Greetings!

Quote from: brotherhood of the dome on December 05, 2017, 11:47:45 PM

I completely confused. Is it caused by my weak knowledge on English or the event is already confusing. Can anyone answer?

41317 is starting a cult and is searching for victims.

Come on... They're not looking fir victims, they're just adorable hippies! Aww so cute!

Quote from: crutonius on December 03, 2017, 06:28:18 PM

Also we're not nudists. I'm not sure if your commune is nudist or not.

Ahem, speak for yourself...

I better not catch you or I'll arrest you for indecent exposure.

Quote from: Dinosaur Neil on December 05, 2017, 12:56:58 PM

Quote from: crutonius on December 03, 2017, 06:28:18 PM

Also we're not nudists. I'm not sure if your commune is nudist or not.

Ahem, speak for yourself...

I better not catch you or I'll arrest you for indecent exposure.

I was under the impression that you would give us all a pass.

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on December 06, 2017, 06:36:53 AM

Quote from: Dinosaur Neil on December 05, 2017, 12:56:58 PM

Quote from: crutonius on December 03, 2017, 06:28:18 PM

Also we're not nudists. I'm not sure if your commune is nudist or not.

Ahem, speak for yourself...

I better not catch you or I'll arrest you for indecent exposure.

I was under the impression that you would give us all a pass.

If you murdered someone then yeah but it'll over my dead body that I allow someone to walk around naked.

Quote from: crutonius on December 03, 2017, 06:28:18 PM

Also we're not nudists.

We're not? 

Well, he isn't.

I have been teaching people of the flatness of the Earth for upwards of ten years now, offline, and teaching how we may all see it as it truly is.

In course of those years of teaching the flatness, have you been able to come up with a coherent flat earth model that can stand up to even the least bit of critical scrutiny?  If so, then I'd like to hear about it, in the appropriate discussion forum, of course.

Quote from: brotherhood of the dome on December 05, 2017, 11:47:45 PM

I completely confused. Is it caused by my weak knowledge on English or the event is already confusing. Can anyone answer?

41317 is starting a cult and is searching for victims.

We are not a cult. Everyone is here because they choose to be. There are no victims, I ask for nothing except that you listen and improve yourself.

Joe

Quote from: 41317 on December 03, 2017, 06:14:17 PM

I have been teaching people of the flatness of the Earth for upwards of ten years now, offline, and teaching how we may all see it as it truly is.

In course of those years of teaching the flatness, have you been able to come up with a coherent flat earth model that can stand up to even the least bit of critical scrutiny?  If so, then I'd like to hear about it, in the appropriate discussion forum, of course.

I do not believe in material scrutiny. It is limited in application, and devalues the spiritual core of the world.

Joe

The Sacred Steps website is at last up and running, thanks to the efforts of my wonderful wife. If you are interested, please visit. It will be added to as time goes by.

http://sacredsteps.webs.com/

Joe

cult (kəlt) 
a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.

cult (kəlt) 
a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.

We devote ourselves to self-improvement. If that is a cult, then we are a cult. I find it a strange label to apply though.

Joe

How much do you devote to pretending to be several people posting from the same account on forums?

Quote from: markjo on December 06, 2017, 08:33:16 AM

Quote from: 41317 on December 03, 2017, 06:14:17 PM

I have been teaching people of the flatness of the Earth for upwards of ten years now, offline, and teaching how we may all see it as it truly is.

In course of those years of teaching the flatness, have you been able to come up with a coherent flat earth model that can stand up to even the least bit of critical scrutiny?  If so, then I'd like to hear about it, in the appropriate discussion forum, of course.

I do not believe in material scrutiny. It is limited in application, and devalues the spiritual core of the world.

Joe

Then why bother taking any position on the shape of the earth at all?  You have a physical body that resides in the material world, so it would seem that certain practical considerations would be prudent.

Quote from: 41317 on December 06, 2017, 08:56:30 AM

Quote from: markjo on December 06, 2017, 08:33:16 AM

Quote from: 41317 on December 03, 2017, 06:14:17 PM

I have been teaching people of the flatness of the Earth for upwards of ten years now, offline, and teaching how we may all see it as it truly is.

In course of those years of teaching the flatness, have you been able to come up with a coherent flat earth model that can stand up to even the least bit of critical scrutiny?  If so, then I'd like to hear about it, in the appropriate discussion forum, of course.

I do not believe in material scrutiny. It is limited in application, and devalues the spiritual core of the world.

Joe

Then why bother taking any position on the shape of the earth at all?  You have a physical body that resides in the material world, so it would seem that certain practical considerations would be prudent.

The world isn't purely material, just as we're not. There's a spiritual component to everything. There's no true understanding of anything without taking the soul into account.

Lindsey

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 06, 2017, 09:22:01 AM

cult (kəlt) 
a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.

We devote ourselves to self-improvement. If that is a cult, then we are a cult. I find it a strange label to apply though.

Joe

Would you allow me to be naked? I'd like that.

Quote from: markjo on December 06, 2017, 10:38:47 AM

Quote from: 41317 on December 06, 2017, 08:56:30 AM

Quote from: markjo on December 06, 2017, 08:33:16 AM

Quote from: 41317 on December 03, 2017, 06:14:17 PM

I have been teaching people of the flatness of the Earth for upwards of ten years now, offline, and teaching how we may all see it as it truly is.

In course of those years of teaching the flatness, have you been able to come up with a coherent flat earth model that can stand up to even the least bit of critical scrutiny?  If so, then I'd like to hear about it, in the appropriate discussion forum, of course.

I do not believe in material scrutiny. It is limited in application, and devalues the spiritual core of the world.

Joe

Then why bother taking any position on the shape of the earth at all?  You have a physical body that resides in the material world, so it would seem that certain practical considerations would be prudent.

The world isn't purely material, just as we're not. There's a spiritual component to everything. There's no true understanding of anything without taking the soul into account.

Lindsey

How does the spiritual component of the earth affect its material shape?

Quote from: 41317 on December 06, 2017, 11:20:28 AM

Quote from: markjo on December 06, 2017, 10:38:47 AM

Quote from: 41317 on December 06, 2017, 08:56:30 AM

Quote from: markjo on December 06, 2017, 08:33:16 AM

Quote from: 41317 on December 03, 2017, 06:14:17 PM

I have been teaching people of the flatness of the Earth for upwards of ten years now, offline, and teaching how we may all see it as it truly is.

In course of those years of teaching the flatness, have you been able to come up with a coherent flat earth model that can stand up to even the least bit of critical scrutiny?  If so, then I'd like to hear about it, in the appropriate discussion forum, of course.

I do not believe in material scrutiny. It is limited in application, and devalues the spiritual core of the world.

Joe

Then why bother taking any position on the shape of the earth at all?  You have a physical body that resides in the material world, so it would seem that certain practical considerations would be prudent.

The world isn't purely material, just as we're not. There's a spiritual component to everything. There's no true understanding of anything without taking the soul into account.

Lindsey

How does the spiritual component of the earth affect its material shape?

It has no purely material shape. Like everything it is partly spirit, and must be viewed as such.

Lindsey

My name's Hector. I don't know if there's much point in me posting here, it looks like the others are doing great by themselves, but I'll always want to spread the word about what the Sacred Steps have done for me.
You might see me around.

Quote from: 41317 on December 06, 2017, 11:20:28 AM

Quote from: markjo on December 06, 2017, 10:38:47 AM

Quote from: 41317 on December 06, 2017, 08:56:30 AM

Quote from: markjo on December 06, 2017, 08:33:16 AM

Quote from: 41317 on December 03, 2017, 06:14:17 PM

I have been teaching people of the flatness of the Earth for upwards of ten years now, offline, and teaching how we may all see it as it truly is.

In course of those years of teaching the flatness, have you been able to come up with a coherent flat earth model that can stand up to even the least bit of critical scrutiny?  If so, then I'd like to hear about it, in the appropriate discussion forum, of course.

I do not believe in material scrutiny. It is limited in application, and devalues the spiritual core of the world.

Joe

Then why bother taking any position on the shape of the earth at all?  You have a physical body that resides in the material world, so it would seem that certain practical considerations would be prudent.

The world isn't purely material, just as we're not. There's a spiritual component to everything. There's no true understanding of anything without taking the soul into account.

Lindsey

How does the spiritual component of the earth affect its material shape?

Hector again, not trying to but in, but I remember hearing about quantum physics and the fact that the act of observing an experiment on a fundamental level can change the outcome. It shows that a key ingredient of the most basic aspect of matter is a consciousness capable of observation, meaning the soul affects what the material is. The world is an empty place if it's devoid of spirit, I'd never want to go back to that.

How many of your cult members are level 17?

How many of your cult members are level 17?

Hector again.
We're not a cult, just a group of people that agree. We moved out to the commune to avoid the mockery alternative beliefs receive.
The numbering is in reverse order. Very few people in the world are level 17, that is a true tragedy for people to be so clouded to their soul that they do not even feel. None of us are at the first and final stage, though Joe has contacted one. I, personally, am at the ninth. Joe has attained the second, he is the highest of us which is why we listen to him.

Who decides a cult member's rank?

Who decides a cult member's rank?

They aren't ranks like that, just marks of progress. Joe is the best at identifying how far we've come.

Quote from: markjo on December 06, 2017, 11:59:05 AM

Quote from: 41317 on December 06, 2017, 11:20:28 AM

Quote from: markjo on December 06, 2017, 10:38:47 AM

Quote from: 41317 on December 06, 2017, 08:56:30 AM

Quote from: markjo on December 06, 2017, 08:33:16 AM

Quote from: 41317 on December 03, 2017, 06:14:17 PM

I have been teaching people of the flatness of the Earth for upwards of ten years now, offline, and teaching how we may all see it as it truly is.

In course of those years of teaching the flatness, have you been able to come up with a coherent flat earth model that can stand up to even the least bit of critical scrutiny?  If so, then I'd like to hear about it, in the appropriate discussion forum, of course.

I do not believe in material scrutiny. It is limited in application, and devalues the spiritual core of the world.

Joe

Then why bother taking any position on the shape of the earth at all?  You have a physical body that resides in the material world, so it would seem that certain practical considerations would be prudent.

The world isn't purely material, just as we're not. There's a spiritual component to everything. There's no true understanding of anything without taking the soul into account.

Lindsey

How does the spiritual component of the earth affect its material shape?

Hector again, not trying to but in, but I remember hearing about quantum physics and the fact that the act of observing an experiment on a fundamental level can change the outcome. It shows that a key ingredient of the most basic aspect of matter is a consciousness capable of observation, meaning the soul affects what the material is. The world is an empty place if it's devoid of spirit, I'd never want to go back to that.

That's a common misconception.  The observer effect is based on the fact that its impossible to measure something without altering it.   It doesn't matter if it's a human observer or a machine observer.

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 06, 2017, 01:12:45 PM

Who decides a cult member's rank?

They aren't ranks like that, just marks of progress. Joe is the best at identifying how far we've come.

As cult leader, does Joe offer special perks and privileges to cult members who have attained more 'progress'?

Quote from: 41317 on December 06, 2017, 01:16:05 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 06, 2017, 01:12:45 PM

Who decides a cult member's rank?

They aren't ranks like that, just marks of progress. Joe is the best at identifying how far we've come.

As cult leader, does Joe offer special perks and privileges to cult members who have attained more 'progress'?

We are not a cult, and Joe is more teacher than leader.
He doesn't offer 'perks and privileges,' we're here to learn. Those that grow more are capable of more, if you need a reward that is all there is. We are given the opportunity to teach others as well, because we can offer another's perspective as one who ascended more recently, but that's more of a responsibility than a privilege.
I admit as his wife you could argue I have a certain 'perk' but that's because of who I am, not the stage I've reached.

Lindsey

Have any other cult members attained the same level of 'progress' as Joe?

Is it possible to surpass Joe's 'progress' and become the 'teacher'?

Have any other cult members attained the same level of 'progress' as Joe?

Is it possible to surpass Joe's 'progress' and become the 'teacher'?

Please stop calling us a cult. We are not, cult is a word used by people that do not understand that the like-minded will group together when they are mocked elsewhere. It is a negative term with no place in a discussion.
If someone became Joe's equal they would teach alongside him yes, and developing us to and past his level is his goal. Much of what Joe teaches us was taught to him in turn by a fully ascended soul. No one has yet reached that point, but he has studied for many years more than us.

Lindsey

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 06, 2017, 02:31:45 PM

Have any other cult members attained the same level of 'progress' as Joe?

Is it possible to surpass Joe's 'progress' and become the 'teacher'?

Please stop calling us a cult. We are not, cult is a word used by people that do not understand that the like-minded will group together when they are mocked elsewhere. It is a negative term with no place in a discussion.
If someone became Joe's equal they would teach alongside him yes, and developing us to and past his level is his goal. Much of what Joe teaches us was taught to him in turn by a fully ascended soul. No one has yet reached that point, but he has studied for many years more than us.

Lindsey

I'll stop calling you a cult when you answer my question about if I can be naked if I join you.

How is your cult financed?
Who controls the money and pays the bills?