Another mass shooting...

I have a friend that's very big into guns.  We had a conversation about gun control after the Uvalde massacre.  I said I'm worried about the safety of my children when they're going to school.  His suggestion was teaching them how to gunfight.

Do the gun nuts think that they can shoot incoming bullets out of the air?

Did he tell you to teach 'em to shoot and actually to carry a gun with them into the school or what? It makes sense to teach kids how to behave and what to do if, god forbid, something like that happens but for a kid to actually stop the attacker? That's some wild advice if you ask me

Quote from: Crouton on May 07, 2023, 08:31:20 AM

I have a friend that's very big into guns.  We had a conversation about gun control after the Uvalde massacre.  I said I'm worried about the safety of my children when they're going to school.  His suggestion was teaching them how to gunfight.

Do the gun nuts think that they can shoot incoming bullets out of the air?

Did he tell you to teach 'em to shoot and actually to carry a gun with them into the school or what? It makes sense to teach kids how to behave and what to do if, god forbid, something like that happens but for a kid to actually stop the attacker? That's some wild advice if you ask me

I didn't discuss the details too much with him.  This was a few weeks after Uvalde and my resting level of rage was still pretty high.  He was sincerely offering a suggestion that he thought would help.  2A propaganda has really scrambled a lot of people's brains.

I tried to walk a few people through it.
Like step by step scenario.
I ask about vests.
Do you just shoot people you think are bad?
What happens of theres two 'good guys'?   - and when i bring up rittenhouse they loose their minds.



And as always they defeat me, with nothing but their witts and their series 7 de atomizers.

I've thought about that too.  I don't know if there's any training that eliminates the possibility of a good guy with a gun shooting another good guy with a gun.  I get the feeling that it's nearly impossible to avoid

i had it out wiht one guy
his brain short circuit really bad

he said Grosskreutz was illegally carrying.

i said that doesn't matter what was his intention - to stop a percieved bad guy.

but the other guy was so thickskulled
he either knew the answer would trap him or he just couldn't comprehend from the POV at the time Grosskreutz thoguht he was doing the right thing and stopping a shooter.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/08/us/allen-texas-mall-shooting-gunman-monday/index.html

The gunman behind the second-deadliest US mass shooting of the year was terminated from the Army due to health concerns and may have been driven by right-wing extremism, sources told CNN.

CNN quick to post speculation when it fits the narrative.

(not saying this guy isn't a right wing extremist, more a comment on CNN)

skipto 5:39 and 6:40

NBC
- RWDS
- neonazi and WS rehtoric

It's interesting what he says about mental health in Texas.  I'm having trouble finding exactly what they've done. 

Apparently Texas is ranked last in mental healthcare for children.

I've found a 15 million dollar bill.  https://www.texastribune.org/2023/04/13/texas-senate-mental-health-children/

This is some genius tier solutions.  Just train all students to be combat medics.  Hell why don't they just rotate kids through the front lines in Ukraine?  While they're at it why not require plate carriers in the school dress code?
https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/texas-bill-proposes-bleeding-stations-in-schools-therapist-warns-of-mental-health-impacts

I can't find any source besides the governor which says they've increased mental health funding by 25 billion.  As far as I can tell they're going to need to more than double the amount they spend now to be mediocre in mental health care.  https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/states-who-spend-the-most-on-mental-health-funding.html

“During the attack, the rifle-wielding attacker wore an insignia which has been associated with hate groups, as well as combat tactical gear. He was seen on video with a clothing patch with the letters RWDS, which stands for "Right Wing Death Squad".

This is a phrase popular among right-wing extremists and white supremacy groups.

An account run by the suspect on a Russia-based social network seen by BBC News includes pictures of Nazi swastikas and SS tattoos, other posts glorifying Nazis, and rambling messages about violence.”

From the BBC.

Biden has apparently set the flags at half mast, the way things are shaping up over there they’ll be at half mast permanently. Viva-2A.

It's interesting what he says about mental health in Texas.  I'm having trouble finding exactly what they've done. 

Apparently Texas is ranked last in mental healthcare for children.

I've found a 15 million dollar bill.  https://www.texastribune.org/2023/04/13/texas-senate-mental-health-children/

This is some genius tier solutions.  Just train all students to be combat medics.  Hell why don't they just rotate kids through the front lines in Ukraine?  While they're at it why not require plate carriers in the school dress code?
https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/texas-bill-proposes-bleeding-stations-in-schools-therapist-warns-of-mental-health-impacts

I can't find any source besides the governor which says they've increased mental health funding by 25 billion.  As far as I can tell they're going to need to more than double the amount they spend now to be mediocre in mental health care.  https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/states-who-spend-the-most-on-mental-health-funding.html

As always
Big corp shifts the cost burden of their action onto public.
People really love subsidizing billionaires.

I never knew that Nazism and white supremacy was so popular in central and south american countries. (I'm not being sarcastic, I really didn't know)

I never knew that Nazism and white supremacy was so popular in central and south american countries. (I'm not being sarcastic, I really didn't know)

Didn't quite a few Nazis escape Germany to South America at the end of the war?  I've always heard that to be the case but never actually looked into it to see if it were true.

I think so, I've watched History shows (or something, I dont' remember) about Argentina. The surprising thing to me is not that there were or are enclaves of white Nazis in these countries, but that there are brown people who are white supremacists. 

They exist.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Fuentes.  It doesn't make a whole lot of sense but it is a thing.

It's not quite as nonsensical as Clayton Bigsby. 



Maybe they just think, eh Latino, close enough to white.  And what the hell is a Latino supremacist?  Best to join an existing franchise to avoid the cost of a new startup.

New study on exposure to firearm violence https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2804655

They exist.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Fuentes.  It doesn't make a whole lot of sense but it is a thing.

It's not quite as nonsensical as Clayton Bigsby. 



Maybe they just think, eh Latino, close enough to white.  And what the hell is a Latino supremacist?  Best to join an existing franchise to avoid the cost of a new startup.

hahahaha
i divocred her because seh's a n*a lover



side note
are they self deprecating? - a bid for 'merican acceptance to be part of the club?
is it a catholic thing?

Your speculation is as good as mine.  I don't have much insight into how a non-white white supremacist thinks.

I dont have a subscription.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/05/08/texas-shooting-white-supremacy-non-whites/


https://www.axios.com/2022/03/10/rise-white-nationalist-hispanics-latinos



Also
What a weird thing to google.

School starts in a month and you know what that means.  It's time to shop for bulletproof backpacks.

This is not a joke. 

School starts in a month and you know what that means.  It's time to shop for bulletproof backpacks.

This is not a joke.

Unless you're Republican, then you gotta go back to school gun shopping.  So your kid can defend themselves against any shooter.

I have a friend who seriously suggested that as a strategy. 

Do these people think that they can shoot an incoming bullet or something?

I have a friend who seriously suggested that as a strategy. 

Do these people think that they can shoot an incoming bullet or something?

No, but they think its better to be armed and able than helpless.  Its a culture thing.

I keep asking 'them' who say its for selfdefense if they wear bullet proof vests everywhere they go.
They ask why.
Then i get thhem to walk thorugh an armed encoutner.
Thiier brains short ciruict and thet tell me to move, be a sheep, call the cops-only-minutss-away.

Amazing logic brains.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/lewiston-maine-mass-shootings-10-27-23/index.html

Officials are urging residents to keep sheltering in place Friday as an intensive manhunt continues for a suspect in Wednesday's shooting rampage in Lewiston, Maine, that left at least 18 dead and 13 injured, according to authorities.

Robert Card, 40, is facing an arrest warrant for eight counts of murder and should be considered armed and dangerous, police said. He is a certified firearms instructor and a member of the US Army Reserves, police said – and his background could make the effort to find him both challenging and dangerous, experts told CNN.

https://x.com/davidhogg111/status/1717911122232127716?s=20

We will never end gun violence until white woman in the suburbs stop voting for the republicans who are endangering our schools and communities by flooding them with guns.

Man murders a bunch of people, white women to blame.

I'm more concerned about the job killing, fascist lockdowns that the demoncratic governor of Maine is enforcing on its citizens.

HAVE WE LEARNED NOTHING FROM COVID!!!

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/lewiston-maine-mass-shootings-10-27-23/index.html

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Officials are urging residents to keep sheltering in place Friday as an intensive manhunt continues for a suspect in Wednesday's shooting rampage in Lewiston, Maine, that left at least 18 dead and 13 injured, according to authorities.

Robert Card, 40, is facing an arrest warrant for eight counts of murder and should be considered armed and dangerous, police said. He is a certified firearms instructor and a member of the US Army Reserves, police said – and his background could make the effort to find him both challenging and dangerous, experts told CNN.

https://x.com/davidhogg111/status/1717911122232127716?s=20

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We will never end gun violence until white woman in the suburbs stop voting for the republicans who are endangering our schools and communities by flooding them with guns.

Man murders a bunch of people, white women to blame.

This is why bowling allys NEED MORE GUNS!  If the pin boy or the person behind the counter was armed, none of this would have happened.  But those liberals want to strip us all of our right to defend ourselves in our own bowling allys!


Also, they blame the women because, lets face it: Men are the actual problem and they'll never actually stop themselves.

Only the white women, though. He wouldn't get any likes if he blamed all women.

Ha, I was just reading that the new Speaker, Mike Johnson, blames feminism, no-fault divorce, and the human heart for mass shootings. At least he didn't blame it on the white woman's heart, but it's almost a horseshoe.

Those murderous whites!

This new speaker is seriously a clown.  He doesn't seem like a maniac just looking at him but good god he's a caricature of conservatives.  https://kentuckylantern.com/briefs/mike-johnson-defended-noahs-ark-attraction-in-kentucky-before-becoming-u-s-house-speaker/



It's very important that children are taught that humans in the past could have a dinosaur as a pet.

omg, I remember when internet forums had mega threads devoted to that guy. lol