

N30

  • 590
  • I can only show you the door.
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2017, 08:03:56 AM »
Your premise is flawed and illogical.

*

54N

  • 173
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2017, 08:28:34 AM »
Your premise is flawed and illogical.
How?   I see "it looks flat so it must be flat" written by flat earth believers.     What's the difference with "it looks like half so it must be half"?

*

Pizza Planet

  • 201
  • Flat Earth is just a theory
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2017, 08:30:46 AM »
Your premise is flawed and illogical.

Could you name one flattie astronomer? Just one.

*

Bullwinkle

  • Flat Earth Curator
  • 16491
  • "Umm, WTF ???"
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2017, 08:33:09 AM »
Hmm..  As nobody's answered I'll take it as a no.      What I'd suggest then is you flat earth believers to get some wood and some tools and get into it!    If you start to understand why you can't saw a piece of wood accurately in half without measuring anything, then you might also understand how you can't determine the shape of the earth without measuring anything.


Draw lines from opposite corners so that they cross. Cut the board in half where the lines cross.

You have cut the board accurately in half without measuring anything.
RE can never win this argument.
FE can't be disproved.

*

54N

  • 173
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2017, 08:41:16 AM »
Draw lines from opposite corners so that they cross. Cut the board in half where the lines cross.
That is measuring.    Using geometry to determine accuracy.

*

Bullwinkle

  • Flat Earth Curator
  • 16491
  • "Umm, WTF ???"
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2017, 08:43:25 AM »
Draw lines from opposite corners so that they cross. Cut the board in half where the lines cross.
That is measuring.    Using geometry to determine accuracy.

There are no units of measure used.
RE can never win this argument.
FE can't be disproved.

*

54N

  • 173
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2017, 08:49:19 AM »
There are no units of measure used.
I never mentioned units,  I just mentioned measuring.
Measurement without any units (such as the method you suggested) is brilliant. Pure geometry!

A great example is checking the straightness of a straightedge..    Get three of them.  If each one is flat against both the other two then they all must be straight.  Measurement with pure geometry and logic.  No numbers or units necessary.

*

Bullwinkle

  • Flat Earth Curator
  • 16491
  • "Umm, WTF ???"
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2017, 09:00:33 AM »
There are no units of measure used.
I never mentioned units,  I just mentioned measuring.
Measurement without any units (such as the method you suggested) is brilliant. Pure geometry!

A great example is checking the straightness of a straightedge..    Get three of them.  If each one is flat against both the other two then they all must be straight.  Measurement with pure geometry and logic.  No numbers or units necessary.


meas·ure  ˈmeZHər/
Ascertain the size, amount, or degree of (something) by using an instrument or device marked in standard units or by comparing it with an object of known size.
RE can never win this argument.
FE can't be disproved.

*

54N

  • 173
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2017, 09:06:27 AM »
meas·ure  ˈmeZHər/
Ascertain the size, amount, or degree of (something) by using an instrument or device marked in standard units or or by comparing it with an object of known size.

 :-X

*

Nightsky

  • 900
  • Know the implications of what you believe.
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2017, 09:07:54 AM »
Your premise is flawed and illogical.

And what is the nature of yours, please elaborated.
You can call me Gwyneth
I said that
Oh for the love of- Logical formulation:
FET is wrong, unsupported by evidence, and most models are refuted on multiple fronts; those that aren't tend not to make enough predictions to be realistically falsifiable
Jane said these

*

Nightsky

  • 900
  • Know the implications of what you believe.
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2017, 09:09:09 AM »
Your premise is flawed and illogical.

Could you name one flattie astronomer? Just one.

John Davis? He appears to know a lot about the moon, does that count?
You can call me Gwyneth
I said that
Oh for the love of- Logical formulation:
FET is wrong, unsupported by evidence, and most models are refuted on multiple fronts; those that aren't tend not to make enough predictions to be realistically falsifiable
Jane said these

*

Bullwinkle

  • Flat Earth Curator
  • 16491
  • "Umm, WTF ???"
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2017, 09:14:41 AM »
meas·ure  ˈmeZHər/
Ascertain the size, amount, or degree of (something) by using an instrument or device marked in standard units or or by comparing it with an object of known size.

 :-X


Length of board is unknown. Length of straight edge is unknown. Board is cut in half. What has been compared?
RE can never win this argument.
FE can't be disproved.

*

54N

  • 173
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2017, 09:20:09 AM »
meas·ure  ˈmeZHər/
Ascertain the size, amount, or degree of (something) by using an instrument or device marked in standard units or or by comparing it with an object of known size.

 :-X
Length of board is unknown. Length of straight edge is unknown. Board is cut in half. What has been compared?
The two halves you just constructed using geometry.

You seem to be discussing the semantics of the word 'measure' rather than my point of flat earthers refusing to use geometry.   I should have worded my initial post better to prevent such derailment.

*

Bullwinkle

  • Flat Earth Curator
  • 16491
  • "Umm, WTF ???"
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2017, 09:30:11 AM »

How do you cut a piece of wood in half with your refusal to measure anything?



I answered your question.

If I was trying to be a butthole I would have said you can't use a 'refusal to measure anything' to cut wood.   ;D
RE can never win this argument.
FE can't be disproved.

*

54N

  • 173
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2017, 09:37:47 AM »
How do you cut a piece of wood in half with your refusal to measure anything?
I answered your question.
If I was trying to be a butthole I would have said you can't use a 'refusal to measure anything' to cut wood.   ;D
You answered but provided a method of measuring as your answer.   :)

I should have maybe written "How do you cut a piece of wood in half with your refusal to use any tools or any kind of geometrical construction to measure anything?" to prevent anyone misunderstanding the meaning of 'measuring'.
So.    Any flat earth DIYers out there?    How do you measure things?  Why don't you apply the same methods to understanding the shape of the earth?

*

Bullwinkle

  • Flat Earth Curator
  • 16491
  • "Umm, WTF ???"
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2017, 09:41:29 AM »
How do you cut a piece of wood in half with your refusal to measure anything?
I answered your question.
If I was trying to be a butthole I would have said you can't use a 'refusal to measure anything' to cut wood.   ;D

You answered but provided a method of measuring as your answer.   :)



OK. Cut from one corner to the other. You get two equal sized pieces.
RE can never win this argument.
FE can't be disproved.

*

markjo

  • Content Nazi
  • The Elder Ones
  • 38001
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2017, 10:22:54 AM »
How do you cut a piece of wood in half with your refusal to measure anything?
I answered your question.
If I was trying to be a butthole I would have said you can't use a 'refusal to measure anything' to cut wood.   ;D

You answered but provided a method of measuring as your answer.   :)



OK. Cut from one corner to the other. You get two equal sized pieces.
Who said that the wood has corners?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

*

Bullwinkle

  • Flat Earth Curator
  • 16491
  • "Umm, WTF ???"
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2017, 10:27:14 AM »
What if the wood has dry rot?
RE can never win this argument.
FE can't be disproved.

*

Space Cowgirl

  • MOM
  • Administrator
  • 39557
  • Official FE Recruiter
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2017, 10:43:36 AM »
What if a woodchuck chucked it?
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

*

markjo

  • Content Nazi
  • The Elder Ones
  • 38001
Re: Flat Earth DIY.
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2017, 10:44:41 AM »
Save a tree, eat a beaver.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.