The world's most accurate map

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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #330 on: February 01, 2018, 11:52:43 PM »
Thank you for your word.
Another interesting point would be Easter Island. It's a good one because it's a well known touristic place and has verified flights from Polynesia and Chile.

Latam airlines is in the black list. They have listed as "deceiver, liar" caterogy company.

Tahiti-Easter Island flights are nothing but just a little hoax. Latam claims it. No, lie.

Why you globars suddenly started to attack? Nobody invite or ask you for your comments!
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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #331 on: February 01, 2018, 11:59:38 PM »
I have started to draw the map of the continents. A bit difficult in the scale you are using. But it seems to start to make sense. How does one shoe the other 3 wind directions on the map in relation to North?

Are you aware that you are speaking too much? Stop to talk anymore nonsence. Nobody ask you anything. If you want to play game, do it out of here. Here is not a kindergarden.
Well you asked for help to draw in the countries!!! Why am i talking too much??? I am asking a question whats the problem with that????

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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #332 on: February 02, 2018, 12:01:00 AM »
Easter Island that trolls attacked for this island:



There is no flights except Santiago.



I wonder when you globasts will give up act like kindergarden students.
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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #333 on: February 02, 2018, 12:04:14 AM »
I have started to draw the map of the continents. A bit difficult in the scale you are using. But it seems to start to make sense. How does one shoe the other 3 wind directions on the map in relation to North?

Are you aware that you are speaking too much? Stop to talk anymore nonsence. Nobody ask you anything. If you want to play game, do it out of here. Here is not a kindergarden.
Well you asked for help to draw in the countries!!! Why am i talking too much??? I am asking a question whats the problem with that????

Do you have to show winds on the map? Come on, you are just kidding in your little mind. Be honest for a few time and get out of here.
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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #334 on: February 02, 2018, 12:25:00 AM »
Tahiti

Tahiti is added for amateur map workers:

There is a perfect intersection here:



Used datas: Tahiti distance co city/google value/corrected value:

Los Angeles 6.630 6.898
Honolulu 4.428 as same!
Auckland 4.097 corrected as 4.458
Tokyo 9.518  corrected as 5.819

As a result, Tahiti is added as a reference point to Ocenia.



We can't add the "east island" yet because there is insufficient data for do it.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2018, 12:26:46 AM by brotherhood of the dome »
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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #335 on: February 02, 2018, 12:43:05 AM »
Checking arrive to Tahiti from world:

You may go Tahiti from direct or indirect:



USA, Ocenia, Europe or Asia. But you can't go Tahiti from South America! Neither from Sao Paulo, nor from Santiago, Chile. I belive that Latam airlines is saying lie about Tahiti. They don't fly there. Also they have no flight on airport to Tahiti.

Air Tahiti says truth about Tahiti. Only Air Tahiti may say where you can go Tahiti from.
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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #336 on: February 02, 2018, 02:11:39 AM »
Some more flights from/to South America over Pacific.

https://www.flights.com/flights/papeete-ppt-to-lima-lim/

With details and map.

But he ignores anything that breaks his world reshape wishes. :-)
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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #337 on: February 02, 2018, 02:16:50 AM »
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I belive that Latam airlines is saying lie about Tahiti. They don't fly there. Also they have no flight on airport to Tahiti.

Well you are wrong.
Here is  the official airport web page archive for the last week (in French sorry) :

http://www.tahiti-aeroport.pf/articles.php?id=96

You can see the following flights (both charter and regular flights):

22/01 : TN711 to Easter Island
23/01 : LA836 to Easter Island and Santiago de Chile
23/01 : LA833 from Easter Island and Santiago de Chile
24/01 : TN712 from Easter Island

Flights labelled LAxx are from LaTam, TNxx are from Air Tahiti Nui.

You know, Faa is a little airport. There are few international flights, so "they" cannot create imaginary flights. You DO see Latam planes parked on the tarmac. You DO see people boarding for Easter Island and coming from it. It's a known and appreciated destination. 

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Air Tahiti says truth about Tahiti

Easter Island is  connected with Tahiti on  a weekly basis with regular flight (LaTam) plus some charter flights operated by Air Tahiti Nui.
As Easter Island is connected to Santiago de Chile, you can fly from Tahiti to Santiago de Chile. And the distance from Tahiti to Santiago de Chile is wrong, dead wrong.Like the distance from Auckland to Chile or  Buenos Aires. Believe it or not, that's real life.

I'm sorry if it doesn't please you because it makes your map inaccurate, but you cannot just simply dismiss every single flight witch does not fit your beliefs.
For example How do you "correct" this

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Tahiti - Tokyo 9.518  corrected as 5.819

when this record

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/THT78/history/20180128/1700Z/NTAA/RJAA

shows that the plane needs near 12 hours to reach Tokyo... That's something about 480 km/hr of average speed for an Airbus A340. Really slow, Really really slow for such a long flight. Your "corrected" distance do not make sense. How did you calculate it ?

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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #338 on: February 02, 2018, 02:45:42 AM »
I do like -- and appreciate a lot! -- the amount of work put into this, it has been interesting to follow, but the omissions made do make it harder to swallow the results.

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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #339 on: February 02, 2018, 02:46:35 AM »
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I hate when measured values ruin results of my experiment.

World airline routemap 2009
Too many southern flights to declare "hoax". :-)
After 2009 was also introduced flight Tahiti (PPT) - Lima (LIM), and few more.

« Last Edit: February 02, 2018, 02:51:18 AM by Macarios »
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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #340 on: February 02, 2018, 03:55:22 AM »
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I belive that Latam airlines is saying lie about Tahiti. They don't fly there. Also they have no flight on airport to Tahiti.

Well you are wrong.
Here is  the official airport web page archive for the last week (in French sorry) :

http://www.tahiti-aeroport.pf/articles.php?id=96

You can see the following flights (both charter and regular flights):

22/01 : TN711 to Easter Island
23/01 : LA836 to Easter Island and Santiago de Chile
23/01 : LA833 from Easter Island and Santiago de Chile
24/01 : TN712 from Easter Island

Flights labelled LAxx are from LaTam, TNxx are from Air Tahiti Nui.

You know, Faa is a little airport. There are few international flights, so "they" cannot create imaginary flights. You DO see Latam planes parked on the tarmac. You DO see people boarding for Easter Island and coming from it. It's a known and appreciated destination. 

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Air Tahiti says truth about Tahiti

Easter Island is  connected with Tahiti on  a weekly basis with regular flight (LaTam) plus some charter flights operated by Air Tahiti Nui.
As Easter Island is connected to Santiago de Chile, you can fly from Tahiti to Santiago de Chile. And the distance from Tahiti to Santiago de Chile is wrong, dead wrong.Like the distance from Auckland to Chile or  Buenos Aires. Believe it or not, that's real life.

I'm sorry if it doesn't please you because it makes your map inaccurate, but you cannot just simply dismiss every single flight witch does not fit your beliefs.
For example How do you "correct" this

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Tahiti - Tokyo 9.518  corrected as 5.819

when this record

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/THT78/history/20180128/1700Z/NTAA/RJAA

shows that the plane needs near 12 hours to reach Tokyo... That's something about 480 km/hr of average speed for an Airbus A340. Really slow, Really really slow for such a long flight. Your "corrected" distance do not make sense. How did you calculate it ?

You are saying lie! When I click the link you gave and search for a flight:



No flight!

We are February okey? February, not January! Show me a reliable flight, not a fable.

You are start to write fable like how old globist liars. Shame on you. If you continue to say lie and blame me, I will ignore you.

Who want to do, click this link and control if this "hoax" flight exist or not!

https://www.flightnetwork.com/destinations/Easter-Island/Tahiti_Easter-Island.html

This is the link he gave. No flight! But it is easy to write a fable about past!

I think you don't understand what you read. Article talking about "DEPARTURES!"



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Horaire des vols de TAHITI - FAAA Du lundi 22 Janvier 2018 au dimanche 28 Janvier 2018

Lundi 22 Janvier 2018
Arrivées :

TN101 LOS ANGELES (AA7171/ QF3816/ SB4411/ NZ4091) 0530
TN077 TOKYO (KE6701/JL5077) 0620

TN102 AUCKLAND (AA7176 / QF3815 / SB4410) 2230

Départs :

TN101 AUCKLAND (AA7177/ QF3816/ SB4411) 0755

TN711 ILE DE PAQUES (VOL CHARTER) 0830

TN102 LOS ANGELES (QF3815 / AA7176 /AF5103 / SB4410/NZ4092 ) 2359

This is the link he gave again: http://www.tahiti-aeroport.pf/articles.php?id=96

It is not talking about direct flight. It offers a lot of departures!

Because of he said a lie in the post, I ignored remained nonsences!

If he continues his "dishonest lies", I'll be constrained to ignore him.
1+2+3+...+∞= 1

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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #341 on: February 02, 2018, 04:05:43 AM »
Oh, I found a flight in 5th February but then...



It offers me a about 10.000 TL price. (about 3.000$) It is almost half of a car cost. It means "dont buy this flight!". I'm sure Latam will find a way to cancel this flight, or will offer "departures" on next days, or will say "the aircraft made a retar because of air conditions". This is exact. Because LATAM airlines is not fliying in this path!

I'm saying again, Latam airlines doesn't fly between Tahiti and Eastern Island. It is absent. It is lie. Don't come with such lies again.
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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #342 on: February 02, 2018, 04:40:49 AM »
Why Tahiti-Tokyo path continues time longer than estimated:



Because of pilots must use GPS or navigation systems; the systems lets them a place near to Ocenian countries. They are clearly using the wrong path, like how New Zealand pilots are doing while they run to Los Angeles. Similar problem.

1+2+3+...+∞= 1

Come on bro, just admit that the the earth isn't a sphere, you won't even be wrong

Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #343 on: February 02, 2018, 05:09:16 AM »
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You are saying lie! When I click the link you gave and search for a flight:
Wrong and I can prove it
Please pay attention. I've already explained to you that there is ONE flight per week.
I can't help you if you don't know how to search.
Here is it



769 $ is not really expensive for such a flight isn't it ?
Of course, when you book near flights, you pay more, but that's true for every destination...

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https://www.flightnetwork.com/destinations/Easter-Island/Tahiti_Easter-Island.html
This is the link he gave. No flight! But it is easy to write a fable about past!
Well i't seems that you were wrong and it's not a fable. BTW I didn't provide this specific link.
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I'm saying again, Latam airlines doesn't fly between Tahiti and Eastern Island. It is absent. It is lie. Don't come with such lies again.
Here you can see that they DO fly between Tahiti and Eastern Island. Right ?
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I think you don't understand what you read. Article talking about "DEPARTURES!
Well I do, I speak french quite fluently. The link from the Faaa airport shows previous departures AND arrivals of REAL flights
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Horaire des vols de TAHITI - FAAA Du lundi 22 Janvier 2018 au dimanche 28 Janvier 2018

Lundi 22 Janvier 2018
Arrivées :
TN101 LOS ANGELES (AA7171/ QF3816/ SB4411/ NZ4091) 0530
TN077 TOKYO (KE6701/JL5077) 0620
TN102 AUCKLAND (AA7176 / QF3815 / SB4410) 2230

Départs :
TN101 AUCKLAND (AA7177/ QF3816/ SB4411) 0755
TN711 ILE DE PAQUES (VOL CHARTER) 0830
TN102 LOS ANGELES (QF3815 / AA7176 /AF5103 / SB4410/NZ4092 ) 2359

Mardi 23 Janvier 2018
Arrivées :
TN007 PARIS / LOS ANGELES (AA7173 / NZ4097 / AF5102) 0045
LA833 SANTIAGO/ILE DE PAQUES 0100
NZ040 AUCKLAND 1625

Départs :
LA836 ILE DE PAQUES/SANTIAGO 0255
NZ041 AUCKLAND 1755
TN008 LOS ANGELES / PARIS (AA7174 / NZ4098) 2300
TN002 LOS ANGELES (QF3817 / AA7172 / NZ4092) 2359

Mercredi 24 Janvier 2018
Arrivées :
TN101 LOS ANGELES (QF3816 / AA7177 / NZ4091) 0530
TN712 ILES DE PAQUES (VOL CHARTER) 1800
TN102 AUCKLAND (AA7176 / QF3815 / NZ314) 2230
TN001 LOS ANGELES (QF3820 / AA7171 / NZ4093) 2240

Départs :
TN101 AUCKLAND (QF3816 / NZ315 / AA7177) 0755
TN102 LOS ANGELES (QF3815 / AA7176 / NZ4092) 2359

Jeudi 25 Janvier 2018

Arrivées :
AF076 PARIS / LOS ANGELES (DL8560) 0615
VT036 RAROTONGA (GZ036) 1820

Départs :
AF077 LOS ANGELES / PARIS (DL8567) 0825
VT035 RAROTONGA (GZ035) 1215
TN002 LOS ANGELES (QF3817 / AA7172 / NZ4092) 2359
Do you see the destinations ? For example AF077 going to Los Angeles then to Paris ?
Same thing for the LA836 going to Easter Island then to Santiago.
You are the one claiming the flight to LA valid, why the flight to Easter Island isn't a valid one ?
BTW, next week, you will find there the record of this week, if you dare search.


So, are you seriously saying that the airport is creating imaginary records of imaginary planes when there are only 3 or 4 international flights per day ?
How can they hide this missing flight? Please explain.
But don't believe me, let's check for the next flight. It's scheduled for 06/02/2018 Local Date departing from Faaa. 
See ya next thursday ( mind that they follow  the GMT-10 time ), we'll check this together, ok ?

here :http://www.tahiti-aeroport.pf/index.php

Edit : typo
« Last Edit: February 02, 2018, 05:48:36 AM by Antonio »

Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #344 on: February 02, 2018, 05:18:18 AM »
Why Tahiti-Tokyo path continues time longer than estimated:

Because of pilots must use GPS or navigation systems; the systems lets them a place near to Ocenian countries. They are clearly using the wrong path, like how New Zealand pilots are doing while they run to Los Angeles. Similar problem.

So you are using flight times to find distances, but when the distances don't sum up with your theory you explain that the pilots are mistaken. They are sometimes taking the wrong route and sometimes not. Really ?
That's not very scientific. Give evidence other than saying " I'm Right"


And you still don't explain how you "correct" the distance from 9.518km to 5.819km




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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #345 on: February 02, 2018, 05:50:15 AM »
Luanda

Luanda   Johannesburg   2485   
Luanda   Addis   3451   
Luanda   Casablanca   5206   
Luanda   London   6827   
Luanda   Amsterdam   6850   
Luanda   Lagos   2015   corrected as 2147

Luanda is added.

Dar Essalaam

Dar esselam   Istanbul   5421   changed to 5648
Dar esselam   Addis   1763   
Dar esselam   Johannesburg   2461   
Dar esselam   Amsterdam   7342   

Dar Essalaam is added with a perfect intersection. And colored as green for show its reliablility.

Nairobi

Nairobi   Johannesburg   2926 same
Nairobi   Addis   1165 same
Nairobi   Lagos   3804 corrected as 4.685
4:49 B738 856 4.123
Nairobi   Dar Essalam   674 same
Nairobi   Istanbul   4768 same
Nairobi   London   6817 same
Nairobi   Amsterdam   6668 same

nairobi is added.

Djibouti   Addis   523
Djibouti   Nairobi   1590
Djibouti   Istanbul   3563 corrected as 4.003 kms.
5:20 B738 856 4.405

Tell me, if Djibouti close till 3.500kms, why "smart" Turkish airlines pilots can't go there less than 5:00 hours!!

Djibouti is added and colored blue.

Muscat (Oman)

Muscat   Addis   2.661 2946
3:36 B738 848
Muscat   Nairobi   3633 4.116
5:04 B732 842
Muscat   istanbul   3354 4.364
B738 5:17 856
Muscat   Delhi   1940 2.136
2:41 A321 825
Muscat   London   5830 5.763 corrected to 6.467
A333 6:56 864
B789 6:50 902



Once again! If Istanbul to Muscat distance as near as just 3.300kms, why smart Turkish Airlines pilots run that distance at least 5:00 hours! Why this hoax?

So I used flight times and corrected them.

Only London distance is changed and the others perfectly overlapped!



How a perfect overlapping!

Muscat is added and colored as blue.

meanwhile, Russian cities that some of them added by estimation with google distances seems close to Middle east and far to the center. They will be corrected later but for now I changed their colors as magenta.

As a result;

Luanda, Dar Essalaam, Nairobi and Muscat are added.

1+2+3+...+∞= 1

Come on bro, just admit that the the earth isn't a sphere, you won't even be wrong

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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #346 on: February 02, 2018, 05:54:51 AM »
Why Tahiti-Tokyo path continues time longer than estimated:

Because of pilots must use GPS or navigation systems; the systems lets them a place near to Ocenian countries. They are clearly using the wrong path, like how New Zealand pilots are doing while they run to Los Angeles. Similar problem.

So you are using flight times to find distances, but when the distances don't sum up with your theory you explain that the pilots are mistaken. They are sometimes taking the wrong route and sometimes not. Really ?
That's not very scientific. Give evidence other than saying " I'm Right"


And you still don't explain how you "correct" the distance from 9.518km to 5.819km

Isn't it an explanation. Are you idiot?

Why Tahiti-Tokyo path continues time longer than estimated:



Do I have to spend my time by answering your idiotic questions?

Where is the moderation? Is it a debate section?
1+2+3+...+∞= 1

Come on bro, just admit that the the earth isn't a sphere, you won't even be wrong

Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #347 on: February 02, 2018, 06:37:44 AM »
I have started to draw the map of the continents. A bit difficult in the scale you are using. But it seems to start to make sense. How does one shoe the other 3 wind directions on the map in relation to North?

Are you aware that you are speaking too much? Stop to talk anymore nonsence. Nobody ask you anything. If you want to play game, do it out of here. Here is not a kindergarden.
Well you asked for help to draw in the countries!!! Why am i talking too much??? I am asking a question whats the problem with that????

Do you have to show winds on the map? Come on, you are just kidding in your little mind. Be honest for a few time and get out of here.
who is talking about winds????? Wind directions ie South West and East! or maybe I should have said compass points? I dont know what else to call it. So if you have a better alternative please let me know. Somewhere in a previous post you mentioned airport x was (I think) south west of airport Y. Thats why I am asking the question!!!!!

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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #348 on: February 02, 2018, 07:41:54 AM »
Are the map drawn and distances calculated by brotherhood of the dome accepted by InFlatEarth, Papa Legba, totallackey, and dutchy. Just wondering what they think of it.

I think brotherhood's version differs from the one proposed by Danang, at least.

EDIT: Added dutchy.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2018, 08:00:11 AM by rvlvr »

Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #349 on: February 02, 2018, 08:24:25 AM »

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Isn't it an explanation. Are you idiot?
I don't thnk so, but I do think you are attacking the person and not the argument
How you "correct" the distance from 9.518km to 5.819km, why 5819 and not 4876 km ?
Please answer the question?

Why Tahiti-Tokyo path continues time longer than estimated:

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Why Tahiti-Tokyo path continues time longer than estimated:
Because of pilots must use GPS or navigation systems; the systems lets them a place near to Ocenian countries. They are clearly using the wrong path, like how New Zealand pilots are doing while they run to Los Angeles. Similar problem.

So you think that pilots are using GPS to navigate but fear to fly over the oceans  and have to keep some kind of visual over islands. They are almost doubling the flight time and are aware of that but no one can correct this.
They are using some hi-tech instruments but have to rely on the good old eyes to navigate.
Question: how do the find the route at night or when the groud is hidden by clouds?

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Do I have to spend my time by answering your idiotic questions? Where is the moderation? Is it a debate section?
It's up to you but, well, this subforum is called Flat Earth General, and below the title, you can read:
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For the discussion of any FE topics unrelated to Flat Earth Theory. FE conspiracy topics belong here
Noted the discussion word ? So no moderator will come to save you.

Let's sum up.
You called me a liar, and you were wrong, but cannot accept your mistake.
You cannot disprove that the flight Tahiti-Easter Island is real, trashing your South America-Polynesia -and by extension Australia- distances.
You think that pilots are sometimes lost, sometimes fearful, and fliying like in the 30s but sometimes can be also right on schedule. No worries, you know who is who.
You think that every flight time that do not fit into your agenda is suspicious, and there are a lot, but yet you have the "world's most accurate map ". Is this a scientific approach? No

Thank you for your time, have a nice week-end.

Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #350 on: February 02, 2018, 09:38:12 AM »
Reason why planes dont fly over large oceans:
ETOPS (English pronunciation: /i:ˈtʰɒps/) is an aviation acronym for Extended Operations. The term used to signify Extended Range Operation with Two-Engine Airplanes but the meaning was changed by the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) when regulations were broadened to include aircraft with more than two engines.[1] It refers to the standards and recommended practices (SARPS) issued by ICAO for aircraft (such as the Airbus A300, A310, A320, A330 and A350, the Boeing 737, 757, 767, 777, 787, the Embraer E-Jets, and the ATR 72) to fly long-distance routes that had been off-limits to twin-engined aircraft, and subsequently to extended range operations of four-engined aircraft (such as the Boeing 747-8 Intercontinental).

In aviation vernacular, the colloquial backronym is "Engines Turn Or Passengers Swim", referring to the inevitable emergency water landing of a twin engine aircraft after a double engine failure over water outside gliding range of land. But ETOPS operation has no direct correlation to water or distance over water. It refers to flight times between diversion airports, regardless as to whether such fields are separated by water or land.

There are different levels of ETOPS certification, each allowing aircraft to fly on routes that are a certain amount of single-engine flying time away from the nearest suitable airport. For example, if an aircraft is certified for 180 minutes, it is permitted to fly any route not more than 180 minutes single-engine flying time to the nearest suitable airport.

According to the FAA in the Federal Register, "This final rule applies to air carrier (part 121), commuter, and on-demand (part 135) turbine powered multi-engine airplanes used in extended-range operations. However, all-cargo operations in airplanes with more than two engines of both part 121 and part 135 are exempted from the majority of this rule. Today's rule [January 16, 2007] establishes regulations governing the design, operation and maintenance of certain airplanes operated on flights that fly long distances from an adequate airport. This final rule codifies current FAA policy, industry best practices and recommendations, as well as international standards designed to ensure long-range flights will continue to operate safely."[2] Prior to 2007, FAA defined ETOPS as "Extended Range Operations with two-engine airplanes" and applied to twins only. International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) Standard and Recommended Practice (SARP) applies only to twins and defines ETOPS as "Extended-range Twin-engine Operational Performance Standards".

ETOPS applies to twins on routes with diversion time more than 60 minutes at one-engine-inoperative speed. For rules that also cover more than two engines, as in the case of the FAA, ETOPS applies on routes with diversion time more than 180 minutes for airplanes with more than two engines.

Until the mid-1980s, the term EROPS (extended range operations) was used before being superseded by ETOPS usage. In 1997, when Boeing proposed to extend ETOPS authority for twins to beyond 180 minutes, Airbus proposed to replace ETOPS by a newer system, referred to as Long Range Operational Performance Standards (LROPS), which would affect all civil airliners, not just those with a twin-engine configuration with more than 180 minutes ETOPS. According to the FAA in 2007, "Several commenters … recommended use of the acronym "LROPS"—meaning 'Long Range Operations'—for three- and four-engine ETOPS, to avoid confusion, particularly for those operations beyond 180-minutes diversion time. The FAA has decided to use the single term, 'extended operations,' or ETOPS, for all affected operations regardless of the number of engines on the airplane."[3]

Government-owned aircraft (including military) do not have to adhere to ETOPS regulations.

Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #351 on: February 02, 2018, 10:01:07 AM »
Nice find, but not relevant. The Tahiti-Tokyo route is always at less than 2 hours from a usable airport. Not to mention that Air Tahiti Nui uses exclusively quads (A340), not affected by ETOPS 120 limitations

Please note that Intikam's excuse is
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Tahiti Pilots running close to Oceanian countries for don't be miss the route
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We are not about the same issue.

However,  this ETOPS limitation explains nicely the different times for the Sao Paolo-Johannesburg, as LaTam 767s are impacted by it.


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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #352 on: February 02, 2018, 10:42:51 AM »

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Isn't it an explanation. Are you idiot?
I don't thnk so, but I do think you are attacking the person and not the argument
How you "correct" the distance from 9.518km to 5.819km, why 5819 and not 4876 km ?
Please answer the question?

Why Tahiti-Tokyo path continues time longer than estimated:

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Why Tahiti-Tokyo path continues time longer than estimated:
Because of pilots must use GPS or navigation systems; the systems lets them a place near to Ocenian countries. They are clearly using the wrong path, like how New Zealand pilots are doing while they run to Los Angeles. Similar problem.

So you think that pilots are using GPS to navigate but fear to fly over the oceans  and have to keep some kind of visual over islands. They are almost doubling the flight time and are aware of that but no one can correct this.
They are using some hi-tech instruments but have to rely on the good old eyes to navigate.
Question: how do the find the route at night or when the groud is hidden by clouds?

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Do I have to spend my time by answering your idiotic questions? Where is the moderation? Is it a debate section?
It's up to you but, well, this subforum is called Flat Earth General, and below the title, you can read:
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For the discussion of any FE topics unrelated to Flat Earth Theory. FE conspiracy topics belong here
Noted the discussion word ? So no moderator will come to save you.

Let's sum up.
You called me a liar, and you were wrong, but cannot accept your mistake.
You cannot disprove that the flight Tahiti-Easter Island is real, trashing your South America-Polynesia -and by extension Australia- distances.
You think that pilots are sometimes lost, sometimes fearful, and fliying like in the 30s but sometimes can be also right on schedule. No worries, you know who is who.
You think that every flight time that do not fit into your agenda is suspicious, and there are a lot, but yet you have the "world's most accurate map ". Is this a scientific approach? No

Thank you for your time, have a nice week-end.

This is your end. I hope you a nice and fast end, ok?

I already explained. If you don't understand, it is your problem.

I can not tell someones unable to understand.

If this continue like this, I must continue this working in a place you can not target me by your lyings.
1+2+3+...+∞= 1

Come on bro, just admit that the the earth isn't a sphere, you won't even be wrong

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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #353 on: February 02, 2018, 12:07:31 PM »
"If this continue like this" he will finally put the whole forum on his ignore list,
including some Flat Earthers who see flaws in his work and try to help. :-)
He's errorless, like Pope...
I don't have to fight about anything.
These things are not about me.
When one points facts out, they speak for themselves.
The main goal in all that is simplicity.

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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #354 on: February 02, 2018, 04:22:22 PM »
Hey, Brotherhood of the Dome!
How's it going?

I hope your map is coming along, I'm sure it is.
Sure would like to see what you got so far.

Even a rough draft.
Or anything
At all
Show me a Flat Earth map that works.

Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #355 on: February 03, 2018, 03:06:04 AM »
"If this continue like this" he will finally put the whole forum on his ignore list,
including some Flat Earthers who see flaws in his work and try to help. :-)
He's errorless, like Pope...
Give him a chance. I am dying to see the final result! I have never seen a proper FE map and he promised that he will make one so dont upset him please!

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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #356 on: February 03, 2018, 04:00:57 AM »
I certainly hope the BTH (BroTherHood) Map is more accurate than the well known AEP.
Stick close , very close , to your P.C.and never go to sea
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And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

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Yes ! Never, never, never,  ever go to sea !

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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #357 on: February 03, 2018, 01:10:24 PM »
I'm not working on the map in weekends.

I explained that event, it is occurred by a sabotage made by NASA backed FETÖ hacker click in Turkey. Anyway. I decided do not work to map on weekend. I may continue this working in believers section. Because;

Because this working started as "common work". So I opened this topic here. But day by day, we saw that nobody contribute enough for this working. So in fact, to continue in this place is not required. Alhough I continue this working in a free place, people do not to recognize the value of it. That is, I mean, I continue in FE General longe that not required, and I'm getting unnecessary criticisms, cavalier attacks and  efforts of sabotage in the name of "helping or learning" forcing me to continue remain working in a section that I will not be disturbed.

Management was good at protecting it initially. but they started to loose afterwards. Of course, this work will already end. these blocking efforts have cause the lost a maximum of 2-3 days in total. It has been 2 months since the beginning of this work. It does not seem important  2 days. but if they go on like this, I can really think of it. then the people would say, "Look, they do not share with us, they do it on their own." I think this work should be open source. but these obstacles end up in the sense of "no you do not do this work with us, we will keep bothering you".

I usually speak very clearly, but I think what I meant is not understood at all the time by others.
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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #358 on: February 04, 2018, 09:58:01 PM »
All the Russian cities are colored as magenta. They will be re-calculated.

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Re: The world's most accurate map
« Reply #359 on: February 04, 2018, 11:06:52 PM »
St. Petersburg

St. Petersburg was not stayed in the map for preventing the density on the map. Now it will be added for a better estimation of Russian cities.

St.Petersburg   Moscow 600 641
A320 0:58 686
B738 0:58 690

St.Petersburg   Helsinki 300 382
0:41 unknown 580

St.Petersburg   Istanbul 2.098 2454
A319 3:20 825
A321 2:50 825

St.Petersburg   Amsterdam 1.776 1853
B738 2:20 823

St.Petersburg   Tel Aviv 3.113 3535
A319 4:18 852

St.Petersburg   Beijing 6.063 6274
B787 7:12 903

St.Petersburg   Barcelona 2.824 3132
A320 3:56  843
A319 3:46 843

St.Petersburg   London 2.115 2456
A320 3:04 830

There is a place inside of all circles and close to the distances fair enough.



Because of it corrects all distances, so that St.Petersburg is added as first reliable point in Russia and colored as green.

Sounds like  St.Petersburg stayed close to Tromso. So that, Tromso and Nuuk together will be edited. So that color of Tromso is temporarily changed to magenta. They will be corrected later.
1+2+3+...+∞= 1

Come on bro, just admit that the the earth isn't a sphere, you won't even be wrong