Th3rms most compelling evidence and why he believes the earth is flat.

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Sunrise, Sunset, equatorial mounts, telescopes and star trails, the southern cross in the southern hemisphere. Trigonometry and a high altitude plane flight to see curvature for 50k.

Enlighten us senpai. You asked for it.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2017, 04:07:52 PM by disputeone »
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2017, 04:29:15 PM »
Sunrise, Sunset, equatorial mounts, telescopes and star trails, the southern cross in the southern hemisphere. Trigonometry and a high altitude plane flight to see curvature for 50k.

Enlighten us senpai. You asked for it.

You didn't even ask any questions.


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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2017, 04:30:10 PM »
I'm also interested in Th3rms's opinion on NASA and the moon landings. Were we all duped? Is it all a hoax? Did Juno never fly to Jupiter to take those pictures? Did New Horizons never fly by Pluto? Are the Rovers on Mars actually trolling a desert around Area 51 or other place? Please tell us Th3rm, what say you on this and so many other conspiracies?

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Re: Th3rms most compelling evidence and why he believes the earth is flat.
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2017, 06:03:31 PM »
Sunrise, Sunset, equatorial mounts, telescopes and star trails, the southern cross in the southern hemisphere. Trigonometry and a high altitude plane flight to see curvature for 50k.

Enlighten us senpai. You asked for it.

You didn't even ask any questions.
OK, am I allowed three? or am I now asking four, ..... ?
  • Why do you believe that the earth is flat?
  • What is the general shape of your flat earth?
  • Where are the North Pole, Equator and South Pole on your flat earth.

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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2017, 06:07:22 PM »
Sunrise, Sunset, equatorial mounts, telescopes and star trails, the southern cross in the southern hemisphere. Trigonometry and a high altitude plane flight to see curvature for 50k.

Enlighten us senpai. You asked for it.

You didn't even ask any questions.
OK, am I allowed three? or am I now asking four, ..... ?
  • Why do you believe that the earth is flat?
  • What is the general shape of your flat earth?
  • Where are the North Pole, Equator and South Pole on your flat earth.

It looks flat.
Not sure, probably a disk.
The north pole is to the north. The south pole is to the south.


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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2017, 06:12:32 PM »
You didn't address my questions.

What of NASA? or the moon landings? etc etc How high up does this round earth hoax go?

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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2017, 06:18:20 PM »
You didn't address my questions.

What of NASA? or the moon landings? etc etc How high up does this round earth hoax go?

What of them? You don't think it'd be much easier to fake the moon landings than actually going?


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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2017, 06:40:51 PM »
So your telling us they never went? We've been duped?

In fact, why are your answers here still being so dismissive and coy? If you believe the Earth is flat, be proud! Show us your SCIENCE! How did you arrive to your conclusions using science. And why do you dismiss anything that relates to the globe at all.

Convince any round earther to 'see the light' as you have

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Re: Th3rms most compelling evidence and why he believes the earth is flat.
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2017, 06:41:43 PM »
You didn't address my questions.

What of NASA? or the moon landings? etc etc How high up does this round earth hoax go?

What of them?

You sound schizophrenic  Th3rm you should get help :(.

A conspiracy of this size is crazy. I think you have a paranoid delusional disorder, you are showing very concerning signs.

*disclaimer* I don't think flat earthers are schizophrenic, this is a public lesson about glass houses.

When you say it looks flat th3rm, would you care to elaborate?

Rab this is a free forum, you are very welcome. I will really enjoy your posts for a change.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2017, 06:43:16 PM by disputeone »
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2017, 06:48:18 PM »
You didn't address my questions.

What of NASA? or the moon landings? etc etc How high up does this round earth hoax go?

What of them?

You sound schizophrenic  Th3rm you should get help :(.

A conspiracy of this size is crazy. I think you have a paranoid delusional disorder, you are showing very concerning signs.

*disclaimer* I don't think flat earthers are schizophrenic, this is a public lesson about glass houses.

When you say it looks flat th3rm, would you care to elaborate?

Rab this is a free forum, you are very welcome. I will really enjoy your posts for a change.

See, the difference here is that I can give reasons why I believe something. You're unable to do so.

Once again, I'll say that ad hominem is not a valid debate tactic. It is a fallacy. This includes attacking someone else's other (unrelated) ideas in an attempt to discredit them and therefore their argument.

Have you ever seen it not look flat?

So your telling us they never went? We've been duped?

In fact, why are your answers here still being so dismissive and coy? If you believe the Earth is flat, be proud! Show us your SCIENCE! How did you arrive to your conclusions using science. And why do you dismiss anything that relates to the globe at all.

Convince any round earther to 'see the light' as you have

Yeah, most likely.

I dismiss the globe lie because it doesn't seem to conform with what I observe on a daily basis.


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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2017, 06:51:18 PM »
This thread is cute. 3 conspiracy nuts pecking at each other.

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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2017, 06:52:41 PM »
Lets just keep a running tally of the evidence therm has presented so far.

>looks flat at ground level.


http://www.mathsisfun.com/geometry/sphere.html

Debunked. Next point.

Remember this is the thread topic.
"Th3rms most compelling evidence and why he believes the earth is flat."
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2017, 06:54:44 PM »
You didn't address my questions.

What of NASA? or the moon landings? etc etc How high up does this round earth hoax go?

What of them?

You sound schizophrenic  Th3rm you should get help :(.

A conspiracy of this size is crazy. I think you have a paranoid delusional disorder, you are showing very concerning signs.

*disclaimer* I don't think flat earthers are schizophrenic, this is a public lesson about glass houses.

When you say it looks flat th3rm, would you care to elaborate?

Rab this is a free forum, you are very welcome. I will really enjoy your posts for a change.

See, the difference here is that I can give reasons why I believe something. You're unable to do so.

Once again, I'll say that ad hominem is not a valid debate tactic. It is a fallacy. This includes attacking someone else's other (unrelated) ideas in an attempt to discredit them and therefore their argument.

Have you ever seen it not look flat?


Doesn't look flat to me here


Or here



Are you saying that the dozens of countries (including North Korea) are all in on the hoax?



I dismiss the globe lie because it doesn't seem to conform with what I observe on a daily basis.

Maybe you should open your eyes then?

Please tell me how the motion of the Sun or stars work on your flat earth?

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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2017, 06:55:42 PM »
Lets just keep a running tally of the evidence therm has presented so far.

>looks flat at ground level.

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http://www.mathsisfun.com/geometry/sphere.html

Debunked. Next point.

Remember this is the thread topic.
"Th3rms most compelling evidence and why he believes the earth is flat."

How does this make the Earth look round and ground level?
Seems to just be math based on the preconceived notion of a ball Earth, proving nothing.


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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2017, 06:55:57 PM »
Because the earth is large therm. You've proven the earth must logically be large. Whatever shape it may be.

I am especially interested in your celestial model also and the maths you obviously have to justify it therm.
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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2017, 06:57:05 PM »
You didn't address my questions.

What of NASA? or the moon landings? etc etc How high up does this round earth hoax go?

What of them?

You sound schizophrenic  Th3rm you should get help :(.

A conspiracy of this size is crazy. I think you have a paranoid delusional disorder, you are showing very concerning signs.

*disclaimer* I don't think flat earthers are schizophrenic, this is a public lesson about glass houses.

When you say it looks flat th3rm, would you care to elaborate?

Rab this is a free forum, you are very welcome. I will really enjoy your posts for a change.

See, the difference here is that I can give reasons why I believe something. You're unable to do so.

Once again, I'll say that ad hominem is not a valid debate tactic. It is a fallacy. This includes attacking someone else's other (unrelated) ideas in an attempt to discredit them and therefore their argument.

Have you ever seen it not look flat?


Doesn't look flat to me here


Or here



Are you saying that the dozens of countries (including North Korea) are all in on the hoax?



I dismiss the globe lie because it doesn't seem to conform with what I observe on a daily basis.

Maybe you should open your eyes then?

Please tell me how the motion of the Sun or stars work on your flat earth?

Obviously mountains exist. Nice counter point.

Ever been to space?  ::)


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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2017, 06:58:25 PM »
Because the earth is large therm. You've proven the earth must logically be large. Whatever shape it may be.

I am especially interested in your celestial model also and the maths you obviously have to justify it therm.

Right. I'm not arguing spherical geometry. I'm really interested in why you think the picture you posted proves some sort of point - and also what the point was. I'd like to do this before moving on.


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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2017, 07:01:00 PM »
Are you claiming every single space flight and high altitude pilot is in on the conspiracy?

I think you need urgent medical help. This might be an ad hominem but you display all the signs of a paranoid schizophrenic. We all think you need help. Maybe we should call your local hospital? We have your photo and could find you. If enough people said you were crazy we could probably have you involuntarily hospitalised for your own good.

You are clearly a threat to yourself and others and we all think you need help before you hurt someone.

(I just got an idea of how sick you shills are inside and it's an abyss.)
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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2017, 07:04:10 PM »
Are you claiming every single space flight and high altitude pilot is in on the conspiracy?

I think you need urgent medical help. This might be an ad hominem but you display all the signs of a paranoid schizophrenic. We all think you need help. Maybe we should call your local hospital? We have your photo and could find you. If enough people said you were crazy we could probably have you involuntarily hospitalised for your own good.

You are clearly a threat to yourself and others and we all think you need help before you hurt someone.

(I just got an idea of how sick you shills are inside and it's an abyss.)

I don't really understand the point you're trying to make about not throwing stones in a glass house, while you're throwing stones in a glass house. It really doesn't make much sense to me. I'm sorry.

How about you give a coherent reply? I promise I'm not the one who looks stupid right now.


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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2017, 07:04:30 PM »
All you have to do is apologise for gaslighting shifter and I'll stop.

So far evidence presented for th3rms flat earth.

Nothing.

Evidence for a globe in OP. You like doing this to newf*gs you are good at it. I am anything but a newf*g.
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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2017, 07:09:42 PM »
Can we add to the overwhelming grand total of absolutely no evidence for th3rms flat earth?

Show us your evidence. You are a smart guy, I bet you have loads of evidence in support of a flat earth.

Please present some so we can see it.
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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2017, 07:10:26 PM »
All you have to do is apologise for gaslighting shifter and I'll stop.

So far evidence presented for th3rms flat earth.

Nothing.

Evidence for a globe in OP. You like doing this to newf*gs you are good at it. I am anything but a newf*g.



That aside,

I've given several reasons and all you've done is make a demonstrably irrelevant point and claim one of my beliefs was "debunked".
Oh, and call me schizophrenic. Nice one, by the way. Really original.


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« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2017, 07:12:43 PM »
Hey Th3rm, when you look at these images, tell me what you think








We haven't been there but we have had tools that have


How about this?



You know its actually cheaper to pull this off then to pull off a conspiracy, hiding the truth from billions of people over many many decades right?


But you are entitled to your belief here. Whatever it is, I support it


Will somebody please answer me the following question? :

Why would NASA or the government, or whatever even try so hard to keep the "truth" from us? What is the advantage of them having us think that the Earth is round? As far as I know... there would be no advantage of them keeping the "truth" from us.

(I put the word TRUTH in quotations because the Earth is round, guys.)


This is telling however

Great question, thanks for bringing this up. You will, more than likely, never get a complete, straight answer from a real Flat Earther, though.  ::)





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Re: Th3rms most compelling evidence and why he believes the earth is flat.
« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2017, 07:17:01 PM »
Your reason was that the earth looks flat at ground level. I showed you with Autocad and basic geometry why this is the case. Did you know the RE side has a working scale RE map, say, do you have a working scale FE map per chance?

I just find it peculiar that you have no evidence.

Unless you just pretend to believe the earth is flat for whatever reason and I am sure a man of your upstanding virtue would do no, such, thing.............










Lol.  You have been exposed foolish not to expect us etc etc etc

Anyway toodle-pip gaslighting shills.

@Th3rm sorry for that. I didn't enjoy it it felt awful. I don't think you're crazy for thinking the earth is flat. I just want to show you why what you did to shifter was hypocritical. I feel pretty bad I'm not quite sure how people can do that for a job and look at themselves.

Id just like you to apologise for calling Shifter schizophrenic. It feels awful doesn't it?

Edit. If you need advice on how to give evidence and argue for a conspiracy logically see the link in my sig.

Then watch this and recognise.

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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2017, 07:20:25 PM »
Hey Th3rm, when you look at these images, tell me what you think








We haven't been there but we have had tools that have


How about this?



You know its actually cheaper to pull this off then to pull off a conspiracy, hiding the truth from billions of people over many many decades right?


But you are entitled to your belief here. Whatever it is, I support it


Will somebody please answer me the following question? :

Why would NASA or the government, or whatever even try so hard to keep the "truth" from us? What is the advantage of them having us think that the Earth is round? As far as I know... there would be no advantage of them keeping the "truth" from us.

(I put the word TRUTH in quotations because the Earth is round, guys.)


This is telling however

Great question, thanks for bringing this up. You will, more than likely, never get a complete, straight answer from a real Flat Earther, though.  ::)





I can post pictures too. NASA has a massive photo-editing/graphic arts department.

It's cheaper to fly people to the moon and back than bust out a camera and do it on set? Right.

Please don't bring up stuff I said in 2009 and try to use it against me. If you have to resort to that, you're probably losing.


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« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2017, 07:23:06 PM »
Are you ashamed of what you wrote in 2009?

You seem a bit paranoid Th3rm. You see mto think every government and millions of people around the world are in on this 'round earth conspriacy' for 'reasons'.

Do you mind articulating what reasons they could potentially be? Why would the government lie to you? I thought they were your friend!

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« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2017, 07:23:50 PM »
Your reason was that the earth looks flat at ground level. I showed you with Autocad and basic geometry why this is the case. Did you know the RE side has a working scale RE map, say, do you have a working scale FE map per chance?

I just find it peculiar that you have no evidence.

Unless you just pretend to believe the earth is flat for whatever reason and I am sure a man of your upstanding virtue would do no, such, thing.............










Lol.  You have been exposed foolish not to expect us etc etc etc

Anyway toodle-pip gaslighting shills.

@Th3rm sorry for that. I didn't enjoy it it felt awful. I don't think you're crazy for thinking the earth is flat. I just want to show you why what you did to shifter was hypocritical. I feel pretty bad I'm not quite sure how people can do that for a job and look at themselves.

Id just like you to apologise for calling Shifter schizophrenic. It feels awful doesn't it?

I'm not a cartographer. Are you? I'm also pretty busy. Making a map would lose me potential money.

It's not hypocritical at all. I have reasons for my beliefs, while he (and you) aren't able to give any. Do you see the difference?

I asked him if he was schizophrenic because he was exhibiting textbook signs of paranoid schizophrenia. I made it pretty clear that I was genuinely curious and not attacking him.


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Re: Th3rms most compelling evidence and why he believes the earth is flat.
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2017, 07:24:49 PM »
Enlighten us senpai.

Enlighten me on how you got the internet Stamina to keep up a thread argument for 193 pages.
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« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2017, 07:25:19 PM »
Are you ashamed of what you wrote in 2009?

You seem a bit paranoid Th3rm. You see mto think every government and millions of people around the world are in on this 'round earth conspriacy' for 'reasons'.

Do you mind articulating what reasons they could potentially be? Why would the government lie to you? I thought they were your friend!

For "reasons"? There is a lot of money that goes into those programs and most people wouldn't have to know. It's relatively feasible. Who's making money from the chemtrails, again?

When did I ever claim governments were benevolent? Remember the holocaust?


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« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2017, 07:25:34 PM »
Your reason was that the earth looks flat at ground level. I showed you with Autocad and basic geometry why this is the case. Did you know the RE side has a working scale RE map, say, do you have a working scale FE map per chance?

I just find it peculiar that you have no evidence.

Unless you just pretend to believe the earth is flat for whatever reason and I am sure a man of your upstanding virtue would do no, such, thing.............










Lol.  You have been exposed foolish not to expect us etc etc etc

Anyway toodle-pip gaslighting shills.

@Th3rm sorry for that. I didn't enjoy it it felt awful. I don't think you're crazy for thinking the earth is flat. I just want to show you why what you did to shifter was hypocritical. I feel pretty bad I'm not quite sure how people can do that for a job and look at themselves.

Id just like you to apologise for calling Shifter schizophrenic. It feels awful doesn't it?

I'm not a cartographer. Are you? I'm also pretty busy. Making a map would lose me potential money.

It's not hypocritical at all. I have reasons for my beliefs, while he (and you) aren't able to give any. Do you see the difference?

I asked him if he was schizophrenic because he was exhibiting textbook signs of paranoid schizophrenia. I made it pretty clear that I was genuinely curious and not attacking him.

You have yet to share one valid reason why you believe the earth is flat. ONE

And I am curious what changed your mind. You used to be a solid round earther. Please tell us how you got enlightened to this truth so that maybe I can be enlightened too

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