I can't offer irrefutable proof as you flat earthers always claim, but I see plenty of evidence:
Go down to the beach and open your eyes!
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To me the sun sure seems to be going down behind something. And I, understandably, interpret that something as the curved ocean surface.
I don't have to invent all sorts of weird hypotheses to explain it away. The looks as though it sets behind the horizon and I believe that it really does.
Yet you flat earthers have to come up with all sorts of hypotheses involving perspective, atmoplanic lensing, refraction (grossly excessive and upside down, but so what), none of which really explain what we easily see.
I just believe what I see and don't try to "explain it away".
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There are many, many more, but since you are allergic to sums I dare not mention those!
All you have to do is to open your eyes, as people have been doing for a couple of thousand years.
Massively scraping the barrel with all of that.
It's funny how you have to use massive distance to play duping with a curve and yet when the clear physical evidence is there with what I said earlier to prove a level, you fail to address it.
Learn to read and
do not put words into my mouth that I did not say!
I said nothing about any "massive distance to play duping with a curve".
The horizon that I showed was only 2.6 km (verified) to about 6 km (estimated) away!
"Massive distance" indeed.Try your fairy tales on someone else!
Let me tell you about your rising and setting sun as you believe it to be due to your so called Earth rotation towards or away from that sun.
Now think very hard about this.
If you were on a ball and the Earth was rotating away from your sun, then you could claim that it was setting....but there's a massive massive massive problem with this and easily provable with a telescope set perfectly level.
You see, if you set your telescope perfectly level on the beach or wherever and watch the sun go down as your Earth is supposedly spinning away from that sun then so would your telescope.
You would immediately start to lose your horizon line and start to look into your space/sky because your telescope would be tilted back towards you with the eye piece angling down to the beach and the large scope angling up as the sun appears to fall below.
Where did you telescope come from? I can see a sunrise or sunset with the unaided, if you need a massive telescope, that's your problem.
The horizon in those sunset photos is almost at eye-level, so the camera is not "angling up" - you do talk such rubbish.
It is only about 5 km away and an almost imperceptible angle (less than 0.05°) below eye level.
Your "Flat Earth Theory" claims that the horizon always rises to eye level and in fact, it
appears to do that.
Of course, we don't see this happen because we naturally still see the scope still perfectly level and pointing at the horizon line and yet here we are seeing the sun still disappearing from view.
"Of course, we don't see this happen", because what you claim is total garbage!
Yes, the eye or the camera is "still perfectly level and pointing at the horizon line" simply because the horizon line is
almost exactly horizontal as it should be on a Globe about 12,700 km in diameter!
So what in the hell can logic tell us what is really happening?
It clearly tells us that atmospheric horizontal mass is obscuring our view.....but how?
Your twisted logic might tell you that but that is just your trying to twist reality to fit your preconceived ideas,
Why then is the sun very obviously disappearing lower part first - you either have never seen a sunset or were blinded by you flat earth indoctrination not really to observe it!
Again, if people use their logic, then can clearly see that the sun is moving away from their available view and in doing so is adding more horizontal atmospheric mass against your vision which starts to cut of more and more available light as it moves further away as your atmospheric horizontal mass keeps obscuring.
No, people
do not "clearly see that the sun is moving away from their available view". The sun is quite obviously disappearing behind something.
Look again, this time with your blinkers off:
Watch the sun set. When I see:
Sun near setting at Weipa | | Sunset at Weipa | | Sun almost gone |
Besides, if the close flat earth sun were "going away" it would be getting smaller, and (when the glare is removed) it does not do that.
But look at what we observe with the real sun. It certainly appears to move across the sky
without changing in size as in these photos taken from a video made by
the Flat Earther, Matrix Decode with very good photos of the sun through a filter (an arc welder's glass) showing the sun at a number of times of day from 9:30 AM to 7:00 PM on 9/March/2016 in Malaga, Spain.
These screen shots from his video does an excellent job of proving that the sun size does not change!
That's how it works folks, so don't be falling for the old sun sinking below a spinning globe and in fact people should clearly be able to see this.
Open your eyes and see how the real earth actually works!
Your sunset explanations make no more sense than you ideas on velocity and acceleration.