It's an orb

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It's an orb
« on: November 25, 2017, 10:25:45 PM »
I was a field technician for a company called Clean Air Engineering back in the 70's testing smokestack emissions from power plants, waste incinerators, steel mills, and paper mills. In 1977, I went to Antarctica to sample the garbage incinerator emissions from the McMurdo research station as well as the Amundsen-Scott south pole station. According to flat earth theory there is no south pole, so our plane should have flown over the edge of the earth and drifted into outer space. That didn't happen. Flat earth proponents also say that aircraft navigation is wholly unreliable as a method of determining actual latitude and longitudinal coordinates since "the government" controls GPS to fool all aircraft and marine traffic into thinking they're navigating a globe, instead of a flat earth. Our LC-130 didn't have GPS in 1977.


Re: It's an orb
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2017, 01:27:57 AM »
Wait for it. Get ready to be called a shill or an easily deceived fool.

By the way, interesting tidbit from McMurdo. Is incineartion the methid of waste disposal in Antarctica? I would have thought that went against the conservation of the continent? Generally I thought all the trash there was hauled off.

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Re: It's an orb
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2017, 04:58:49 AM »
conservation of the continent?
  Maybe not the issue in 1977 it is today?

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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2017, 11:16:04 AM »
Both McMurdo and Amundsen-Scott had trash piles everywhere, including barrels of solid toilet waste that accumulated after the drain pipes would freeze. They had oil fired incinerators (that put out dirtier emissions than the trash itself), but most of the disposal went to open burning. We were called in to test their incinerator stacks after they started experimenting with propane after-burners. The results were abysmal.






























































































































































 

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Re: It's an orb
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2017, 05:32:59 PM »
Nobody said there are not bases in Antarctica.  In case you were wondering, most of us believe that Antarctica exists. 

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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2017, 06:44:08 AM »
Could you direct me to what map you accept? Everything I've seen has a thin ice ring surrounding all the continents with no mass to allow for the South pole or anything remotely near it.

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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2017, 08:27:06 AM »
Could you direct me to what map you accept? Everything I've seen has a thin ice ring surrounding all the continents with no mass to allow for the South pole or anything remotely near it.

Ah no, that's not the map they're using this month...

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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2017, 08:40:03 AM »
Nobody said there are not bases in Antarctica.  In case you were wondering, most of us believe that Antarctica exists. 
Could you direct me to what map you accept? Everything I've seen has a thin ice ring surrounding all the continents with no mass to allow for the South pole or anything remotely near it.
Just because bases exist, does not mean there is an actual South Pole.

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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2017, 08:55:18 AM »
I was at Amundsen-Scott for two miserable weeks. I flew across the continent. Seriously, there's really no hole in the center of Antarctica.
The south pole actually exists.

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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2017, 09:13:30 AM »
I was at Amundsen-Scott for two miserable weeks. I flew across the continent. Seriously, there's really no hole in the center of Antarctica.
The south pole actually exists.

You are wasting your time. They will find a way of dismissing your post... Even if they have to create an entirely new 'theory' to do it.

This is not about the truth.

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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2017, 09:17:42 AM »
I was at Amundsen-Scott for two miserable weeks. I flew across the continent. Seriously, there's really no hole in the center of Antarctica.
The south pole actually exists.
Pardon me if I do not believe you when you write, "I flew across the continent."

Why would you fly across the continent?

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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2017, 09:34:20 AM »
Testing ran for two hours a day starting at 7 am. The rest of the day I was free to look at the garbage, snow, ice, hairy nerds, plywood walls of my quarters... It was all very exciting, but whenever the opportunity to take a ride came along I took it. I saw many foreign hairy nerds, their garbage, more snow and ice.

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Re: It's an orb
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2017, 06:41:13 PM »
Just because bases exist, does not mean there is an actual South Pole.
And just because you deny the existence of a single point, due south of every other location on earth, that we call the South Pole
does not mean that there is no South Pole.

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Re: It's an orb
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2017, 06:51:48 PM »
Could you direct me to what map you accept? Everything I've seen has a thin ice ring surrounding all the continents with no mass to allow for the South pole or anything remotely near it.

Ah no, that's not the map they're using this month...
I think that they have the following six maps to choose from and each month just toss a dice..
If the earth is flat, then a flat map of the flat earth would be simply a scaled diagram of that flat earth.
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So the whole problem is that flat earthers come up with so many different maps, such as these: The following are maps that various Flat Earth Society members believe to be the true flat earth "continental layout":
This?

FE Ice Wall Map
Generally redarded as the "Accepted" map.
    Or maybe this?

FE Bipolar Map
(0°, 0°) centred AEP
    Or maybe this?

1893 map by Orlando Ferguson.
Credit: Don Homuth

Or maybe this for the Northern Hemisphere?

Map Northern Hemiplane, DET
    and this for the Southern Hemisphere?

Map Southern Hemiplane
    Or maybe this?


Sandokhan "True" Flat Earth Map
All of these maps are proposed by various quite active flat earthers.


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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2017, 05:46:31 AM »
Testing ran for two hours a day starting at 7 am. The rest of the day I was free to look at the garbage, snow, ice, hairy nerds, plywood walls of my quarters... It was all very exciting, but whenever the opportunity to take a ride came along I took it. I saw many foreign hairy nerds, their garbage, more snow and ice.
I wrote a specific question "Why would you fly across the continent?"

And your reply indicates you did not fly across the continent; in fact, your reply indicates you have no clue where you were flying.

In cases involving juries, if a juror suspects one part of the testimony of a witness is false, then all of the testimony of the witness is called into question.

I think your whole fucking story is bullshit.


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« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2017, 10:04:36 AM »
Testing ran for two hours a day starting at 7 am. The rest of the day I was free to look at the garbage, snow, ice, hairy nerds, plywood walls of my quarters... It was all very exciting, but whenever the opportunity to take a ride came along I took it. I saw many foreign hairy nerds, their garbage, more snow and ice.
I wrote a specific question "Why would you fly across the continent?"

And your reply indicates you did not fly across the continent; in fact, your reply indicates you have no clue where you were flying.

In cases involving juries, if a juror suspects one part of the testimony of a witness is false, then all of the testimony of the witness is called into question.

I think your whole fucking story is bullshit.
And I think your “reading comprehension fail” act is bullshit.  Everyone reading this understood it.  Why would he fly across the continent?  Because his job only consumed two hours a day, and he wanted something to fill the time.  (Emphasis added to the original post, to point out the answer to your question.  The answer you pretend not to understand)
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« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2017, 10:26:22 AM »
And I think your “reading comprehension fail” act is bullshit.  Everyone reading this understood it.  Why would he fly across the continent?  Because his job only consumed two hours a day, and he wanted something to fill the time.  (Emphasis added to the original post, to point out the answer to your question.  The answer you pretend not to understand)
What "reading comprehension fail?"

If you believe there are any flights taking place encompassing the distance of a supposed Antarctic continent and any outside visitor would be allowed on those flights, then you too are fucking delusional.

Any bases being operated anywhere on the plane of the Earth have a purpose and that purpose is restricted to that purpose. Operations taking place on the base suit the purpose of operation and taking a supposed transcontinental flight of the most hostile place on the plane of the Earth would be a highly restricted flight, limited only to personnel deemed necessary to make the flight. Not some visiting contractor who only wants to sight see.

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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2017, 10:45:09 AM »
And I think your “reading comprehension fail” act is bullshit.  Everyone reading this understood it.  Why would he fly across the continent?  Because his job only consumed two hours a day, and he wanted something to fill the time.  (Emphasis added to the original post, to point out the answer to your question.  The answer you pretend not to understand)
What "reading comprehension fail?"

If you believe there are any flights taking place encompassing the distance of a supposed Antarctic continent and any outside visitor would be allowed on those flights, then you too are fucking delusional.

Any bases being operated anywhere on the plane of the Earth have a purpose and that purpose is restricted to that purpose. Operations taking place on the base suit the purpose of operation and taking a supposed transcontinental flight of the most hostile place on the plane of the Earth would be a highly restricted flight, limited only to personnel deemed necessary to make the flight. Not some visiting contractor who only wants to sight see.
Any evidence? The bases in Antarctica are scientific in nature, and multinational. Flights between the bases doesn't seem unreasonable (if for nothing else than supply movement) and it being a "highly restricted flight" seems like complete conjecture without supporting evidence.

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Re: It's an orb
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2017, 11:16:38 AM »
Testing ran for two hours a day starting at 7 am. The rest of the day I was free to look at the garbage, snow, ice, hairy nerds, plywood walls of my quarters... It was all very exciting, but whenever the opportunity to take a ride came along I took it. I saw many foreign hairy nerds, their garbage, more snow and ice.
I wrote a specific question "Why would you fly across the continent?"

And your reply indicates you did not fly across the continent; in fact, your reply indicates you have no clue where you were flying.

In cases involving juries, if a juror suspects one part of the testimony of a witness is false, then all of the testimony of the witness is called into question.

I think your whole fucking story is bullshit.

So much for your "flat Earth bullshit"
I will always be Here To Laugh At You.

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« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2017, 02:54:57 PM »
And I think your “reading comprehension fail” act is bullshit.  Everyone reading this understood it.  Why would he fly across the continent?  Because his job only consumed two hours a day, and he wanted something to fill the time.  (Emphasis added to the original post, to point out the answer to your question.  The answer you pretend not to understand)
What "reading comprehension fail?"

If you believe there are any flights taking place encompassing the distance of a supposed Antarctic continent and any outside visitor would be allowed on those flights, then you too are fucking delusional.

Any bases being operated anywhere on the plane of the Earth have a purpose and that purpose is restricted to that purpose. Operations taking place on the base suit the purpose of operation and taking a supposed transcontinental flight of the most hostile place on the plane of the Earth would be a highly restricted flight, limited only to personnel deemed necessary to make the flight. Not some visiting contractor who only wants to sight see.
Any evidence? The bases in Antarctica are scientific in nature, and multinational. Flights between the bases doesn't seem unreasonable (if for nothing else than supply movement) and it being a "highly restricted flight" seems like complete conjecture without supporting evidence.
Yeah.

The fact that any flights in and of themselves are restricted to the stated purpose of the flight.

Fucking morans. 

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« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2017, 03:07:26 PM »
And I think your “reading comprehension fail” act is bullshit.  Everyone reading this understood it.  Why would he fly across the continent?  Because his job only consumed two hours a day, and he wanted something to fill the time.  (Emphasis added to the original post, to point out the answer to your question.  The answer you pretend not to understand)
What "reading comprehension fail?"

If you believe there are any flights taking place encompassing the distance of a supposed Antarctic continent and any outside visitor would be allowed on those flights, then you too are fucking delusional.

Any bases being operated anywhere on the plane of the Earth have a purpose and that purpose is restricted to that purpose. Operations taking place on the base suit the purpose of operation and taking a supposed transcontinental flight of the most hostile place on the plane of the Earth would be a highly restricted flight, limited only to personnel deemed necessary to make the flight. Not some visiting contractor who only wants to sight see.
Cool, you've been there and know all of this?  That's awesome.  When were you there?  Which base?

Re: It's an orb
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2017, 03:10:18 PM »
Please rename yourself *Totalfuckhead*

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Re: It's an orb
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2017, 05:38:19 PM »
And I think your “reading comprehension fail” act is bullshit.  Everyone reading this understood it.  Why would he fly across the continent?  Because his job only consumed two hours a day, and he wanted something to fill the time.  (Emphasis added to the original post, to point out the answer to your question.  The answer you pretend not to understand)
What "reading comprehension fail?"

If you believe there are any flights taking place encompassing the distance of a supposed Antarctic continent and any outside visitor would be allowed on those flights, then you too are fucking delusional.

Any bases being operated anywhere on the plane of the Earth have a purpose and that purpose is restricted to that purpose. Operations taking place on the base suit the purpose of operation and taking a supposed transcontinental flight of the most hostile place on the plane of the Earth would be a highly restricted flight, limited only to personnel deemed necessary to make the flight. Not some visiting contractor who only wants to sight see.
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There are numerous flights to the South Pole itself. You can also trek over many parts of Antarctica in groups.

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You seem to have less touch with reality than sceptimatic!

Though I do realise that in even replying to any post of yours, I am breakiing a cardinal rule: How to debate with people like Totally Crappy.

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Re: It's an orb
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2017, 12:54:16 AM »
Could you direct me to what map you accept? Everything I've seen has a thin ice ring surrounding all the continents with no mass to allow for the South pole or anything remotely near it.

Antarctica is a continent covered in ice.  What you and I will likely disagree about is the shape of said continent. 

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Re: It's an orb
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2017, 01:22:33 AM »
The fact that any flights in and of themselves are restricted to the stated purpose of the flight.
Citation needed.

Where did you come across this information?

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« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2017, 06:24:54 AM »
Totallackey you may have missed my post.
I was saying how cool it was that you visited Antarctica.
Which base, or bases, did you go to?  What were you doing there?