The New Star Trek

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Re: The New Star Trek
« Reply #60 on: July 17, 2019, 02:19:01 PM »
Oh, those people also especially hate DS9 which as much as I love TNG, I think DS9 is the best.

Especially in the pale moonlight.... Damn that was an amazing episode for so many different reasons. If y'all haven't watched much DS9, I recommend that. Season 6 I believe, but it can be found by name.

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« Reply #61 on: July 17, 2019, 02:31:06 PM »
It's kinda interesting to look at the reaction because Star Trek has a pretty tightly moderated continuity compared to most things. Several series all in the same universe, references back, a whole EU devoted to continuity... so for the fans who're into that, something that is potentially at odds with that continuity probably would bug them.
It's just weird to me because, well, Doctor Who nerd, and the DW EU is utterly bonkers and leaves the Doctor with three possible parents over the course of one book and people forget alien invasions happen every other week. You get fandoms like that were continuity might be a fun puzzle for uber-fans, but beyond that it's just common elements and references and familiarity telling a whole variety of stories, which I think's how most people engage with media. Then there are people who enjoy the sense of one continuous narrative and don't like losing that sense of immersion when, to use one complaint I saw, drones pop up in a two-second snippet of the finale when there was a whole TNG episode about how remote repair drones don't exist. Which, eh, I'm not going to tell people how they can and can't enjoy things, it's a valid reason to like something, easy to see the appeal of a centuries-spanning story. There are just people that can't tell the difference of 'not to their taste' and 'objectively terrible.'

Discovery's not perfect, but after the uneven S1, S2 was so good.
Also the shorts.

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Re: The New Star Trek
« Reply #62 on: July 17, 2019, 03:38:05 PM »


I am surprised no one has mentioned Picard, I might actually have to get on demand for that.

There is a Picard thread. https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=77224.0

Most of the new Trek haters love DS9. They don't much care for Voyager or Enterprise.
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« Reply #63 on: August 08, 2019, 04:25:40 PM »
Enterprise Season 3 with the Xindi was cool I thought, but the series ended way too soon. They clearly had more stories they wanted to tell so the finale felt super rushed and TRIP!!!!!  :'( :'( :'( The only thing I thought was odd was one time this weird alien ship approached The Enterprise, not talking so what does Captain Archer say?? 'Hi! We are humans from a planet called Earth. We are sending you its co-ordinates now!' I mean who the F would tell a stranger with unknown intentions that? lol

DS9 was totally awesome. On par with TNG. It had great chemistry with the characters such as Quark/Odo, Miles/Bashir etc.

Voyager had great potential. But the series literally went down as soon as Captain Janeway let her hair down. It's ending was also rushed and the whole time travel crap has been done to death (also wouldn't the people from the 29th century go back and prevent it due to their upholding of the 'temporal prime directive')?

The only Trek I don't like is the new movie ones. It's not Canon, not in the same universe so what am I supposed to care about what happens with the characters?

I saw the fan made movie Star Trek Renegades. I thought it had a pretty good story
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« Reply #64 on: October 15, 2019, 01:57:31 AM »
I agree. It should have died. Star wars as well. I think SJW and woke material is a symptom of an already dying franchise or business similar to if you see tumors then the patient is already dead. STD is dying. Star Trek will not allow the Axanar timeline. Besides not really sure what they would do for a story. The tech is too advanced for post STNG and the past story lines never follow the history anyway. It needs to die for something new to be born.

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« Reply #65 on: October 15, 2019, 02:14:12 AM »
I agree. It should have died. Star wars as well. I think SJW and woke material is a symptom of an already dying franchise or business similar to if you see tumors then the patient is already dead. STD is dying. Star Trek will not allow the Axanar timeline. Besides not really sure what they would do for a story. The tech is too advanced for post STNG and the past story lines never follow the history anyway. It needs to die for something new to be born.

Watch to the end of the second season. They tied up all the loose ends, made it canon and for its third season can truly do what it wants to do without messing up the time line. The SJW crap has also taken quite a step back and is not so in your face

Technology has to be somewhat 'better' looking than TOS in the past because well do you really expect every Star Trek set in that time line to use analogue clocks? lol

Remember in the Original Series in the 60s, having Uhura on the cast was 'progressive'. Having her kiss on screen, damn that must have made a few people uncomfortable!

Star Trek Discovery is actually awesome now. Thank God we have streaming services because most of these shows could not exist without them. The age of TV and time slot viewing is dead. Either no one can organise to watch it when its on or they 'pirate' it to watch when it's convenient
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Re: The New Star Trek
« Reply #66 on: October 15, 2019, 07:30:21 AM »
It's ridiculous to complain about SJW stuff in Star Trek. Star Trek has always been about the best future.
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« Reply #67 on: September 03, 2020, 12:53:58 AM »
It's ridiculous to complain about SJW stuff in Star Trek. Star Trek has always been about the best future.


I don't mind it. It's when they pretend they are being the 'first' trying to rewrite history and show off how 'woke' they are

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-03/star-trek-introduces-transgender-nonbinary-characters/12626094

We get a non binary character in Trek. Old news. Next Gen has done it. Next gen addressed a lot of societal issues without any garbage writing.

That article also brags about the lead character being the first black woman to lead a series...

Sisko was black, and a captain
Jane way was a woman and a captain

Both were highly likeable, competent and well written

'Michael' is not a leader and one with few redeeming qualities. Thoroughly unlikeable too

Star Trek has always been progressive. The difference I guess is these were written so well they were seen as 'normal'. Too subtle for CBS to notice I guess so they write this 'in your face' trash to make sure people see the wokeness


I thought the 2nd season and its finale helped get this to 'appear' more canon but what they did with the Klingons is unforgivable lol
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Re: The New Star Trek
« Reply #68 on: September 03, 2020, 06:59:14 AM »
They took all the fun out of the Klingons.
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Re: The New Star Trek
« Reply #69 on: October 16, 2020, 06:44:06 PM »
Just watched the 1st ep of season 3. I liked it! Lots of fun fight scenes, and ANDORIANS.
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Re: The New Star Trek
« Reply #70 on: October 21, 2020, 05:00:01 PM »
Are none of you watching Discovery this time? grrr
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« Reply #71 on: October 21, 2020, 06:37:12 PM »
Are none of you watching Discovery this time? grrr

I will be. But as Netflix us jacking up their prices I quit with them. Instead of paying every single month I'll pay for a few odd months a year when something good comes on and binge what's on then.

Im waiting for a few more episodes to drop

I know it's not much that they jacked It up but still... The service is not worth $200 a year.

My YouTube suggestions is full of videos making fun of Discovery.... But I can't watch them yet either! Grrr
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Re: The New Star Trek
« Reply #72 on: October 21, 2020, 06:41:16 PM »
I watch everything on fmovies. lol
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Re: The New Star Trek
« Reply #73 on: October 21, 2020, 07:01:42 PM »
I'm going to wait til they're all out and then binge watch them like Jesus intended.

How is this season?  Better or worse than the last?
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Re: The New Star Trek
« Reply #74 on: October 22, 2020, 07:13:37 AM »
Only one episode out so far, but I liked it. Lots of exciting crashing and fighting, plus they've brought back Andorians. Andorians are always fun!
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« Reply #75 on: October 23, 2020, 06:55:27 AM »
Only one episode out so far, but I liked it. Lots of exciting crashing and fighting, plus they've brought back Andorians. Andorians are always fun!

I'm halfway through the first episode and like some of it but am annoyed that so far she hasn't just said "I'm from the past!" and cleared up all the misunderstandings and nonsense all at once.  I mean... in the Trek universe that's like saying you came from the next town over.

Maybe she will say it when I start watching it again but I got annoyed at how she seems to think this is some kind of unbelievable secret or something just to ratchet up the tension.

His ship is cool though.

Cautiously optimistic. :)