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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2017, 01:38:48 PM »
Again I commend you for your efforts to create a flat earth map.
But you are supposed to collect data and analyze it.

Nobody, myself included, is going to read each and every flight you present.
Show me a Flat Earth map that works.

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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2017, 10:44:31 PM »
Again I commend you for your efforts to create a flat earth map.
But you are supposed to collect data and analyze it.

Nobody, myself included, is going to read each and every flight you present.

Nobody is a pretentious word.


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2017, 11:50:33 AM »
This is not for you read all of them. This is the evidences of where the datas come from. It perhaps you will better understand the necessity of this in the future. especially when the objections begin.


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2017, 01:26:00 PM »
Didn't mean to be pretentious.
Good luck on your project.
Show me a Flat Earth map that works.

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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2017, 01:26:15 PM »
B772 (Boeing 777 -200)

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/B772

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ANZ52/history/20171217/2030Z/NZAA/NFFN
Direct: 2159 kms.
Times:
3:03
2:49
2:51
3:01
Average of times: 02:56

Opposite:
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ANZ53/history/20171218/0055Z/NFFN/NZAA
Times:
03:09
03:00
02:59
03:05
Average time: 03:03

Average of times: 02:59
Average speed: 2159kms/02:59 = 721 kms.
Number of considered flights: 8


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL944/history/20171217/2025Z/KORD/EDDF
Direct: 6978 kms.
Times:
08:00
08:07
08:06
07:51
07:48
08:08
07:35
08:06
08:08
08:20
08:11
08:23
08:18
Average time: 08:04

Opposite:
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL906/history/20171218/1200Z/EDDF/KORD
times:
09:34
09:05
09:39
09:20
09:11
09:19
09:15
09:26
09:16
09:14
09:32
09:31
Average time: 09:21
Average of times: 08:43
Average speed: 6978kms/08::43 = 800kmh.
Number of considered flights: 25


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL1611/history/20171217/2030Z/KORD/KEWR
Direct: 1156 kms.
Times:
01:48
02:31
02:05
02:54
02:33
02:08
02:17
02:04
02:00
02:03
02:19
Average: 2:14

Opposite:
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL977/history/20171217/1259Z/KEWR/KORD
Times:
02:38
02:34
02:30
02:09
02:30
02:05
02:35
02:21
02:29
02:21
02:22
02:22
Average: 2:24

Average of times: 02:19
Average speed: 1156kms/02:19 = 497 kms.
Number of considered flights: 23


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL169/history/20171217/1930Z/KLAX/RJAA
Direct:8764 kms.
Times:
12:27
11:54
11:24
11:56
11:44
11:29
11:39
11:54
11:59
11:34
Average: 11:48

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL170/history/20171218/0945Z/RJAA/KLAX
Times:
08:55
10:14
09:42
10:22
09:49
10:05
09:43
10:24
10:07
10:08
09:48
Average time: 09:56

Average of times: 10:52
Average speed: 8764kms/10:52 = 806 kmh.
Number of considered flights: 21


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL895/history/20171217/1925Z/KORD/VHHH
Direct: 12536 kms.
Times:
16:03
15:58
15:48
15:46
16:06
15:03
15:32
15:45
15:29
15:45
15:27

Average: 15:42

Opposite:
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL896/history/20171218/0310Z/VHHH/KORD
14:02
13:58
14:03
14:32
13:49
14:11
14:09
13:27
13:50
14:26
14:17

Average: 14:04

Average of times: 14:53
Average speed: 12536kms / 14:53 = 842 kmh.
Number of considered flights: 22


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR8960/history/20171217/0740Z/OTHH/ZSPD
Direct: 6802kms.
Times:
08:10
08:21
08:13
08:15
08:36
08:12
07:57
Average: 08:54

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR8961/history/20171217/1810Z/ZSPD/OTHH
Times:
09:56
10:58
10:44
10:31
Average: 10:32

Average of times: 09:23
Average speed: 6802kms/09:23 = 724 kmh.
Number of considered flights: 11


Total number of considered flights: (8+25+23+21+22+11)=110

Average speed of B772: (721*8+800*25+497*23+806*21+842*22+724*11)/110= 733kmh.


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2017, 01:27:34 PM »
Didn't mean to be pretentious.
Good luck on your project.

This is a common project. Everyone can join who wants.


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2017, 10:21:42 PM »
This is a common project. Everyone can join who wants.
Does "everyone" include round earth proponents like me?  I have extracted data from FlightAware for thirty different cities, each with nonstop routes to at least seven of the other cities, amounting to literally thousands of data points.  I will share the spreadsheet once I have it in a format I'm happy with.

Here's a preview of the matrix, each "X" represents a nonstop flight between the cities.


Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2017, 10:35:33 PM »
Someone beat you to it, brotherhood.

They're hyper-accurate and in real time.


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2017, 10:39:13 PM »
This is a common project. Everyone can join who wants.
Does "everyone" include round earth proponents like me?  I have extracted data from FlightAware for thirty different cities, each with nonstop routes to at least seven of the other cities, amounting to literally thousands of data points.  I will share the spreadsheet once I have it in a format I'm happy with.

Here's a preview of the matrix, each "X" represents a nonstop flight between the cities.




Thanks for your support. Surely it is not important you be rounder or flat earth believer. It was an important data.

I added your name to the bottom of the first post as one of the authors, if it not be a problem for you.

I'm waiting for your next supports.

As a suggest, Doha airport is important too. Can you add Doha Airport  (with code as OTHH) to the chart? Because, there is a flight almost everywhere from Doha. It is almost the center of the earth for aircrafts.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2017, 04:01:08 AM by brotherhood of the dome »


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2017, 04:52:15 AM »
B 748 (Boeing 747-8)

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/B748

Links:
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/KAL614/history/20171218/0725Z/VHHH/RKSI

Direct: 2072 kms.
Times:
03:41
03:25
03:51
03:44
03:26
03:24
03:45
03:41
Average: 3:37
Opposite:
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/KAL613/history/20171218/0200Z/RKSI/VHHH
times:
04:08
04:46
03:37
03:54
03:44
04:03
04:05
03:56
03:52
Average: 04:00
Average of times: 03:48

Average speed: 2072kms/03:48 = 543 kmh.
Number of considered flights: 17


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH490/history/20171218/0930Z/EDDF/KSEA
Direct: 8206kms
Times:
10:05
10:27
09:58
09:40
09:53
09:57
09:44
10:06
10:20
10:01
09:59
10:07

Average time:10:01

Opposite:
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH491/history/20171218/2205Z/KSEA/EDDF
Times:
09:43
09:27
09:31
09:41
09:38
09:50
09:40
09:34
09:30
09:37
09:51
09:59
09:34

Average time:09:39

Average of times: 09:50
Average speed: 8206kms/09:50= 834 kms.
Number of considered flights: 25


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH430/history/20171218/0940Z/EDDF/KORD
Direct: 6978 kms.
Times:
09:08
09:08
09:13
09:03
08:59
09:02
08:57
09:28
09:10
09:23
09:34
09:10
09:39

Average time:09:13

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH431/history/20171218/2220Z/KORD/EDDF
Times:
08:11
07:18
07:48
07:50
07:40
07:31
07:35
07:45
07:50
07:30
07:48
08:10
08:21
08:02

Average time:07:48
Average of times: 08:30
Average speed: 6978kms/08:30 = 819 kms.
Number of considered flights: 27


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH440/history/20171218/0850Z/EDDF/KIAH
Direct:8412 kms.
Times:
11:10
11:03
10:50

Average time: 11:01

Opposite:
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH441/history/20171218/2210Z/KIAH/EDDF
Times:
09:29
09:14
09:16

Average time: 09:19
Average of times: 10:10

Average speed: 8412kms/10:10= 827 kms.
Number of considered flights: 6


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/KAL671/history/20171218/0750Z/RKSI/WMKK
Direct: 4619kms.
Times:
06:23
06:19
06:18
06:15
05:54
06:15
06:30
06:26
06:29
06:51
06:23

Average time:06:22

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/KAL672/history/20171218/1559Z/WMKK/RKSI
Times:
06:25
06:34
06:28
06:23
06:11
06:28
06:11
06:12
06:11
06:29
06:36

Average time:06:22
Average of times: 06:22
Average speed: 4619kms/06:22 = 725 kms.
Number of considered flights: 22


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA985/history/20171218/0800Z/ZBAA/KSFO
Direct: 9504 kms.
Times:
10:11
10:58
10:50
11:10
11:15
12:34
11:36
11:21
11:14
12:08

Average time:11:19

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA986/history/20171217/2150Z/KSFO/ZBAA
Times:
12:07
11:38
11:57
11:50
11:53
12:01
11:58
11:33
11:58
11:46
12:05

Average times:11:53
Average of times: 11:36
Average speed: 9504kms/11:36= 819 kms.
Number of considered flights: 21


Total number of flights: 118
Average speed of B748 = (17x543+25x834+27x819+6x827+22x725+21x819)/118= 765 kms.


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #40 on: December 18, 2017, 05:48:16 AM »
Someone beat you to it, brotherhood.

They're hyper-accurate and in real time.



Thank you for this link!  Thatís a fantastic visualization, and it fills in some gaps in my southern hemisphere coverage.  I'm going to add Luanda (Angola, west coast of Africa) and French Polynesia (east of Auckland).
« Last Edit: December 18, 2017, 01:37:54 PM by Sam Hill »

Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2017, 08:12:52 AM »
As a suggest, Doha airport is important too. Can you add Doha Airport  (with code as OTHH) to the chart? Because, there is a flight almost everywhere from Doha. It is almost the center of the earth for aircrafts.
Thank you for the suggestion.  I had considered Doha, but chose Dubai instead as a better connected airport.  There are several key airports to which Doha does not have non-stop flights.  Bold cities are in my matrix, non-bold are not well enough connected to make the primary list:
  • Mauritius (FIMP)
  • Dakar (GOOY)
  • Cairo (CAI)
  • Lisbon (LIS)
  • Toronto (YYZ)

There are a couple of airports connected to Doha but not to Dubai:
  • Helsinki (HEL)
  • Atlanta (ATL)

I will keep Doha on my list as a second choice from the region.  As I add more airports, maybe Doha will earn a spot in the matrix.  (Earning a spot on the list is a function of several factors: the number of far-away airports that a candidate connects to, how many connections-in-common it shares with those other airports, and how far away the airport is from others.  Perth and Mauritius do not connect to a huge number of other airports, but they are remote from a lot of them and thus provide a good data point.  There are a lot of highly connected airports in Europe that I am not including because they're all pretty close to each other.  I chose Madrid over the slightly better connected Paris, for example, to extend the spread as far west as I could) 
« Last Edit: December 18, 2017, 08:25:30 AM by Sam Hill »

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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2017, 12:38:43 AM »
A346
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/A346

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/SAA190/history/20171219/0740Z/FAOR/FIMP
Direct: 3071 kms
Times:
03:53
03:50
03:42
03:46

Average time: 03:47

Opposite:
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/SAA191/history/20171219/1240Z/FIMP/FAOR
Times:
04:17
04:30
04:37
04:58

Average time:04:35

Average of times: 04:11
Average speed:3071kms/04:11= 732 kms.
Number of considered flights:8


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR654/history/20171219/0610Z/OTHH/VCBI
Direct: 3615 kms.
Times:
04:55
04:55
05:03
04:49
04:52
04:34
05:03
04:55
04:52

Average time: 04:53

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR655/history/20171219/1450Z/VCBI/OTHH
Times:
05:07
05:18
05:17
05:23
05:14
05:18
05:26
05:02
05:03
04:55

Average time:05:12

Average of times:05:02
Average speed: 3615kms/05:02 = 717kmh.
Number of considered flights: 19


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR131/history/20171219/0520Z/OTHH/LIRF
Direct: 4043 kms.
Times:
06:28
06:09
06:15
06:48
06:18
06:22
06:19
06:38
06:51
06:24
06:44
06:13
06:30

Average time:06:27

Opposite:
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR132/history/20171219/1505Z/LIRF/OTHH
Times:
05:40
05:30
05:20
05:34
05:27
05:38
05:25
05:29
05:15
05:13
05:36
05:36
05:45

Average time:05:29

Average of times:05:58
Average speed: 4043kms/05:58=676kmh.
Number of considered flights:26


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH459/history/20171219/0525Z/KSFO/EDDM
Direct:9447kms.
Times:
11:03
11:05
11:10
11:10
11:26
11:09
11:25
11:24
11:33
11:20
11:22
11:29
11:24

Average time:11:18
Opposite:
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH458/history/20171218/1515Z/EDDM/KSFO
Times:
12:07
11:43
12:04
12:03
11:54
11:24
11:38
11:39
12:13
11:55
11:46
11:41
12:13

Average time:11:52
Average of times:11:35
Average speed: 9447kms/11:35=815kmh.
Number of considered flights:26


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH435/history/20171219/0325Z/KORD/EDDM
Direct:7278kms
Times:
08:38
08:17
08:24
08:27
08:35
08:12
08:17
08:16
08:02
07:57
08:19
08:33
08:36

Average time:08:21

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH434/history/20171219/1445Z/EDDM/KORD
Times:
09:46
10:31
10:19
09:55
09:40
09:53
09:27
09:30
09:36
10:07
11:15
10:03
10:08
10:09

Average time:10:01
Average of times:09:11
Average speed: 7278kms/09:11=792kmh.
Number of considered flights:27


Total considered flights: (8+19+26+26+27)=106

Average speed of A346= (732x8+717x19+676x26+815x26+792x27)/106= 751kmh.


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2017, 01:56:21 AM »
A321
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/A321

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/THY1988/history/20171219/0755Z/EGLL/LTBA
Direct:2517kms.
Times:
03:46
03:40
03:48
03:52
03:46
04:05
03:52

Average time:03:49

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/THY1987/history/20171219/1810Z/LTBA/EGLL
Times:
04:04
04:37
04:11
04:18
04:22
04:32
04:42
04:15

Average time:04:22
Average of times: 04:06
Average speed:2517kms/04:06=613kmh.
Number of considered flights: 15


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/WZZ2202/history/20171219/0815Z/EGGW/LHBP
Direct: 1493kms.
Times:
02:12
02:01
02:03
02:02
01:54
02:00
01:55
02:37
02:13
01:59
01:52
02:02
02:02

Average time:02:04

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/WZZ2201/history/20171220/0500Z/LHBP/EGGW
Times:
02:12
02:12
02:14
02:21
02:19
02:26
02:19
02:17
02:26
02:17
02:32
02:18
02:11

Average time:02:18
Average of times:02:11
Average speed: 1493kms/02:11=682kmh.
Number of considered flights: 26


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/THY1823/history/20171219/0810Z/LTBA/LFPG
Direct:2239kms.
Times:
03:30
03:42
03:49
03:46
03:51
03:29
04:04
04:21
03:48
03:45

Average time:03:40

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/THY1824/history/20171219/1250Z/LFPG/LTBA
Times:
03:45
03:20
03:10
03:09
03:51
03:51
03:04
04:10
03:45
03:28

Average time:03:33
Average of times: 3:40
Average speed: 2239kms/3:40=608 kmh.
Number of considered flights: 20


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/THY2225/history/20171219/0915Z/LTAJ/LTBA
Direct: 872kms
Times:
01:49
01:48
01:39
01:51
01:45
01:58
01:48

Average time: 1:40

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/OHY48/history/20171219/2055Z/LTBA/LTAJ
Times:
01:30
01:30
01:30
01:42
01:30
01:42
01:30
01:29

Average time:01:32
Average of times:01:40
Average speed:872kms/01:40= 520kmh.
Number of considered flights: 15


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL560/history/20171222/2250Z/KDFW/KPHL
Direct:2095kms
Times:
02:12
02:50
02:24
02:50
02:23
02:51
02:10
02:50
02:24
02:41
02:21
03:03
02:11
02:52
02:25
03:17
02:29
02:52
02:15

Average time: 02:35

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL1653/history/20171224/0125Z/KPHL/KDFW
Times:
04:31
03:50
03:40
04:43
03:52
03:57
03:50
04:56
03:54
03:56
03:48
03:56

Average time:04:04

Average of times:03:20
Average speed:2095kms/03:20= 628 kmh.
Number of considered flight:31



Total number of considered flights:107

Average speed of A321 = (613x15+682x26+608x20+520x15+628x31)/107= 628 kmh.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2017, 07:10:03 PM by brotherhood of the dome »


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2017, 02:49:45 AM »
B764

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/B764

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL18/history/20171219/0925Z/LIMC/KEWR
Direct:6443 kms.
Times:
08:59
09:11
09:43
09:35
09:51
09:47
09:53
09:49
09:45
09:54
09:35

Average time:09:38

Opposite:https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL19/history/20171218/2325Z/KEWR/LIMC
Times:
08:00
08:02
07:36
07:30
07:23
07:15
06:59
07:54
07:44
07:16

Average time:07:33
Average of times:08:36
Average speed:6443kms/08:36= 749 kmh.
Number of considered flights: 21


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL150/history/20171219/0705Z/SPJC/KATL
Direct:5141kms.
Times:
06:47
06:50
06:31
06:38
06:47
06:40
06:25
06:41
06:14
06:20

Average time: 06:35

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL151/history/20171218/2253Z/KATL/SPJC
Times:
06:20
06:26
06:24
06:28
06:28
06:21
06:09
06:41
06:36
06:44

Average time:06:27
Average of times: 06:31
Average speed: 5141kms/06:31=787kmh.
Number of considered flights:20


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL197/history/20171219/0433Z/KMCO/SBGR
Direct:6876kms.
Times:
08:33
08:44
08:13
08:31
08:32
08:28

Average time: 08:30

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL196/history/20171220/0155Z/SBGR/KMCO
Times:
09:38
09:09
09:05
09:04
08:49
09:11

Average time: 09:09kms.
Average of times: 08:49
Average speed: 6876kms/08:49=779kmh.
Number of considered flights: 12


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL84/history/20171219/0359Z/KATL/LFPG
Direct:7064kms.
Times:
08:25
08:26
07:54
07:56
07:37
08:13
07:49
08:34
07:46
08:19
08:27

Average time: 08:07

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL85/history/20171219/1420Z/LFPG/KATL
Times:
07:43
09:50
10:09
09:58
10:02
09:40
09:59
09:22
10:39
10:26
10:13
09:41

Average time:09:48
Average of times:08:58
Average speed:7064kms/08:58= 788kmh.
Number of considered flights:23


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL362/history/20171219/0220Z/PHNL/KEWR
Direct: 7982km.
Times:
09:25
09:10
09:12
09:17
09:35
09:30
09:37
09:28
09:21

Average time: 09:23

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL363/history/20171218/1335Z/KEWR/PHNL
Times:
10:53
10:51
10:33
10:45
10:49
10:52
10:58
10:18
11:00
10:49

Average time:10:46
Average of times:10:05
Average speed: 7982kms/10:05= 791kmh.
Number of considered flights: 19


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL131/history/20171219/0955Z/EDDM/KATL
Direct: 7710kms.
Times:
11:05
10:30
10:22
10:44
10:44
11:04
11:18
10:46
11:05
10:55
11:04

Average time: 10:52

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL130/history/20171218/2258Z/KATL/EDDM
Times:
08:58
08:46
08:21
08:44
08:49
08:18
08:17
09:10
08:01
09:13
08:29
09:01
09:09

Average time: 08:42
Average of times: 09:47
Average speed: 7710kms/09:47=787kmh.
Number of considered flights:24


Total considered number of flights: 119

Average speed of B764 = (749x21+787x20+779x12+788x23+791x19+787x24)/119= 780kmh.


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2017, 11:01:20 AM »
It appears that you are using the distances found at FlightAware to calculate your speeds.  If those distances are accurate, why not just use them directly instead?

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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2017, 11:44:03 PM »
It appears that you are using the distances found at FlightAware to calculate your speeds.  If those distances are accurate, why not just use them directly instead?

Because the speed which is written in the page does not overlap with the value of Distance/time.


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #47 on: December 20, 2017, 12:11:27 AM »
There should be a lower and upper limit for speed of airplanes, according to our calculations.

For example:

We pre accept the values about speeds/number of repeat as follow:

400kmhx10
500kmhx20
500kmhx20
600kmhx10

In this example, we consider the average speed as 500kmh. But as a better estimation, one of the highest or lowest value may be wrong. Because after the 500kmh is calculated, we'll use this value instead of 400kmh and 600kmh. But 400kmh isin't the lovest value. For calculating lovest value, one of them should be erased and other one can be calculated; as follow:

Considered values should be for maximum speed limit:

Average of:
500x20
500x20
600x10

= 520kmh.

And

Considered values should be for minimal speed limit:
400x10
500x20
500x20

=480kmh.

This is better estimation using (480,520) as peak points than use (400; 600) per as minimal and maximum values.

Basicly, it seems consider +-5% is enough to fulfill the mistakens.

So;

After speeds are calculated, like this example, the peak points will be added.


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #48 on: December 20, 2017, 04:43:10 AM »
A318

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/A318

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR1566/history/20171220/1140Z/LFPG/LIRQ
Direct:880kms.
Times:
01:52
01:44
01:42
01:34
01:35
01:46
01:44
02:07
01:37
01:31
01:34
01:39
Average: 1:42

Opposite:
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR1567/history/20171220/1415Z/LIRQ/LFPG
Times:
02:27
01:36
01:39
01:44
01:50
01:54
01:37
01:50
01:53
01:46
01:45
01:24

Average time:1:47
Average of times:1:44
Average speed: 880kms/1:44=505 kmh.
Number of considered flights: 24


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/AVA9429/history/20171220/1031Z/SKCC/SKCL
Direct: 402kms. (*corrected)
Times:
00:49
00:53
00:47
01:04
00:38
00:47
00:52
00:46
00:45
00:32

Average time: 00:47

Opposite:
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/AVA9428/history/20171221/0101Z/SKBO/SKCC
Times:
00:43
00:41
00:44
00:40
00:40

Average time:0:41
Average of times:0:44
Average speed: 402kms/0:44=548kmh. *corrected
Number of considered flights:15


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ROT302/history/20171220/1015Z/EDDF/LROP
Direct: 1454 kms.
Times:
02:35
02:26
02:23
02:30
02:18
02:17
02:20
02:38
02:25
03:05
02:27

Average time:02:29

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ROT301/history/20171220/0640Z/LROP/EDDF
Times: 02:13
02:30
02:19
02:44
02:48
02:48
02:33
02:32
02:34
02:45
02:28
02:35

Average time: 02:34
Average of times: 02:31
Average speed: 1454kms/02:31= 575 kmh.
Number of considered flights:23


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR1850/history/20171220/1120Z/LFPG/EKCH
Direct:1006 kms.
Times:
02:12
02:10
01:52
01:51
01:42
01:42
01:38
01:43
01:42
Average time: 1:50

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR1851/history/20171220/1405Z/EKCH/LFPG
Times:
02:02
01:37
01:58
01:50
01:55
01:57
01:40
01:57

Average time: 01:52
Average of times: 01:51
Average speed: 1006kms/01:51= 543kms.
Number of considered flights: 17


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ROT391/history/20171220/1030Z/LROP/EGLL
Direct:2108kms
Times:
03:20
03:26
03:32
03:44
03:49
03:54
03:51
03:22
03:42
03:24
03:31

Average time: 03:35

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ROT392/history/20171220/1450Z/EGLL/LROP
Times:
03:20
03:25
03:24
03:11
03:06
03:16
03:11
03:26
03:24
03:03
03:17

Average time: 03:16
Average of times: 03:26
Average speed: 2108kms/03:26=613 kmh.
Number of considered flights:22


Total number of considered flights: 101

Average speed of A318 = (505x24+548x15+575x23+543x17x613x22)/101 = 557kmh. *corrected
« Last Edit: December 21, 2017, 04:28:09 PM by brotherhood of the dome »


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2017, 05:50:27 AM »
B77W

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/B77W

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR946/history/20171221/1235Z/LFPG/MUHA
Direct: 7752kms.
Times:
09:47
09:50
10:26
10:39
10:17
10:12
10:41
11:02
10:23
10:06
10:33
10:07
10:09

Average time: 10:19

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR943/history/20171221/0355Z/MUHA/LFPG
Times:
08:10
08:35
08:12
09:03
08:33
08:44
07:54
07:49
08:34
08:30
08:22
08:32
08:30
08:25

Average time:08:25
Average of times:09:22
Average speed: 7752kms/09:22= 827 kmh.
Number of considered flights: 27


https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/UAE730/history/20171221/1225Z/HUEN/OMDB
Direct: 3735 kms.
Time:
05:05
04:55
04:58
05:12
05:26
05:29
05:13
05:22
05:28
05:18
05:14

Average time: 05:14

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/UAE729/history/20171221/0525Z/OMDB/HUEN
Time:
05:28
05:32
05:12
05:25
05:19
05:34
05:16
05:20
05:09
04:56
05:03
05:06

Average time:05:16
Average of times:05:15
Average speed: 3735kms/05:15=710 kmh.
Number of considered flights: 23


https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR54/history/20171221/1240Z/LFPG/KIAD
Direct: 6204 kms.
Times:
08:23
08:37
08:21
08:30
09:27
08:46
08:52
08:54
09:12
08:46
08:40
09:53

Average time:08:51

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR55/history/20171220/2335Z/KIAD/LFPG
Times:
07:14
07:08
07:12
07:35
07:28
08:09
07:28
07:09
06:50
06:38
07:08
06:53
06:59

Average time: 07:13
Average of times: 08:02
Average speed:6204kms/ 08:02= 772kmh.
Number of considered flights:25


https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/JAI234/history/20171221/1110Z/EHAM/CYYZ
Direct: 5997kms.
Times:
08:20
08:20
08:06
07:58
08:06
08:20
08:11
08:33
08:29
08:02
08:38

Average time:08:16

Opposite:  https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/JAI233/history/20171220/2340Z/CYYZ/EHAM
Times:
07:21
07:18
07:25
07:29
07:03
07:28
07:10
07:03
06:25
06:55
06:52

Average time: 07:08
Average speed: 5997kms/07:08= 778kmh.
Number of considered flights: 22


https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/KAL35/history/20171223/0035Z/RKSI/KATL
Direct: 11500kms.
Times:
13:27
13:00
13:09
13:05
12:47
12:38
12:49
12:58
13:14
13:10
13:48

Average time: 13:05

Opposite: https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/KAL36/history/20171222/1655Z/KATL/RKSI
Times:
15:07
14:48
14:38
15:01
14:52
15:03
15:04
14:42
15:19
15:04
14:04

Average time: 14:52
Average of times: 13:59
Average speed: 11500km s/ 13:59= 822kmh.
Number of considered flights: 22


Total considered number of flights: 119

Average speed of B77W = (827x27+710x23+772x25+778x22+822x22)/119= 783 kmh.
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #50 on: December 21, 2017, 10:12:35 AM »
lmfao....We "feel the distance to be shorter". 

The measurement is still the same.  You travel at a certain speed over a certain time period and there is your distance.  This is not even remotely complicated...just look at one of the already existing maps that are already verified to be accurate...you can verify the distances yourself.

You are never actually goinxg to create a map this way.  You can't delete reality the same as you can delete comments that destroy your theory.

It seems a tremendous waste of time.Most, if not all, of this has already been done.
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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #51 on: December 21, 2017, 03:51:23 PM »
I remind todays proverb was: "Dogs bark but the caravan goes on."" (Turkish proverb).


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #52 on: December 21, 2017, 04:51:28 PM »
You all are understand nothing about my working.

Lets look it together whats happening:

This is a route:

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/CES2598/history/20171213/0810Z/VTCT/ZPPP
Google claims the distance between these two Chinese cities is: 654 kms.
Average speed of a B735 in this route is: 413 kmh. Average flying time with this airplane is: 01:35

This is another direction runned with same aircraft: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UTA234/history/20171213/0530Z/USMU/USTR
Google claims this distance is 1148 kms.
Average speed of a B735 between these Russian cities is: 682kmh. And average flying time with this airplane is: 01:41

Lets examine whats happening?

This is the average speed of this aircraft: 533kmh.

As we clearly that, the average flight time with same type of aircraft is about same: (01:35 and 01:41). But google claims one of distance of two Chinese cities as 682kms and the other one the distance between two Russian cities as 1148kms. Now we'll correct it by accepting speeds equally as:

The real distance of Chinese cities: 01:35x533kmh = 843 km (google claims 654 kms, 22% less)
The real distance of Russian cities: 01:41x533kmh= 897kms. (google claims 1148 kms, 28% more)

As we clearly see that, google claims the distances in Russia and Chinia as increasing the size of Russia about 50% more than China according to the reality. I mean, in fact, distance in China should be 50% more according to distances in Russia. If we calculate it for convert distances to areas; 1,5^2 =%225

This means, China should be %225 increased according to Russia.

If we calculate them one by one:

Russia should be the area of: 0,72^2 (google's mistake) * 17.100.000km^2 (Russia's size) = 8865 km^2 (about half of Russia in the map)
China should be the area of: 1,22^2 (google's mistake) * 9.597 km (China's size) = 14.284 km^2

So tell me, in fact which country is bigger, Russia or China?

You may not see this reality in neither a round, nor a flat model.

You are talking that this working already done. So tell me, how the fking workers doesn't aware of China in fact is bigger than Russia about 2 times more as size. Tell me, are all of the Geographic workers are fking idiots, or s.ow's??

We'll correct the mistakes of all of these s.o.w's.


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #53 on: December 22, 2017, 12:36:34 AM »
A388

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/A388

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/SIA26/history/20171222/0720Z/EDDF/KJFK
Direct: 6195kms.
Times:
08:48
08:38
08:55
08:17
08:42
08:49
08:31
08:54
09:08
08:54
09:04
08:57
08:50

Average time: 08:48

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/SIA25/history/20171223/0115Z/KJFK/EDDF
Times:
07:11
07:25
07:30
07:47
07:16
06:34
07:19
07:31
07:08
06:40
07:07
06:02
07:05

Average time: 07:07
Average of times:07:57
Average speed:6195kms/07:57= 778 kms.
Number of considered flights: 26


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/SIA26/history/20171220/1555Z/WSSS/EDDF
Direct: 10292 kms.
Times:
12:58
12:42
13:14
13:19
13:06
12:45
13:05
13:17
12:59
12:55
13:00
13:12
12:48

Average time: 13:01

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/SIA25/history/20171222/1040Z/EDDF/WSSS
Times:
11:49
12:18
12:00
12:03
12:14
12:27
12:09
12:17
12:29
12:08
11:53
12:18

Average time: 12:10
Average of times: 12:35
Average speed:10292kms/12:35= 817 kmh.
Number of considered flights:25


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/AAR203/history/20171222/0700Z/KLAX/RKSI
Direct: 9636kms.
Times:
14:08
14:27
13:21
13:41
13:42
13:37
13:10
12:55
13:04
13:03
13:04

Average time:13:28

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/AAR204/history/20171222/1140Z/RKSI/KLAX
Times:
10:47
11:24
10:48
10:55
10:34
10:30
11:42
10:44
10:47
11:08
11:00
11:15

Average time: 10:57
Average of times: 12:13
Average speed: 9636 /12:13= 789 kmh.
Number of considered flights: 23


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UAE406/history/20171222/0605Z/OMDB/YMML
Direct: 11658kms.
13:01
12:59
13:03
13:25
12:46
12:52
12:49
13:03
12:48
13:28
13:11
Average time: 13:02

Opposite:https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UAE407/history/20171222/1130Z/YMML/OMDB
Times:
13:33
13:43
13:43
13:57
14:07
13:39
13:38
13:56
13:48
14:41
13:54
13:31

Average time: 13:50
Average of times:13:26
Average speed: 11658kms/13:26=867 kmh.
Number of considered flights: 23


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ETD450/history/20171221/0515Z/OMAA/YSSY
Direct: 12.075kms.
Times:
13:56
13:55
13:44
14:03

Average time: 13:54

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ETD451/history/20171223/0520Z/YSSY/OMAA
Times:
14:17
14:13
14:35
14:15

Average time: 14:20
Average of times: 14:07
Average speed: 12075kms/14:07= 855 kmh.
Number of considered flights: 8


Total considered number of flights: 105

Average speed of A388 = (778x26+817x25+789x23+867x23+855x8)/105= 815 kmh.


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #54 on: December 22, 2017, 05:33:30 AM »
Global Chinese map is completely wrong. Distances seems on map about 20-50% less than reality. So speeds seem very few. This situation is changing the real speed of airplane. So distances inside China will not be considered. We'll retroactive corrections on calculated speeds, which contains flights inside China, soon.


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #55 on: December 22, 2017, 06:01:26 AM »
B789

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/B789

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA26/history/20171222/0950Z/ZSPD/CYVR
Direct: 9027kms.
Times:
09:43
10:11
10:12
10:09
11:05
10:09
09:32
10:35
10:00
10:32
10:30

Average time:10:14

Opposite:https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA25/history/20171222/2020Z/CYVR/ZSPD
Times:
12:11
12:51
11:48
12:06
12:02
11:47
11:53
12:48
11:47
11:19
11:35

Average time:12:00
Average of times: 11:07
Average speed:9027kms/11:07= 811 kmh.
Number of considered flights:22


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA847/history/20171222/1050Z/EDDM/CYYZ
Direct: 6649kms
Times:
08:56
09:02
08:54
08:53
09:09
08:57
08:49
08:49
08:54
08:56
09:01

Average time: 08:56

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA846/history/20171222/0120Z/CYYZ/EDDM
Times:
08:14
07:23
07:32
07:48
07:44
07:44
08:00
07:39
07:50
07:19
07:37
07:28

Average time:07:41
Average of times: 08:18
Average speed: 6649kms/08:18= 800kmh.
Number of considered flights:23


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ETD485/history/20171222/1259Z/YBBN/OMAA
Direct: 12025kms.

Times:
14:09
13:52
13:43
14:05
14:14
14:13
14:14
14:12
14:07
14:02

Average time:14:05

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ETD484/history/20171221/1740Z/OMAA/YBBN
Times:
13:54
13:44
13:35
14:00
13:42
13:46
13:31
13:16
13:21
13:32
13:41

Average time:13:38
Average of times: 13:51
Average speed:12025 kms/13:51= 867 kmh.
Number of considered flights:21


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL199/history/20171222/1225Z/ZSPD/KLAX
Direct:  10429 kms.
Times:
11:39
10:54
10:56
10:45
10:50
10:34
10:55
11:15
11:10
11:22
11:18

Average time:11:03

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL198/history/20171222/2030Z/KLAX/ZSPD
Times:
13:52
14:22
13:53
13:47
13:34
14:00
13:22
13:52
13:19
13:38
13:55

Average time: 13:46
Average of times: 12:25
Average speed: = 10429kms/12:25= 840 kmh.
Number of considered flights: 22


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ANZ282/history/20171222/1215Z/NZAA/WSSS
Direct: 8419kms.
Times:
10:17
10:08
09:55
10:08
10:18
10:07
10:20
10:11
10:07
09:44
09:56

Average time: 10:06

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ANZ281/history/20171223/0055Z/WSSS/NZAA
Times:
09:41
09:45
09:38
09:56
09:51
09:46
09:52
09:39
09:42
09:49
09:29
09:14

Average time: 09:41
Average of times: 09:54
Average speed: 8419kms/09:54= 850kmh.
Number of considered flights: 23


Total number of considered flights: 111

Average speed of B789 = (811x22+800x23+867x21+840x22+850x23)/111= 833kmh.

(None of Inside China flights considered)


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #56 on: December 22, 2017, 08:44:56 PM »
A306

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/A306

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS741/history/20171223/0341Z/KTUL/KSDF
Direct: 926 kms.
01:07
01:19
01:08
01:16
01:09
01:15
01:14
Average time: 01:12

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS742/history/20171223/0956Z/KSDF/KTUL
Times:
01:37
01:25
01:26
01:33
01:32
01:27
01:21
01:20

Average time: 01:27
Average of times: 01:20
Average speed: 926kms/01:20= 694kms
Number of considered flights: 15


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS713/history/20171223/0200Z/KDFW/KSDF
Direct: 1180kms.
Times:
01:30
01:25
01:35
01:39

Average time:01:32

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS756/history/20171222/0340Z/KSDF/KDFW
Times:
01:51
01:44
01:59
01:52
01:53

Average time:01:51
Average of times: 01:42
Average speed: 1180kms/ 01:42=694kmh
Number of considered flights: 9


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS301/history/20171223/0348Z/KAUS/KSDF
Direct:  1411 kms
Times:
01:56
01:43
01:53
01:51
01:41
01:36
01:43
02:07
01:48
01:44

Average time: 01:48

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS300/history/20171222/0930Z/KSDF/KAUS
Times:
02:15
02:01
02:12
02:10
02:22
02:24
02:00
02:02
01:58
02:09

Average time:02:09
Average of times:01:58
Average speed: 1411kms/01:58=713 kmh.
Number of considered flights: 20


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/FDX1303/history/20171223/0342Z/KMDT/KMEM
Direct: 1296 kms.
Times:
02:27
02:08
02:14
02:21
01:53
02:05
02:10
01:55
02:04

Average time:02:08

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/FDX1571/history/20171223/1026Z/KMEM/KMDT
Times:
01:30
01:37

Average time: 01:33
Average of times: 01:51
Average speed: 1296kms/01:51= 700kmh.
Number of considered flights: 11


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS907/history/20171223/0321Z/KBUR/KSDF
Direct: 2948kms
Times:
03:21
03:16
03:41
03:48
03:25
03:35
03:35
03:36
03:40
03:40
03:39

Average time:03:34

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS914/history/20171223/0949Z/KSDF/KBUR
Times:
04:04
04:20
04:01
04:05
04:05
03:55
03:45
03:56
03:48
03:46
03:54

Average time:03:58
Average of times:03:46
Average speed: 2948kms/03:46= 782kmh.
Number of considered flights: 22


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS955/history/20171223/0330Z/KMHR/KRFD
Direct: 2745kms
Times:
03:07
02:59
03:05
03:13
03:27
03:11
03:31
03:26

Average time:03:14

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS2038/history/20171221/1647Z/KRFD/KMHR
Times:
03:34
04:02
03:44
03:28
03:44
03:30

Average time: 3:40
Average of times: 3:27
Average speed: 2745kms/3:27= 793kmh.
Number of considered flights:  14


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/FDX1679/history/20171223/0406Z/KIAD/KIND
Direct: 765kms.
Times:
01:26
01:17
01:29
01:20
01:22
01:26
01:46
01:18
01:18

Average time:1:24

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/FDX1755/history/20171223/0934Z/KIND/KIAD
Times:
01:00
01:04
01:00
00:57
00:57
01:00
01:01
01:04
01:02

Average time:01:00
Average of times: 01:12
Average speed: 765kms/01:12=632kmh.
Number of considered flights: 18


Total number of considered flights: 104

Average speed of A306 = (694x15+694x9+713x20+700x11+782x22+793x14+632x13)104= 722 kmh.


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #57 on: December 23, 2017, 03:56:21 AM »
A332

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/A332

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/CFG168/history/20171223/1045Z/EDDL/MDPC
Direct: 7389kms.
Time:
09:31
09:52
10:01
09:37

Average time: 09:45

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/CFG169/history/20171221/2250Z/MDPC/EDDL
Time:
08:53
08:35
08:33
08:13

Average time:08:33
Average of times: 09:09
Average speed:7389kms/09:09= 807kms
Number of considered flights: 8


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/HAL452/history/20171223/1057Z/YSSY/PHNL
Direct: 8180kms

Times:
09:22
09:54
10:00
09:24
09:12
09:28
09:42
09:50
09:46
09:43
09:30

Average time: 09:37

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/HAL451/history/20171223/2200Z/PHNL/YSSY
Time:
10:31
10:34
10:23
10:48
10:57
11:00
10:58
10:18
10:23
10:33
10:23

Average time: 10:37
Average of times: 10:07
Average speed:8180kms/10:07=808kms.
Number of considered flights:22



https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA111/history/20171223/1122Z/YPPH/NZAA
Direct: 5343kms
Time: 05:46
05:51
06:04
06:25
Average time:06:01

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA112/history/20171223/0530Z/NZAA/YPPH
Time:
07:47
07:42
07:05

Average time: 07:31
Average of times: 06:46
Average speed:5343kms/06:46= 789kmh.
Number of considered flights: 7


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TAP81/history/20171223/1035Z/LPPR/SBGR
Direct: 8190 kms
Time:
10:55
10:40
10:29
Average time:10:41

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TAP80/history/20171216/2255Z/SBGR/LPPR
Time: 10:12
09:57
09:58

Average time:10:02
Average of times: 10:21
Average speed: 8190kms/10:21=790kms.
Number of considered flights: 6


Links(Aircrafts constantly are taking different flight numbers in this route. So I collected them)

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TSC611/history/20171224/1045Z/LFPG/CYUL
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TSC397/history/20171221/1045Z/LFPG/CYUL
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TSC211/history/20171220/1045Z/LFPG/CYUL
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TSC125/history/20171220/0845Z/LFPG/CYUL
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TSC111/history/20171219/1045Z/LFPG/CYUL
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TSC711/history/20171218/1045Z/LFPG/CYUL
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TSC611/history/20171217/1045Z/LFPG/CYUL

Direct: 5530kms
Time:
08:18
07:34
08:06
08:15
08:21
07:37
08:21
08:08
07:48
08:18

Average time: 08:04

Opposite:
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TSC610/history/20171224/0200Z/CYUL/LFPG
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TSC136/history/20171223/2350Z/CYUL/LFPG
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TSC510/history/20171223/0200Z/CYUL/LFPG
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TSC134/history/20171222/2345Z/CYUL/LFPG
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TSC126/history/20171221/2345Z/CYUL/LFPG
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TSC396/history/20171221/0200Z/CYUL/LFPG
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TSC210/history/20171220/0200Z/CYUL/LFPG
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TSC124/history/20171219/2345Z/CYUL/LFPG
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TSC110/history/20171219/0200Z/CYUL/LFPG
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TSC710/history/20171218/0200Z/CYUL/LFPG
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TSC610/history/20171217/0200Z/CYUL/LFPG

Time:
06:37
06:16
07:13
06:22
06:38
06:48
06:45
06:02
07:13
05:59
06:29
06:38
06:42
06:37

Average time: 06:35
Average of times: 07:20
Average speed: 5530kms/07:20= 754 kmh
Number of considered flights: 24


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL735/history/20171223/1035Z/EGCC/KPHL
Direct: 5517kms.
Time:
07:59
07:55
07:45
07:47
07:48
08:00
08:03
07:59
07:55
08:06
08:14
08:45
08:19

Average time: 08:02

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL734/history/20171223/0200Z/KPHL/EGCC
Time:
06:20
06:41
06:43
06:47
07:01
07:01
06:44
06:30
06:45
06:52
06:27
06:09
07:20
06:10

Average time: 06:40
Average of times: 07:21
Average speed: 5517kms/07:21= 749kmh.
Number of considered flights: 27


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/AZU8751/history/20171223/1005Z/LPPT/SBKP
Direct: 7938kms.
Time:
10:06
10:16
10:11
10:27
10:28
10:28
10:25
10:10
09:31
10:23

Average time: 10:14

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/AZU8750/history/20171222/2015Z/SBKP/LPPT
Time:
09:38
09:47
09:47
09:54
09:38
09:22
09:53
09:33
09:53
09:53
09:27

Average time: 09:42
Average of times: 09:58
Average speed: 7938kms/09:58= 796kmh
Number of considered flights: 21


Total number of considered flights: 115

Average speed of A332 = (807x8+808x22+789x7+790x6+754x24+749x27+796x21)/115= 779 kmh.


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #58 on: December 23, 2017, 06:03:25 PM »
A319

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/A319

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL1505/history/20171224/0045Z/KDEN/KCLT
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/FFT200/history/20171224/0705Z/KDEN/KCLT
Direct: 2150kms.
Times:
03:19
03:13
02:51
03:13
02:40
02:50
02:46
03:01
03:01
02:49
02:49
03:04
02:52
02:50
Average time: 02:57

Opposite:
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL579/history/20171223/1331Z/KCLT/KDEN
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/FFT201/history/20171223/1155Z/KCLT/KDEN
Times:
03:51
03:55
04:11
03:37
03:47
03:43
03:38
03:49
03:47
03:45
03:33
03:34

Average time: 03:46
Average of times: 03:21
Average speed: 2150kms/03:21= 639kmh
Number of considered flights:27


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/LNE1451/history/20171224/0105Z/SEQM/SPJC
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/GLG7388/history/20171223/2329Z/SEQM/SPJC
Direct: 1332kms
Times:
01:46
01:50
01:48
02:20
01:53
01:51
01:51
02:20
02:20
01:52

Average time:01:59

Opposite:
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/GLG7389/history/20171223/1532Z/SPJC/SEQM
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/LNE1450/history/20171223/1359Z/SPJC/SEQM
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TAE516/history/20171224/0240Z/SPJC/SEQM
Times:
01:47
01:51
02:30
01:50
01:51
01:51
01:51
01:52
01:47
01:51
01:56
01:49
01:50
01:51
01:51
01:51
01:51
01:51
01:57

Average time: 01:53
Average of times: 01:56
Average speed: 1332kms/01:56= 689kmh.
Number of considered flights: 29


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL1901/history/20171220/1400Z/KBOS/KDTW
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL753/history/20171223/2340Z/KBOS/KDTW
Direct: 1017
Times:
02:17
02:33
02:09
02:14
02:18
02:18
02:28
02:45
02:20
02:36
02:08

Average time: 02:22

Opposite:
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL1760/history/20171224/0108Z/KDTW/KBOS
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL2345/history/20171223/1845Z/KDTW/KBOS
Times:
01:38
01:42
01:38
01:38
01:35

Average time: 01:38
Average of times: 02:00
Average speed: 1017kms/02:00=507kmh.
Number of considered flights: 16


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ROU1858/history/20171224/0105Z/KLAS/CYUL
Direct: 3600kms
Times:
04:13
04:08
04:52
04:28
04:29
04:42
04:24
04:32
04:43

Average time: 04:30

Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ROU1855/history/20171223/1340Z/CYUL/KLAS
Times:
06:16
05:32
06:06
06:55
05:28
05:45
06:10
05:17
05:28
05:45
05:43

Average time: 05:51
Average of times: 05:10
Average speed: 695kmh.
Number of considered flights: 20


https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TAI432/history/20171224/0150Z/MSLP/MMMX
Direct:1259kms.
Times:
01:52
01:48
02:08
01:44
01:40
01:39
01:46
01:42

Average time: 01:47


Opposite: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TAI433/history/20171223/1100Z/MMMX/MSLP
Times:
01:45
01:46
01:45
01:46
01:46
01:42

Average time: 01:45
Average of times: 01:46
Average speed: 1259kms/01:46= 711kmh
Number of considered flights: 14


Total Number of considered flights: 106

Average speed of A319= (639x27+689x29+507x16+695x20+711x14)/106= 652 kmh.


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Re: Let's make a map all together depend on flight times
« Reply #59 on: December 23, 2017, 06:09:06 PM »
If there is a work done before about the "real flying speeds" of the aircrafts, bring it here. We may use them for comparison and improvement.


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