RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun

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RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« on: December 08, 2017, 12:06:19 AM »
When, How Long, Trajectory of The Sun: Before Eyes or Circling, etc. etc.

Thanks before.
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Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2017, 02:26:39 AM »
6 months midnight sun.... pfffftt...
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Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2017, 02:58:24 AM »
When, How Long, Trajectory of The Sun: Before Eyes or Circling, etc. etc.

Thanks before.
I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, but I will give it a go:
Firstly, the FE answer is quite simple.
As the sun is above us at all times, the sun would always be visible, so the midnight sun would be everywhere, always.
The trajectory is more complex, and would only appear to be circling from within the range of the sun.

But for the real answer:
The midnight sun occurs for different times depending upon where you are.
If you are at the poles, the sun rises shortly before the equinox and sets shortly after the equinox.
It has constant daylight for a period of slightly over 6 months.
The sun appears to circle you, slowly rising up before slowly lowering back down.
Conversely, right on the Arctic or Antarctic circle, you only just get the midnight sun.
It would happen for a single night.
This (like all other locations), has the sun appear to circle you, but instead of circling in a plane parallel to the ground, it now circles in a plane offset at an angle (at the pole, the angle is 0, at the equator it is 90 degrees).

Between these 2 you have behaviour between these 2.

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Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2017, 03:38:30 AM »
6 months midnight sun.... pfffftt...


This is a fantastic logical argument!!
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Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2017, 04:35:05 AM »
6 months midnight sun.... pfffftt...


This is a fantastic logical argument!!

Between "fantastic" & "hoax" hohoho...

Anyone from near poles countries, can you clarify, please?
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Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2017, 04:54:17 AM »
When, How Long, Trajectory of The Sun: Before Eyes or Circling, etc. etc.
Thanks before.
There are no arguments, just observed and easily proven facts:
         At the North Pole there is daylight from March 21 to September 21.
         Everywhere north of the Arctic Circle has "midnight sun" on June 21.
         Everywhere south of the Antarctic Circle has "midnight sun" on December 21.
         At the South Pole there is daylight from September 21 to March 21 of the next year.
All dates are UTC.

Anyone claiming otherwise is trying to deceive or trick you.

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Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2017, 04:56:25 AM »
When, How Long, Trajectory of The Sun: Before Eyes or Circling, etc. etc.

Thanks before.
I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, but I will give it a go:
Firstly, the FE answer is quite simple.
As the sun is above us at all times, the sun would always be visible, so the midnight sun would be everywhere, always.
The trajectory is more complex, and would only appear to be circling from within the range of the sun.

But for the real answer:
The midnight sun occurs for different times depending upon where you are.
If you are at the poles, the sun rises shortly before the equinox and sets shortly after the equinox.
It has constant daylight for a period of slightly over 6 months.
The sun appears to circle you, slowly rising up before slowly lowering back down.
Conversely, right on the Arctic or Antarctic circle, you only just get the midnight sun.
It would happen for a single night.
This (like all other locations), has the sun appear to circle you, but instead of circling in a plane parallel to the ground, it now circles in a plane offset at an angle (at the pole, the angle is 0, at the equator it is 90 degrees).

Between these 2 you have behaviour between these 2.

The critical problem of RE is among others: at "6 months of midnight sun"
While the critical problem of (conventional) FE is their denial of midnight sun at (around) south pole.

RFE still wait and see... ^_^
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Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2017, 04:56:50 AM »
When, How Long, Trajectory of The Sun: Before Eyes or Circling, etc. etc.

Thanks before.
I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, but I will give it a go:
Firstly, the FE answer is quite simple.
As the sun is above us at all times, the sun would always be visible, so the midnight sun would be everywhere, always.
Wrong.

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Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2017, 05:05:18 AM »
When, How Long, Trajectory of The Sun: Before Eyes or Circling, etc. etc.
Thanks before.
There are no arguments, just observed and easily proven facts:
         At the North Pole there is daylight from March 21 to September 21.
         Everywhere north of the Arctic Circle has "midnight sun" on June 21.
         Everywhere south of the Antarctic Circle has "midnight sun" on December 21.
         At the South Pole there is daylight from September 21 to March 21 of the next year.
All dates are UTC.

Anyone claiming otherwise is trying to deceive or trick you.

Have you yourself proven 6 months of midnight sun?

The earth tilts... Is it fact or fiction?

They claim they have come to Flat Mars, but they have Never shown anything about the whole earth, including tilt video.

Ironical.
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Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2017, 05:06:02 AM »
When, How Long, Trajectory of The Sun: Before Eyes or Circling, etc. etc.

Thanks before.
I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, but I will give it a go:
Firstly, the FE answer is quite simple.
As the sun is above us at all times, the sun would always be visible, so the midnight sun would be everywhere, always.
Wrong.
Prove it!

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Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2017, 05:07:18 AM »
((((( FLAT MARS )))))
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Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2017, 05:19:01 AM »
When, How Long, Trajectory of The Sun: Before Eyes or Circling, etc. etc.

Thanks before.
I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, but I will give it a go:
Firstly, the FE answer is quite simple.
As the sun is above us at all times, the sun would always be visible, so the midnight sun would be everywhere, always.
Wrong.

Explain.
The Bible doesn't support a flat earth.

Scripture, facts, science, stats, and logic is how I argue.

Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2017, 05:21:55 AM »
When, How Long, Trajectory of The Sun: Before Eyes or Circling, etc. etc.

Thanks before.
I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, but I will give it a go:
Firstly, the FE answer is quite simple.
As the sun is above us at all times, the sun would always be visible, so the midnight sun would be everywhere, always.
Wrong.
Prove it!
The claim = A midnight Sun would be visible everywhere on a flat earth.

I did not make the claim.

JackBlack made the claim and must prove it.

God, I am sick and tired of you fucking RE-tards demanding someone prove a negative.

Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2017, 05:31:06 AM »
When, How Long, Trajectory of The Sun: Before Eyes or Circling, etc. etc.

Thanks before.
I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, but I will give it a go:
Firstly, the FE answer is quite simple.
As the sun is above us at all times, the sun would always be visible, so the midnight sun would be everywhere, always.
Wrong.
Prove it!
The claim = A midnight Sun would be visible everywhere on a flat earth.

I did not make the claim.

JackBlack made the claim and must prove it.

God, I am sick and tired of you fucking RE-tards demanding someone prove a negative.
I'll back down from the "Prove it!" angle, and just ask you to explain why you believe Jack's statement is false. 

The Sun is a highly luminescent object, and it stands to reason that , unless the light is being blocked by something, anytime it is above the Earth it should be visible.  Is it false because the Sun isn't luminescent?  Is it false because it's not always above the Earth?  Is it false because it should be invisible while above the Earth without being blocked? 

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Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2017, 05:32:09 AM »
If it is midnight, there is no sun; if there is sun, it is not midnight. This is the logical argument. What is yours?
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Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2017, 06:02:26 AM »
When, How Long, Trajectory of The Sun: Before Eyes or Circling, etc. etc.

Thanks before.
I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, but I will give it a go:
Firstly, the FE answer is quite simple.
As the sun is above us at all times, the sun would always be visible, so the midnight sun would be everywhere, always.
Wrong.
Prove it!
The claim = A midnight Sun would be visible everywhere on a flat earth.

I did not make the claim.

JackBlack made the claim and must prove it.

God, I am sick and tired of you fucking RE-tards demanding someone prove a negative.
I'll back down from the "Prove it!" angle, and just ask you to explain why you believe Jack's statement is false. 

The Sun is a highly luminescent object, and it stands to reason that , unless the light is being blocked by something, anytime it is above the Earth it should be visible.  Is it false because the Sun isn't luminescent?  Is it false because it's not always above the Earth?  Is it false because it should be invisible while above the Earth without being blocked?
Wait for Jack to come back and demonstrably prove his position.

He is good at making statements about how things would be in places he denies even exist.

He is so good at it, he should be a fucking evangelist.

Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2017, 06:34:52 AM »
When, How Long, Trajectory of The Sun: Before Eyes or Circling, etc. etc.

Thanks before.
I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, but I will give it a go:
Firstly, the FE answer is quite simple.
As the sun is above us at all times, the sun would always be visible, so the midnight sun would be everywhere, always.
Wrong.
Prove it!
The claim = A midnight Sun would be visible everywhere on a flat earth.

I did not make the claim.

JackBlack made the claim and must prove it.

God, I am sick and tired of you fucking RE-tards demanding someone prove a negative.
I'll back down from the "Prove it!" angle, and just ask you to explain why you believe Jack's statement is false. 

The Sun is a highly luminescent object, and it stands to reason that , unless the light is being blocked by something, anytime it is above the Earth it should be visible.  Is it false because the Sun isn't luminescent?  Is it false because it's not always above the Earth?  Is it false because it should be invisible while above the Earth without being blocked?
Wait for Jack to come back and demonstrably prove his position.

He is good at making statements about how things would be in places he denies even exist.

He is so good at it, he should be a fucking evangelist.
I restated Jack's statement with an explanation of why we think it's true.  Which part of the statement is false?

Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2017, 06:43:36 AM »
I restated Jack's statement with an explanation of why we think it's true.  Which part of the statement is false?
Good for you!

Now why don't you demonstrate it to be true.

You made the claim.

Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2017, 07:00:29 AM »
I restated Jack's statement with an explanation of why we think it's true.  Which part of the statement is false?
Good for you!

Now why don't you demonstrate it to be true.

You made the claim.
I need to know to which part of the statement you object in order to either concede the point or prove it.  Why are you making this so hard?

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Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2017, 07:11:19 AM »
I restated Jack's statement with an explanation of why we think it's true.  Which part of the statement is false?
Good for you!

Now why don't you demonstrate it to be true.

You made the claim.
I need to know to which part of the statement you object in order to either concede the point or prove it.  Why are you making this so hard?
Are you for fucking real?

Prove Jack's statement or your restatement of Jack's statement or STFU.

It is that fucking simple.

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Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2017, 07:19:32 AM »
Mars n other 'planets' are stars, something illuminates, heavily spinning.

Going to 'planet' is ridiculous. ~
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Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2017, 09:02:03 AM »
I restated Jack's statement with an explanation of why we think it's true.  Which part of the statement is false?
Good for you!

Now why don't you demonstrate it to be true.

You made the claim.
I need to know to which part of the statement you object in order to either concede the point or prove it.  Why are you making this so hard?
Are you for fucking real?

Prove Jack's statement or your restatement of Jack's statement or STFU.

It is that fucking simple.
The truth of the statement is apparent to anyone with the capacity for rational thought.  A statement doesn't require proof when both sides agree to accept the premises.  I need to know where your break from reality is in order to teach you enough to understand it. 

The Sun is luminescent.  Do you require proof of that or can we agree on that being axiomatic in this exercise?

Luminescent objects are visible within line of sight given the absence of a greater light source.  Do you require proof of that or can we agree on that being axiomatic in this exercise?

The flat Earth model generally accepted by flat Earth believers places the Sun above the surface of the Earth at all times.  Do you require proof of that or can we agree on that being axiomatic in this exercise?


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Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2017, 09:43:40 AM »
The Sun is luminescent.  Do you require proof of that or can we agree on that being axiomatic in this exercise?

I require proof of that.

Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2017, 10:33:47 AM »
6 months midnight sun.... pfffftt...


This is a fantastic logical argument!!

Between "fantastic" & "hoax" hohoho...

Anyone from near poles countries, can you clarify, please?
I have been in Alaska near the summer solstice and it never got dark.  The sun set below the horizon for like an hour but the sky never got dark.  It was like sunset and sunrise just bled into each other.
Is that what you were looking for?

Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2017, 11:24:21 AM »
The truth of the statement is apparent to anyone with the capacity for rational thought.
Wrong.
A statement doesn't require proof when both sides agree to accept the premises.
A statement always requires proof when asked for. 
I need to know where your break from reality is in order to teach you enough to understand it.
Consider there is no break from reality on my part.
The Sun is luminescent.  Do you require proof of that or can we agree on that being axiomatic in this exercise?
I agree the Sun emits light.
Luminescent objects are visible within line of sight given the absence of a greater light source. Do you require proof of that or can we agree on that being axiomatic in this exercise?
I have been in conditions nearly dark as night with the Sun directly above my head, so no.

I disagree with your statement. 
The flat Earth model generally accepted by flat Earth believers places the Sun above the surface of the Earth at all times.  Do you require proof of that or can we agree on that being axiomatic in this exercise?
Okay, go.

Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2017, 11:47:00 AM »
Luminescent objects are visible within line of sight given the absence of a greater light source. Do you require proof of that or can we agree on that being axiomatic in this exercise?
I have been in conditions nearly dark as night with the Sun directly above my head, so no.

I disagree with your statement. 
I respectfully call BS so long as you are in accordance with his full statement. The important part to your reply is highlighted. If you are speaking of a time other than during an eclipse, thick clouds, or within a building etc. (thus meaning the sun is no longer within line of sight) I would love to hear about it, but until you provide some form of evidence of such a claim I state you are lying.

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Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2017, 12:23:03 PM »
The Sun is luminescent.  Do you require proof of that or can we agree on that being axiomatic in this exercise?

I require proof of that.

I guess you cant.

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Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2017, 12:32:17 PM »
I respectfully call BS so long as you are in accordance with his full statement. The important part to your reply is highlighted. If you are speaking of a time other than during an eclipse, thick clouds, or within a building etc. (thus meaning the sun is no longer within line of sight) I would love to hear about it, but until you provide some form of evidence of such a claim I state you are lying.
You should learn the difference between terms "line of sight," and, "unobstructed view," or, "sight line."

The last two are synonymous.

Even a luminous object can be within your line of sight and an obstruction can still be hindering or completely preventing you from seeing it.

And his statement overtly claimed a more luminescent object was required to prevent the objects' viewing and implies that light will travel infinitely.

That statement is nothing more than an assumption on both accounts.
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Re: RE & FE, Please Submit Your Logical Arguments on Midnight Sun
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2017, 12:50:55 PM »
6 months midnight sun.... pfffftt...


This is a fantastic logical argument!!

Between "fantastic" & "hoax" hohoho...

Anyone from near poles countries, can you clarify, please?
I have been in Alaska near the summer solstice and it never got dark.  The sun set below the horizon for like an hour but the sky never got dark.  It was like sunset and sunrise just bled into each other.
Is that what you were looking for?

What you said is already a general knowledge.

I want proof of 6 months of sun's appearance without setting.
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